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Monday, January 21st, 2013 at 10:50 am  |  64 responses

Vince Carter Wants Hall of Fame Consideration


Vince Carter’s career began in what seemed to be an unimpeded (and wildly spectacular) march towards the Basketball Hall of Fame. Injuries, lackadaisical play, and multiple NBA stops have since brought all of that into question. When it’s all said and done, VC thinks he belongs in the Hall. Per Fox Sports: “Of course, that’s a goal,’ Carter, said. ‘You hope [Carter’s career is] good enough. It would be a definite honor to go down into history with the greatest. I would love to be considered for the Hall of Fame … but I’m still trying to finish my career.’’ Carter, who turns 36 next Saturday, is in his 15th season, having reached a goal he once set for longevity. Carter, who has a team option on his contract next season for $3.18 million, didn’t want to speculate on how many more seasons he would like to play but said he definitely plans to be around for 2013-14. ‘I just go year-to-year, contract-to-contract,’ said Carter, who is averaging 12.3 points to drop his career average to 21.1. ‘My ultimate goal coming into the NBA was to play 15 years, so here I am, Now, we’ll see what happens.’ [...] Using history as a gauge, Carter probably will make it to Springfield. He’s made eight NBA All-Star Games. The only eligible player to have that many selections without a Hall of Fame call is Larry Foust, a center who played from 1950 to 1962 and averaged 13.7 points and 9.8 rebounds. [...] While Carter isn’t the scorer he once was, those on the Mavericks say he’s become more savvy and has improved his defense. While his 4.0 rebounding average over 24.9 minutes might not jump out, Carter this season actually is is on pace to average a career high in boards per minute. ‘I still feel great, that’s for sure,’ Carter said. But with the Mavericks in transition, time is running out for Carter to get to his first Finals. With Carter a candidate to be traded by the Feb. 21 deadline and with there being a reasonable chance his team option won’t be picked up this summer, Carter is likely to at least play for a sixth overall NBA team and fifth since 2008-09. ‘That’s something I want to do. I want to play for a championship,’ Carter said of being willing to hang on as a player to reach that goal.”

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  • RKJ92

    Hall of fame for dunks :)

  • bravo

    I agree. You deserve it with your big time dunks

  • JML-G

    eventually he will be there, thats for sure, but right now he should focus on joining a contending team – as we see this season with Dalls, he still can be huge help

  • JML-G

    poor Raptors fan – Darko Milicic will be in hof b4 Toronto even gets to ecf

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    If people associate you more as a dunker than as a winner in the context of the league, you don’t belong in the HOF. And I’m a huge VC fan.

  • spit hot fiyah

    if he didn’t sleep walk for those years when he was really in the middle of his prime he would be a lock

  • J Nasty

    Vince carter deserves to be in the hof. Personally I hope he makes it because it would encourage all the athletes to entertain at a high level, they would see Vince and say hey this guy really rocked the league for a couple of years and now he is immortalized in the hof. The counter argument is that’s all vince was is a dunker with some above avg scoring numbers, who was never a proven winner. But basketball hof consideration should go beyond just winning and losing, it should any contributions that they provide for the sport such as cultural impact, global recognition etc. Vince dunk in the Olympics just provided such a strong cultural message that Americans (at that time era) were superior that the rest of the world. Because of Vince basketball popularity in Canada sky rocketed and many of the Canadian athletes today were inspired by him. A side from all that rationale and reasoning just look at the mans mixtape

  • Max

    Bad joke.

  • LLC#12

    No way

  • http://www.facebook.com/zer02hero15 James Franco Guerta

    I think they must consider him. He put dunking to the next level he is like a groundbreaker.

  • The Philosopher

    If not a first ballot selection, he should make at on his second ballot.
    He’s an Olympian, and everything.

  • Dave

    Hall of Famers don’t quit on their teams…..ever. See Toronto Raptors. Since that time, Vince has been a bum.

  • Dave

    Vince Carter quit on his team in Toronto. I don’t support him being in the HoF.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    I mean if Reggie gets in with 18.2/3/3 averages, I don’t see why VC with his 21/5/4 averages can not.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Brill86 Andrew Woods

    If Vince makes it in doesn’t that mean that his cousin should be in too. Shawn Kemp doesn’t approve this message.

  • Rd

    He led the nets in scoring and even averaged 29ppg for them in the playoffs one year

  • Rd

    HE ALSO LED THE 2000 gold medal Olympic team in scoring that summer

  • bringbackthesonics

    reggie led his team to the finals and was one of the greatest shooters of all time

  • Dave

    HE QUIT & WHINED LIKE A BABY! End of discussion.

  • The Philosopher

    What about Kobe?
    Does he get the Call to the Hall?

  • Dave

    Kobe never quit: he is the quintessential killer. Second best killer in league history after MJ, so yeah, Kobe obviously in.

  • Dave

    Big deal… He quit on his other team. A quitter should never make the HoF

  • Dave

    Big deal… He quit on his other team. A quitter should never make the HoF

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    So I guess Kobe and LeBron have zero chance of making the HOF also.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    So I guess Kobe and LeBron have zero chance of making the HOF also.

  • https://twitter.com/Wayne__o BuenoWayno1

    Vince is a HOFer….sorry raptor fans

  • kev

    Hall of fame argument based on emotion O.o. THAT TEAM WASN’T SERIOUS ABOUT WINNING THAT GM BABCOCK DIDN’T WANT TO GET ANY VETERANS HE ONLY WANTED TO KEEP REBUILDING. WHEN THEY ASKED CARTERS OPINION THEY THREW IT AWAY. IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT MLSE(WHO OWNS THE RAPTORS, YOU’LL KNOW THAT THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT WINNING ONLY ABOUT TICKET SALES, WHICH THEY GET MORE THEN ENOUGH FROM THE LEAFS

  • dylan

    you may not like him as a raptor, but we nets fans appreciate what he’s done

  • The Philosopher

    I hear what you’re saying.
    But Kobe looked as if he quit, at least once.
    In the Playoffs against the Suns.
    When he wasn’t getting the ball when, and where he wanted it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/grasshoper.funk Grasshoper Funk

    Kobe…?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    2006 Gm7 vs PHX.

  • DaRaptor

    He’s definitely going to be in the Hall of Fame. He has too many points to not make it into the hall of fame. He won’t be first ballot but he will definitely be in there some day. He’s eventually going to pass Bird and Payton on the all time scoring list and there are only 2 players to not make it into the hall of fame with 20,000 career points.

    Not only was he the best dunker, but he’s a great scorer and was definitely clutch in his prime. So many clutch shots and buzzer beaters to win games. Obviously he couldn’t make the most important shot of his career (76ers/Raptors Game 7) but he was a very clutch player.

    Hopefully after all these Toronto fans realize what Vince had done for the Raptors, the Raptors can retire his number and hopefully he’ll be inducted as a Raptor.

  • keyon dooling

    ’05 or ’06 Suns series, game 7…when his effort was supposedly less than Bron’s “quitness” game vs Boston even though he had like 30 and 20. Lol.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    Well said!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Carter quit on a team for more than 2 months. Before he got traded to the Nets, he was averaging 15 ppg and playing horrible basketball, giving away plays to opponents, etc. He simply stopped caring for 2 months of the regular season. When he got traded, he miraculously started averaging 27 ppg, and had better numbers across the board. Its not even comparable in my opinion.

  • will

    so shaquille, lebron, kevin garnett, ray allen and others who left their teams at better chance for a championship dont deserve to be in the HOF?

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    i found it kinda amusing, at least lol

  • robb

    if you wanna be with the greatest you gotta be great. He was spectacular, but he’s never been great. Sorry VC.

  • Ugh

    It’s HALL OF FAME, not HALL OF NON-QUITTERS.
    Who was more famous than Vince at the turn of the millennium?

  • http://www.facebook.com/qcollingwood Interdico Scriptor

    Kobe’s from Philly

  • http://www.facebook.com/qcollingwood Interdico Scriptor

    Mostly right… but he’s not clutch. I watched him/went for him/was dissapointed by him/too many times. That damn fade away…. If dude had just taken it to the rim…(sigh)

  • flight7

    This is a no – brainer, he will get in the HOF. Outstanding college career, took Toronto to it’s most successful seasons ever and was an icon in the early 2000′s, one of the most underrated and greatest clutch players in history, had great success in new Jersey, made the final four with Orlando, Led U.S in scoring and to gold medal in 2000, about to pass Larry Bird with nearly 22,000 points (top one percent scorers all time), one of a handful of players with 15000 points, 5000 rebounds, and 1500 threes, and on top of all that could almost make it is a contributor to the game for his dunking ability alone – think about it – the greatest ever at one of the most important aspects of the game

  • KBM

    Do you know any of the details of what VC did to T dot? You sound extremely ill informed and stupid.

  • Matt

    You know how hard it is to score at the rim in late-minute situations?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    I watched pretty much the entire 1999-2000 and 2000-2001 seasons. At least in the regular season, Carter was a pretty clutch player from what I remember. There was one particular stretch in 2000 where he had literally a game winner every week or close to every week against the Celtics, Clippers, one against Houston, etc. Carter has shown, during the regular season atleast, that he could handle the pressure. He’s hit ~3 game winners just at the ACC against the Raptors with the crowd booing his every move.

    I’m not sure what the stats say, I know he’s missed more than his fair share. But his time with the Raptors is just a foggy memory of game winners, amazing dunks, and nostalgia so maybe I’m in the wrong here.

  • Jibreel

    So does Steve Francis, and Antoine Walker, and Tracy Mcgrady, and…….

  • Dave

    None of those guys outright stopped playing and pouted until they were traded. And all those guys lef teams to a ring….. Vince? Not so much.

  • dab

    Yea after kobe played with shaq, and lebron with wade and bosh, obviously they would get a ring

  • Mack

    Vince Carter is a first ballot hall of fame talent but didn’t have a first ballot hall of fame career IMO. Greatest dunker ever? Yes, we can all agree on that. But for a guy with such spectacular talents excluding dunking ability he really didn’t leave the impact he should have. The guy had 25-foot-plus range, great ball-handling, great defender when he gave the effort, and was an underrated playmaker.

    It’s definitely worth pointing out his Raptor years were plagued with some terrible general managing and questionable coaching as well, not to mention the injuries he and teammates suffered. But just the fact that he admitted to quitting and not giving 100% is absolutely heartbreaking as a Raptor fan.

    This guy was must-watch TV in Toronto from 1999 to 2002, and was still incredible to watch with the Nets and Magic. I think Vince should be in the Hall but he’s just barely making it in my books. He leaves you thinking about what could have been more than any player I can think of in the past 25 years.

  • Max

    Man, that’s like Mike Gilbert saying the Cavs would win a ring before Lebron would.

  • http://www.facebook.com/DanielUpYours Daniel Powers

    oh man -.- the man who invented the box score and emphasis on these stats should be shot

  • MF

    “You know you real you don’t say it

    You know you real, we gon feel it”

  • Marcuz

    Given that the HOF looks at Collegiate and Olympics play as well as NBA play…should be enough for him to make it…

    was a beast at UNC.

    brought back the Slam Dunk Competition just for him

    pretty successful at most of his NBA stops…

  • Dave

    Reggie was a killer, Vince not so much.

  • Dave

    All those guys won a ring after leaving and NONE of them out right quit on the court like Vince did in Toronto. Complain? Absolutely, part of the game. Quit? Hall of Famers never quit on the court.

  • pops

    He was a great player in the early 2000s and the scary thing is he could have been much better if he was more motivated.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    exactly, which was amusing. I think that was his point, lol

  • roy

    Antawn Jamison will have 20k career points and will probably not make the Hall. Just saying. But yeah, Vince should make it.

  • hehe

    whod kobe quit on? and lebron didnt quit. putting up astronomical number against the celtics in the playoffs his last year in cleveland is hardly quitting…fuckhead

  • MasterSplinter

    It is ignorant for you to put Kobe and Lebron, two of the best to ever do it, every year 1st team all-NBA or MVP, pretty much every year all-defense team in that discussion. Vince Carter has never been anything but an underachieving athletic talented player with poor work ethic. He is the poster boy for how being extremely talented and athletic can hurt you in the long run if you have poor work ethic. What has a Carter team EVER done in the playoffs….He was in the olympics though…oh yeah, the one that won bronze. Instead of the olympics, he should get a lifetime underachievement award.

  • eh

    He actually won a gold medal in Sydney for the 2000 Olympics.

  • eh

    What about Scottie Pippen? Didn’t he refuse to go into a playoff game against the Knicks during Michael’s first retirement?

  • MasterSplinter

    My mistake, he is though, a big disappointment. He was given all of the tools and used them for a while and refused to sharpen and clean them. In all honestly though, he should probably be in the hall because he is the best dunker of all time. It’s just a shame that him and his cousin T-Mac lacked the competitive drive to be better.

  • Dave

    Scottie didn’t quit on his team for 2 MONTHS. Whine here or there, sign with another team: there’s a big difference between doing that and quitting out on the court. As soon as Derrick Coleman gets into the HoF, I’ll lobby for Vince: exact same attitude.

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