Saturday, December 8th, 2012 at 3:48 pm  |  188 responses

Stephen Jackson Calls Out Serge Ibaka


by Ryne Nelson / @slaman10

Late in the fourth quarter of OKC’s 114-108 win over the Lakers last night, Serge Ibaka and Metta World Peace locked elbows and sustained prolonged death stares beneath the basket. A double technical was called, and no one overreacted.

Following the game, MWP’s former teammate, Stephen Jackson, who has come to the defense of Metta World Peace before, promised to go in “Abaka’s [sic] mouth” if the big man walks up on him again:

Stak5 clarified his tweet this morning, posting to his Instagram: “my ibaka comment had nothing to do with Ron artest. Last 2 times we played he ran up on me and i told him in the game next time u run up on me im going in ya mouth. Im speaking for myself. For u all who wanna jump to conclusions.”

It’ll be interesting to see if David Stern has anything to say about this.

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  • zogs19994

    “Next time he run up on me im goin in his mouth”

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    PAUSE NlGGGA!!!

  • AQWORD

    i wonder if theres a soundbite with what mwp told him there

  • speedy

    Sounds like WWE to me.
    Cage match?

  • Otis

    I like Ibaka, but there’s no doubt that both Artest and Jackson would pulverise him if push ever really did come to shove

  • Caboose

    MWP or Jackson would wreck Ibaka in a fight.

  • Datkid

    I disagree. Ibaka’s taller bigger and just as strong. Plus he’s from the congo. Stack5 and Mwp DO NOT WANT it with dude.

  • palo

    yeah, i bet Ibaka can fight, i bet he saw some crazy psycho guerilla sh!t bask in Congo…

  • Caboose

    You think Ibaka is as strong as Metta? Metta has a good 30 pounds on him. SJax, dude is dirty.

  • Caboose

    He’s from Congo, not the Democratic Republic of the Congo. One is much more stable and has substantially less violence, war crimes, and state illegitimacy than the other.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    Stephen Jackson is not in the same league physically as MWP and Ibaka

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    you guys do realize that MWP is shorter and weighs more than Dwight Howard right? One of the strongest dudes in the league…not to mention the craziest

  • Datkid

    I think he might be almost as strong, and I KNOW Ibaka’s taller, longer and probably quicker, which would help negate some of Metta’s strength in a fight.

  • swk

    Ibaka seems to be so big hearted… modest, dormant beast. He is getting some confidence right now, with helps him in scoring. I don’t like to see him in fight, that would be a big disgrace, but if it would ever happen I want to see him doing a classy act, not animal brawl.

  • Datkid

    plus he’s definitely stronger than Sjax. who is absolutely about it, no question, but that’s probably not the best matchup for him fight wise.

  • Datkid

    true. but the fact of the matter is that ron artest and steven jackson are from american slums. Ibaka is still from a much rougher African one. I’m going with Iblocka on this.

  • shutup

    Just because your from a tough place doesn’t make you tough. Obv you know nothing of Queensbridge; Artest is a beast, and Jackson has already proven himself. As for a fight we both know it’ll only last about two punches before its broken up, and my money is on Jackson in skills with his hands, now if they were fighting tigers or rabid baboons I’d give the nod to Ibaka’s “Congo” experience.

  • shutup

    Ibaka has always had that nasty streak, he’s gotten into a couple of these incidents in the last two years.

  • nick

    “goin in his mouth” what bout to blow a load in his mouth?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Well, that’s nothing but racist nonsense. Can you explain why the Democratic Republic of Congo has “state illegitimacy”? Please, do.
    Also, my money is on Ibaka and his death grip.

  • Lorne

    Right. Because Africans sit around finding wild animals to fight in the jungle. Look you ignorant, sheltered piece of trash, why don’t you either do what your handle reads or finally contribute something to the site. Things are a lot less ignorant around here when you don’t comment.

  • reese

    What do tigers have to do with Africa? Your borderline racist “joke” was not only unfunny but an epic FAIL. Go read a book.

  • Caboose

    Racist nonsense? Genius, there’s the Republic of the Congo and the Democratic Republic of the Congo. The Democratic Republic was ruled by Mobutu for over 3 decades wherein he committed genocide, election fraud, and other horrible things. In the international community, The Democratic Republic is considered the most failed actual state in the world (given that Somalia has no state structure). The Republic of the Congo is one of the most stable governments in southern Africa. In 2010, the Republic of the Congo passed a law which guarantees the rights of indigenous peoples, the first of its kind in the continent. So shut up about things you clearly know nothing about.

  • shockexchange

    Drama is the last thing MWP and Stephen Jackson need at this point. In Indy MWP was poised to be the face of the L, but traded it all in for some late game wilding. He should change his name to “WMT” – a complete “Waste of %#$@!? Talent”

  • shutup

    I edited it because after some research found out Tiger’s don’t live in Africa, even though there species may be found in the wild out there, Lions are more prevalent. It wasn’t racist at all not even borderline, it was more tongue and cheek at the fact that he kept mentioning his being from “Congo” somehow made him a tough guy. To me it’s funny when someone can defend one stereotype while claiming another one is racist, maybe you need to alter your perception of the world and stop thinking that all Africans are tough guys. Who reads books anymore? Go cash in some of your rubles or conflict diamonds and buy yourself a Kindle.

  • shutup

    LMFAO he kept bringing up that his being from the Congo gave him an advantage when it came to being tough, I didn’t say it to be racist, but fact of the matter is more wild animals live in that part of the world, oh and FYI all three of the aforementioned men are black so supporting one instead of the other is in no way “racist” . As for sheltered piece of trash save it for someone who care what you think, and that do what your handle says ish is old, your not clever, your not the first one that thought that ish was cute, did you call your boyfriend over and say look I just burned this guy using his own handle to insult him, did it give you a good chuckle? Did typing out your comment give you a feeling of righteous indignation? Did it make you feel smart, trying to educate me about the fact that Africans don’t fight wild animals?

  • shutup

    Damn son you must read a lot, how’d you get so smart?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Umad, bro? Your comment is racist because it completely ignores what white people (i.e. Belgian and US imperialists) did to the DRC. Prior to Mobutu, the DRC was more developed than South Africa and was on a progressive, socialist/Pan-African path. Well, who assassinated Patrice Lumumba and put Mobutu in power? Oh yeah, white people.
    Why is the DRC a so-called “failed state”? Because the US trained, armed, and funded Rwandan and Ugandan proxy armies to invade the mineral rich regions of the Congo so that Western mining companies could profit off of Congolese slave labor. Today, Uganda and Rwanda are the ones committing genocide in the Congo, on behalf of US corporate interests.
    This nonsense about the DRC being a failed state is nothing but a racist caricature that paints the Congolese–the victims–as inept savages who can’t govern themselves properly. This “African dictator” caricature is convenient though, when guilty white liberals want to wash their hands of the dirt their countries are doing. They aren’t a failed state; they’re a TARGETED state. *White people* committed genocide and other horrible things there.
    And there’s a reason for this type of propaganda right now… the US has been trying to overthrow President Joseph Kabila for years, ever since US proxies in the region assassinated his father (Laurent Kabila) during the so-called Second Congolese War. And for whom is the US pining to replace Joseph Kabila? Etienne Tshisikedi… who betrayed Lumumba and worked for Mobutu.
    Anytime some white dude tries to call African countries “failed states” and runs his trap about “African dictators,” it IS racist.

  • shutup

    Judging by that tweet its obvious that Jackson wants it with dude and as for MWP well he didn’t back down either. Methinks Ibaka has been hanging around fake tough guy Perkins a bit too much who got that act from KG when they were both Celtics.

  • shutup

    Here you go again…..can’t miss a chance to bash America and the worlds white people, and you have the nerve to call someone else a racist.

  • Caboose

    Did I blame anyone? No. I’m being as subjective as possible, in that, the stability of the DRC is far less than the Republic. It’s that simple, come on now, you’re the one trying to make something of it. You always love picking the race battle. How about sit this one out sparky, and accept that this isn’t a racial issue? I was simply speaking on the governments of both, and if you think that the DRC is a more stable, safe, and fair state than the RC, well, whatever.

  • Lorne

    Moron, the race of the other two men is irrelevant. You still made a dumbass, stereotypical, ignorant crack about an African fighting wild animals, as a billion other racist dummies have done before. You didn’t think it would come off as racist? Either you knew it would, or you’re really just too stupid to share your opinions in public. Nothing you said justifies it. You typed a long, lame, emotional response like an embarrassed preteen and you still came off just as stupid as you did in the original offending comment.

    Sharing my disgust with idiots like you always makes me feel good.

  • Caboose

    The tongue-in-cheek should be obvious…

  • reese

    Who defended what? WTF are you even talking about? Anyway, you had to research what a fifth grader could tell you off the top of their head? Nice. It was racist, and some d-bag on an anonymous website isn’t going to convince anyone that he’s the exception when it comes to racist jokes about Africans. Look how defensive you are. And FYI, whether it’s an e-book or a paperback, go f*cking read more before you further make a jackass out of yourself.

  • Lorne

    I don’t recall asking you about anything regarding his comment. I’m definitely not interested in your opinion on what should be taken lightly. Thanx tho.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    It was really the word “illegitimacy” that bugged me, cuz I’m tired of
    Americans thinking they can judge which states are “legitimate” or not. You don’t see how that’s racist? The fact that people in predominantly white countries feel they have the moral license to do this (when their countries are directly responsible for creating these so-called “failed states” in the first place)?
    Anyways, if we’re talking about stability, then it’s different… so alright. Oh and I didn’t know about that law the ROC
    passed–that’s pretty cool. I’ll look into it.

  • Caboose

    You make me feel small inside.

  • Lorne

    Just because his perspective about various issues is more fact based and reality based than you ignorant ass doesn’t mean it’s okay to dismiss FACTS as racist. Besides, Teddy brings a lot more to this site that you ever will. God knows between your stupidity and Caboose being an insufferable know-it-all (with all 15 years he’s been on the planet), this site needs Teddy’s perspective.

  • Lorne

    Don’t you mean you’re being as OBJECTIVE as possible? For someone who always pokes his nose in everyone else’s convos to correct them you should be more careful, unless you’re actually admitting to being subjective.

  • Caboose

    Legitimacy meaning: fairness of elections, justified use of force, recognition of citizens, and provision of basic public goods. That’s what legitimate means (to me anyways) in most political science discussions. It doesn’t matter (in this discussion) who did what, the fact is that the DRC is much less “legitimate” (my definition) as a state than the ROC. Fair?

  • Caboose

    My apologies, yes. Objective. And you misspelled conversation.

  • Lorne

    Funny. I can’t recall even attempting to write out the word ‘conversations’. I do recall intentionally using a slang word in place of it, except unlike you I added an ‘s’ to indicate multiple conversations. Again, thank you.

  • Caboose

    I’m willing to have a reasoned discussion about this. I was just pointing out that shutup’s comment was likely meant to be satirical, not an actual reflection of what he thinks. Surely tongue-in-cheek makes it more acceptable, yes? As for what’s going on between Teddy and I, I was pointing out a fundamental difference between the two countries. It is true, the DRC is less stable than the ROC. Teddy is also absolutely correct: it is western states that have contributed to the instability and illegitimacy (see my prior comments for my definition of such) of the DRC vs the ROC. But the fact is that the ROC is safer as a state than the DRC. We can have a discussion about which is more stable OR why one is more stable than the other, but not both simultaneously. As for racism, that’s a tricky issue. To me, if you provide upfront that you are making a joke, then offense shouldn’t be taken. It’s a joke. That’s just my perspective. Shutup could have made his humor more clear, that’s obvious. But if you know now, it was a joke, are you offended? If you do take offense to humor, then that is a fundamental, philosophic difference between us that is perfectly acceptable.

  • Lorne

    I don’t mind having a real discussion on it. In fact, I have a question for the both of you. What was the authority that granted either of you the right to decide which racist jokes people should and shouldn’t take offense to? Racism is a tricky issue only for those who want to decide for others what should and shouldn’t offend them. What’s funny to you isn’t funny to me and vice versa. The way to avoid such controversies is to simply not go out of your way to make such dumb “jokes”. If an individual lacks the creativity and the wit to find other ways to be humorous then they should leave the jokes to people who are actually funny. This is not some fantasy post-racial world where all things are equal.

  • Caboose

    For the record, I did not make a joke. I’m of the opinion that if ANYTHING said is under the umbrella of humor, it is ok. That’s just how I see it, but I wouldn’t expect that to apply outside myself, which is why I do NOT make controversial jokes. To me, trying to find some line between offensive jokes and inoffensive ones is impossible; it’s all or nothing. And, as said, to me, if it’s a joke, nothing is offensive. I basically subscribe to the Ricky Gervais theory of comedy. Clearly, that is not for everyone, so I don’t try to tread that line. I avoid it altogether. Fair?

  • Lorne

    I can respect that you view the issue that way, though I am not in agreement. I understand your reasoning behind it. It’s different than those who actually make the jokes because you avoid offending others while maintaing your right to not be offended at all. I can’t actually knock that, even if I don’t hold that position myself.

  • Caboose

    Exactly, it’s not washing my hands of the affair, it’s more just letting people do what they want. Where do you draw the line then on an offensive vs inoffensive joke? Is there a line?

  • Redd

    You’re equal in stupidity to Teddy.

  • Caboose

    No, he’s not. Keep reading the conversation, he just has a different philosophy.

  • eddiemack

    You’re calling someone out after you post racist and homophobic comments? Seriously, shutup, just one yourself. You have mo moral ground to stand on after the type of bs you posted here.

  • Caboose

    Hey hey, calm down. We’re having a reasoned discussion below, ok? Feel free to join in there. Thank you.

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