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Friday, January 18th, 2013 at 11:15 am  |  185 responses

Kobe Bryant Wants Teammates to Get Him Better Looks


Following two straight games of stellar defense on Kyrie Irving and Brandon Jennings, Kobe Bryant struggled last night against Dwyane Wade on both ends of the floor. Following the loss to the Miami Heat, Bryant said he needs his teammates to step up offensively and help free him up. Per ESPN: “Not only did Bryant’s man on defense, Dwyane Wade, score 27 points on 11-for-20 shooting, but Bryant’s offense also struggled, as he scored just 22 points on 8-for-25 shooting (32 percent). Bryant, who leads the league in scoring at 29.7 points per game, said that alleviating some pressure on him on offense will in turn allow him to apply more pressure on defense. ‘If (guarding the opposing team’s offensive threat) is going to be something that I’m going to have to do for a while, I’m going to need my teammates’ help to free up offensively,’ Bryant said. ‘Like we did in the fourth quarter — create some picks for me, create some easy shots. That’s going to be tough for me to guard the top guy and come down the other end and have to go one-on-one every play. So, I’m going to need some help.’ He brought up the issue several times during his postgame remarks to the media. ‘I need some help offensively to save energy and not have to isolate and do things like that,’ Bryant said. ‘I’m going to need some picks. I’m going to need to catch-and-shoot like I did in the fourth quarter a little bit to make my job a little easier. I think the first three quarters of me just standing around the perimeter, the defense is praying for that. We have to do some things to free me up and get me in open spaces, this way I can be more active on the defensive end of the floor.’ Bryant started the game with just nine points on 3-for-16 shooting through the first three quarters before getting things going in the fourth, putting up 13 points on 5-for-9 shooting in the final frame thanks in part to getting open looks from the 3-point line off a screen set by Pau Gasol as well as a handoff assist from Gasol. ‘We talked about it going into the fourth quarter. I said, ‘Coach D man, goddamn. Come on, man. Come on, man. I can’t be standing out here like this all night long now,’ Bryant said, recalling a conversation with Lakers coach Mike D’Antoni. ‘We did a much better job of that. My teammates know. We got to pick each other up. I’m going to go out there and do what I got to do defensively, and then on the offensive end of the floor we’ll pick each other up.’ Point guard Steve Nash, the man responsible for orchestrating the show on offense, agreed that the Lakers can make it easier on his fellow 17-year veteran teammate. [...] Howard suggested that the contributions of Wade, whom Bryant was assigned to keep in check, had a bigger impact on the outcome than LeBron James’ 39 points on 17-for-25 shooting on offense.”

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  • http://www.facebook.com/devin.williams1 Devin Williams

    Or maybe if LA pounded the Heat inside he wouldn’t have to work so damn hard. #SelfishBastard

  • ibangyourgirl

    I love how Kobe and Dwight sneakily gave Wade more credit than Lebron. Guess they were salty about Bron abusing them last night. Kobe knows damn well Wade isn’t the top scorer for his team, and Dwight is just mad that Bron feasted in the paint.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    How do you figure? He said Lebron was phenomenal and he does these kinds of performances consistently, and also called him an all-timer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/HolyBaller Dillan Leu

    Maybe if Dwight got more than 6 shots per game, you’d be open more. Lol.

  • Comment_System

    Shut up Kobe.

  • JCH

    Haha yup what a bunch of losers LeBron is just gonna keep laughing and balling all the way to a repeat. He can do whatever he wants on the court.

    Who else saw him smirking as he dribbled into the clinching pull-up lol

  • Jay Cutler

    Wait.. I thought he proclaimed himself the best 1 on 1 player who has ever lived?

  • Fat Lever

    Mobb Deep said it best. Temperature Rising….

  • speedy

    No talk about teammates getting involved or changing the system, coaching, so that the ball is shared more.
    Just Kobe talking about how to score more, more, more. Catching that all-time-scoring title from K-A-J seems to be the only thing important to him.
    It would be more important to finally get some balanced attack established if the Lakers really want to do some damage to bigger teams this year.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Yes…except there are 4 other players on the court so its hard to play one on one – especially when the opponent is double teaming you.

  • Max

    They probably want the same from him.

  • Caboose

    Never Kobe’s fault, is it?

  • Caboose

    Too bad Kobe doesn’t understand that.

  • Jay Cutler

    In other words what you’re trying to say is that being the self described best one on one player in history actually doesn’t mean anything in the NBA (except when it becomes convenient)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Choose to shoot better shots. When you stop the ball as soon as you catch it, ofcourse it’s going to feel like you are playing one on one too much. If you aren’t open or you don’t have a scoring lane when you first catch the ball, PASS IT, MOVE, and then get it back, IN BETTER POSITION.
    .
    Stop setting your inside foot 22+ feet from the basket and shooting contested fadeaways.
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    Stop catching the ball and standing still while you jabstep 6 times.
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    Stop trying to catch the ball in isolation on every play. It’s hard to set a pick for a guy who is trying to post up at the pinch as soon as the play starts.
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    Other then that, do what you do Kobe, nothing is ever on you.

  • speedy

    Really???? Seven shot attempts for Dwight?
    I can’t watch any NBA games this year, but shouldn’t they go Stockalone with Nash/Dwight or Kobe/Dwight. There need to be some easy baskets.

  • shutup

    I said it at least ten times; why would Dwight get more shots, when Bynum and or Pau were/are bigger offensive threats and always struggled to find shots while playing with Kobe

  • bobo

    So inflamitory. And then these idiots only read the headline and sound off. Not a kobe fanatic or lebron hater or anything else. I’m just sick of this site being too much like tmz and not a serious sports/news site, all about big impact misleading headlines….and the sheep fall into the trap evertime.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    “Oh, incredible performance; he does that consistently, though,” said Kobe Bryant, one of the rare players like James who can assemble so many sublime performances that they’re easy to dismiss as routine.

    “He’s just a phenomenal player. He’s one of the best we’ve ever seen.”

    …………………

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    lol, they like to reach alot. Dont pay em mind

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    he was talking specifically one on one games, in practice and stuff though. He was talking about playing guys like Van Exel, Eddie Jones 1 on 1. He was asked specifically how a game with Jordan wud go down hypothetically, he was asked specifically about 1 on 1, its not like he chose to ignore the NBA game and go on about how great of a 1 on 1 player he is…

  • http://www.facebook.com/evan.boland Evan Boland

    If you watched the game you would see that it isn’t Kobe’s fault Dwight doesn’t get shots. That said, I wonder if Kobe actually thinks he could still take LeBron 1 on 1. Lakers blew that one. Kobe shot badly, Dwight wasn’t very involved and we had 16 first half T/O’s and were still in it.

  • The Philosopher

    Kobe Bryant has an all – time point guard, who can clearly still play.
    Which means, said point guard can get him the ball.
    Kobe has to move WITHOUT THE BALL.
    Something that he has never done on an all – time level.
    Jordan never had that problem. Even without a point guard.
    Neither has… THE KING.

  • Max

    Poor little bobo.

  • ibangyourgirl

    And that disproves my point how? I never said Kobe never said anything complimentary. I said he sneakily gave Wade more credit as his team’s best scorer. What did anything you post have to do with that? Oh wait, NOTHING…….

  • Max

    Damn, you’re good with your dramatic pauses.

  • ibangyourgirl

    You don’t have to reach when you can quote a guy. Stop stanning and start comprehending what it is you are actually arguing. It helps.

  • RayJr

    The system is crap and D’Antoni isn’t doing anything to fix it. No ball movement, too much dribbling, Gasol standing at the 3 point line instead of in or around the post, etc etc ETC…
    LA is playing against themselves turning over the ball so much and they are not using eachother to get open shots. Miami should’ve beaten them by 30 but Lakers 3 point shooting kept them in the game.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    where is the logic that Bynum is a bigger offensive threat than Dwight? I don’t understand how having more moves automatically makes you a better offensive option. Dwight has scored more, more efficiently every single year.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    False

    .

    Their offense is elite, 7th best offense in the NBA.

  • shockexchange

    This sentiment is 1 of 5 Reasons why Rent-A-Center Howard won’t re-sign with L.A. http://clicky.me/rentacenter

  • Comment_System

    seeing as how youre the only one claiming this, you need some comprehension skills yourself, champ.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Unless the NBA game changes so drastically that it goes from 5-on-5 to 1-on-1 and each player represents a team, his comments are completely irrelevant to this discussion.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Not sure if you watch Laker games (lately), but the team’s game plan is to get Dwight going early. Kobe has been doing his part in making sure that happens.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    What’s so selfish about what he’s saying? He wants the team to set picks on offense (obviously not every possession), because he wants to expend his energy on the defensive end instead of going 1 on 1 and isolating and having to beat his man. I’d say that’s the opposite of being selfish since he specifically points out that he wants to stay more active on the defensive side of the ball.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    I agree. He forced up a ton of bad shots in the first half, including fadeaways over Wade while being closely guarded, etc. As a catch-and-shoot player, Kobe is damn near unguardable. I think he is starting to realize that himself (especially due to his recent defensive focus), so I look forward to seeing D’Antoni making that a priority and allowing Nash to dictate when he gets the ball in those situations.

    Unfortunately, Kobe still has that problem where if he doesn’t score for more than 2 minutes, he HAS to get his points so he will go back to ISO mode regardless.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    He wasn’t talking about the NBA game, I think it was more about the concept of an actual secluded 1 v 1 game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Even Nash was pretty bad with the turnovers, surprisingly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Brill86 Andrew Woods

    LeBron is better right now then Kobe ever was.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    I think you’re looking too much into this..he paid them both compliments. If anything, he dissed Bosh by saying that the Heat have “two great players” lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    He’s blamed himself multiple times this year. A couple of times for his turnovers, recently for his (and Dwight’s) responsibilities as leaders to step up in any way possible and be accountable for their errors. Just because SLAM covers the controversial aspects of his personality doesn’t mean there isn’t a side to him that takes blame for his mistakes.

  • pposse

    cmon now 7th best is not elite status! They are in the %23 percentile. In college they would be getting a B grade but not an A.

  • ibangyourgirl

    Awww, you’re one of those kids who needs others to agree with you in order to feel confident about your opinions. It’s okay, when you become a big boy you’ll grow out of it…..”‘If (guarding the opposing team’s offensive threat) is going to be something that I’m going to have to do for a while, I’m going to need my teammates’ help to free up offensively,’ Bryant said. ‘Like we did in the fourth quarter —”….

  • ibangyourgirl

    True, he did blatantly diss Bosh. He complimented Lebron, but he still gave Wade credit for something Lebron does better. Kobe won’t blatantly diss Bron, but he will in a subtle way.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Brill86 Andrew Woods

    …and this is why tim duncan at the end of the day has had a better career than Kobe.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    considering that they have played less than 10 games as a full roster, 7th is elite bruh.

  • bike

    Dwight told Kobe that he would be happy to set a few more picks and screens for him if, in return, Kobe would stop letting his man blow by him so Dwight doesn’t have to pick the guy up every time.

  • pposse

    i say above average you say elite..what superlative would you use to describe the best offense in the league??

  • Caboose

    No sh!t.

  • Caboose

    Because Al Jefferson is a better offensive threat than Dwight too. Right???

  • Caboose

    Amongst many, many other reasons.

  • Caboose

    Best.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    don’t get me started on Al Jefferson.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Best?

  • http://www.facebook.com/evan.boland Evan Boland

    People seem to often mistake the player with the most skill as the best player. I think that’s why people still cite Kobe as better than LeBron, or better than MJ. He may be the most skilled player to ever lace ‘em up. He just isn’t the best.

  • Caboose

    Oh I know your thoughts on him. It’s funny.

  • LakeShow

    They played 1 on 1 last night?

    Your the ultimate straw man of SLAM.

  • RayJr

    Not very efficient though and it was painfully obvious last night. Very hard to watch as a Lakers fan.

  • RayJr

    Yeah they are still getting to know eachother. Would you say they are ending their “preseason” at this point in the season?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    pretty much

  • LakeShow

    If you actually WATCH the games, you realized that Miami set’s picks on nearly every single play. They are constantly moving and setting multiple screens.
    The Lakers aren’t doing that, and they need to be.
    Nash should be getting a pick from Pau or Dwight, or Kobe nearly every play.
    Kobe should be given a pick nearly every time he gets the ball just like Wade and Bron do. It’s so much easier to play ball when your moving, cutting, screening and then repeating.
    D’Antoni know’s this, so i’m not sure why it’s not being implemented.
    The offense looks fine, but it should look great.
    Defensively, still a work in progress, but looking better every game.

  • Brownjesus

    You must have not watched the game. They go to Dwight early ever play and he either gets fouled or has to pass out. The field goal attempts are misleading.

    In my opinion Dwights lack of post moves and soft touch are hurting his offense more than lack of touches

  • theDankerNuggets

    I really respect Kobe for the most part. but sometimes I can’t help but think about how much of a self absorbed douche he must seem like to his teammates

  • RayJr

    Even if Kobe has 5 rings compared to Duncan’s 4? I don’t think so.

  • Allenp

    Why is it never Kobe’s fault that his big men don’t eat? Wasn’t his fault with SHAQ, or Pau or Bynum and now Dwight. Come one guys.

  • RayJr

    That’s exactly what every sports/news site does not just SlamOnline.

  • The Philosopher

    Appreciate it. lol.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    That’s debateable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    According to popular opinion, it is always Kobe’s fault though.

    However, the reality has been that Kobe has tried to get Dwight going early in games. As someone else mentioned, Dwight gets fed the ball a lot, but he either gets fouled, or has to pass out due to the defense. There were numerous sequences in the first quarter alone when teammates tried to get Dwight the ball and he either got fouled or the pass led to a turnover. The FGAs are misleading – they run it through Dwight quite a bit, especially early in the game.

  • Lorne

    Shaq was the man for 3 of those 5 rings. Duncan was the man for 4 of his 4 rings. I’m going to yes, despite the total ring count. Duncan’s finals MVPs outnumber Kobe’s.

  • Bored

    Kobe is more skilled than MJ and LBJ?

  • bill

    And Pau was the man for his 5th ring.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    He’s always been a more complete player overall (especially because he looks to make the best basketball play instead of the best individual play), but keep in mind Kobe at one point was a 30 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 5.9 apg, 2.2 spg player. He was a great two way player during this time.

  • RayJr

    I see your point but Parker won the Finals MVP in 2007 so Duncan wasn’t the man for all 4 of those rings. So if your basing player rankings upon finals MVPs then Parker, Lebron, and Nowitzki are all equal right?

  • shutup

    I meant as a dump into the post type player, not saying Dwight shouldn’t be getting more shots, just that Bynum has more tools with the ball in his hands, and so does Pau, so if Kobe wouldn’t concede to players with more offensive moves than Dwight why would he give up shots to let Dwight shoot? To answer your question; Having more moves doesn’t automatically make you a better offensive player, but it is a major component, Dwight imo scores more off of rebounds oops and players setting him up, Pau and Bynum can create shots for themselves better. Stat comparison Dwight and Howard have very similar career avgs (when they take the same number of shots)in almost every major category.

  • shutup

    No, but if given the ball in the post Al Jefferson is a better offensive threat. It’s all about context. Unless you believe Dwight is a better post player then Jefferson, then we will have to agree to disagree.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/savagemuzicgroup T-Ray

    Ok I’ve been reading all your opinions and this is what I’ve gathered from the article as well as viewing all Laker games this season. Kobe isn’t getting better looks because he isn’t moving efficiently without the ball. Too many times this season especially last night I saw Kobe trying to iso Wade giving many jab steps and finally making a move. It’s not always Kobe’s fault however. You have 2 7 footers. Run pin down and base line screens for Kobe and I promise he will get at least 5 easy looks per game. This has everything to do with the team as a whole. No one is getting easily looks and a lot of times they are contested rushed shots.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/savagemuzicgroup T-Ray

    I wouldn’t have written such a paragraph if I would’ve scrolled down -__-

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    If Kobe was as good a playmaker as most of his fans think, he would find a way to consistently get those bigs of his great looks on offense.

  • LakeShow

    Naw, man you brought some good points up also.

  • The Philosopher

    Kobe has never been efficient at moving without the ball. If he moves without the ball, and does not receive it afterward, he gets p!ssed, and ceases to move without the ball, again.
    This has been a tendency of his, for a long time.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/savagemuzicgroup T-Ray

    Thanks man. It’s just mine boggling that they don’t screen to death. With a playmaker like Nash, one big man who is probably the best pick and roll guy, a good pick and pop big man, and the Black Mamba himself this team should be getting the easiets looks imaginable.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/savagemuzicgroup T-Ray

    Agreed. But like I said it’s his fault just as it’s the whole team’s fault. Kobe’s mentality keeps him from continuing a new strategy if it doesn’t work the first few times. But like you said it’s been happening for a long time so I doubt it’ll change.

  • LakeShow

    Same could be said for Steve Nash…

  • LakeShow

    This is a fact.

  • LakeShow

    I hurts the noggin don’t it? lol…

  • LakeShow

    Did you watch the game?
    Let me answer that for you: No.

  • LakeShow

    Why can’t you just hate Kobe man!!!??

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/savagemuzicgroup T-Ray

    I just sit in front of the tv like “the f*ck?”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    What does Nash have to do with any of this? I’m talking strictly about Kobe. The man has to do a better job of creating good looks for his teammates (especially the bigs), in part making it easier for him to score.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Haha. A lot of opinions on Kobe are formulated based on select games or the “unsexy” stories. Kobe has terrible aspects to his personality and game, but the “good” side of either do not generate the amount of traffic and discussions that his “bad sides” do so they are rarely, if ever, discussed on sports blogs and sites like SLAM.

    This is why I make it a point to address some of the inconsistencies and generic blanket statements that people like to throw out when it comes to Kobe (“why doesn’t Dwight just get the ball and score 50!?!?!!”)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i believe, the whole, LeBron’s effect on his whole team is the thing that separates him from Kobe to a lot of people.

  • The Philosopher

    I think you’re right.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    just because Parker won finals MVP doesn’t mean he was the man. especially in a blowout series where really, there was no “MVP’ – it was Gregg Popovich vs Mike Brown.
    .
    LeBron James without a Jumpshot, vs a Team with 3 championships in the last 8 years.
    .
    The finals MVP was just a formality that they threw at Parker because he was allowed to torch Daniel Gibson for 4 games.

  • Dagger

    Wait, so he’s the ultimate artificial argument of SLAM?

  • LakeShow

    Uhh… Steve Nash the PG… You know the guy on the team that handles the ball and does the play making. He may have something to do with ball distribution to the bigs right?…

    You didn’t watch last nights game that much is obvious already.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    And I agree with that. They have different identities. I know personally I would hate playing with a guy like Kobe when his team is not winning games.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Did you watch the other games of the series or just game 7?

  • LakeShow

    Correct.
    Or is that too confusing for you?
    A person is not actually a “straw man”.
    An argument presented by one, is what that euphemism is used for.

    Now to call one a straw man would be indicative, that they are the type that provides the euphemism practically, from which the name derives from.

    Can you follow that?

    I can break it down better for you to understand if you like.

  • LakeShow

    lol.
    Your doing God’s work man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Why are these types of particular excuses OK to make for Duncan, but not for Kobe?

  • RayJr

    Well according to Lorne thats the definition of being the man.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    no, according to Lorne, Shaq was the best player on 3 of 5 of Kobe’s title teams. Which is 100% true.
    .
    and Duncan was the best player on all 4 of his. Which is 100% true.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    who used those excuses for Kobe? — Shaq was clearly a better player than Kobe. Not even close between them.
    .
    Kobe gets credit as the man on both the other title teams. Even if Pau was the better player in the 2010 finals (he was), Kobe was still “the man” on that team.

  • RayJr

    Then Duncan would’ve been finals MVP on all 4 of em so that’s 75% true.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    what don’t you get about finals MVP not making you the best player on your team?
    .
    Yes, Parker was the finals MVP, but he was NOT the best player on the team.
    .
    Willis Reed got finals MVP in ’73. —- Walt Frazier was so obviously the best player on that team, him not getting the award was a joke. — everyone who actually knows about the team knows Walt Frazier was the man.
    .
    It’s the same thing.

  • RayJr

    Exactly. Because Shaq won 3 of those finals MVPs that doesn’t make Kobe just a contributing role player. Kobe was just as dominate against guards as Shaq was against anyone guarding him in all of those Championships. It was either Shaq was dominating from down low or Kobe was killing any guard trying to play D. Shaq got those MVPs because his numbers were incredible but Kobe was just as much an MVP for those Lakers teams.

  • http://twitter.com/apowellAdvocate Allen Powell II

    some people don’t want to hear certain things

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    gah, it makes me so mad. you see Lake in the Post:Up saying Durant is clearly a better offensive player than LeBron? it’s got me all types of annoyed and frustrated.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    That goes for Magic Johnson in 1980 as well. He had the best Game 6 (while KAJ was injured), but KAJ was the reason they were 1 game away from winning the series.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    I haven’t seen the post, but I’m curious, why is that such an outlandish claim to you?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Why is it outlandish to say Duramt is clearly a better overall offensive player than LeBron? .
    Well, there more to offense then shooting free throws better. Mainly

  • Dagger

    Calling someone a straw man in no way suggests that they frequently use straw man (aka misrepresented) arguments. It suggests that you don’t know how to use the term. Which is cool, but since you use the term “straw man” so often I figured I’d point that out. No big deal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    Kobe’s usage rate (32.6), Nash’s usage rate (15.2), so based on those numbers the ball is in Kobe’s hands twice as much as in Nash’s hands. So what’s your excuse for that? Kobe in fact is the de-facto Laker’s PG due to ball being in his possession so much. You kobe fans can not have it both ways. Whenever someone compares Kobe’s and Lebron’s playmaking, y’all are quick to point out that there isn’t much of a gap between both cats with regards to playmaking but as soon as someone criticizes Kobe’s lack of playmaking, y’all are quick to make the “oh, he’s a SG not a PG” excuse. The man had a usage rate of 34.2% last night yet all he could muster up was 1 assist against a team that lacked a true big to combat the Laker’s size advantage.

  • Lorne

    This.

  • bleu

    I was thinking the same thing, but arguing with him can be like arguing with a brick wall so I kept it moving.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000166716900 Anthony Darnello Taylor Jr.

    Yeah i feel like Kobe aims to “inspire” his teammates via. Media,huddle, and locker room rants, or by his on court heroics. Lebron however inspires his team by just getting them in the game . Making every player feel like they matter to some degree in the games outcome

  • sbc

    You have to actually get the ball inside before your teammates can help you get easy looks. That didn’t happen much in the 4th last night.

  • LakeShow

    Are their minutes the same?

  • LakeShow

    BTW…. You didn’t watch the game so I don’t want to hear, “KB could only muster up 1 assist BS.”

    You gotta watch games to know what happens man.

  • speedy

    Like I said….I can’t watch any NBA games this year.
    Still pick and roll every time… they got the material and need to work that out.
    Kenyon Martin comes to my mind when I think about an athletic but offensively less skilled player that scored through pick and roll .

  • LakeShow

    Haha, then how did you know what I was talking about?

    You knew that me referring to him as the ultimate strawman meant “so he’s the ultimate “artificial argument” of SLAM”, but you couldn’t muster up enough more brain usage to figure out the implication of him being the ultimate straw man, would mean he is the ultimate person who makes straw man arguments??

    That’s on you boyo.

    I have seen you post, and you seem intelligent, so i’m surprised you couldn’t figure out the implications here.

    Why don’t you pull up another time I used the term incorrectly?

    You can’t because I never have.

    Seeing as how I figured you would have seen me use the phrase before, always correctly, I figured you would be able to add 1 + 1 to find the equal being 2.

    Try and use some deductive reasoning next time.
    It will bode well for you.

  • LakeShow

    Oh yeah?
    Brick Wall’s happen to make great arguing objects as a matter of fact!

    I just so happen to argue with brick walls all the time and……… lol….
    Just playing, agreed, i’m a mule sometimes…

  • shutup

    AMEN!!!!!!!

  • Kato Williams

    I agree.

    Durant is a pure shooter. He is one of the most efficient scorers the L has seen for a long time. He has insane length and range.

    LeBron is unstoppable when he penetrates but lets face it, his perimeter shooting isn’t stellar.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    Come on now. You know better than to use the “you didn’t watch the game” line on me. How in the world am I going to miss a Kobe vs LeBron/Heat vs LA matchup?

  • LakeShow

    I can tell you didn’t. You would realize (unless your biased as F*ck) that KB was trying attempt after attempt to get the ball inside.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    There is a difference between” attempting to get the ball inside” and creating good looks for your teammates, huge difference.

  • Yesse

    I think Kobe should get better looks for his teammates.

  • The Seed

    Lets be honest, Steve Nash is a bad fit for the Lakers. Last night on the break, stop alot of Kobe looks and you could see Kobe getting frustrated with Nash not getting him the ball on the wing. Kobe does need the ball better in his spots. Nash is not getting the Lakers the shots they need.

  • Caboose

    And marry Eva.

  • Caboose

    Every stat disagrees with you saying his perimeter shooting isn’t stellar.

  • Desam

    just before I saw the receipt for $6467, I have faith that…my… cousin had been really bringing in money parttime on their laptop.. there neighbour had bean doing this for only about nine months and a short time ago took care of the morgage on there cottage and bought themselves a Subaru Impreza. we looked here, Big44.comONLY

  • http://twitter.com/Sol_Jung Sol Jung

    I am not sure if you watched the game but with the way miami was putting D on DH12 was RIDICULOUS to a point where all the TNT crew were convinced they’ll repeat playing D like this. There was just no way DH12 was getting enough touches down low last night. Kudos to heat’s D more so than calling Black Mamba a #SelfishBastard

  • w

    duncan wasn’t the best player 4 times

    parker was the best in 2007…if u don’t like it too bad but its true

    kobe was the best for 2 and duncan was the best for 3

  • Bored

    except that time in game 7 against the suns…

  • Bored

    *Kobe slurper*

  • shucksta

    Often his teammates give him the ball on tough situations with the shot-clock running down. He was forced to take some bad shots because of that. But I agree too, his shot selections were pretty bad and for some reason he kept jump-passing instead of taking the wide open J. I think that made him lose his rhythm

  • Bored

    no. Pau, Bynum and Odom together were the reason they won. but Kobe was better than each of them individually.

  • LukeSkyWalkerTexasRanger

    You called nbk a straw man today in the post up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    not at all lol. I rarely defend the dude, but i think some of the flack he’s catching right now is nonsense. He was asked specifically about 1 on 1, he didnt bring it up outta the blue.

  • Bored

    i was kidding. you said the same to me and it was just as relevant.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Kobe put those numbers up one year. That is it.

  • RedRum

    Coach Pringles and Samba… I have your solution. Here it is. You take Gasol. Post him up. Pass him the ball. He scores. And repeat…

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    oh i know where u were heading with it, lol

  • Jay

    Kobe is theMost selfish player in nba history. Stop hogging ball kobe, pass the ball so ur team can win…all he care about his stats..

  • Jay

    Kobe should retire, he will always go down as Most overated selfish ball Hogg in nba history, if u don’t belive me then google nd see… Not even top 20 nba greatest… How can u not win the team lakers have now, if kobe is benched
    They will win.. I hate selfish ppl

  • http://www.facebook.com/Brill86 Andrew Woods

    kobe will never be and has never been as dominate against guards as shaq has been against centers

  • Bored

    he is definitely getting some unwarranted criticism this season.

  • http://www.facebook.com/DanielUpYours Daniel Powers

    my momma also wants to get better looks

  • Bored

    lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/evan.boland Evan Boland

    Far more than Lebron. And yes, he has more skills than MJ. For one, his left is far superior. He has a wider variety of skills. He has longer range. He can do the hook shot. He can do the runner or floater. He can do a lot MJ couldn’t.

  • AQWORD

    on the head

  • AQWORD

    he should be catchin flack. after all these years he still cant inspire his teammates

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    okay…but that has nothing to do with this article is all im trying to say. His comments about being great 1 on 1 wasnt such a big deal since it was a specific question asked to him

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    I try to tell it how i see it, if he deserves criticism i’ll be the first to give it to him(as u shud know lol). If he doesnt deserve it, then if noone else does, then i’ll defend the dude

  • Macky

    LMFAO The leader who is supposed to make his teammates better (ala getting them better looks) is asking them to get him better looks. What a horrible leader. And yes there are ways in basketball to get your bigs the ball better. You just have to be patient by posting/reposting. But obviously when Kobe has the ball, there’s only one thing that’s going to happen, he’s going to shoot up a brick and miss.

  • Macky

    I don’t remember Kobe getting doubled team at all this season. And if he’s double teamed, that should be 2 points for their team automatically. He’s not getting doubled, Teams know that in order to beat the Lakers, play Kobe 1 on 1 and let him shoot the Lakers out of games.

  • Macky

    Well then, you probably agree that he’s the main reason why the Lakers are 17-23 then. Especially since we give Kobe ALL THE CREDIT when the Lakers win so we have to give him all the blame when they lose too. Look how many off shooting nights he’s had thus far. Look at how bad he is defensively even though the refs allow him to play hack-a-defense. Look how bad he is as an off the ball defender.

  • Macky

    Why is this even an argument? Even if Duncan was only the best player for 3 of those, he still has more Finals MVPs than Kobe and he has more regular season MVPs. He’s clearly done more in his career. And most people with a brain have him higher than Kobe on an all time great list. Duncan makes the top 10. Kobe is top 15 and mainly because of his longevity and body of work.

  • Macky

    Not as bad as Kobe. The only thing Kobe leads the Lakers in is Points, Shots taken, Shots missed and turnovers. Yet people still figure out ways to blame Howard, Gasol and Nash for why they lose games and not Kobe. Never the refs though because its those clowns that keep LA in these games. Without the refs help, Lakers would lose every game by 30+.

  • Macky

    Just because you can do something at 25% shooting doesn’t mean it’s a skill. Kobe is not even close to being as skilled as Lebron let alone MJ who just trumps the hell out of both of them. There are many skills you can have in Basketball, and offensive moves aren’t the only things….even though MJ still trumps them in offensive moves.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    definitely. The team needs to run a Steve Nash centric offence, not a Kobe centric offence anymore. But his comments about 1 on 1 games had nothing to do with the team game, so i dont get the idiot comments about how “if only he knew it was a 5 on 5 game” he wasnt asked about an official game…he was asked about 1 on 1…

  • JL

    how about if he takes less bad shots. The whole team plays lethargic when they stand around watching him “go to work”. This is on the management and coach allowing him to be the prima donna that he is. What do they care more about? Winning or pleasing their superstar? Everyone has bad games, but when you come up with comments like teammates need to help him get easier looks when he shoots 8-25, and 10 for 32 today, it’s time to look in the mirror first. Sure he needs easier looks, but it’s gotta go both ways. If he’s not creating for his teammates enough, why would they put as much effort into picks and rebounds. Get your head out of your a$$ kobe.

  • Bored

    pffft…

  • Bored

    we may not have agreed on that other thread but im definitely with you on this one. people jumpin to all sorts of conclusions. as soon as they see Kobe headline, they gotta say the same old sh*t that doesnt relate at all. i even got 3 likes for the Kobe slurper comment and it was in response to your perfectly logical analysis of his 1 on 1 comment. lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    that’s stupid. if you think Kobe was as important to those teams as Shaq your point of view is stupid. sorry to be so honest.

  • RayJr

    Yeah because Shaq didn’t need Kobe and could’ve won all by himself right?…your point of view is stupid to me…now let’s move on

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    no Shaq couldn’t have won it all by himself. But that doesn’t make Kobe just as important. Without Shaq, a championship never would have been part of the conversation. Without Kobe? It still would have been a very real possibility. Get the difference?

  • LakeShow

    No I didn’t, nice try, good effort.

  • LakeShow

    Well, yeah, and then 35ppg on season, and every season above 5 assists and rebounds which is above average for a shooting guard.
    But hey, I remember you, your the props giver…

  • http://www.facebook.com/evan.boland Evan Boland

    You’re wrong. It’s that simple.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    dw, i just voted down that slurper comment, for a bit of balance, haha

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    I give Kobe adequate credit. I also criticize him. He averaged LeBron numbers once not multiple times. That is just a fact.

  • LakeShow

    LeBron has only averaged that many steals once also, how about acknowledging that.

    But what is so special about numbers anyway? What does it mean that LeBron averages more rebounds, assists, and blocks than KB? Does that make him a better player?

    LeBron plays point PF on a team that struggles to rebound, in which he is asked to do…. Do you realize what that means? Allot of assists and rebounds will show up on the stat sheet.

    Kobe plays SG. He played the majority of his career within the triangle offense. You know, the one where no one averages very many assists?
    He played next to great big men, so no need for big rebounding numbers. Which we know he is capable of. (At least I do)
    SG’s don’t average as many rebounds and assists as guys that play Point PF….

    That’s called understanding the game, differentiating numbers from production, and giving credit.

    I know you can do these things, I just don’t know why you choose not to when it comes to KB.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000166716900 Anthony Darnello Taylor Jr.

    Thank you sir

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    LeBron is a better player than Kobe and has been for at least three years. The fact that this is debatable in your mind is shocking.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Kobe’s best rebounding seasons came with SHAQ. You just make stuff up bro. Just pull the numbers. Kobe doesn’t rebound and assist like LeBron because he can’t. He is on a different level as a scorer but not as a complete player. Those are just facts. Trapped on a team lacking in talent LeBron put up crazy all around numbers and Kobe put up great scoring numbers. Just facts.

  • LakeShow

    Rebounding wise? Pau/Bynum/Pau/Howard>>>Shaq and whoever else.

    Lebron has been a better play maker every year of his career than KB….
    Don’t know why you think he only has been since he joined the Heat…

    My point is what is so special about averaging LeBron numbers?
    Oscar averaged better numbers than LeBron or Magic but each are better basketball players(imo).

    Numbers just don’t mean as much as you think they do.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Honestly you have no idea whether Oscar was better or worse. You never saw him hoop and neither did I. But at least Magic, Oscar and LeBron had comparable numbers overall. Kobe doesn’t. It shows where his game is.

  • LakeShow

    They all played PG majority of the time and were much larger men (or in Oscar’s respect, played in a different era where rebounding came allot easier due to pace)

    That equates to: more assists more rebounds…

    These are the facts you fail to think about.

    Why didn’t Iverson rebound like Kobe??

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    He averaged 1.3 more rebounds despite being six inches taller. Also Oscar was a combo guard in an era when assists were much harder to come by and he averaged 30 for multiple seasons. Your argument is bad boss. Kobe is a scorer. That is what does and what he has always done. Oscar, Magic and Bron are more complete players.

  • LakeShow

    I never said they weren’t.

    I agree they are more complete.

    One rebuttal, I do not believe your claim that assists were harder to come by in Oscars era.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Then you don’t know basketball history. Assists were only awarded if a player immediately shot and scored. No dribbles, no moved, nothing. The pace was faster but the bar was higher

  • LakeShow

    Naw, pace made it about the same as today when both are taken into account.

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