Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 at 10:25 am  |  99 responses

Amar’e Stoudemire Says He is Learning Defense for the First Time


Perhaps unintentionally, Amar’e Stoudemire took a shot at his former head coach Mike D’Antoni, while praising his current one Mike Woodson. When it comes to defense, Stoudemire says it’s the first time it has become a point of emphasis (which is a comment he has made in the past.) Per Newsday: “Just having a defensive coach for the first time in my career is going to help,’ Stoudemire said. ‘I’ve never been taught defense in my whole career. To now have a coach that actually teaches defense and teaches strategies and knows positioning and posture and how to guard different plays is going to be helpful. I’m going to take it as a challenge, accept the challenge and try to improve as a player.’ Stoudemire, a high school-to-NBA player, was selected in the first round in 2002 by Phoenix and had eight seasons with the Suns and D’Antoni as his head coach before coming to the Knicks. Woodson, who was the Knicks’ defensive assistant under D’Antoni last season before becoming head coach, has changed the way they guard the pick-and-roll this year. Stoudemire is a little behind in where he needs to be defensively and in the terminology, and was out of position several times Tuesday against the Trail Blazers. He was not the only Knick. Woodson harped on defense throughout Wednesday’s practice because the Knicks have had major slippage on that end of the court. They have allowed at least 100 points in eight of their last 12 games. They yielded 100 five times in the first 19. Woodson hinted at switching up the starting lineup Thursday night against San Antonio since the Knicks have opened games flat lately. But Stoudemire won’t be the new addition. Woodson isn’t divulging Stoudemire’s long-term role. For now, at least, Woodson says Stoudemire will come off the bench and play limited minutes. To his credit, Stoudemire continues to say this works for him, especially if the Knicks are winning. ‘Depending on how we’re playing, if we’re playing well, I have no problem coming off the bench,’ Stoudemire said.”

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  • AQWORD

    Nash & Stephon raised him.

  • shockexchange

    How’d you guess?

  • The Philosopher

    We have to explain to the subject(s) about the dishonesty of plagiarizing work. We are tasked to educate in a way to where they will understand, and acknowledge. Whether internally, or externally.
    But I ask you; After that exchange between you two, has the subject continued to plagiarize quotes, that you have seen? If not, then, the subject has internally, and externally took that knowledge from you, in a way. Without tricking them. They may not ever admit it. But since you exposed it, and taught them about it, they have ceased to do it, since. That is important.
    They have improved themselves in that manner.
    Now, if they continue plagiarize work, then, more education is necessary.

  • LakeShow

    …

  • bike

    Listen carefully to what The Philosopher preaches, my man. He will direct thy path, lead you through the valley of delusion, and set your soul on a bed of righteousness.

  • bike

    Amar’e is simply a mere shell of the former player prior to his knee surgery. He never was known to play defense anyway but his offensive play–before knee surgery- overshadowed his defensive limitations.

  • LakeShow

    The LakeShow has recognized this also.
    I’m BIG too where I come from. Don’t believe me? I don’t blame you lol.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i have seen him do it since, but not much. i won’t be taking credit for that though. i like to believe he’s got people in his real life that talk to him honestly that can take credit for him maturing. because that’s all this is a really a matter of. (again, i like to believe this, true or not)

  • whooo!

    Amare is now in his 10th season, and I question, is this what Blake Griffin looks like in 7years? Or is Blake anchoring championship teams like TD/KG did in their championship years?

  • The Philosopher

    Understood.

  • shockexchange

    There’s only two reasons someone would think the Shock Exchange is claiming “obvious” quotes from Shakespeare, Ric Flair or Oscar Wilde – either he’s delusional or he’s a troll.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    okay great i agree with you…I think it’s funny that D’Antoni get’s the reputation he has. That’s all.

  • The Philosopher

    Interesting point, I would admit.
    Although, I do not see nbk as a troll, or delusional.
    But the point that those quotes are obvious in their origin, I understand that.
    I almost pointed that out, but it would have been a very long comment on my part, so, I edited it.

  • Caboose

    Shock has decent things to say. Sometimes/rarely. But they contradict themselves. And other times, he has NO idea what he’s talking about. Here’s a perfect analogy of a Shock Exchange argument: Harry Potter is for dorks and nerds but I love Lord of the Rings because Peter Jackson went to college.

  • Caboose

    Id love to debate him but you tend to pounce on him first. Usually I let you go after people on your own. You know, since people think we’re the same person.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    ahh, and there is the fundamental difference between us.

  • shockexchange

    Not sure what there is to debate about. Someone came on here one day and swore he had data that says it’s better to “learn” the game in the L than in college. Amar’e just admitted that after a decade in the L, no one ever taught him how to play defense, which flies in the face of that “phantom data.” It seems your issue is with Amar’e, not the Shock Exchange.

  • Caboose

    Exactly. If you want my pithy contributions, sure. But usually I get apathetic.

  • shockexchange

    This guy constantly tries to catch fade with the Shock Exchange and when I dismiss him like my little nephew he resorts to getting emotional and throwing a hissy fit. That’s the only point.

  • The Philosopher

    Doesn’t that post have a tinge of… troll in it?
    Comments such as that one can produce a response filled with malice.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he has said that 3 times now. what don’t you get about a person just making up excuses? —- Jamal Crawford went to college, he said he’d never worked on his jumper before this summer.
    .
    See where you complete and utter ignorance lies? Or where you just pick out the ONE example you can think of to defend your idea that has no other back up data or reason to follow.
    .
    And the ONE example you do use, comes from a player who didn’t even attend his Junior year of High School and likely wouldn’t have been able to participate in Division 1 basketball.
    .
    There is no debate. You are trying to create one, because this is your only opportunity to do so.
    .
    Amar’e is making up excuses for things he has definitely been taught because he still lacks the ability to do such things. —- like you, who is currently in college and still don’t posses the ability to comment with reason.
    .
    there you go, now talk about catching fade or something else that proves you are nothing more than a talking head.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah, i just don’t care if people want my rambling or not. it’s a comment section, i don’t care how i’m perceived, i just like to express my opinion.

  • irondan21

    He will be the same old amare this time next year

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yes they are obvious, which is why saying, “the shock exchange has a saying for situations like this” is disingenuous. The shock exchange has no sayings for situations like this, Shakespeare, Ric Flair, Oscar Wilde, etc. do.

  • shockexchange

    Speaking in 3rd person LakeShow? How narcissistic.

  • shockexchange

    Still speaking with forked tongue nbk? One day you’re on here deifying the Shock Exchange as “extremely knowledgeable about basketball” and a “basketball historian.” Now you’re calling him a talking head, but deep down inside you know what it is.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    lol, where did i say this? i know i’ve said, i know you know the history of the game, or are familiar with it. but you aren’t a historian. not a reasonable one at least. but it’s clear you have been taught some history on the game. —- never did i say you were “extremely knowledgable about basketball” – or mean to say that if i somehow did – maybe it was someone trolling me over the summer?. —- either way, that doesn’t change that you are a talking head. Skip Bayless knows football, but he’s still a talking head. —– having knowledge, and having the ability/willingness to use that knowledge effectively, are different.

  • shockexchange

    Deny, deny, deny. And you wonder why the Shock Exchange treats you like his bratty lil nephew.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i wonder why you are such a nincompoop. i don’t give a f*ck how you treat anyone.
    .
    and i asked where i said these things, you can’t see that? talking about a forked tongue, why don’t you prove that yours is whole and start providing proof for the stupid sh*t you say. – i will very willingly admit to what i said, if i actually said it. —– but this probably is, much like you promising people free copies of your book, another time your inability to use the english language effectively comes back to haunt you.
    .
    basically, you are shooting 30+ shots a game at a 33% clip.

  • LakeShow

    No, it was a joke mocking you, because we all know only dersh bags speak of themselves from the 3rd person.

  • LakeShow

    Dude, people think me and nbk are the same person sometimes. . .
    People are stupid.

  • The Philosopher

    Maybe shockexchange has quotes that he has… “adopted”.
    That would be more proper, to some, as far as general etiquette is concerned.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he could even say he “knows of a quote for situations like this” i don’t care. the one thing i have an issue with is him taking credit. saying your own name, and then saying something is yours is taking credit. Even when it obviously isn’t. Saying “it’s obvious” as the excuse is a way for a person to avoid accountability.
    .
    sorry Phil, you know how i get, i got to say my POV.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    hes tryna make up lies to get off the bench

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    lol at the barista reference

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    hes def lying

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    that is a horrible strategy if you play for Mike Woodson. Who taught you his defense last year. Like Amar’e is blatantly lying it’s not like Mike Woodson would believe that sh*t. Look at the comments from D’Antoni today.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    do you have the link?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk
  • The Philosopher

    Oh, no. No need to be sorry, good brother.
    I respect your point of view.
    Me, myself, I always tell the origin of a quote that I procure onto this site.
    But that’s just me.
    Neither here, nor there.
    But also, I have nothing against plagiarist tendencies. If I catch it, I’ll find it funny, for the most part.

  • The Philosopher

    Once, someone posted an entire thesis up here. I thought it was thought provoking, and insightful… until Bryan Crawford humiliated them by calling them out, and telling everyone who actually was the original author of the piece.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    man i wish i was here for that day.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    ahh yes, well you were the first exposure i had to being put in my place by a famous quote.
    .i see the humor in it in certain situations but not constantly from a person who spouts off ad nauseam a whole lotta nonsense

  • The Philosopher

    It was a piece by Khalid Salaam. I think.
    It was hilarious, the outcome of that.
    And since then, I have called that person a plagiarist, too, among other things…
    Because, of that thread, alone.

  • The Philosopher

    I exposed YOU to being put in your place?? When was this? I usually remember things like that.
    My memory is shot. smh.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    haha, years ago fam, when i was reckless. i wish i remember the exact quote, something along the lines of this one, ““In youth we learn; in age we understand.” or something like that.

  • The Philosopher

    Ha! Nice…

  • shockexchange

    It’s pretty obvious that the Shock Exchange’s reference to famous quotes from Shakespeare, Ric Flair, et. al. is meant to be “tongue-in-cheek.” And it’s pretty obvious why of all the people on this site, only one person feigns to have a problem with it.

  • The Philosopher

    Are you sure about that?
    Sometimes, people hold their distaste towards certain things. Sometimes, they say nothing. Hiding what one may actually feel. Sometimes, we let ourselves dig a hole. Not saying that this is the case, but, to make that assumption can leave one vulnerable to intellectual dishonesty.
    Then, when 35 people express their said distaste AFTER the fact concerning a subject, now, one has to do some extra explaining. Either that, or, they must concede to their inadequacy (ies).
    Only if they care, mind you.

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