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Tuesday, January 29th, 2013 at 10:55 am  |  72 responses

Allen Iverson Not Willing to Play in the D-League


Word got out yesterday that the Texas Legends, the Dallas Mavericks’ D-League affiliate, were interested in the services of one Allen Iverson. The Answer responded via Twitter this morning, essentially saying thanks, but no thanks: “I thank Donnie (Nelson) and Dallas for the consideration and while I think the D-League is a great opportunity, it is not the route for me … I realize my actions contributed to my early departure from the NBA, should God provide me another opportunity I will give it my all … My dream has always been to complete my legacy in the NBA … To my fans, I love yall! Not a day goes by that I am not asked when am I coming back, we all must accept my return is not up to just me.”

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  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    From Allen Iverson’s Twitter:

    -”I thank Donnie and Dallas for the consideration and while I think the D-League is a great opportunity, it is not the route for me.”

    -”I realize my actions contributed to my early departure from the NBA, should God provide me another opportunity I will give it my all”

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    The D-League is another opportunity you jackass lol.

  • 23

    Nobody can say he was never given a chance.

  • 23

    Some people never change. And that’s why the saying goes “Every man’s strength is also his biggest weakness.”

  • snasty10

    Agreed, I’m still a fan, but damn… does he always need to shoot himself in the foot, or put his foot in his mouth

  • Andyk

    hahaha hilarious!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    We talkin about the D-League!…not the NBA, not the CBA, not the ABA, we talkin about the D-League! What’re we talkin about man? We talkin about the D-League. I know that I killed my own career due to my ego, but we talkin about the D-League!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    He’s had tons of chances. This is the last one.

  • shockexchange

    To ask A.I. to play in the D-League is an insult. Dude brought a lot of unnecessary baggage with him by getting into fights with his girlfriend/wife, an alleged beef with Stackhouse and his entourage, giving backtalk to Larry Brown, missing practice, etc. But let’s not forget that ESPN and the media reeled in a of advertisers/website hits chronicling A.I.’s fights with his girlfriend/wife, an alleged beef with Stackhouse and his entourage, giving backtalk to Larry Brown, missing practice, etc.

  • Redd

    Nice quote

  • Redd

    Man, he’s just ruining it both for himself & the fans who’ve supported him. Mostly however, for himself.

  • T-Money

    damn, this is sad. pride has really derailed his career. mike james killed in the d-league and got back to the show in less than a week.

    ai should be in the league right now getting buckets off the bench for a contender like ray allen is doing. he could have embraced a 6th man role and be a rich man’s jason terry.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Why is it an insult? The man is what, 38? The fact that some team is even giving him a chance to be affiliated with an NBA team in any way is a miracle. Its not an insult, its an opportunity. And clearly, he doesn’t deserve it.

  • shockexchange

    You don’t disrespect the former face of the L like that. Either he can play in the show or he can’t. That D-League team only wants A.I. as a sideshow in order to sell tickets.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the D-League is not an insult. That is the only way he can get back in the NBA. because, if you don’t remember, he has never proven to be ok with coming off the bench and playing a role player role. So, he has to PROVE he is able to do that. By going to the D-League and playing for the love of the game, rather than to say he made it back or whatever, he is showing he is willing to “sacrifice” so to speak, which will be a huge boost to the opinion of him throughout the league.

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    Mike James, Jamal Tinsley. Two guys who have no business being in the NBA (or wouldn’t 10 years ago), who went to the D-League and earned their way back in by changing the perception of them from troubled veterans, to lockerroom presence, worth spending money on. Iverson, conceivably, would have to do less than they did in the D-League to get his chance. But he has to go to the D-League in order for that opportunity to present itself. It’s not an insult. It’s the way the NBA has gone.

  • shockexchange

    We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one. A former MVP and face of the L for many years gets an invitation to the D-League? Either he goes straight to the Show or keep his name out ya mouth.

  • Max

    Tinsley has actually had some solid games this year.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you are right, we should just be happy with him playing in China, and considering the Puerto Rican and Mexican leagues. That serves his legacy MUCH better.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    and he’s been absolutely awful other than that. yet, he’s f*cking starting for an NBA team. I think it’s pretty obvious the D-League is the smart choice for Iverson (and it has no effect on his legacy, contrary to stupid v opinion).

  • KBlank

    Disrespect? Iverson has most definitely been a top 15 player in the NBA, speaking in the context of the last 15 years. But as the road for him as a player has been bumpy since Detroit, he has basically missed two seasons of professional basketball and you take his age into consideration, then what does respect have to do with it? Dallas needs nothing but production on court right now, so why would they risk it and not check out the player´s shape and will. It might have taken him two weeks´ to be on Dallas´ bench if Mark Cuban would´ve been ready to take that sort of chances. My bet is, that he would´ve done it. Being the former face of the league has nothing to do with earning another chance the way everybody else has to do it if you´re not proven. It´s not like he´s been playing for a top team in the EuroLeague for the last seasons and still shows the capability to run with the best and be a solid role player off the bench on NBA level.

  • shockexchange

    In China, Puerto Rico and Mexico, we at least don’t have to witness his ingnominy firsthand … we only have to hear about tangentially.

  • spit hot fiyah

    it’s ova! “kenny smith voice”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    HA!
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    Because you watch SO MANY D-League games right?

  • shockexchange

    (Fredo Corleone voice) “Mike, you don’t treat a man of Moe Greene’s stature like that! That’s not how they do things out here Mikey. Either he goes to the show, or keep his name out ya mouth.”

  • ATL dynamite

    Agreed. Looking at how Jamal Tinsley has become the starter for the Jazz recently, it seems like AI can do the same and be a NBA starter if he want to (given that he can and give proofs to the GMs). He considers himself a legend and refuses to take the badge off, this I totally understand.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    The D-League is the farm system of the NBA.

    .

    - How you feel about Roger Clemens career after his time in the minor leagues?

    - How about Ricky Henderson?

    - How about John Smoltz?

    . You are going to have to catch up with the times sooner or later. The D-League is where former player’s who find themselves out of the league HAVE to go. You or anyone acting like a player is too good for the league doesn’t make a difference. Not for anyone but yourself. It doesn’t affect anyone’s view of a player’s career. Anyone that matter’s that is.

  • shutup

    Read this article and it reminded me of this joke, thank god I was able to google it and find it so I didn’t butcher it when I typed it…

    A religious man is on top of a roof during a great flood. A man comes by in a boat and says “get in, get in!” The religous man replies, ” no I have faith in God, he will grant me a miracle.”

    Later the water is up to his waist and another boat comes by and the guy tells him to get in again. He responds that he has faith in god and god will give him a miracle. With the water at about chest high, another boat comes to rescue him, but he turns down the offer again cause “God will grant him a miracle.”

    With the water at chin high, a helicopter throws down a ladder and they tell him to get in, mumbling with the water in his mouth, he again turns down the request for help for the faith of God. He arrives at the gates of heaven with broken faith and says to Peter, I thought God would grant me a miracle and I have been let down.” St. Peter chuckles and responds, “I don’t know what you’re complaining about, we sent you three boats and a helicopter.”

  • shockexchange

    No way in hades would Smoltz have gone to the minors after the numbers he put up in the majors. Clemens would have taken enough steroids so that his performance never would have dropped off, so he’s a moot point. And if that D-League team from Dallas had insulted Ricky Henderson with that invitation the headlines would have read – “Ricky Henderson refuses to apologize for burning down D-League Arena in Dallas.”

  • speedy

    Didn’t Amare do a game in the D-League before returning from his injury?
    I don’t understand what the problem is.
    Show, that you have it in you a few games, then get your ticket to the NBA.
    Sorry that is not a sign of disrespect, AI didn’t play at a high level for some years now. I wouldn’t give him a contract before knowing he is able to do what I wan’t him to do.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Smoltz went to the minors before he came back to play in the bullpen (where he won another Cy Young).

    . Ricky Henderson made numerous trips to the Minor Leagues.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Nice one man.

  • shockexchange

    *crickets*

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    awesome.

  • shockexchange

    The difference is that there was “lifeline” back to the L for Amare – same with John Smoltz. The problem with guys like MJ, A.I., Magic, et. al. is that they set the bar so high for themselves that it’s almost impossible to go back.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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    i’m sorry, you putting AI in the Magic and MJ conversation is too damn funny.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you realize the Crickets are coming from you when you say that right? i mean, when you don’t have anything to respond with and just say *crickets* that implies you have no rebuttal. just checking, not talking sh!t.

  • shockexchange

    nbk, the Shock Exchange doesn’t do the “back and forth.” You should think long and hard before commenting anymore today … you know what comes after “49.”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    fiFTy.

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    again, Fiddy: Word used by morons who cant pronounce or for that matter spell fifty http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fiddy

  • shockexchange

    Not quite an “apples – to – apples” comparison with Smoltz, A.I. and Hendo. Smoltz had a lifeline to the L and Henderson was tryna to make it back to the majors … dude had to have been in his 40s. If Dallas really wanted A.I. they would have (i) watched some of his current games and (ii) invited to camp on the strength of what they saw. All of this is a moot point though. A.I. isn’t going to the D-League.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    I don’t blame him. As a huge AI fan (he’s my favorite player of all-time), I’d like to see him retire and just go into the Hall of Fame when it’s time. He’ll never get the respect he really deserves because of who he chose to be…which was himself. For better or worse. The anti-Jordan. Anti-Kobe. Blessed with unique athletic gifts. Never had the work ethic because for so long, he didn’t need it. Every star since 96 who is famous for just being themselves owes him. None of them have to try to be Jordan anymore because AI made it clear that he wasn’t going to try to be anyone but himself and it was either going to be accepted or not.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Ricky Henderson is a pretty great parallel, i mean, Iverson is the basketball equivolent of 40, and does wanna get back to the “majors”.

    . “If Dallas really wanted A.I. they would have (i) watched some of his current games and (ii) invited to camp on the strength of what they saw.” – the last time Iverson played in a real basketball game was 2010 man. WHAT are you talking about? he would have had to agree to play in the D-League for them to watch a “current” game.

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    Do you actually know what you are talking about? or are you just assuming Iverson has been playing?

  • shockexchange

    “46, 47, 48, 49 …”

  • Ant

    Love of the FAME..no love of the GAME

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    this is what you revert to when you have nothing to say? i mean, instead of just walking away, or accepting you are wrong, or don’t know about something you stated, you just revert back to what you claim you would do on a basketball court? really?
    .
    speaking of, how is the college team search going? find anywhere yet? — really asking.

  • Anthony Dixon

    Allen Iverson is a HOF…. he better not go to the d league

  • shockexchange

    We just agree to disagree on whether (i) the invitation was disrespectful and/or (ii) a ruse to sell tickets to D-League games. Secondly, my son has forbade me from talking about him on social media.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    HAHA so old Ralph is the one who uses what he thinks would happen (definitely wouldn’t) on a basketball court to win arguments? a 40 something year old adult man, who is successful enough to publish his own book resorts to that? oh dear.
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    and good luck to your son. i apologize for thinking this was him. and am shocked & disappointed it isn’t. the disappointment stems from knowing a father and (what i assume is a) respected person in his community acts this way on the internet.

  • Anthony Dixon

    Amare is nothing compared to A.I . Amare may be playing now but it’s about legacy.

  • Fat Lever

    Unless I’m missing something, what current games are there footage of where you can see AI balling? Precisely the reason why he got a D-League invite.

    You also realize AI is like 37, 38, right? Dallas is doing what every sound investor does when kicking the tires on an investment. They’re doing their homework.

  • shockexchange

    Fat, it’s more about respect and protocol. It doesn’t sound like much of an investment really. Dallas would give him an initial look to see if can play, then they will witness his performance over 40 or 50 games before making a longer term commitment.

  • http://twitter.com/RyanDeahn RyanDeahn

    Pride before the fallen.

  • The Philosopher

    Iverson has hurt the game, in my opinion, almost as much as he has helped it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    You don’t really expect a guy with AI’s resume to go do the D-League, do you?

  • 23

    I’d say mostly for his fans. He seems to be perfectly fine with not going all out again to enter the league, when his fans bring his name up everyday. I’m pretty sure 10 years from now his fans will make claims he can still help a championship caliber team

  • The Philosopher

    “PRACTICE?!? MIKE DIDN’T PRACTICE.”
    And they did not play in some bush league, either.
    SO… that is his argument.

  • Josh Elam

    I would say the vast majority of 37 year olds that have played in the NBA would be unwilling to play in the d-league. And, no disrespect but read the post. It quoted everything you quoted already.

  • TBRK

    his way or no way…..or China

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    LOL – ahh, ““Everything deep is also simple and can be reproduced simply as long as its reference to the whole truth is maintained. But what matters is not what is witty but what is true.” <– Albert Schweitzer

  • The Philosopher

    Without a doubt.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    The vast majority of 37 year olds that have played in the NBA aren’t trying to come back either…
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    And really? No way? I never noticed when i read it the first time and cited it. maybe i just reposted specifically those words to give clear context to my comment? maybe

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    your comment reminded me of that quote so much. now that you raised that flag so obviously I think that pretty much explains the structure of Shock Exchanges commenting in it’s entirety

  • davidR

    who would’ve thought iverson and vince would have a chance to play on the same team, both off the bench?

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Best little men to ever play the game are Isiah Thomas, Tiny Archibald and AI. No need for AI to ever step foot on a basketball court again unless he really wants to. And the only court he should step on is an NBA court. He’s walking into the Hall of Fame easily. He may think he needs to go out a certain way. But to his real fans, he has nothing left to prove. Few players have had more impact on the game than he has whether people want to admit it or not.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    but, since HE wants to play in the NBA again, the D-League is his only route. And it’s not going to affect his legacy negatively if he does. It’s really just the idea that he may fail that could hurt his legacy.

  • Larry

    If you actually expected Iverson to accept that invitation to the D-League beyond a reasonable doubt WITHOUT ANY GUARANTEE of ever getting back to the nba (i.e. being signed by an nba team), you are an idiot. The profession of the average “Developmental League” player is full of uncertainty and hope. Uncertainty in not knowing if they will make it to the nba and stay there. Many players are signed to 10-day nba contracts and that is as close as they ever get after they expire. Many players don`t get any contracts. Yet they continue to HOPE for the opportunity to get there – in most cases (greater than 50%) though after months or sometimes yrs of playing in the D-League they accept defeat, and either play overseas or switch professions. This is what Dallas was offering. A D-League opportunity. NO GUARANTEES. And from the beginning, I was skeptical whether or not Iverson would want to subject himself to such ambiguity after an already 3 yr wait and in my opinion Dallas knew this as well.
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    On a different subject, the lack of LOGIC and sports knowledge on this site is astonishing. Obviously, people have some strong feelings, bias (positive and negative) towards Iverson but that should never interfere with common sense. He left the league as a borderline starter/reserve in February or March 2010. He became a free agent following the mutual separation between him and team. Since then he has been excommunicated despite the consensus among “sophisticated” basketball minds that he can contribute 10-15 points a game (at the very least).

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    http://bebe310.blogspot.com/2012/05/allen-iverson-vs-2011-12-nba-guards.html
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    In addition to playing in Turkey (the only professional basketball league he`s played in other than the nba), Iverson has also played in local pro am games, exhibition games, and has maintained regular workouts throughout this period from 2010-present – some of which I have video footage.
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    In light of other nba veterans returning to the nba via training camps and 1 yr minimum contracts, I don`t think it`s too much to ask for the same opportunity for Iverson. And clearly, Iverson feels the same. There is a substantial difference between playing in the D-League in an attempt to get into the nba as opposed to already having a guaranteed contract from an nba team but playing in the D-League to improve fitness or to rehab an injury.
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    Rasheed Wallace had played his last nba game in 2010 (same as Iverson) until recently being by the knicks. The knicks were reportedly interested in his services during the offseason and they backed up their interest when they invited him to training camp and later signed him. THAT IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN TO THE NBA. It is the closest one can ever get to ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY or GUARANTEE in sports rhetoric (because a player can be waived). Even so, there is an obvious distinction between the two transactions: one player was assured an nba return while the other was not. Give Iverson the same opportunity. Give him the same assurance. That`s all he`s asking for.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    haven’t heard this since the pursuit of happiness

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    agreed

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    A guy who’s done the things he’s done in this league has to have a pretty huge ego. He will never be able to entertain the idea of playing in the D-League. Guys who have had the kind of career he’s had don’t play in the D-League. One day, if he doesn’t get a call from an NBA team, he’ll have to retire. He’ll be 38 this year so that day is coming soon.

  • Mike Jones

    What former mvp came back through the D-league, what former 4 time scoring champion came back through the D-league, what former 3 time steal leader came back through the D-league, what former 11 time all star came back through the D-league. I can go on and on, Iverson is way to good to go through the D-League.

    Did Jordan have to go through the D-league when we returned for the Wizards no and neither should Iverson.

    I love Iverson he is the reason i started watching the NBA, But i don’t want him to come back and ruin his career stats. But in saying that i would love nothing more than Iverson to be back in my life.
    But he is too good for the D-league, A team needs to give him a training camp if they are serious about having him on a team, let him have a run against your current roster and he will put any reserve PG to shame.

  • kick back

    on point.

  • ballin

    ey so you think A.I. will still be waiting for the call up to the NBA at his hall of fame speech??

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I understand, but egos don’t create reality.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Rasheed Wallace has also shown the ability to accept a bench role. Rasheed is also a big man, who has NEVER been a defensive liability. Comparing him to Iverson just because they are similar doesn’t mean your argument is legitimate. There is no reason for Iverson to feel entitled to a guarantee, because he has never proven to be able to play under anyone else’s terms. Cute that you think you know so much more than the average person in here and come about citing f*cking open run footage and a few games over seas 2 years ago while boasting about Iverson deserving a guarantee because he was wronged a year before that. Sorry Larry, but despite you being correct about how Iverson was excommunicated from the league, he is not deserving of any guarantee from any team.
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    “That’s all he’s asking for” <— why don't you guarantee him that money if he doesnt make it, if that's "all" he's asking for?

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