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Tuesday, February 19th, 2013 at 9:00 am  |  47 responses

Multiple Teams Involved in Josh Smith Trade Talks


by Marcel Mutoni / @ marcel_mutoni

It appears that there’s a good chance Josh Smith will no longer be an Atlanta Hawk by the time the NBA trade deadline comes and goes this Thursday.

The Hawks are in negotiations with multiple teams about their talented, unhappy forward. Some possible destinations for Smoove include Boston, Washington, Brooklyn, Phoenix and Milwaukee.

Per ESPN:

Another team pinpointed the Phoenix Suns and Milwaukee Bucks as the strongest contenders to win the Smith sweepstakes. The big worry for both of those teams, though, is whether they could really risk trading for Smith when convincing him to re-sign for the long term is likely to be a serious challenge in either city. Especially with Smith said to be angling for a max deal … and with nobody confusing the Suns or the Bucks with Mikhail Prokohorov’s Nets. Chris Broussard, furthermore, tweeted early Tuesday that the Washington Wizards have made anyone on the roster available for Smith, apart from John Wall, Bradley Beal or Nene Hilario.

NBA front-office sources said that the Boston Celtics have, indeed, registered their interest on the Smith front, with the caveat that they also remain highly interested in the Clippers’ Eric Bledsoe. Yet a Boston deal for Smith, sources said, would almost certainly have to be built around Paul Pierce, because Kevin Garnett isn’t waiving his no-trade clause to go to the Atlanta Hawks if he’s not willing to waive it to go to the Clipperland. And the prospect of Celtics front-office chief Danny Ainge exiling Pierce to the Hawks for Smith, after everything Pierce has done to restore the Celtics to glory over the past half-decade, is still hard to imagine.

Josh Smith is set to become an unrestricted free agent this summer, and given his desire for a max deal (and the Hawks’ reluctance to sign him to such a contract), the chances of him continuing to play in Atlanta beyond this week appear slim.

Stay tuned, as always …

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  • Bigbeats23

    Josh smith in no way shape or form deserves to make max money look at stoudemire in new york and joe johson in brooklyn what a waste of 20 Mil per year smoove is good for 18,9,4,2,1 those stats dont deserve max money

  • spit hot fiyah

    out of the teams mentioned i can only see the suns giving him the max, they also have some a lot of pieces that they are not in love with that are moveable

  • roscoe

    DAL is a player for Jsmith.

  • christianbullen

    It’d be cool if he went to the Spurs, though I’m not sure for who… That would make the Spurs a true threat to win it all this year, though they might be that already.

  • ctk

    who else doin that?

  • Irishway’s

    The Bucks would give a max deal especially with Jenning’s on the outs’

  • Irishway’s

    I’d like to see that too.. But the Thunder got the west locked up this year..

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    defensively speaking, Josh Smith is worth a max. It’s just a question of commitment.

  • Mack

    Josh Smith is going to get the Max for two reasons: 1. the poor free agent class this year and 2. some sad team waving big money at him in need of a boost… the second being a bit of a sad reality of the NBA today. If you have the right pieces around him you can contend but he hasn’t proven to be a winner nor a terrific leader, both qualities I’d evaluate when handing out my max contracts. I’m not trying to put him down, I think he’s an outstanding talent that puts up great statlines every other game but as far as money goes he’s clearly asking for more than he’s worth.

  • analfissures

    I think the Spurs and Clippers would disagree with that statement.

  • jo

    Really , joe johson is doing a very good job for NETS

  • http://twitter.com/ChillFrom91Til Allan

    Sanders & Jennings/Ellis for Smith? Horford can go to his natural position(PF)

  • MasterSplinter

    Oh yeah…. How about that all star game Joe Johnson wasn’t in, and I missed Josh Smith too. Max players? Give me a break.

  • pposse

    its Nene not Nene Hiarious

  • RKJ92

    Are you nuts? lol, that’s every good player from the bucks for josh smith :S not to mention that the salaries wouldnt match for the trade..

  • http://twitter.com/boweezy33 Bo Gilpin

    Amare Stoudemire For Josh smith.

  • Clos1881

    Maybe the celtics send Jeff green and Avery Bradley or Sullinger for smith and morrow

  • http://twitter.com/ChillFrom91Til Allan

    I meant Sanders & Jennings or Ellis for smith. Hawks would have to include other players & picks

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you realize Ellis is on pace to have the worst 3pt shooting season in history? just checking.
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    not that i disagree. i think Sanders for Smith almost makes sense by itself with what Sanders can do, and Smith expiring.

  • https://twitter.com/jasontichenor Mr. Wet

    NBK Is my understanding correct that a team can only have 1 five year max player?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    no. you have a salary cap. however you go about filling it is your business. plus, you can resign your own players (that have been on the roster 3+ years) for a contract that puts your team above the cap for a penalty.
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    so simply, no, you can have multiple max level players.
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    For Instance, the Knicks have 2 – (Amar’e & Carmelo)

  • http://twitter.com/thursti_tyht Thurstian Tsui

    this is probably the year the Thunder don’t have the west “locked up”, didn’t LAC beat them a couple times this year?

  • http://twitter.com/thursti_tyht Thurstian Tsui

    you’re right its not nene hiarious its nene hilario.

  • LakeShow

    Wow, Ellis sucks. Had no idea….

  • https://twitter.com/jasontichenor Mr. Wet

    Gotchya. I thought I read somewhere during the whole Kevin Love contract talks that a team could only have 1 five year max player. And 2 four year max’.s with the new CBA. The older contracts (melo, amare) being grandfathered in. Perhaps it was just speaking on the restrictions of cap issues making that the logical way that a team would have to operate. As opposed to an official rule.

  • jedi420

    this guy is so not a max talent player.. I’ve watched a ton of him the past few years because he’s on my fantasy team. He puts up numbers but his b-ball IQ is horrible, you can’t go to him at the end of games, FT shooting is abysmal, shot selection in general is terrible.. honestly if someone gives this guy 100 mill they are getting robbed.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    That report was about Minnesota specifically not being willing to pay 2 max guys. I understand the confusion.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    “Tuesday that the Washington Wizards have made anyone on the roster available for Smith, apart from John Wall, Bradley Beal or Nene Hilario.”. Basically saying “you can have anyone you want…err..apart from anyone decent.”

  • LobCity

    Clips lost in overtime @ OKC & lost @ home w/o CP3. Last yr is when they beat em twice, IIRC. Would be a fun series.

  • VC

    hahahahaha.

  • thesage

    the Atlanta Hawks are not a charity organization.

  • pposse

    thought he dropped his last name like 5 years ago

  • http://twitter.com/thursti_tyht Thurstian Tsui

    Oh, well it’d be a great series either way, especially if LAC can pick up someone via trade

  • Mike From Spain

    I really think I read that the 5 year contract could only be offered by the current team, and I was under the impression that only one max 5 year contract could be offered (the ‘Derrick Rose rule’), and other max contracts were to be 4 years long… I might have misunderstood or assumed part of that though

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    A Max contract refers to the pay, not the years. There is are 4 different types of Max Contracts.

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    - Veteran Max Contracts with Bird Rights – Which is what Amar’e Stoudemire and Melo signed – (5-year contracts instead of 4, sometimes with a 1-year or 2-year option for the maximum amount of money — about 17M a season + 10% each additional year).

    - Veteran Max Contracts – Which happens rarely. So rarely (because of sign and trades) i honestly can’t even think of one right now.

    - Standard Max Contracts with Bird Rights – Which is what Russell Westbrook and James Harden signed most recently. – (also features a 5th year option)

    - Standard Max Contract – Which is typically being offered to a restricted free agent. For example, Roy Hibbert was offered this deal from Portland. So while he is still with his team in Indiana, he is actually an example of a Standard Max Contract.

  • Redd

    I think it’ll be the Suns.

  • bballer12345678

    but you’re forgetting about jordan crawford and trevor ariza. crawford has proved to be a consistent player off the bench

  • LeroyShonuff

    The suns are about 3-4 yrs too late. They should of targeted him when he was a rfa and maybe Nash would still be there.

  • LeroyShonuff

    If I am the Spurs, this is the gamble I would take. Manu and Neal for Smith and Morrow. Plus one of the euro bigs the Spurs have stashed. Smith is a top 15 player in the nba (we overrate offensive players too much, Josh is a bonafide game charger defensively and better offensively than given credit for). With Duncan, Parker, Leonard and them shooters, Smith will clog passing lanes, add addition energy and while shutting down the lane. He will blow up pick and rolls. Outside of Durant, Smith takes out any front player in the west and guards as well. Plus Smith in transition with Parker??? Scary!!!

  • Max

    To Hawks: Ilyasova, Dalembert (expiring contract), Beno Udrih (expiring contract) and Mbah a Moute.

    To Bucks: Josh Smith, Anthony Morrow, Zaza Pachulia

    What do you think?

  • Max

    It works out financially, I checked.

  • LakerLuke17

    Josh Smith wants to play in Boston with Doc Rivers and Rondo. Any team that trades for him now is just wasting their time until free agency. Especially these small market teams like milwaukee and phoenix. Boston is one of the only major market team that will have cap space to lock him up longterm. Book it.

  • Shifty

    If you heard what isaiaha Thomas said he pointed out a good point. And lets put aside his crazy days in New York but everyone compares a max player to the Kobe Bryant’s the lebron James’s the Dwayne Wades and so forth. Thomas made a good point that there is a max. And that really Lebron James should be making a lot more then what is considered the max. So when we think of players like a Josh Smith we tend to compare them to Lebron James and those players because of the whole connection of his greatness to the label of max player. If this was a world where NBA players earned what they were worth then Lebron James would be earning who know’s what, 35 million a year or something but he can’t because of the max deals that constrain a move like that.
    Now do I feel Smith should get a max? I am unsure because as i just described I too sometimes compare him with Lebron and the others that earn the max. What he does bring are interesting attributes that not many players can say they can replicate. His athleticism, his rebounding, his defense, his blocked shots, yeah he shoots stupid shots, but he has made some clutch shots at times and has never really been the main guy until recently, but he has only known one franchise and hasn’t had a high caliber coach. I think he is close to a max if you look at it purely on his talents.
    But really I am kinda asking what do you guys think about what Thomas said? He can say some crazy stuff but this seemed pretty decent when you actually thought about it.

  • Mike From Spain

    Uhm… I think I will never get the NBA contract rules, at least not in detail or with any degree of precission.

  • dmc14

    as a josh smith and suns fan i’d be happy to see him in a suns uni. when johnson went to the hawks i prayed that somehow smith would end up in phoenix.

  • dmc14

    Go Suns

  • J Dub

    Josh Smith to the Wizards, link him with Wall

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