Thursday, December 20th, 2012 at 9:00 am  |  142 responses

Pau Gasol Says Mike D’Antoni’s System Makes it ‘Tough’ for Post Players


by Marcel Mutoni / @ marcel_mutoni

Los Angeles Lakers head coach Mike D’Antoni is currently dealing with a problem that 29 other NBA coaches envy greatly: in Pau Gasol and Dwight Howard, D’Antoni has two supremely gifted post players.

Mike’s problem is that he has yet to figure out how to maximize Pau and Dwight’s abilities. Gasol admits that he’s not sure if D’Antoni’s offensive system — which places a premium on three-pointers and perimeter play — can take advantage of the Lakers’ ability to dominate the paint.

Per USA Today:

“I don’t find (playing with Howard) tough,” Gasol said. “It’s more the system right now that makes it tough at times, because (D’Antoni) wants four guys to be spread and one interior guy and it’s a guard-oriented system, so that makes it tough. I think there’s enough looks for both of us. But again, it’s not a system that you post up a lot, so we’ll see. We’ve just got to figure it out, but if you’ve got two great post-up players, you’ve got to utilize it.”

Before the game (Tuesday night), D’Antoni reiterated that Howard would be a focal point in the paint but that Gasol would have to adjust. “It’s Pau who has to expand his game, and he’ll expand out in the corner threes and he needs to take a couple, and we’ll get him in the post when we can,” D’Antoni said.

Kobe Bryant has made public his wish for Pau Gasol to get more touches in the post, but the big man remains frustrated with his role on the team (though the organization claims that they have no intention to trade him this season.)

The Los Angeles Lakers are hoping that Steve Nash and his soon-to-be 39 year-old legs and back can help solve most of these issues when he returns to the court. Fans are understandably nervous and skeptical.

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  • pposse

    ive seen those summer long arguments, it was like watching a scene right out of the movie Fight Club.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the shock exchange could give me a billion dollars. i will still respond the same way.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i don’t know if that’s a good thing or whatever

  • Enigmatic

    wOw who iz dis nbk guy he needz 2 get a lif allz he deos iz right like 50 500 word commets on this cite. Dood get a lif! U prob nvr even watchd nba i bet yuor name standz 4 “no baseketball knowlegde!”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Looooool

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    Looks like somebody has been hanging out with the Nerve.

  • LakeShow

    GLAD YOU DIDN’T COME BACK IN FULL YELL MODE LIKE UNFROZENCAVEMANLAWYER.

  • shockexchange

    No Lake Show, the Shock Exchange did witness those “summer long arguments.” Apparently the Shock Exchange’s life has been in vain.

  • RUBLOCK

    4real wtf fire that chump

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    are you really stupid enough to think i can possibly comment enough to have the most comments on two different accounts? while keeping a job and life? how would that be possible?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i was replying to this, “I HATED Mike Brown. I also hated that we hired him. Ditto for D’Antoni. I really would have preferred we hire Brian Shaw or maybe Rick Adelman (he was available in 2011 I believe), or best of all, PJax when we had the chance to and Jimmy decided to pull a Jimmy.”
    – not you.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    Yessir!

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    but since i’ve seen this i might as well post it.

    .

    i feel like i’ve done this ( http://i.minus.com/iIRemm6yx4yEq.gif ) to everyone in here’s argument. for the record.

  • LakeShow

    I love Keith Bogans looking at him. Adds so much to it. That’s awesome.

  • y

    Excellent points. I personally wish theyd have got the phil jax aura, but your arguments make me willing to give it more time. I want kobe to get that 6th!

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i appreciate it. and it pains me to make these arguments in a sense. because i live in Phoenix. and want so badly to resume my normal role around here as Lakers pessimist. But Lakers fans and every regular Lakers hater seems to be all so willing to jump the gun without Phil around. Which is exactly the opposite of what they’d be doing if he were. Even though they would be having the exact same struggles (except it would probably be Dwight who was unhappy instead of Pau).

  • bill

    Denver and LA should switch coaches ;)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    well then, Jerry Sloan’s system is trash. Rick Adelman’s system is trash. George Karl’s system is trash. Jeff Van Gundy’s system is trash (even though Jeff Van Gundy runs the same exact system as Pat Riley).. Stan Van Gundy’s system is trash. Mike Woodson’s system is trash.

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    Actually let me make this simple, – only,

    - Phil Jackson

    - Red Auerbach

    - John Kundla

    - Pat Riley

    - Gregg Popovich

    - Chuck Daly

    - Alex Hunnam

    - Rudy Tomjanovich

    -Tom Heinsman

    - KC Jones

    - Red Holzman

    - Rick Carlisle

    - Dick Motta

    - Lenny Wilkins

    - Jack Ramsay

    - Erik Spoelstra

    (and i few other’s i can’t think of)

    have had successful systems? even though atleast one of each of those run the same offense (different variation of the same offense) as Jerry Sloan, Rick Adelman, Mike D’Antoni (Paul Westhead), George Karl, and every other coach in the league?
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    K

  • shockexchange

    Quite the contrary. It was more like you took the mound and there was a fight at the bat rack.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    If you haven’t noticed, you live in a different world then everyone else mentally.

  • shockexchange

    When someone has to literally ask whether you are D’Antoni’s lover or nephew, that should be a catalyst to take some self inventory.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Not if you understand people or actually read the other things they said. .
    Oh who am I kidding. People are stupid man. A lot of people. If they think me saying completely logical and rational things that just explain why D’Antoni was hired and Mike Brown was fired (while also saying they shouldn’t have done it) – literally that is exactly what it says – is somehow showing some emotional attachment to him. They are stupid. Or bad at being funny. Maybe good at it if you have a bad sense of humor or also can’t read. Either way, I’m really not surprised you can’t tell the difference. And even if you could, I’m not surprised you won’t admit it, you clearly have an issue with people being honest with you and just tend to keep peddling some idea up until you finally realize it’s over and then say “you out shocked the shock exchange” – which to me sounds like an insult – and if it is, it makes me wonder if you realize what it implies….

  • Enigmatic

    The Nerve is still around? Lmao the more things change…

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    D’antoni ain’t cut from the same clothe as these guys.

  • danpowers

    im bad at guessing, you tell me. im reading and making notes

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    lol, just that Nash has presided over a top 10 offense every year since 2004-05. it’s safe to assume things will fall into place as soon as he’s acclimated. Even though he’s 38.

  • danpowers

    wouldnt suprise me after i have seen what kidd is still doing for the knicks. u still didnt answer if the darrell armstrong magic, terrell brandon cavs and gerald wallace bobcats wouldnt count as defensive oriented squads that were quite successful (for their level of talent) without great iso palyers or guys to protect the rim? you think this couldnt still be a successfull concept for so-so talented teams?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    The Terrell Brandon 1999-2000 Timberwolves that were 52-30 were the 8th best offense in the league and 12th best defense. So idk what you are trying to say about that team? Garnett was scoring 23 on that team with 5 assists, they had a go to guy.
    .
    .The Darrell Armstrong Magic team you are referring to i assume represents the lock-out season? — which was a 50 game lock-out season with Chuck Daly calling the shots. That team was an anomaly in a very short season that lacked a real training camp, not a rule you can depend on repeating itself.

    .The Gerald Wallace Bobcats went 44-38 with Stephen Jackson scoring 22 a game, and then got absolutely destroyed and swept in the playoffs. No, i wouldn’t consider that team “highly successful” – or related to this situation, considering Jackson was a better individual basketball player & scorer then anyone gave him credit for.

  • danpowers

    i said the brandon cavs, not timberwolves.

    wasnt playing slow and defensive focused “sexy” in the 90s for so-so teams to reach the playoffs? anyway, i see that this is 2012 now and wouldnt necessarily work with any squad. id just loved to see that in ny, as any style without commitment on d doesnt really suit the jersey

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the Terrell Brandon Cavaliers were a top 5-10 offense man.
    .
    but yes, they played at a very slow pace. but their offense was better then their defense.
    .

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    oh wait, 94-95 they were 22nd in offense and 3rd in defense. didn’t see that year. but they got smashed in the playoffs….losing 3-1, scoring 81-80-79 in their 3 losses.

  • danpowers

    well, the knicks went down 0-4 against the celtics so that woulve been an improvement lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    ok that’s fair, but you are a Knicks fan not a Bobcats fan. You got to want your team to actually compete. My argument has been about actually competing lol, not just making the playoffs and getting your ass whipped. The only chance teams without a go to scorer have at competing is by playing up tempo and taking the best chances they can get.

  • danpowers

    then let me correct myself: they sometimes scored less points than a soccer-team scores goals lol. no matter how effective their offense was, the highest team average in brandons time as their no1 point guard was 90,5ppg (dont come up with metrics if were talking about the 90s please).

    were drifting away anyway. is my statement so wrong that dantonis basketball knowledge really lacks defensive coaching skills and that it appears that he rather takes it “the players need to adapt to my system instead of me creating a system that fits the roster”?

    i mean his perfect situation was phoenix, he shouldve never have left there.

  • danpowers

    hard to argue that. my 90s-knicks-guts are just still rebelling against this insight lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he isn’t statistically a bad defensive coach. he is just a bad defensive coach without good offensive players….. you get what i mean? his offense literally relies on efficiency. When he doesn’t have an efficient offensive lead his system starts to really turn South.

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    actually you know what, this is why D’Antoni is a very good coach that sometimes looks very bad. – he coaches a feast or famine system, where if the team can’t put the offense together the defense suffers. As they relinquish oodles and noodles of long rebounds and are frequently not in position to play any semblance of transition defense, and if they do recover, are regularly left with mismatches at multiple positions due to the situation where they failed on the offensive end. It’s kind of like the concept of High School/College teams that live and die by the three. Since in those rules there is no illegal defense violation they are a more extreme example as they can play a zone defense, which is much much easier to recover into, and in turn allows them to offensively be more reckless….i’m sure you’ve seen that in your time playing? The D’Antoni system is like a complicated, NBA version of those systems, except D’Antoni DOES adapt his system to fit his player’s (Suns after the Shaq trade completely altered their system to accommodate Shaq and still remained the top offense in the NBA) But he also makes mistakes, and needs time to succeed (right now he is using Dwight in the role Shaq played, but he’s trying to make Dwight the 2nd option rather then the 3rd like Shaq was, and he doesn’t have a PG to get him the ball – which should get worked out).

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    Does that make more sense as to where I am coming from?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    haha touchè

  • danpowers

    true that. but this makes these worries pointless anyway. with their injuries against the celtics it was tough to win that series with any coach even though at least two games couldve went either way, that was closer than the sweep implied.
    the big mess was the inability to cope with melo and iso plays for whatever reason. let it be the players or dantonis or both’s fault – i didnt work and as a knick fan i want defense which didnt rlly happen under dantoni.

    back to the lakers: do you really think they could be successful beyond the second round with dantoni?

  • danpowers

    uhm yup, makes perfectly sense. its just that i dont really pay attention why a team gives up a ton of points when… it gives up a ton of points. even stat once said under dantoni he didnt really learn any defensive rotations, neither advice how to improve on d. i dont know if this was just an excuse by stat for his cheap d or if there was also some truth in that.

    anyway, let him be a decent coach. but i think you can also understand why i am really happy as a knicks fan that he left the big apple

  • JL

    This is a pro coach who can’t utiliize one of the top post big men in the game? it’s like having a ferrari and saying I don’t know how to drive it fast on the freeway. So his alternative right now is letting Kobe shoot it tons (I know he’s very efficient this year) and piss off his teammates.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Amar’e said nobody ever taught him how to play defense. After like 5 years in the NBA. D’Antoni wasn’t there his first couple years, so he just has a penchant for blaming others on that end.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    You as bad as these Otha chumps mayne

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