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Tuesday, February 26th, 2013 at 9:00 am  |  73 responses

Post Up: No Surrender

The Celtics refuse to quit in Utah.

by Peter Walsh / @goinginsquad

Wizards 90 (18-37), Raptors 84 (23-34)

D.C. took its show on the road and won their third straight game by beating the Raptors. Bradley Beal, who has quietly been playing really well since John Wall’s return, led the Wiz with 20 points on 8-13 shooting while Nene scored 11 points and grabbed 9 boards. DeMar DeRozan’s three-point play cut the Wizards lead to seven with 3:38 left, but the Raptors couldn’t build on that momentum. Rudy Gay, who had a bad 1-11 shooting performance, missed a free throw and the Wizards responded with a Nene dunk and a Trevor Ariza layup to make it an 83-75 game. Kyle Lowry gave Toronto a chance with back to back 3-pointers to make it 89-84 with 7 seconds left, but it was too little, too late. DeRozan finished with 25 points and Kyle Lowry had 18 and 5 boards.

 

Hawks 114 (32-23), Pistons 103 (22-37)

Behind 23 points and 22 boards from Al Horford and 23 points from J-Smoove, the Hawks beat the Pistons for their fifth win in six games. The Hawks led by ten at the half and dominated in the third quarter, outscoring Detroit 27-19 and stretching their lead to as many as 26. The Pistons did cut the deficit to 14 midway through the fourth, but Jeff Teague (20 points, 12 dimes) quickly quelled Detroit’s comeback attempt with a steal and a layup. Rodney Stuckey scored 22 points and Jonas Jerebko finished with 21 points and 6 boards.

 

Nuggets 119 (36-22), Lakers 108 (28-30)

With leading scorer Danilo Gallinari looking on from the bench thanks to a bruised thigh, the Nuggets ran circles around the Lakers to hand them their 30th(!) L of the season. Wilson Chandler started in place of Gallo and led the way with 23 points on 10-18 shooting in 25 minutes. The Nuggets were hammering dunks down left and right all while building an 18-point lead. Kobe did his damndest to bring the team back and his fadeaway with five minutes left in the game cut the deficit to seven. But by then it was too late as the Lakers couldn’t get any closer. Los Angeles was abused inside and allowed a staggering 78 points in the paint. Ty Lawson scored 22 points and handed out 8 assists and Corey Brewer scored 16 off the bench. Kobe finished with 29 points, 9 dimes and 6 boards. Dwight Howard finished with 15 points and 14 boards but shot a miserable 3-14 from the stripe.

 

Just ‘Cause:

Bone Thugs N Harmony – No Surrender

Celtics 110(30-27), Jazz 107 (31-26) F/OT

The Celtics played their fifth game in seven nights, faced one of the toughest road atmospheres in the NBA, went to overtime and still found a way to win. Paul Pierce (26 points, 8 dimes, 7 boards) provided the heroics for Boston after missing what would have been the game-winning shot at the end of regulation. In overtime, The Truth nailed a 3-pointer then hit a pull-up jumper over DeMarre Carroll to give the C’s a 106-101 lead with 1:12 remaining. Al Jefferson (15 points, 11 boards) responded with a mid-range J to cut the deficit to three but KG (13 points, 10 boards) hit a jumper of his own over Jefferson to put the Celtics up 108-103. Alec Burks’ layup with 37 seconds left cut the deficit to three and on the next possession, KG hit what would looked like the dagger after he banked in a 3-pointer with the shot clock expiring. But, the refs waived it off claiming the buzzer had already sounded and Utah had life. The Celtics opted to foul instead of defend so the Jazz wouldn’t be able to get off a tying three-point attempt and the gamble paid off. Paul Millsap hit both of his free throws to cut the lead to one and Courtney Lee hit both of his on the other end to push the lead back to three with 1.2 seconds left. Randy Foye attempted a 26-foot three but came up empty and the C’s escaped in overtime. Gordon Hayward scored 26 points and Avery Bradley finished with a season-high 18.

 

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  • RayJr

    2 steps forward and 1 step back but I didn’t think LA would win in Denver on a back-to-back. Denver plays great at home against anybody and would’ve played like this against most every team in the league who was coming in off a back-to-back. Flaws were once again exposed though with bad transition D and terrible FT shooting but overall LA had a good Feb and are on track to stealing that 8th spot. Love the Lakers or hate em, everyone will b watching them the rest of the season to see if they can pull it off.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Al Horford really is the most underrated player in the league.

  • spit hot fiyah

    that Denver clip was insane. way to me way back with bone thugs

  • http://twitter.com/vannshy vannshy

    http://youtu.be/ituuEBdkZfY

    Denver touched the ball last but still

  • http://twitter.com/stepfdelaghetto Stepfan Raiford

    Monta Ellis?

  • http://twitter.com/stepfdelaghetto Stepfan Raiford

    Height and Kenneth Faried’s energy are things you can’t teach.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Monta Ellis is overrated. Severely overrated.

  • Max

    That’s what happens when the fastest team in the L plays against the team with the worst transition D.

  • christianbullen

    tony parker.

  • http://twitter.com/stepfdelaghetto Stepfan Raiford

    HAHAHA He played well for the Warriors or was that the system?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    He’s considered a top 5 for MVP for the second year in a row. How is he underrated?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    You mean he had good stats? He is an inefficient shoot first, 6’2″ SG who is a horrible defensive player. I was one of the people who originally overrated him because I was mesmerized by his numbers. But in reality, he hasn’t helped a team win significantly since he was the 6th man in Golden State 5ish years ago.

  • Comment_System

    R.I.P. Alimoe.

  • Comment_System

    I would REALLY love for him to play in Chicago, I feel like having him in the PF spot and having rose back would really make them elite.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah, i don’t think he’ll be out of Atlanta anytime soon.

  • Comment_System

    Nuggets barely lose when they are the second team to face in a back to back. People were seriously surprised when the heat won during a similar back to back.

  • http://twitter.com/stepfdelaghetto Stepfan Raiford

    Just because nobody talks about him in the media doesn’t mean he’s underrated. TP is a beast.

  • http://twitter.com/stepfdelaghetto Stepfan Raiford

    Great point. Since he left Golden State they are thriving. Maybe that should be his role, but I don’t see that happening since he said he is on par with D-Wade. “the only difference between him and Dwyane Wade is more wins and two championship rings”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah i mean, it’s kind of his job to overrate himself. you can’t be an NBA player without an irrational ego (unless you have Eddy Curry’s body). So him thinking that isn’t surprising.
    .
    still, if he wants to win anything significant, at some point he’ll have to take a 6th man role on a contender. Like a Jason Terry type.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    gone too soon.

  • http://twitter.com/thursti_tyht Thurstian Tsui

    Not a Lakers fan but I really hope they get the 8th seed because the playoffs would be much more interesting. I just hope the Rockets aren’t the ones to lose the spot

  • LakeShow

    Now that the Celtics aren’t as unstoppable as they were the past several years, I really like watching them play. They scrap hard for their wins. Pierce always impresses me. And he’s one of the few guys in the L I don’t like, but I recognize what he is to the Celtics.
    He’s been GREAT for them throughout his career.

    Where do you think Pierce will end up on the all time list?

    Is he a top 50 player?

    I think so.

  • LakeShow

    Truth.
    You gotta give LA a lil credit for out scoring them (slightly) in the 2nd half and trying to make it a game. The Nuggets are officially what we all thought they were.
    The Western Pacers.
    Not in game style, but in personnel. They have 8 really, really good players.

  • LakeShow

    lol

  • Peter Walsh

    YO! Spent a good 20 mins watching old AND1 highlights last night and meant to throw up an Alimoe vid but it totally slipped my mind! R.I.P. man, Diabetes is no joke.

  • LakeShow

    You know I approve this.

    He could be one of the greatest 6th men ever.

    I know that’s ridiculous to say, but I believe it. In the right system with the right team he could beast on bench squads and easily average an efficient (circa 2007-08, 53% FG’s) 20+ ppg as a backup PG and SG.

    I hope that’s what happens next year, and for the rest of his career.

    He’s just not a good fit as a starting SG on any team.

  • LakeShow

    The Lakes gotta get Utah!
    Your going down Salt Lake!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i think @twitter-294409445:disqus is right that Ellis isn’t willing to do that. Even though he should be.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    what happened with his diabetes?

  • LakeShow

    Exactly. I have no faith he would. He just should.
    He probably thinks it would make his career worse, but in reality it would improve it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    I’m with you. He’s a Top-50 player. Career avgs. of 22/6/4. Career totals of 23,000pts/6,000rbs/4,000asts/1,500stls. 27th all time in Career Win Shares. Sounds like a Top-50 all-time player to me (maybe even Top-35 when you factor in his Finals MVP trophy)

  • RayJr

    Yeah I wasnt surprised with the outcome. LA would’ve had a very close chance for the W if they didn’t shoot so poorly from the FT line though.

  • LakeShow

    Kobe had another great game. . .

    He’s been an absolute beast this year. I’m so happy that he’s proved all the doubters wrong and at 34 years old is STILL the best SG in the L.

    Over the last 5 games he is averaging 28ppg – 7RPG – 7.5 APG – 55% FG’s – 38% – 3Pt.FG’s – 90% FT’s …

    Most importantly though, in the last 3 games he is shooting 75% FG’s in the 2nd half. His last two 4th quarters he is 7 for 10 FG’s.

    Okay fine, and one bad thing, he is tossing the ball away 4 and a half times a game.

    One thing is for certain, this seasons failures are in no way a result of KB’s on the court performance. He hasn’t been perfect, but he has done everything his body is physically capable of, to try to will the Lakers to W’s.

  • Peter Walsh

    Apparently he died of a seizure… if you read this: http://www.slamonline.com/online/other-ballers/streetball/2010/01/back-on-the-block/ it seems like he didn’t treat his illness correctly.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Ahh the report I read said his cause of death was not available. That’s terrible. Diabetes is scary

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk
  • The Philosopher

    If only guys liked playing with him…

  • LakeShow

    Funny. Nice try.

  • LakeShow

    Name 5 who who have said they didn’t like playing with KB?…

    I got Smush, Shaq, and maybe Eddie Jones? Anyone else?

    Others have said the opposite. That they thoroughly enjoy playing with KB.

    I’m not trying to say he’s golden in the way he plays with others, but dudes like to win and they like competitors… That’s Kobe.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    wasn’t a try. he’s been better over the last 9 games. actually he’s been better since 2013 started. and he was better the last 3+ years….so, it’s safe to say nothing has really changed. Kobe just started much much better this year. Like every year.

  • The Philosopher

    Well, it is arguable that Bean ran Slava Medvedenko out of the League. We know about Dwight Howard…
    Steve Blake has lamented to the press about how Bryant has only once said that Blake has done something right.
    It is reported that Phil Jackson doesn’t like him.
    Bynum celebrated more than Kobe did, when he left town.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    Kobe- 27ppg on 20.5 FGAs/5.4rpg/5.6apg/1.3/0.3/3.6 TOs on 47% shooting
    Wade- 21ppg on 16 FGAs/5pg/4.7apg/1.6/0.8/2.7 TOs on 51% shooting

    Kobe-22.9 PER/.571 TS%/.510 eFG%/31.6 USG%/112 ORtg/108 DRtg/7.9 WS/.172 WS/48

    Wade-23.9 PER/.568 TS%/.520 eFG%/29.7 USG%/112 ORtg/104 DRtg/6.6 WS/.186 WS/48

    Based on those stats, Kobe is scoring more on more shot attempts. rebounding/assisting better, has a higher TS%, use a higher % of his team’s possessions and more Win Shares. Wade is shooting a better %, defending better, turning the ball over less, has a higher PER, eFG%, DRtg and WS per 48. Basically, the only advantage Kobe has over Wade is that he is playing more mins and using more of his team’s possessions which leads to more rebounds/assists and shot attempts. Wade is having the better season in my eyes.

  • jaycee

    RIP. Its serious. It’s another western disease, all that white sugar and fake sugar in your foods, soda etc is the number 1 problem.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i doubt Alimoe was a type 2 diabetic man. wouldn’t make much sense for him to develop type 2 diabetes. type 1, which is unavoidable (or at least, avoiding it hasn’t been discovered) is not something that is caused by diet.

  • shutup

    Actually that would be one of the ways a player would be underrated, lmao. Yes he is a beast, also the most decorated pg of this era, and he still doesn’t get the respect he deserves.

  • LakeShow

    Has KB been the more integral part of his team? Yes

    Has KB done more for his team? Yes

    Is he his teams offensive focal point? Thus the focal point of the other teams defense. Yes

    How many times has Wade scored 30 points? = 5/Kobe = 22

    40 points? = Zero/Kobe = 5

    How many times has Wade had double digit assists? = Zero/ Kobe = 5

    Wades Free Through % = 74 … Kobes = 85

    3 point FG’s KB = 33%… Wade = 28%

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    .
    .

    I’m leaning pretty heavily on KB here fellas.

  • The Philosopher

    Kobe Bryant is better than Dwyane Wade.
    And has been throughout Wade’s entire career.
    In my opinion…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i mean i guess you could argue he’s underrated by people who don’t pay attention. but those people typically don’t have a rational view of anyone.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Junior-Taylor/100003121138419 Junior Taylor

    Was he better in 06/07 when Wade put up 27/5/7 on 49% shooting with a 29 PER compared to Kobe’s 31/5/5 on 46% shooting with a 26 PER?

    Or during the 08/09 seasons when Wade put up 30/5/7/2/1 on 49% shooting with a 30.4 PER (one of the greatest seasons for a 2-guard in history) compared to Kobe’s 27/5/5 on 46% shooting with a 24.4 PER?

  • Sérgio

    Absolutely agree. The only year that Wade was better than Kb was 10-11.

  • LakeShow

    I personally agree with the sentiment because KB’s been better or right next to Wade throughout Wades entire career.
    I agree with Sergio below me though.
    Wade had the better statistical year in 10-11.
    I’m glad to see that some of the regulars on here, like your self recognize Bean’s greatness.

  • http://www.rich-imaging.com/ Dutch Rich

    I’m thinking publishing houses are lining up already, waiting for the Mamba to retire. There will be dirt for sure. Probably harder to find people that did like playing with him. DFish is the only one I can think of. I bet his legacy will be tainted for sure. His bosses probably don’t like him either.

  • shutup

    Yeah but the uneducated masses outnumber the informed elite. Also the media should be part of the “people that know” but they rarely have him in the conversation for best pg in the game.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Man they were callin him the best PG in the game on ESPN the other day lol

  • christianbullen

    Sorry man I just had a whole paragraph typed out, but I dunno what happened and it is lost somewhere in the Slam stratosphere.. I’ll suffice it to say TP has won the most, and most consistently, and isn’t mentioned enough when talking about top players (might be changing recently.. finally..). And up until these last few weeks TP has always been blatantly disrespected by the so called experts in the mainstream media.. What has Al Horford done that makes him so underrated?

  • shutup

    I must have missed that, they probably precursored it with a Derrick Rose or Rondo injury update or seg-wayed from a Clippers, Chris Paul highlight, lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Exactly.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Lol It was Jalen Rose. So it could have been anything

  • shutup

    I love the Grantland pieces he does, some of the funniest Basketball related stories around.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he’s definitely one of the best basketball personalities we have

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Kobe is a better offensive player. YAY.
    .
    Wade is a WAY better defensive player. And a more efficient offensive player.
    .
    Oh, and he doesn’t have a volatile personality that will effect his effort and how he plays on a day in and day out basis. idk, i prefer defense and consistency, over big huge offensive games.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    How is Kobe Bryant a better OVERALL basketball player tho? That’s what i don’t understand. Kobe is better on offense. I’m cool with that. But when you bring in defense, and the whole locker room, consistent leadership aspect of basketball, I think Kobe takes a noticeable step back.

  • The Philosopher

    I think that the only players who genuinely liked playing with Bryant are, Lamar Odom and Ron Artest. I could be wrong…
    The jury is out on everyone else.

  • The Philosopher

    This is the thing;
    With Bryant, we knew immediately how good he can become. He had all of the tools to become the Hall of Fame talent that he is. With Wade, we knew he would be successful, but we couldn’t quite be sure on how successful he would be.
    Fast forward, Bryant has dominated games like few others in NBA History.
    He has a little more versatility than Wade. He can be effective in 3 (1, 2, and the 3) positions. Kobe can bang in the paint more effectively, is a better defender, better shooter, better in the clutch… has the rings, has more individual hardware. He is bigger, and stronger.
    The only real knock I, myself, have with Kobe Bryant is his leadership, in which you have mentioned. BUT, he has shown the ability to be a great leader.
    During their last championship, it was Bryant slapping guys on the butt, encouraging his comrades to finish the job with him. Pulling Gasol off of the floor, giving him the leadership he needed during a particular moment.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    wait. i am talking about right now. You said Bryant was better in the paint, a better defender, and more versatile? today? come on buddy, you can’t really believe that. i mean, if you do i’ll show you some numbers? maybe that’ll express my POV a little better.

  • The Philosopher

    Right now??
    My bad, man… Kobe is near the end of his career.
    Wade is supposed to be better. Right now.
    And, numbers do not lie. This is true. BUT, they also do not tell the whole story.
    Put The King on the Lakers. That is all.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    LOL, that’s all i’ve been arguing. all-time? i still have Kobe over LBJ (for the time being). so he is definitely above Wade.
    .
    but right now? and the last 3ish years? Wade has been better. As he should be, like you said.

  • The Philosopher

    No doubt.

  • The Philosopher

    Nah, without a doubt. Kobe is great. Damn great.

  • LakeShow

    You act like Wade is a really good defender or something…

  • http://www.rich-imaging.com/ Dutch Rich

    I think those 2 New York cats you mention might very well just feel blessed playing and living in Los Angeles. Fish and Kobe must be like brothers. Came at the same time, went through the same things. He might be the only one that has some true insight on what goes on in KB’s head. Also Bean Sr, Shayla and Sharia Bryant don’t like him. Might be only mamma Bean and possibly Jack Nick could last through an entire dinner session with the Mamba?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he is a really good defender. he’s not top 5, but he’s definitely one of the better defensive 2′s in the league.
    .
    and he’s by far the best help defensive 2. and second best help defending wing.

  • The Philosopher

    You raise a quite interesting point.
    Even his parents, at least at one time, didn’t like their son.
    Unimaginable to some, right?

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