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Monday, December 3rd, 2012 at 9:00 am  |  164 responses

Kobe Bryant Says He’ll ‘Kick Everybody’s Ass’ if Lakers Don’t Improve


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

Prior to the start of the season, this is not how anyone pictured things going for the Los Angeles Lakers, after all of the splashy moves they made in the summer.

They weren’t supposed to fire their coach just five games into the season, they weren’t supposed to play without Steve Nash for this long, and they most certainly weren’t supposed to lose to the hapless Orlando Magic at home (giving up 40 fourth-quarter points in the process.)

And yet, here we are.

Naturally, Kobe Bryant is infuriated by his team’s struggles, and says it’s time for everyone — especially Pau Gasol — to toughen up, or else there will be hell to pay.

Per Fox Sports:

“I’ll kick everybody’s ass in this locker room if it doesn’t happen,” Bryant said after a 113-103 loss to the Orlando Magic at Staples Center. Yes, the 6-10 Orlando Magic. “It’s the attitude you have to have. Metta (World Peace) is the same way. Dwight (Howard) has it in him as well. Even though he smiles a lot, he cares a lot about this. Come hell or high water, this has to get done.”

“Pau has to make some adjustments, obviously, to his game. He might not be posting up as much as he likes, but he just has to adjust. The reality is, I’ve adjusted. I’ve never run this many screen-and-rolls in my entire life. But I’ve worked on it. I’ve worked on handling the ball; worked on coming off screens and making plays. I’m used to being in the post much, much more. You have to adjust; you have to master what it is we’re trying to do here. Pau’s talented enough and good enough to be able to do that.” [...] “Put your big-boy pants on,” Kobe said with a trace of disgust in his voice. “C’mon … just adjust. You can’t whine about it or complain about it. Heck, I’m 34 years old, and I’m running screen-and-rolls out there because Steve (Nash) is out, and my ass is running up and down the court more than I ever have in my entire career. But you have to adjust to it. I stay after practice and work on my ball-handling and screen-and-rolls, and when you have the talent to adjust to it, you just … have … to … adjust … to … it. We’re not going to lose (Pau). This is just not going to happen. I’ve been around him long enough to know how to deal with him.”

The last comment from Bryant regarding Gasol sounds like a threat … which probably isn’t too far from reality.

Pau is posting career lows in points (12.6ppg) and field goal accuracy (42%), and generally looks lost in coach Mike D’Antoni’s offense. He was on the bench late in the fourth quarter last night, as the Lakers suffered their latest humiliating loss.

Kobe Bryant’s threats of violence notwithstanding, it promises to be one long, strange season in Los Angeles.

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  • speedy

    As if Laker struggles are simply because of one person. What about defense?

    I would wait a little longer before I throw a teammate under the bus in public.
    Do what you have to do and tell your teammates what they need to be told in practice, but not in the media.

  • nick

    yeah it would also help if the bench could contribute more than one game

    pau, meeks, and jordan hill, for josh smith, lou williams and pachulia

  • http://www.facebook.com/evan.boland Evan Boland

    Meeks and Hill should be playing, don’t know what D’Antoni is doing. Like I said, we lost our chance at a championship caliber team when we passed on Phil.

  • zogs19994

    HAVE FUN KICKING DWIGHT’S ASS LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Kobe does realize Pau is playing through injury right? However, I do think he’s saying this stuff to light a fire under him and not just to complain about a crappy teammate. That last sentence is very telling. I didn’t see the game last night, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Pau played super lethargic.

    Phil did stuff like this in his own ways through the media – Kobe is just very brutally honest with his assessment. Pau usually responds positively to his teammates/coaches questioning him publicly, so we’ll see what becomes of this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/HolyBaller Dillan Leu

    How incredibly stupid would Atlanta be to agree to that deal? Lol. That’s an awful trade for them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    I still don’t know why they hired an up tempo coach for a old a*ss team like this…this is a play in the post, slow it down team.

  • Perry the PlatyPteranodon

    It’s the Lakers, their known to pull stuff like this…all the time…somehow.
    It’s well known that they keep a team of trained hitmen in the negotiation rooms.

  • shockexchange

    (D12 voice) “Hello Brooklyn”

  • CP7

    Or maybe if dwight could just make free throws none of this would be a problem

  • FLIGHT 9

    Look Kobe.. I hate the heat… I like the LAkers BUT everybody knows D’ Antoni is not the coach for you….. By the time your chemistry isn’t an issue your in the 6-8th seed and out in the first round???

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    One name: Chris Childs.

  • pposse

    and kobe’s fg percentage dropped another 3% points this past week…

  • spit hot fiyah

    i am really looking forward to bryant kicking his own ass as he is included in everybody

  • Max

    Their 4th quarter D was the problem.

  • Redd

    Haha of enjoy watching Kobe whining cause he feels under threat of not winning a 6th chip. It’s what you get for throwing guys under for so long.

  • Omar

    Pau needs to put on his big boy pants…and punch Kobe in the mouth.

  • roscoe

    LAC & LAL can’t make free throws and it will cost them throughout the season and playoffs

  • reed o

    If RonRon said this than it would mean a lot more than Chris Childs

  • Caboose

    Don’t let Arron Afflalo outplay you then.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i like this. everyone, even people within an organization, should overreact when they struggle without their starting PG in a PG centric offense. Because THAT makes sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    A sucker-punching incident from 12 years ago when Kobe was 22? How relevant!

  • Drig’r

    It was the hack-a-howard and lack of D which lost us the game aside from squad rotation by Mike D’Antoni. I fail to understand why he refuses to play Hill……….

    Pau was lethargic even by his own standards ( which are much below the L average )…….. He better shape up or it ain’t farfetched to think he’s gonna be shipped out…….

  • RKJ92

    Not even just outplay him, but outplay him EFFICIENTLY Damnn… ahaha

  • RKJ92

    Dooooooo itttttttttttttttt!!!

  • RKJ92

    Shhhh…

  • shockexchange

    His FG percentage will be down to around 45% – 46% (as usual) by the end of the season, which means he will have to hoist up more shots to keep leading the L in scoring.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    A sucker-punch when Kobe was looking right at him? Watch the video. Kobe threw an elbow. Chris caught him twice while dude was well aware of what was going on.

  • Lakerfan

    Where is Phil’s number when you need it the most?

  • Redd

    Idk if Dwight will even stay. I doubt he’d like a team with this kind of atmosphere. The dude is into having a good time.

  • Misso

    I called it. The grass is not greener on the other side. GO MAGIC!!!

  • shockexchange

    Shockism – “Don’t get mixxy if you can’t stand the mix.”

  • Drig’r

    Once Nash comes back, we’ll see……

  • shockexchange

    Another excuse from Laker Nation … “Wait til Nash comes back, “If we had Phil we would have won the chip,” “Maybe if we had Shaq, or Wilt in their prime …”

  • Salty

    Why does Kobe always have to put people on blast to the media? If he said this to Pau behind closed doors, maybe it’d motivate him. Saying it for all the world to hear is just going to make things worse.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Pau is an easy scape goat, but the problem thus far has been defense (even with Mike Brown) and a terrible bench.

  • Caboose

    The argument before D’Antoni came was “Wait till we fire Mike Brown and get an offensive coach like D’Antoni.”

  • Caboose

    The grass is stained brown by the pollution of LA. Enjoy your narcissistic teammates who won’t force feed you the ball and stand up for you in all cases.

  • Drig’r

    Caboose…….seriously?? So, you just forgot about the insanely long debate we had about how Nash would help Kobe play off the ball more and help him utilize his underrated cutting skills???? BTW, honest question : what happened to the Jordan vs Kobe O discussion we had?? I was kinda eagerly anticipating your reply……….

    I never said Nash would be the answer to all our problems. But Kobe ain’t no Nash. He’s holding down the fort like he has over the last decade with his good passing skills but they aren’t in the same stratosphere as Nash’s.

    Another thing stat aficionados should look at before bit*hing about Kobe’s efficiency is the rest of the team’s FG%.

    Kobe could’ve had above 50% FG% easy but he tried to score and get the game back. That is more than I can say about anyone sans probably Dwight. It backfired splendidly but you can’t question the intent behind that.

  • Caboose

    Ok, c’mon, that was a dig at the die-hards, not at you. It’s tongue-in-cheek and you know it. Also, don’t say Kobe could’ve had above 50% FG. He didn’t.

  • Chukaz

    Nobody wanted to hire D’Antoni. No laker fan ever said anything about D’Antoni. Laker nation wept when we hired D’Antoni over Phil. D’Antoni’s one of the worst coaches ever. There were people in NY without electricity for days that were happier than the laker fans were when we hired D’Antoni. Its like Jerry got old and everybody forgot how to think.

  • Junior Taylor

    How about kicking your own a** first for needing 27 shots to get 34pts and allowing Arron Freaking Affalo to drop 30pts on 60% shooting on your a**? How about looking in the mirror and placing the blame on yourself for once?

  • K_HOLIDAY

    The Lake Show (the team not the slam member lol) has officially turned into a disaster thanks to the media and expectations. Not to make excuses for them, but I’ll wait for Nash to get back before I pass judgment on this team. Nash knows the system and is still a top tier point guard in the league. He’s made Phoenix respectable the last few years with way less talent, so if anyone can stabilize this situation, its him.

  • Chukaz

    That’s exactly right. Hill’s probably out 4th, maybe 3rd best player right now with nash out and pau struggling and D’Antoni’s hitting him with DNPs. I get he didn’t like Hill in NY but for the love of god, Mike Brown was able to make good use of Hill and Pau. How bad of a coach do you have to be to let Mike Brown make better use of his players?

  • Chukaz

    Pau is an easy scape goat because he’s been sucking.

  • Chukaz

    tendonitis is not a serious injury. When i was in HS i played and practiced thru tendonitis for 3 straight years. And Kobe’s been playing with torn tendons in his hand for like 4 years.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Mike Brown made better use of Antawn Jamison, Chris Duhon, and Jodie Meeks? No? Not even close? K.

  • Drig’r

    My bad then lol. I’ve been given a rough day here after LAL bombed in Q4 and I’m a bit edgy lol……….

    Kobe could’ve had 50% FG easy. It’s just that he doesn’t give a damn about his FG% in games he’s losing heavily. Iso-ball resulted in him going 2/5 or 1/5 in the dying moments of the game when everyone else all but gave up on the game. He could’ve just as easily gone through teh motions and preserved his stats. But he tried to start a run. It backfired.

    No offence to you man but LAL lost the game rather than ORL winning it because they played in such a lackadasical manner that they deserved an ass whopping IMO. Nobody was running, no marking, no help, no crisp rotations…………nothing…….They looked dead on their feet and this was supposed to be an effing home game with a day of rest in between :X

    The team’s so far looking so bi-polar under Mike D’Antoni. Well, except Pau. He’s just grimacing on the bench………

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    THIS. All of this.

  • Drig’r

    I wasn’t grimacing or weeping. I was actually looking forward to us having the best O in the L. Then Nash went out.

  • shockexchange

    The Shock Exchange thinks it’s “trial-and-error.” Horry Jr said something to Chris Childs’ face and look what happened.

  • Caboose

    Cosign, save the Kobe FG%, I agree he tried to start a run, which was a good thing, but it didn’t work. He wasn’t at 50% when he started chucking, and he sure wasn’t after.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    Lol probably will

  • keyon dooling

    this MF is NEVER accountable. take some responsibility and try to shoot 47% for a whole season you clown

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    This fool acts like Pau is the one blowing games when it’s the whole squad messing up huge. Things are only gonna get harder when nash gets back

  • Caboose

    Nobody? You’re telling me that if I looked through the archive here at SLAM I wouldn’t find a single Laker fan who was happy that D’Antoni was hired?

  • Max

    Have you seen the games? Dwight is having a ton of fun even when they’re sucking lol.

  • Caboose

    C’mon, when has Kobe ever done anything wrong, EVER?

  • Chris

    Exactly.

  • Mike Mihalow

    Spurs rest their players: $250,000 fine.
    Kobe threatens violence towards teammates: $0 fine.

  • Chris

    look, Antoni’s system is flawed to begin with. He philosophy is to outscore teams to win, yet this Laker team are not athletic enought to run & gun and put that kind of points on the board every night. When they then have absolutely no defensive ability whatsoever, they’re screwed. It doesn’t help that they’re all gassed from running up and down either. The core players are well into their 30s and and have more mileage than most. Antoni is just a bad, bad fit for this team. Nash alone won’t change that, unless they somehow magically become better at the defensive end with him in the lineup. Which they won’t of course.

  • shutup

    lmao @suckerpunch.

  • Chris

    I certainly don’t mind Kobe ripping Pau a new one, cause he really deserves it. That being said, Kobe would be wise to stop roaming and trying to play some decent D for once.

  • Caboose

    While I’m sure your medical knowledge and training is extensive, I feel compelled to tell you that not all forms of tendinitis are the same. But I’m sure you knew that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jay.brodes Jay Brodes

    kobe is ticked and i do not blame him. they look like ish. i would not be doing this publicly but yeah things have to change and fast. i hate the excuse wait til nash gets back. this only makes the defense worse. only thing with nash coming back it takes wear and tear off of kb! period..not looking good. kb..drop your inline cw!

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

    .
    .”He philosophy is to outscore teams to win” – well no f*cking sh*t? that’s stupid as all hell. he should be trying to score less than other teams, definitely.

    D’Antoni’s system isn’t run and gun. First of all. It’s fast paced. But there is structure, it’s not just get out there and shoot a bunch. The team has been running the offense for what, 9 games? you expect it to work well that fast, without a training camp, and without their starting PG? Are you at all, looking at the situation with any sense of reason?

    .
    What happened to Phoenix when Mike D’Antoni traded Shawn Marion for Shaq? Did the offense die because they traded one of the fastest forwards in the league for it’s slowest Center? I bet, you being as ignorant about this situation as you obviously are, wouldn’t respond, “well, they still had the best offense in the league” —- when that would be the correct response.
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    Having a fast team, and D’Antoni being successful is not related. It would probably help, assuming you have players that can shoot and guard multiple positions, but it isn’t the key aspect of a successful offense.
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    The key to D’Antoni’s offense is spacing and efficiency. Neither of which have emerged 12 games in for a few VERY VERY simple reasons.
    .
    .First – They are all new to the system except the one guy who is injured. With no time to practice, it’s EXPECTED that they struggle to get into a rhythm.
    .Second – As of right now, Kobe Bryant is their lead playmaker, which, given his career, is not the position to expect him to play in and flourish right away. Especially without giving him the opportunity to learn the small things that make it work, that he will inevitably learn from Steve Nash. Assuming we realize how smart Bryant is, and how badly he wants to tie Jordan in rings.
    .Third – The guys are not in shape to play this offense. That is the most fixable, but biggest issue right now. They went through training camp preparing to play a grind it out, defense oriented game that was more about physical braun then physical stamina. Now they are in the complete opposite situation and have to adjust……which will take TIME.
    .
    No reason to come to any conclusions about the Lakers yet. To do so, is stupid.

  • Redd

    He still has the tendinitis issue.

  • Redd

    Never ever, he’s the Basketball Messiah.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Pretty sure he said he messed up to the media when he had 10 turnovers just last week. Its rare, but Kobe does call himself out once in a while. But not as often as he calls out Pau.

  • R32

    Lezbehonest, hes not fighting anyone esp. MWP.

  • robb

    C’mon Lakers dammit!!

  • LakeShow

    Atta boy Kobe, let them know what’s up.
    Time to get serious.

  • Junior Taylor

    Come on now, LakeShow… even a die-hard Kobe fan like yourself can’t back him up when it comes to this constant habit of him calling out teammates and never taking blame for the team’s struggles.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Great breakdown. That actually helped me feel better about the Lakers situation.

  • LakeShow

    Why would Kobe take blame for the teams struggles? I mean that’s always cute and stuff when players like Nash or LeBron take the blame, but we all know it’s not their fault. They may have made bad choices or not executed well 100% of the time, but that doesn’t make it their fault, to me anyway. Where would the Lakers be without Kobe or the Suns all those years without Nash? You shouldn’t blame your MVP’s for the teams struggles when they are playing above the rest of the team.

    I would call Pau out if I were him too.

    12ppg on 42% shooting out of the most skilled post player in the L 20 games into the season……..

    It’s the teams struggles.

    Himself and his team mates are included in that.

    I’m not going to go in on Kobe when he’s playing good ball. He’s made mistakes, but still not as many as Pau, the PG’s, and others have made.

    It’s not Dwight’s FT’s, it’s not the defense, it’s not the offensive execution solely. There is allot of things going wrong with the team right now and if Kobe Bryant wants to call them out…. I’m all for that. If they want to call Kobe out…. I’m all for that.

  • Chukaz

    How cares if Mike Brown didn’t use Jamison, Duhon, and Meeks as well as D’Antoni. He made better use of his 2 all-star bigs. So D’Antoni makes better use of his 8th, 9th, and 10th men. Mike Brown’s issue wasn’t with the starting lineup. The starting lineup was playing really well. Now that d’antoni’s in charge, the starting lineup suffered and i’d argue the the bench is worse. So he’s making good use of Jamison, so what? He’s wasting away Pau and Hill.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i appreciate it. i’m telling you, if there will be a time to worry, it’s if the Lakers haven’t put together a good string of games by February. Sounds really late, but given Nash will take another 2 weeks to get back (mid december is the target), Dwight is still rounding into shape (he has a good dominant game, then 3 games where he just looks tired, so probably January at the earliest before he’s back to being daily dwight), and then the 3 or so weeks (approximately 13 games) to get everyone meshing together. February would be the key time for them to come together. If they aren’t showing signs by then, then by all means, start to worry.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    WHAT IN THE ENTIRE F*CK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

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    .First of all, under Mike Brown the Lakers were 28th in Defense, and their record was 1-4. Defending him, is immediately stupid – like unbelievably stupid. (For Comparisons Sake the Lakers are 7-5 with D’Antoni at the helm, and have JUMPED 18 SPOTS to 10th in Defense – without a f*cking training camp)

    .Here is Pau’s stats with Mike Brown – http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gasolpa01/gamelog/2013/#797-801-sum:pgl_basic

    .Here is Pau’s stats with Mike D’Antoni – http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gasolpa01/gamelog/2013/#802-813-sum:pgl_basic

    .

    Well yes, Pau is less productive, but he’s also playing 4 less minutes…..so actually, he’s just as productive. Nothing has changed. -

    ,
    And Antawn Jamison is the 6th man, not the 8th, 9th or 10th. — And Jordan Hill doesn’t play because he can’t shoot. So, in essence, he’s Dwight’s backup. You want him playing over Dwight?
    .
    Bye.

  • speedy

    Cosign NBK.
    It will be hard to adjust to this system without training camp during an 82 game season.
    I still think hiring Phil would have been the better decision to win this year also I love ’7 seconds or less’, because if played right it’s a system that can win it all.

  • J25

    Pau is playing as bad as I’ve ever seen him. No fire, no passion, no power, no motivation. Punch Kobe in the mouth? I don’t think so…. Trade his ass now!!!!!!!!

  • Junior Taylor

    I guess that’s just one of the few qualities a great leader possess and Kobe isn’t one of the them. It may be harsh but it’s 100% true. All-Time great player but all-time bad teammate.

  • RondU33

    @disqus_rOeXXBD2qs:disqus While most of what you posted is 100% true, there’s a point that is pretty easy to conclude, right now. Mike D’Antoni’s “style” on the defensive end is a lax and disinterested affair. There is absolutely no emphasis on defense (other than typical lip service). He’s horrible out of time outs, and routinely gets out coached. He alienates players & will not/can not meld his system to maximize his team’s talent. He’s a gimmick. The “7 secs or Less system” has never been proven to beat an NBA team who’s roster wasn’t a huge underdog. As a head coach, he’s as fraudulent as a $3 bill. By reading your post, it’s obvious you understand the game. Wait until you get to see “DamnPhoney” night in, night out. There’s really no way to prepare you. Oh, his postgame after a tough regular season or playoff loss is a thing of beauty! “The (insert other team)’s are pretty good” was his go to line in NY. I’m not a LAL or Kobe fan, by any stretch, but you guys deserve better than an “offensive coordinator” masquerading as a head coach.

  • J25

    At first I thought is might be okay. After seeing the past few games, Nuggets excluded, I have to agree. I’ll be surprised if D’Antoni’s system works with this team.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Don’t forget Doug Christie

  • J25

    This MF is the only player on the team throwing his ass on the line every night. Pau sucks!!!, period.

  • LakeShow

    12ppg on 42%FG’s.
    I mean it’ isn’t Pau’s “fault”, per se, but he isn’t making it easy not to scapegoat on him.

  • LakeShow

    Shut up! NEVER!

  • Fact

    Pau won’t last with the Lakers through January. Hid gradual decline in play is not a result of the current system, as I’ve watched every game over the past few years. His weakness, is he’s weak & inconsistent. Guys just run through him. He doesn’t bring it every night. Gets discouraged easily, can’t get up and down the court, he can no longer hit the outside shot consistently, has trouble holding on to the ball, gets outworked for position in the paint, and can’t seem to make fast moves in the post anymore. He is still a good passer, but this is not enough to offset his deficiencies – ie., for someone making $19M and playing 38 minutes per game. As much as I’ve enjoyed watching him over the years, including his time in Memphis, it’s probably time for a parting of the ways.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I live in Phoenix dude. I am the furthest thing there is from a Lakers fan on this website. And I have lived through D’Antoni. I know what his system is, i know what it focuses on, it know how it works.
    .
    And the whole myth that he is a bad defensive coach is purely a myth. He focuses more on offense, because his “theory” is, if you have a better offensive team (like the Lakers do, and the Suns did) then your opponent, it will serve you better to have more attempts. Law of averages if you understand what that is. So, faster paced + better offense = more attempts & more makes (more points). His teams are ridiculously successful. And his defenses in Phoenix, were consistently middle of the pack. Despite not having a single defensive anchor.

    .
    Now that he’s taken over for Mike Brown, the Lakers have jumped from 28th in defensive rating to 10th. To put things into perspective.
    .
    “has never been proven to beat an NBA team who’s roster wasn’t a huge underdog.” – FALSE
    .
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2005_WCS.html

    .
    See, you don’t really know what you are talking about, but you obviously do watch ESPN and believe what you are told by Magic Johnson and other hired “analysts” who don’t actually pay attention to the things they are saying and whether or not they are accurate.

  • J25

    Agree with Chukaz. Pau has been simply – below average.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    your boy Kobe was half the defensive problem last night. — (the other half was Antawn Jamison).

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    @disqus_oxoGJMLagc:disqus @disqus_j65FuvcSML:disqus – i gotta show this to you guys. Afflalo really bothers Kobe. http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=afflaar01&p2=bryanko01

    .
    Check the efficiency.

  • LakeShow

    Means more to me that the opponents always felt the need to get physical with Kobe than anything else.(Childs, Christie, Artest, Bell, Barnes, list goes on) Can’t stop him on the court better try to stop him some other way…

    If you hate Kobe, you see it as a cool thing for a guy to punch him, but if you respect and understand his skills it makes guys like Christie and Childs look like well child’s. OK, fine children.

    Nothing special about punching a dude in the face, ask me I’ve been on both sides.

    How’s Christie’s career ‘stack up’? He ain’t even Stackhouse.

    How bout Childs? You google his name and the 1st thing that pops up is him punching Kobe…

    You google Kobe and the first thing that shows up is “stats.” Followed by “Networth.”

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    Yeah…

  • LakeShow

    Pretty well? Right? 5 chips, Over a dozen first teams made, both offensive and defensive.

    I mean he’s no Chris Childs…. Childs was the ’94 MVP!!!

    Sure it was of a different League all together, but the dudes one of the greats!!……..

    NBA Averages of 6.9 PPG on a career 40% FG’s…. Pheewwwwie!

    Baller!

  • LakeShow

    Yeah it is an absurd thought to think that the best PG in the world at running this offense might help the team….
    We’re all a bunch of dreamers I know…

  • LakeShow

    career 6.9 ppg on 40%Fg’s….

    Shhhhhhhhhh….ut your Got Damn pie eating hole.

  • LakeShow

    Always a good read.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    This would be funny if anyone was comparing Chris Childs to Kobe as a player. But no one was. At all.

  • shockexchange

    The Shock Exchange sees some “revisionist history” in your comment … The fact pattern is that (i) Horry Jr stepped to Childs, (ii) Childs cleared Horry Jr out of his personal space, (iii) Horry Jr threw a short left and (iv) Childs introduced Horry Jr to his two best friends – “Pete” (right fist) and “RePete” (left fist)

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    No one is comparing Kobe and Chris Childs or Doug Christie as players. Of course it means more to you to talk about the kind of players they were because it makes you feel good to know that Kobe was better than they were. But that means nothing here. Kobe doesn’t exactly have a reputation for being a fighter. Growing up in Italy and the suburbs of Philly and then spending the rest of your life living in Newport Beach and taking helicopters to practices and games doesn’t really make you hardcore. Which is why him even joking about doing anything violent to anyone is laughable. It’s pretty pointless to bring up the stats of these guys as if anyone here is unaware of the fact that they weren’t exactly Hall of Fame caliber players.

  • Redd

    Idiot.

  • Caboose

    Lakers get: Josh Smith, Zaza Pachulia, Raja Bell
    Jazz get: Pau Gasol, Metta World Peace, Jeff Teague, Lakers 2014 1st Round Pick
    Hawks get: Al Jefferson, Mo Williams, Earl Clark, Lakers 2014 2nd Round Pick, Jazz 2015 2nd Round Pick
    —-
    Lakers starting 5: Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Josh Smith, Antawn Jamison, Dwight Howard
    Jazz starting 5: Jeff Teague, Gordon Hayward, Metta World Peace, Paul Millsap, Pau Gasol
    Hawks starting 5: Devin Harris, Mo Williams, Kyle Korver, Al Horford, Al Jefferson

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    appreciate it

  • LakeShow

    Vice versa for yourself sir.
    Just as I “make myself feel better” by acknowledging that their careers are jokes compared to KB’s, you do the same, but opposite. You try to lower Kobe’s appearance by pointing out that people punched him…

    You find it impressive to have a reputation for being a fighter…
    Cool bro..
    This is the NBA, where you make your name by grabbing boards, dishing dimes or making buckets.
    Kobe did all those better than the schmucks that tried to harm him so I think it’s pretty obvious to anyone who isn’t a dodo that Kobe is laughing last.

  • LakeShow

    Agreed…
    Doesn’t mean he isn’t the vocal leader, and needs to give a couple shouts here and there to keep everyone on their toes.

  • LakeShow

    I’d have ZERO issue with Dwight saying Kobe needs to pick it up on defense.

  • LakeShow

    Nice proposal.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i agree, but threatening to kick asses when his is probably the first or second one that deserves to be kicked is pretty ridiculous.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    its just sad to see the city of LA write him off like a scrub.

  • http://twitter.com/DPisWill DePaul Williams

    This is Kobe’s attempt to speed up the struggle process, rather than have the media and us continually bash Gasol for his poor play, you noticed a lot of us have bashed Kobe for his comments, him saying that really does not anything for me…nbk broke down the situation pretty well

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Troy-Tommyjames/100002645042509 Troy Tommyjames

    Notice how Kobe gave exceptions to the players that could kick his azz?

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    How can something be the same but opposite at the same time? When did I say that I find it impressive to have a reputation for being a fighter? It’s flat out sad for a man to have this much sensitivity over a player or a team. I said that this discussion isn’t about the kind of players Chris and Doug were. You made it about the kind of players they were because that way, your guy can sound great compared to them. This is about Kobe saying what he said and how funny it is because he’s not going to do anything to anyone except yell and curse. I didn’t try to “lower his appearance”. I simply stated that he’s not the kind of dude to do anything violent to anyone evidenced by how he fared in his confrontations with Chris Childs and Doug Christie. If anyone’s laughing, it’s us who know that dude won’t be doing anything to anyone. That’s why these comments are funny. Contrary to what you think, this isn’t about Kobe’s championships or his points. I know you want to make it about those two things which you are known to do. But that’s irrelevant here.

  • LakeShow

    Has his defense really been that bad? I mean can you actually give me some of those nifty advance defensive stats?
    He has made some stupid mistakes on defense but so has everyone including the 2 time DPOY..
    Given my eye test he hasn’t been bad on the defensive end, save a night here and there.

  • LakeShow

    12ppg on 42% is quite scrubby is the problem….
    He can change our POV.
    I love Pau, and hope he stays in LA if he can still flourish here.

  • LakeShow

    Yeah that’s why I still to this day think of him as a very good defender lol…
    He is as good as anyone else at guarding KB that I have seen.

  • LakeShow

    What else would we compare?
    Dick size?
    We’re talking about basketball players aren’t we?

    Personally I don’t get into all that TMZ/Chris Childs stuff.
    I just like ball.

  • deman qw

    Lakers suck

  • deman qw

    Yeah i agree Lakers suck.

  • Flash

    You know what’s the real reason they lost to orlando and why they’re struggling right now??? Its bcause they were heavily favored by the odds makers! who in the right mind would bet against a strong team like that huh? I’m telling you the NBA is rigged just like most of the sports on this planet. Its all about gambling man.. so don’t get too carried away by the drama cos it’s fake, they are all actors, only puppets! The “people” behind it all don’t care jacks**t as long as they are making money off it. Just ask lebron in the 2011 finals, that ref who got busted for gamefixing, or did you guys forget what happened to MJ’s dad back then when he refused to go along? Corruption is very much alive open your damned eyes everybody!

  • asdas

    I dont get Pau. In the Olympics, just two months ago- he DOMINATED- If you d never seen any ball before in your life, you d say he was the best player in those games. He was mad passionate , vocal, a leader. I dont know why but when he s with Kobe on the same team- something switches off. I know people like that, that on their own are dominant personalities, but with certain others, seem to shrink and revert to something else. I think with Pau, he s always been too cerebral for his own good. And with this many other stars on the team- he s not sure of his place in the totem pole. I think thats affecting him as much as anything.

  • LakeShow

    So you took Kobe seriously, and actually thought he has plans to literally kick some ones ass if he needs to?

    That’s a fundamental reader error my friend.

    It’s satirical.

    Kobe has ZERO plans to kick anyone’s ass.

    Reader error.

    You laugh at Kobe “not doing anything to anyone”(physically speaking I assume).

    That’s funny because I actually never have heard Kobe speak of his kick boxing or any MMA skills in any way.

    It’s also evident that you think that someone SHOULD fight someone, in game, if they physically assault them on the court…

    Once again, that’s on you man. Personally, I always have respect for the person that stays true to his contract and his profession and does not try to fight someone in a basketball game, there by, being held out of future games by suspension.

  • RED

    Go ahead and trade Paul we need somebody going be hungary and bust there ass to win.

  • LakeShow

    THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!!

  • Caboose

    Hungarians are the key to victory? GET KORNEL DAVID IN HERE!

  • KC

    Kobe….. Just shut your mouth please, please, please. His attempts at being a leader are laughable. If you want to send a message to Pau go talk to him privately. Stop Calling people out in the media like a little girl. So glad this mess is LA is failing miserable thus far.

  • Caboose

    He’s got the same amount of Defensive Win Shares as Pau, if that counts…

  • LakeShow

    Question: If he is such a bad teammate, why don’t more former teammates say so? They can’t be fearful of him beating them up right? Cause we all know Childs and Christie showed us Kobe’s a huge p*ssy, so why wouldn’t they come out against him?

  • The Seed

    We needed Phil, plain and simple.

  • Chukaz

    I’m not talking about Brown’s 5 games, i’m taking about his time as the lakers coach. He made better use of the gasol-bynum, gasol-dwight combos than D’Antoni. He made a productive player of Hill. D’Antoni benched him cuz he’s got beef with him since their time in NY. Jamison’s the 6th man now that Blake and Hill aren’t playing. He was the 8th man before D’Antoni and injuries. Also, i wasn’t defending brown. I hated the dude with all my heart. I wanted Adelman when brown got hired. I wanted Jackson when brown got fired. D’Antoni’s a terrible coach. Running for layups and 3s is not a system, its pickup basketball. How can u call ur offense a system, a good system, when u can’t accommodate one of he most skilled bigs to ever play the game? You should adjust ur offense to ur personnel. If he wanted his system to be the most important aspect of his program he shoulda gone to college. In the nba you adjust to ur players strengths. He wants to play uptempo with no point guard, 14 ft worth of future hall of famers inside, a sf that couldn’t outrun a small child, and a 34 year old sg. The two players most suited to play uptempo, Ebanks and Clark, aren’t even getting on the floor. He wants to play uptempo and he’s giving minutes to Jamison over Hill! To summarize, you got two terrible PGs, a bunch of old players, players that can dominate in the half court, and he wants to play uptempo. His roster screams half court, but he’s thinking he’s better off trying to run. Kobe was super efficient playing off the ball, and now he’s running pick and roll, which is killing his efficiency. We need a real coach, and we need it badly.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Blah blah blah blah you can’t ignore what Gasol was doing before D’Antoni just for the sake of your argument. This isn’t Gasol/Bynum, it’s Gasol/Howard and Brown got not more out of Gasol than D’Antoni is. Plain and Simple. Plus we are 12 games in, your argument doesn’t even have merit
    Sent from right behind you.

  • fm moreno

    Kobe has something to do with his teammates body language, attitudes, and everything…. He should sometimes learned how to make his teammate happy… c’mon… learn to pass first…. I’m not saying he is doing wrong… just pointing out that without ball rotation…. the system they’re running will never be effective….. I’m a Laker fan….. with or without Steve Nash they should be thinking of scoring in less than 10 seconds and not dribbling till find the ring…. guys like Pau and Dwight absolutely don’t like it….

  • RondU33

    @disqus_rOeXXBD2qs:disqus since you live in Phoenix AND are defending D’Antoni we’ll have to agree to disagree. Mind you, your’e also disagreeing with your former GM Steve Kerr (who’s won 5 rings, with two of the proven best coaches in recent memory & one would think knows what it takes to get there). Or did you forget that D’Antoni was fired because he REFUSED to emphasize defense more. Lets get to “your facts” now shall we. We all understand the premise of his offense, but to say his teams are ridiculously successful is crap. Wasn’t successful in Denver, got fired. Won lots of regular season games with the Suns, playoffs year after year (when teams gear and prepare to stop you) he’s been exposed. (maybe that’s what passes as “ridiculous success” with the Suns, I didn’t know that) In NY he was an utter joke.(and the Knicks had the ’10th best D’ before he quit. see #’s will say what ever u want them to if your’e shrewd) Still early, but looks like the same D’Antoni I know at the helm in LA. As far as http://www.basketball-referenc…you can’t really be serious. 1st off the Suns where 1 seed and the Mavs the 4 seed, that means that Dallas was the underdog-TRUE. Not to mention, look at the coach he beat in that series, the Godfather of his type of “system”, Don Nelson.(another ‘offensive genius’ that could NEVER win in the playoffs Yeah the same guy who also won 67 games with Dal and was bumped in the 1st round). Gee, I think I do know what I’m talking about. You know why, cause I watch the games. Have been following the NBA since ’83, and the league has changed over the years. One constant is no defense, no rings. (..and that’s in any sport.) So you can try to defend D’Antoni, add links that validate my points, and throw subtle jabs at me. I suggest you use the eye test, and perhaps adjust what you deem as “ridiculously successful”.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    He wasn’t fired buddy. He chose to leave. But remember whatever you want.

  • boston

    old lakers

  • Bored

    Kobe is a fake tough guy. his whole demeanor is tough guy but we all know he isnt. right? thats all we are saying.

  • Bored

    mmm….yeah good trade.

    im kidding….

  • pposse

    tim thomas would call him fugazy

  • RondU33

    True (rather than do what Kerr wanted, & exactly what Dolan forced him to do in NY….get a defensive assistant) …also Don Nelson lost in the 2nd round not the 1st. Anywhooo…I don’t post much, but thanks for the lively debate. You really do seem to know your basketball. Eventually we’ll see how D’Antoni’s system pans out in LA..

  • Bored

    Hawks get a pretty sh*tty deal though. J-Smoove has got to be worth more than that, considering they lose Teague too.

  • Caboose

    Hawks get $23 million in expiring contracts.

  • Bored

    it takes 10 turnovers in a game to get him to call himself out

  • Bored

    Hill? are you kidding?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I’m not at all claiming he’s a great defensive coach. Just that it’s not true that he ignored it. And he was actually passable, and will statistically probably look good in LA on that end (he has looked great so far – albeit not consistently – and Dwight isn’t even in shape). I don’t know if LA will win a title (I mean MIA is still the best team on earth by a good margin) but I am confident that with D’Antoni they will compete, just as much as they would have with ANY other coach. At least in this first year. .
    And I appreciate it, come on back whenever you got the debating itch or whatever.

  • brandan evans

    that why i love Kobe, that man wanna win and will hold others accountable.
    i dont care what u say about him. u can never say he’s a loser or doesnt care.
    Pau to me hasnt played well since the ’09-10 season. i wish he can get back to where he was then but i dont know whats gotten into him.
    i knew somethin was wrong when Phil had to hit him on the chest to get goin in the 2011 playoffs.

  • Drig’r

    Co sign everything except the Hill part.

    His hustle vs Orlando would’ve helped us out a ton. He should be playing extended minutes during the regular season if one of our big 4 is injured and no one except Kobe can put the ball in the hoop.

  • Drig’r

    I love Pau to bits but he ain’t the only one on the Lakers playing with injuries………

  • Drig’r

    The problem is that Pau has shown how great he can be. It’s kinda like you getting T-Mac Houston when you expect T-Mac Orlando……..

    Anyways, I’m hoping Nash can help solve some problems…

  • Bored

    ahh, then yes the double AL front court is dope.

  • Redd

    But playing through tendinitis is painful & furthermore is very bad for long term health. For a big man like Gasol that’s even harder cause big man aren’t exactly Sonic, so trying to play fast break on tendinitis equals very hard.

    I admit these guys are athletes but they’re human too. Name one other player you knew playing through tendinitis?

  • Dave

    Lakers all day. They don’t need Steve Nash to be a beast team, just need Pau to step up a bit more and Kobe needs to push that bench a couple notches.

  • http://www.facebook.com/natgeo02 Neitel Agosto

    Miami Heat got this….unless Lakers can gel late in april. They all have artritis. “Do not underestimate the heart of the 2011-12 nba champions!!!” -Me

    Current problems the lakers face in MY OWN opinion. “Steve Blake to Miss 6-8 Weeks Following Surgery” “Nash not sure he could play in the next 2 weeks” “Howard cannot hit a damn free throw” “when is Ron Artest a 3 pt shooter? he just shoots them…he does make 2 or 3, but he aint no 3pt shooter, is he? Lakers bench is not even a bench….they sort of suck…sort of. They got rid of Robert Sacre!!! the best cheerleader since, well….Adam Morrison. ouch.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Guys, guys, let’s be fair… Let him punch Kobe in the mouth, then trade his ass.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    But he swears in interviews… so everything he says has weight.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    LMAO! Comment of the month right there. Gotta love the Shock Exchange.

  • manhandled

    “Pete” and “RePete”. rofl

  • Drig’r

    Rose? I think he played at the start of his career. Bulls fans made a big deal of it back then.
    Kobe. Played with it back when Ariza came to LAL.
    Hayes played in 2010.
    Those are off the top of my head.
    Kawahi’s sitting out with the same problem though.

  • Mike From Spain

    Trade Pau already, he needs a change of scenery. If not for his bloated contract, he’s still serviceable. I think that Pau just can’t stand the atmosphere and also needs rest for that tendinitis.

  • https://twitter.com/Wayne__o BuenoWayno1

    AND Kobe throws another teammate under the proverbial bus in 4… 3…2….

  • shockexchange

    Holla at a playa when you see him in the street.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ron-Green/1085790121 Ron Green

    Hyperbole…Howard would have something to say about that.

  • Redd

    As a Bulls fan who watched almost every game even before D Rose, I can say I don’t remember Rose battling that during the regular season. But all the guys you mentioned are guards & thus it’s a bit easier for them to battle it.

    Perhaps it’s also that Pau is declining but again he’s human & everyone has a different threshold.

  • LakeShow

    Artest is 34% on his career from 3 land.

    He’s shot over or near 40% several times.

    He’s hitting them at a 38% clip so far this year.

    Bob Sac is in the D-League. They didn’t get rid of him.

  • deb

    kobe is too ball hug, its obvious that he’s after his personal achievements! selfish player!!!!

  • Mr. BottomLine

    This DiAntoni offense is not for every one-including Pau. Look at what happened from the time systems changed with the personnel of NYK from then to current Woodson era.

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