Doc Rivers Compares Avery Bradley’s Defense to Scottie Pippen

You realize Seattle was down 3-0 going into that game, and Nate McMillan & Hersey Hawkins shared time with Payton on Jordan right? That was the game that it looked like Chicago wasn’t ready to play. As an entire team.

Dude, did you read the definition you posted? Do you understand what “precise” means? Absolute, no deviation. As in a “precise” measurement. Just admit you used the wrong word. You meant mainly, or mostly, or something along those lines. It’s ok, everyone makes mistakes.

For real. It’s not the end of the world, clearly you just pulled a Reggie Miller.
That means you repeated a common catchphrase, but in an inaccurate manner. Don’t be like Reggie.

Only if the words pertain to the topic. The idea is to discuss the topic using words, not discuss the meaning of words. Nor discuss the meaning of a comments section on a particular website, which is why I’m pulling out of this meaningless discussion as well, as I have no damns left to give about it either.

Dude… Just admit, Payton out physicalled Jordan a couple times. That’s not the big of a statement lol. A couple times isn’t much.

My point wasn’t that Payton is stronger than Jordan or anything, just that he is stronger than Bradley, by quite a margin.

Why didn’t Jordan post up on the Glove? He kept trying to shoot over him to no avail… I would have posted if I were Jordan, unless he thought Glove was to tough down in the post. He had the height the supposed strength, yet he did not.

In that game it was Payton on Jordan for the majority of the game.

You are stretching it with that 20 a little. Scottie topped out as a scorer at 22 a game and he only hit 20 a few times. He was a better version of Igoudala most likely.

that’s a very good point, if hand checking was still allowed you might as well call for sub if you this guy is about to guard you

If you are trying to discuss something, and use words that have a different meaning then what you meant, then doing what you want to do is impossible. Say what you mean, and nobody will focus on you misusing the English language.

Jordan shot fadeaway’s from the post anyway. Saying Payton out muscled him is like saying Kidd out muscled LeBron in 2011 because LeBron didn’t post up.

I said what I meant, then it was misunderstood in a reply, so I clarified what I meant for the benefit of the discussion. Even if I wasn’t clear the first time, I made myself clear right after it. Now, everything that comes after that, is people just digging at the wrong thing — not my problem.

No where is Payton listed as 6’2″…
He’s easily 6’4″
They are lying if he is listed as such.

Payton may not look like much, but he is as strong a PG as there ever was. Don’t let his lack of big pecks and biceps fool you.
He was very strong.

I just love the fact that he wants to play tough defense. Paul George, LeBron, Iggy are all great defenders and they will lock you up when they have to but Bradley just does it naturally. I’m sure Doc doesn’t make him pick up full court most times, he just wants to. It’s refreshing.

Bosh got injured in the Indiana series, but returned in game 5 of the Boston series.

words have meanings. whether you meant to do something is irrelevant. what you did is what matters in terms of language. it’s spoken. it has meaning. you don’t control what they mean. i don’t control what they mean. that’s why we are able to communicate, because the words have meanings outside of our control.
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you said something you didn’t mean. it’s ok. get over it.

Harper played point by definition. Although Pippen initiated a heap of the offense during his whole career. But Harper was the point guard. He was the reason they were able to switch. BJ Armstrong and John Paxson before him did not give the team that luxury.

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Phil Jackson did the same thing in LA with Harper, Bryant, and George/Fox. It wasn’t because of Pippen. It was because of Harper.

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Who before he came to Chicago was a top 10 SG.

I control what I mean and I know what I meant. Hence why we have a word in the English language called “clarification,” just in case one doesn’t understand what the other meant, he/she can clear up confusion, solely avoid situations like this. Which doesn’t work with a specific group of people, obviously, because they want to drag out a pointless topic. But, yes, your last 3 words. 3 words I’ve been describing for so long in this back and forth series of comments: Get over it.

Nah, this isn’t true.
The meanings of words are determined by the people who speak them and the people who hear them. The process of communication, at its core, involves encoding-distribution-decoding. Dymez’s message was decoded by everyone based on the standard meaning of the word strictly while he was using some personal definition.

yes that’s fair. Although still, Payton wasn’t on Jordan for the entirety of game 4 (McMillan in his comeback game, and Hawkins in the first quartish were on Jordan). And in game 5 Jordan did shoot 50%.

The meaning of words, in group-speak are determined by a group. Typically, the Dictionary is the representative for the group.
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*Scrabble would be a mess without definitions.
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He should have just used the word he meant, instead of making up his own definition. We aren’t arguing over the use of slang. We are arguing over the use of an adjective.

I don’t disagree. What I’m noting is the idea that there are set meanings to words, or that they aren’t fluid is wrong. But, in this case he just misused a catchphrase and didn’t want to admit he was incorrect.

Jesus Christ, you’re still on this? Get over it, buddy.

If he gets himself a consistent jump shot… it will be his time to take off

Bradley is a point guard he is only listened at SG because of Rondo. And Payton is stronger than Bradley. Payton had what you would call Grown Man Strength. He didn’t need to have puffed up muscles (Corey Maggette) dude would just out muscle you. And yes Payton did give Jordan fits and it was George Karl who lost that series by not switching Payton earlier and ignoring Kemp (who was killing Rodman) by playing Sam Perkins waaayyy too many mins looking for a size advantage.

Why did you say all of this nonsense? The point was about the defense they played and why they were able to play it. I don’t need an explanation of the difference in every team. .
And no, Pippen didn’t a could guard Centers. A block doesn’t even kind of prove otherwise. Unless you are next going to argue Nate Robinson could guard Yao Ming……

Nobody was talking about the nuances of each team. Just why the Bulls were able to run their pseudo matchup zone on the perimeter (and I just used used the Lakers to illustrate that reason). Again, I don’t know why you said all of this nonsense. I appreciate that you took the time to say all of that but I’m not trying to break all this down, was just trying to stay within the conversation.