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Monday, April 8th, 2013 at 9:10 am  |  149 responses

LeBron James Wowed He’s About to Win His 4th MVP


by Marcel Mutoni@ marcel_mutoni

Only four players in NBA history have ever won four or more MVP awards — Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (six), Michael Jordan (five), Bill Russell (five) and Wilt Chamberlain (four) — and pretty soon, LeBron James will expand the group.

LeBron is set to become just the second player to win four MVPs in a five-year span (the other being Bill Russell.) Even James — currently putting the finishing touches on one of the most remarkable individual and team seasons of all time — is amazed by what he’s about to accomplish.

Per Fox Sports:

“Anytime I’m mentioned with the greatest players to play the game or people period, it is a wow factor because I grew up and studied those guys and watched those guys, and a few of those guys were my inspiration growing up,” James said. [...] The Heat (60-16), who reached 60 wins in a season for just the second time in team history, are resting players down the stretch as they have the NBA’s top overall seed all but locked up. Sitting out Saturday were guard Dwyane Wade, who missed a fourth straight game due to a sore ankle and knee, and center Chris Bosh, who had a sore knee. It remains to be seen what the final victory total will be by Miami, which is one shy of equaling the team record for wins set when the 1996-97 Heat went 61-21. But the MVP race is over.

“If I’m fortunate enough to do that, it would be an unbelievable feat,” James said. “I know where I’ve come from, a small city in Akron, Ohio, and what I’ve built over the years. And I would give a lot of credit like I always do to my teammates and coaches that I had before I got to the NBA and how that allows me to do things that I do on the floor. We got a long way to go before those votes are in, but if I am awarded that award then I’m excited about it again and very humbled and very blessed about it.”

The 28-year old LeBron James will have plenty of time to add to his trophy collection. Both Pat Riley and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar think LBJ could challenge Cap’s record six MVPs:

Even Abdul-Jabbar knows his record could be in jeopardy. Asked earlier this season if James could break it, he responded through his publicist, “He might.”

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  • Wang Litaker

    Ohhh! I’m telling!!! He said, she said. Gossip. Videos instead of articles all of the sudden. 98269526958527 people have also said that he is going to win his 4th MVP. Why is this news? It’s not. SLAM just doesn’t have the writers they once had so now just post what someone recorded him saying. Or a video we got from ESPN, TNT, or cell phone camera. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! We want stories, true stories. STEP YOUR GAME UP SLAM! This website was once great, no reason to sell out THIS hard.

  • billie

    melo will steal it this year

  • http://www.facebook.com/devin.williams1 Devin Williams

    Bron will prolly end up with 8 or more before he done

  • SirGrey

    Cut it out.

  • TV63

    WHo determines this? THe media, sports analyst?

  • KevinJohnsonFan

    How is this gossip? The words came directly from LeBron. Explain how this is gossip. How is this not a true story? He was asked a real question. He answered it. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar made comments out of his mouth. LeBron really is about to win another MVP award. Explain yourself. Not everything has to be breaking news on this website. This isn’t CNN.

  • Lloyd

    Bar any serious injury, Lebron will end up with at LEAST six MVPs. He’s going to go down as the greatest. Only thing MJ will have on him by the time LBJ’s career is over is that he did it first.

  • zkush

    it’s really easy to win if you’re already the best from your generation and play alongside arguably the second best player from your draft class who already won his own championship..and i’m not even going to bring up the dinosaur and the array of shooters he has been surrounded with.

  • http://twitter.com/mtahirnaeem Muhammad Tahir Naeem

    This article is about winning the ‘Most Valuable Player’ award. Not the championship.

    LeBron will go down as the Greatest Of All Time. [and I'm not even a LBJ/Heat fan]

  • Tempest

    LONG LIVE THE KING

  • bike

    LeBron has the potential to be the G.O.A.T.

  • Lloyd

    I don’t know what you expect. There isn’t enough big news in the NBA for there to be breaking news headlines everyday. And video proof of any event is much better than a written perspective on it, which is also included in most videos they post. If you don’t like it, leave.

  • Nella

    He certainly could, but the same thing could happen to him that happened to Jordan – voter fatigue. Barkley and Malone, while great, were not MVPs in 93 and 97.

  • zkush

    yeah. it is easy to win games if the opposing teams can’t really commit great pressure on you on defense because they’re also staying on everybody else. and that’s why he’s been posting astronomical numbers.

  • initbruv

    It’s not news, you’re right. It’s them sharing the thoughts of the soon to be mvp reflecting on his incredible season. This is a basketball website, what are you hoping they’ll do? Hard hitting journalism where they ask all the tough questions and always get the whole story? Relax, it’s just sports. And if you want more articles buy a subscription you cheap f*ck.

  • coyboo

    any explaination why jabbar aint considered by many as the current g.o.a.t. ?

    among his accolades:

    most points scored in a carerr
    most regular season mvp

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    I don’t know why people would still hate on him. Dude is just straight bananas on his game.

    4 mvps. I’m not suprised but I am at the same time

  • http://twitter.com/cmd3382 CMD

    Yea…Just go ahead and give him the MVP award. LeBron is just “That Dude”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Definitely. I think he just might finish with 7 MVPs. I’m not as confident he can catch MJ’s 6 rings though.

  • shockexchange

    There’s King James and then there’s “everybody else.” If he continues to play by “the Rules” he may win a few more.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    Not many people hate on him anymore.

    Winning cures all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    His prime was in the 70s, he’s introverted, and he was overshadowed by Magic (in terms of popularity) when the Lakers/Celtics revived the NBA in the 80s.

    MJ just happened to be at the right part of his career as the NBA took off on a global level; he was the poster boy for the globalization of the NBA with his skill and accomplishments. Its easier to remember what MJ did in the 90s on national TV, the Dream Team, etc., then it is to remember what Kareem did as a Milwaukee Buck in 1972.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    ….he was posting almost identical numbers in his Cleveland days. Believe it or not, Boobie Gibson is not that good.

  • ChosenOne

    Jordan could have really been MVP every season he was in the league with the Bulls. Yes, even his rookie year he was a legitimate MVP candidate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shooting.guard.319 Shooting Guard

    MVP! MVP! MVP!

  • http://www.facebook.com/shooting.guard.319 Shooting Guard

    true, he won’t catch MJ on the rings. 6 rings is pretty difficult to achieve. But just one more ring or two, he’s definetly in the good books

  • coyboo

    great point. would have been great in visualizing the cap at the height of his prime now. things would have been different.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shooting.guard.319 Shooting Guard

    not sure, but watching him play, it’s pretty obvious he deserves the crown

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    plus having a Dwight Howard around doesn’t hurt either

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    no he wasn’t.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    Hahahahhahaha

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he posted astronomical numbers in Cleveland. Do you even attempt to think things out before you say them?

  • ChosenOne

    He clearly was. He was 6th in MVP voting his rookie year and also a starter in the All-Star game. 28, 6 and 5 and led his Bulls to the 7th seed in the East. Of course, it was unlikely he was gonna win it right off the bat, what with Larry Bird in his element that season… but he was a candidate for sure.

  • K_HOLIDAY

    Thats what you call hate NBK… not even sure why you responded to that one lol.. This is nothing new when it comes to Lebron articles on SLAM

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he was a candidate in the same way that James Harden is a candidate today.
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    he was a top 10 player, he was really great.
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    but he had ZERO chance of winning the MVP.

  • Perry the PlatyPteranodon
  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i respond so that the other people who read this aren’t only exposed to stupidity. you gotta know that about me by now pimp.

  • pposse

    smh, plus 9 scoring titles, plus like 30 more times he dropped 50 pts in a game, plus 5 more times of dropping 60 pts in a game..plus a better PER than Lebron had throughout a career (including the wizard days)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    So what your saying is, you clicked on “news and rumors” and expected an original article?

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    the problem seems to be with your intelligence. Not with Slam regressing as a publication.

  • Feez_22

    ahhhahahahhaa

  • DaRaptor

    He’s halfway into his career and he already has 21,000 points. He only has 1000-2000 less career points than Vince Carter, Ray Allen, and Tim Duncan. He’s definitely going to beat Kareem’s record barring injuries of course. And obviously stated from this article on his way to 4 MVP’s and probably more. If he gets those multiple rings, he will be the G.O.A.T.

  • Dave

    These responses are exactly what dude was alluding to. If you read SLAM for more than 3 years, you would realize that the mag has gotten smaller – yet more expensive – than ever before. This website used to be all about in-depth analysis, interviews, behind-the-scenes stories, etc. Had nothing to do with “buying a subscription”. But I understand why SLAM changed, and I can understand why people such as yourself are so blind to it. The blind leading the blind. You just keep buying that subscription junior…they GOT your ass hahaha

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he didn’t win in his prime. and in the NBA won all of his 6 titles next to, up to that point, the greatest PG of all-time. (Oscar Robertson for the first one, Magic for the next 5).

  • ThaWindy

    I’ll give him at least one more for sure. The year they gave it to Malone and we all know how that turned out…And Ill take away one Finals MVP and give it to Pippen…against the Sonics…

  • Seeru

    Or maybe, just maybe, the OP is right and the masses (yourself very much included, sir) are “face down, eyes to the ground”. Matter of fact, 1-2 people seeing something that the other 200 are blind to is so well-known by media personnel it is basically mindblowing. The OP was right, and everyone else is right in their own mind, which is why SLAM can regress as a publication and more and more people feed in to it. They got you hook, line, and sinker, and your comment shows just that. It’s ok, they had minds like yours in mind when they decided to “dumb it down”. Just a little free education for you partner, I don’t expect you to listen.

  • initbruv

    No he wasn’t alluding to the magazine size or price, he was talking specifically about the website, “junior”. You do understand what alluding means right? And if you’re unhappy with Slam then don’t visit their website. I don’t understand you whiny types that come on here and want everyone to know how unhappy you are with Slam…just do some push ups, take a nap, eat a sandwich, and then go f*ck yourself because nobody wants to hear you whine Dave.

  • Nate

    No, woman, critiquing someone isn’t hate. Grow up and expand your vocabulary and stop using a word that does not remotely apply to 99% of the situations it is used in. Hate? Come on man, open a book before you open your mouth.

  • K_HOLIDAY

    Truuuuuuue

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    here’s some free education.
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    go to http://www.slamonline.com
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    look on the left side.
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    there is a nice little area called “featured stories”

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    there you will find what the OP is whining about

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    The thing is, SLAMONLINE has had the same structure for the last 8 or so years.

    .
    Comments like this from the OP, ” We want stories, true stories. STEP YOUR GAME UP SLAM! This website was once great, no reason to sell out THIS hard.” – and then defended by you.
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    Is just perpetuating ignorance.
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    And, just for the record, my comment shows an understanding for the website, which hasn’t changed in almost a decade. You and Wang, well your comments show an opinion rooted in ignorance.

  • rae ray

    Also, he posts astronomical numbers because defense has been practically eliminated from the NBA. I could go out there and score 10 points a night easily, and my playing days are long gone. This crap is ballet with a ball, strictly done to make it easier to watch.

  • initbruv

    How do you dumb down sports? Sports is just a release and entertainment for everyone. Why are you guys so f*cking serious about it? What are the hard hitting articles you’d like to see?

  • K_HOLIDAY

    Actually, I believe hate can be deemed appropriate in this scenario. The comment I referred to as being what one would consider hating was the comment that centered around the notion that Lebron is only putting up astronomical numbers because defenses cant key on him. That yells hate to me because like NBK said, Lebron has been putting up ridiculous numbers since his days in Cleveland, where his supporting cast was at best a 10th place team in the east without him. Defenses keyed in then, and still couldn’t stop his production. Zkush’s comment was way off, which in my opinion can be categorized as hating on Lebron’s talent and achievements. You sound foolish telling me to open a book before I open my mouth.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    this is the most ignorant comment of the year. AMAZING.

    .i mean seriously, This is like arguing that Electricity is magic.

    defense in the NBA has never been as good as it is today. not even close.

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    it’s why they keep changing the rules to make offense easier.

    .

    the belief that defense has somehow taken a step back is absurdly ignorant. Do some f*cking research.

  • initbruv

    These dudes keep harking back to this vague time in the past where Slam was doing “real” stories, the defense in the NBA was incredible, the food all tasted better, and colors were brighter…It’s the same sort of simple minded nostalgia that makes people talk about the 1950s like it was paradise on earth.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    it’s pretty stupid honestly. arguing defense has regressed is like arguing mankind has regressed scientifically. arguing LeBron’s number’s are only good because of his teammates is like arguing that Arizona is only hot because of Global Warming.
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    i have plenty of real life analogies though, if anyone else wants to post their own stupid ideas about the NBA.

  • LakeShow

    How in the sam f*ckin hell is this comment received 9 up votes. This guys got a ways to go fellas… Slow your roll.

  • shhsh

    LeBron will slow down with his aging body. They way he plays now is all based on his athletic body and power. As he grows older, he will loose this. He has no other real way to score except using his athleticism to take over the paint and an occasional jumper. MJ was extremely diverse in old age he had polished just abiut every way tobscire. Until lebron does this, he will not pass kobe let alone mjs records.

  • RKJ92

    I’m almost sure (without looking it up) LeBron’s PER has been higher then MJ’s for almost 5 years now, I’d like to see your statement cited so I could see it for myself..

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah i have no idea.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    AMAZING THAT YOU CAN SEE INTO THE FUTURE.

  • RKJ92

    That is COMPLETELY false, if you ever watch LeBron play consistantly, you would see how nice his shooting has become, he doesn’t RELY on his strength and athletism this is such a common misconception because its such an easy crutch to use.. LeBron is the REAL DEAL he has every weapon you could imagine, a consistant jumpshot, postgame, extremely high bball IQ, court vision, almost perfect intangibles.. these don’t fade with old age so your comment is bunk…

  • pposse

    MJ’s career PER is 27.9 on basketball reference (regular season), which includes 142 games as a Wizard, Lebrons career PER to this point is 27.6 (regular season). MJ’s playoff career PER is 28.6, while Lebron’s is at 27.1. I just looked at the totals column.

  • LakeShow

    I don’t want to be a hater, really don’t.

    James deserves the MVP this year (and the last 3 for that matter). Undoubtedly…. but common… GOAT already? Just slow down lol.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Just like I said with Kobe, LeBron is not in the GOAT conversation. It’s an absurd argument to have just because of MVP awards. I could make a great argument that MVPs tell more about era then anything, anyway. (Even though that isn’t completely true).

  • Anthony Dixon

    or start something and make your own website.

  • Anthony Dixon

    Bill Russell will always be the G.O.A.T.

  • robb

    Greatness is more than being the best basketball player (and Lebron arguably could be already the best basketball player ever) I’ve always thought greatness is more than talent and skill to play, and more than championships even. Do I consider Ali the best boxer ever? maybe, maybe not, you could make a strong case for Sugar Ray Robinson, Jack Johnson or Joe Louis. Do I considerAli the greatest boxer ever? Absolutely. MJ will remain the greatest for what he did on court, off court and the whole mystique and personality he had. In that sense Lebron will never reach MJ’s level. My opinion.

  • havoc33

    Lebron ruined his chances of becoming G.O.A.T. the day he decided to team up with two allstars instead of trying to beat them. You just don’t do that ish. And even if you look past it, you certainly can’t ignore how MJ is 6/6 in the Finals, and was ten times more clutch than Lebron will ever be. The regular season MVP is a popularity vote now anyway, and the only reason MJ didn’t win more was that they became bored of voting for him. Time will tell if the same happens with Lebron.

    Before the voters got bored of MJ, the MVP more often than not used to go to the best player in the league. Now it’s best season/best player on best team/hottest story/whatever they can come up with to vote for who they like the most. In other words, the regular season MVP has become a bit of a joke. That’s how Kobe got robbed in 06, and Nash somehow is a two-time MVP, which is ridiculous. Lebron for MVP this year though IS totally justified. He’s the best in the league, and his team has performed well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.

    What exactly did MJ do off the court that was so great compared to Lebron? MJ’s entire off court personality was manufactured by Nike and other companies. He was not the happy go lucky role model that he was portrayed to be; he was a ruthless competitor that would rip the hearts of opponents and his own teammates if he needed to. Its akin to a lion in a circus running through a hoop.

    Lebron has stood tall with only minor scratches in a 24/7 news media cycle – MJ would not have been able to last as a role model figure in 2013 without being vilified for his off court actions.

    MJ was a a transcending figure, but his mystique off the court is that of a competitive jacka**. Lebron (and I don’t even like the guy) seems like a genuinely caring dude for who basketball is a passion and love, but not the end of the world. And that’s not a bad thing at all.

  • bike

    Sure, he may very well not. Potentially, though, he’s on track to be in the same conversation with Jordan by the end of his career. The reason I think LeBron may make it is that he keeps improving and expanding his game plus he seems resilient to serious injury. Jordan really began to separate himself from all others the latter half of his career and LeBron could still do the same.

  • LakeShow

    Who cares.

  • danpowers

    well said

  • pposse

    well for one MJ’s other interests consisted of golfing, gambling, smoking cigars, baseball.

    All you see from the players nowadays are horrible fashion sense, twitter, instagram (off court).

  • danpowers

    “What exactly did MJ do off the court that was so great compared to Lebron”
    put the game to new heights. his influence even reached me in germany and ppl all around the world as THE all time embassador of basketball. james doesnt have the same charisma or magic. nike tried but didnt succeed in building the same… call it “aura” around james. he just doesnt have that kind of mojo. and he is hard to compare to jordan coz both play different positions and dominate in different ways. he plays the game probably smarter than jordan did but not with the same intensity and fire. james also didnt dominate defensively at the same level jordan did (yet). that r just some reasons why i think that james will end up among the field of those who could be considered 2nd greatest of all time, like jabbar, russell, magic, bryant, etc

  • danpowers

    i think jordan and basketball as the sport he promoted world wide were lucky that we didnt have the internet (later, sure, but not to todays horrible extent), horrible fashion faggish sh*t, twitter and instagram back then. with all this media coverage it wouldve been hard to build the same mystic aura around him

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the GWOAT

  • danpowers

    i wonder if people will remember james in the same way they remember jordan once he retires. i highly doubt that he will end up with such appreciations. the basketball world made jordan a god post mortum (basketball wise, may he live forever) and i doubt that james will ever be gloryfied in the same way. i cant imagine people arguing stupidly he couldve been mvp even in his rookie season as it just happened above relating to jordan lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000166716900 Anthony Darnello Taylor Jr.

    Sounds like the paper I wrote on MJ last month when I picked him as my person of the millennium.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    well Jordan was a much much much better rookie than James. But comparing them by years is remedial. they should be compared by age.
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    still doesn’t change that Jordan wasn’t a serious MVP candidate in 85, or that James is not in the GOAT conversation at this point.

  • danpowers

    nope it aint. if you compare them year by year james per is even way lower. if you put jordan’s latter years as a wizard into it, its still slightly better than james’.

  • danpowers

    uhm… you never saw jordan play except highlight tapes.

  • danpowers

    he might lose a step but then he will dish out more assists coz his court vision doesnt rely on his athletic abilities. plus what RKJ92 said

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509819249 Gaurav P.
  • Bubbles

    No, but you clearly have never seen Jordan before. Jordan put up better numbers in both the post and regular season. It is highly unlikely Lebron will put up better stats now that he is paired up with another player who could get his own shot and score efficiently as well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shooting.guard.319 Shooting Guard

    ‘…but not with the same intensity and fire…’ come on man lol

  • danpowers

    same goes with their age regarding PER but you aint a big fan of that number anyway so i didnt get to you with that

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    why would you compare them year by year? logically speaking, what sense does it make to compare a 19 year old LeBron to a 22 year old Jordan? And then following that trend throughout their career, like that actually makes sense?

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    it’s not like comparing them by age makes LeBron his equal, Jordan is still superior as an individual player (statistically speaking).

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=jordami01&y1=1992&p2=jamesle01&y2=2013

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Jordan was better lol, i don’t need PER to prove that. PER is just broken by itself. Especially when comparing players in 2 different Era’s, it seriously doesn’t make any sense to do.

  • danpowers

    indeed. it doesnt take a genius to see who the “better” player was. i guess most people here trying to sell james as the GOAT or “GOAT in the making” never saw jordan play except on highlight tapes

  • danpowers

    not only statistically…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    well it’s hard to say either way. at this point (age) in Jordan’s career he wasn’t even kinda in the GOAT conversation either.
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    and at this age, LeBron HAS accomplished MORE.

  • danpowers

    i know that james is pretty close to the max and that there aint many if any active players out there who play with the same drive. say what you want about jordans flaws or game, he was unique in that aspect and it doesnt look like anyone would meet that level of intensity and commitment anytime soon. dont you lol on me like that son

  • danpowers

    jordan had the advantage of being great in the 80s and 90s. awkward fashion back then looked funny. today it looks… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXw6znXPfy4

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yes, only statistically. look at everything else.

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    MVP? at age 28 – LeBron (3 w/ 1 coming — so 4) — Jordan (2)

    Championships & Finals MVP – LeBron (1 w/ 1 more chance at another — Jordan (1)

    Defensive Player of the Year – LeBron (0) — Jordan (1)

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    All NBA 1st Team – LeBron (6) — Jordan (5)

    All NBA Defensive 1st Team – LeBron (4) — Jordan (4)

    All Star MVP – LeBron (2) — Jordan (1)

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    See, at the age of 28, LeBron is still the more accomplished player.
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    What separated Jordan from everyone else, is that once he won, he never stopped.

  • Lauren Frank

    just before I saw the bank draft which said $8016, I didn‘t believe …that…my friends brother could realey making money part-time from there

    pretty old laptop.. there uncles cousin has done this for less than 18 months and by now repaid the dept on their house and bought a brand new Mercedes. we looked here, Big31.com

  • Slick Ric

    We all know Chris bosh deserves the MVP, not this bum. The Heat are undefeated without the distraction called Lebron.

  • kwamepooh

    lets practice there and their

  • ‘Bout It

    Oh really? You could score 10 points a game easily? Why aren’t you in the league yet? I’m sure that there are several teams who would like to sign a double-digit scorer. You should definitely get on that. NBA money is pretty good. Be sure to come back and let us know which team you’re playing for. I can’t wait to see you on tv.

  • pposse

    yeah but he still doesnt walk around with leather pants and leather shirt tops on

  • The Seed

    IF only WOW was a great player, then Lebron would not be wowed by winning his 4th MVP and suppose to have a GREAT player on his team. Shaq and Kobe, stopped each other. WOW can’t. Lebron did something, no other player at the top of his game traded himself to take less money as the MVP to go to another man’s town. He can win every MVP, for the rest of the career. This award is ludicrous now. example: Steve Nash. If Bron was not on the Heat, they are still a top 4 team in the East. Melo not on the Knicks, they are out of the playoffs. THis is how Steve won two awards. I can’t wait until the Pacers knock the Heat out.Then everyone will go back to calling him, his true name. Lebrickvp.

  • Mars

    Leave a message…Chris Paul is going to win MVP.

  • Lloyd

    Scoring titles are great, but I don’t think anyone judges a player by how many scoring titles they have. I mean is AI the 3rd greatest player all time?

    And 50 point games shouldn’t matter either. We’ll have to see who has the most career points at the end of LBJ’s career. But if we are using that logic, we could say that LBJ is definitely the better all around player since he already has more career triple-doubles.

    Again, LBJ isn’t finished yet so we’d have to calculate his PER then, but I like many others, have a problem using PER stats to validate a player’s status.

    I think the thing that should/will matter most in this discussion would be career points, assists, MVPs, and championships. We’d have to have this discussion at the end of LBJ’s career, but if he keeps his level of play consistent, it’s not difficult to imagine him as the GOAT.

  • Lloyd

    That would be amazing, but I never claimed I could. All I said was if LBJ can avoid serious injury, he can easily get six MVPs. Also, the only thing that can stop him from continuing on the career pace he’s on is an injury. In terms of overall domination of the game, do you see anyone who can compete against him or stop him in the near future? The only thing that could stop Lebron from continuing his amazing overall productivity is an injury. If that doesn’t happen, he could easily go down as the best ever.

  • Lloyd

    He does have a way to go, but it doesn’t look like anything can slow him down except for an injruy. Otherwise, I don’t see any anything else stopping him in the near future.

  • Lloyd

    Lebron doesn’t rely on his athleticism. Regardless, his explosiveness may fade, but size and strength won’t. And he’s been consistently improving his skills ever since he came into the L. If he improves his jumper and bit more and works on his footwork, there’s no limit to what he can do since the rest of his skill set is pretty polished

  • Lloyd

    I did…what would you like to know?

  • https://twitter.com/jasontichenor Mr. Wet

    I get it, it’s too early. But it is exciting to think about, that we might be watching the GOAT in his prime right at this moment. I don’t know what the future holds, I think Jordan’s greatness will continue until the people who grew up watching him are outnumbered by the people who grew up watching James.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    You said, quote, “Bar any serious injury, Lebron will end up with at LEAST six MVPs. He’s going to go down as the greatest. Only thing MJ will have on him by the time LBJ’s career is over is that he did it first.”.
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    So let me rephrase, “barring in any serious injury…..IT’S AMAZING THAT YOU CAN SEE INTO THE FUTURE”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Justine-Gonzalez/100000850211581 Justine Gonzalez

    That’s what you call statistics.. do you know math? better study it ok!

  • donnie ray

    maybe 8.

  • Lloyd

    It’s a prediction bud. My opinion. Or should everyone precede every comment with, “in my humble opinion…” for you to be able to sleep at night? If so, your conversation shouldn’t be with me, it should be with a shrink. If you weren’t trying to be petty and condescending, I thank you for believing in my capacity to have superpowers. Your innocent naivety is inspiring in this jaded age.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    What?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    You said he will if he doesn’t get injured. You didn’t say “I think he will”
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    You are proclaiming to tell the future.
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    You are just to smart to realize it.

  • JL

    Jordan’s fashion sense off the court was terrible! Suits that were way too big, jeans that were way too baggy. And he kept wearing the same stuff for years and years.

  • JL

    Who does?

  • Lbjgs1984

    Lebron 4 mvp in 5 seasons second player to do it in nba history get that 2nd ring to on his way ro joining all the greats of all time

  • JL

    Yeah, but in terms of NBA accomplishments if you look at age you are giving Lebron a head start since he started in the NBA at a younger age.

    With that said, LBJs definitely not the next Jordan. He’s like the next Karl Malone who shoots 3′s and dribble drives and passes better. Also has won a championship.

  • JL

    Clearly he’s just throwing something out. Kurtosis! Lloyd’s predictions reminds me of the not 1, not 2, not 3…. etc proclamation that is not going to come true. Guess like player like fan.
    Shaq should have won a lot more MVPs than he did. The voters get in the way.

  • initbruv

    Russell Westbrook.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i go by age because these guys aren’t going to break down like the guys in previous eras did. By years is gonna be messed up because these guys are having outrageous years (after 12 when typically guys decline) that previous eras just didn’t start to experience until the 90s and even then it was rare. .
    Kareem was really the only guy, and we don’t look at him by year.
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    He won finals MVP, 15 years apart. That should register as insane but, if anything, because of seasons played, he gets less credit.

  • Wesley Pipes

    Too bad, he dosen’t have a NBA championship to go along with that crap. Some guys broke into chris boshStrich’s house and stole all of his jewelry except the championship because everybody knows last season dosen’t count and that ring ain’t worth sheit! Fuq lebron, fuq wade, fuq bosh, fuq the miami heat. If you wanna be down with the heat then fuq you too, eric spoelstra fuq you too, pat riley fuq you too, commissioner stern fuq you too. I hate the miami heat and I hope they get tossed out of the playoffs by the Indiana Pacers so I can be a hater, have a good laugh, be able to smile and say I told you lebron is a illuminati marketable ploy.

  • JL

    Kareem’s career is unparalleled. This guy just doesn’t get the credit he deserves. Never in the best players to play conversations although he scored rebounded and played defense, not to mention won championships and produced at a high level in the league for the longest time.

    Anyway my point for the age thing is Lebron at 28 is in his 10th year, and Jordan at 28 is only in his 7th. If we are looking at player development, then I think age works best, but in terms of accomplishments, Jordan gets shorted 3 years in this scenario. Anyway. It still says Lebron is on track to match one of the greatest. His game right now is truly impeccable, sans his FT% in the low 70s.

  • RKJ92

    I stopped reading after the first sentence.

  • Buffy_Dibiase

    No, it’s actually because he was a strong intelligent Black man that and a Muslim.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Which would make Muhammad Ali the second greatest boxer of all time? smh. No, bye.

  • havoc33

    I suggest you read some more then

  • havoc33

    That last sentence is the key, and is why it will be difficult for anyone to touch MJ. 6/6 in the Finals, and 6 Finals MVP’s.

  • havoc33

    Totally agree. This stuff always happens when someone of a certain caliber comes along. People love to get excited and hype up what they are seeing, always looking to be part of the next great thing. It also happened to Kobe at a certain point. The media was running all sorts of articles comparing Kobe to MJ at this and that age, who was better.

  • africa punch

    We will be waiting patiently.

  • Drig

    Am I the only guy who finds it weird to think LBJ will have as many MVPs as Kobe, Shaq and Duncan put together?

    Props to LBJ for making that happen.

  • pposse
  • pposse

    lol fine MJ doesn’t have the greatest fashion sense, but thats okay, cause off the court the fans and media were more interested in his golf game, or baseball interest, and his gambling ways. Or how he could smoke a cigar before gametime and still be as lethal. There’s that “it” factor.

    The players nowadays are pretty boring and do some real stupid stuff with their free time such as dressing themselves like idiots. And even when they don’t dress like clowns you have guys like Carmello Anthony hiring artists to get a painting of himself made and put up in his living room.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=carmelo+anthony+painting+of+himself&hl=en&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS473US473&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=hQlkUbD_NJbj4AO_moAo&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=915#imgrc=aM-iz3sd2uBq_M%3A%3BFHbukbrqfH09cM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fl2.yimg.com%252Fbt%252Fapi%252Fres%252F1.2%252Fkbx3O9vI08zyRzOeECrz_w–%252FYXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ–%252Fhttp%253A%252F%252Fmedia.zenfs.com%252Fen%252Fblogs%252Fsptusnbaexperts%252FWe-are-not-lying.-Image-courtesy-of-www.gerbenfineart.com_.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fsports.yahoo.com%252Fblogs%252Fnba-ball-dont-lie%252Fcarmelo-anthony-giant-carmelo-anthony-painting-hanging-over-172331234.html%3B630%3B439

  • danpowers

    as a wizard? that would explain your statement. sorry sir, so far lebron didnt do anything to surpass jordan at comparable points in their carreers and nothing indicates that lebron james is about to catch up. there is no doubt that james is the best active player and probably about to become one of the greatest of all time. maybe even the second best. but not really on jordans level. it could be argued that their impact on offense is about the same (which i personally dont see like that) but on defense jordan was just on his own level. he even forced opposing offenses to change their gameplan as a shooting guard! name any other wing player ever who had that impact on games defensively, just one. you wont find anyone, not even james.

  • zues

    Jordan is one of the worst dressed human beings in the history of the species. If you don’t realize this, I shutter to think of what your wardrobe looks like.

  • Lorne

    He’s not even athlete of the millennium. He played his sport well, but when he dies he will not be remembered for standing for anything. Ali took stances. In a way, guys like Nash are greater people because they take such strong positions against all forms of discrimination. Tell us what Jordan believes in besides his own greatness as a ball player.

  • danpowers

    to me that looked way better than any slim fits or skinny jeans. men just shouldnt wear tight stuff.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    losing in the finals is not going to hurt LeBron’s legacy. Losing in the finals is better than losing in the conference finals or second round, for example. And Jordan seemed like a pro at losing before the end of conference play for a little while there.

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    it’s just that once he won one, he couldn’t be beat. Kind of like the famous sayings, “now he’s got a taste of blood” — “it’s not about getting to the top, it’s about staying there” – if you’ve proven that at your best you are unbeatable, then you are putting yourself in the GOAT conversation.

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    ^ another reason why i have never been a fan of the “Kobe can catch Jordan” belief system.

  • solo

    stfu

  • havoc33

    I hear what you’re saying, and in a way it’s not far off from what I already stated. You’re just looking at it from a different perspective. If Lebron already had been a double Finals MVP by now, then the situation would have already been different, wouldn’t it? With your logic we are assuming that we are only at the very start of Lebron’s peak. It very well could be possible of course, but it’s no guarantee that he will get another 4-5 chances on the biggest stage of them all. If he only wins another two rings, then yeah I’d say his previous losses in the Finals will ultimately end up hurting his legacy. The man is a machine though, and has the advantages of modern medicine on his side.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    explain how it would hurt his legacy? think this through. in order to hurt his legacy, you’d have to be able to say, “he’s not this good because of this” — when really, LeBron losing in the finals, twice, doesn’t lower him past guys that he was better than. You don’t say, “BUT HE’S WORSE THAN CLYDE DREXLER BECAUSE HE LOST IN THE FINALS TWICE, AND CLYDE ONLY LOST ONCE!!!!” – LeBron is where LeBron is all-time either way. If he doesn’t win around 6 titles, no matter how many time’s he lost first, he won’t be in the Jordan conversation. Where he lost isn’t going to be what matters, it’s just that he didn’t win enough.

  • Lloyd

    I didn’t think I had to explicitly say that it’s an opinion rather than a fact, since it should be obvious that I can’t tell the future to even the simplest of minds. But for your benefit brother, here it is: “Bar any serious injury, I THINK Lebron will end up with at LEAST six MVPs.” Hopefully this gives you some peace in your journey to be correct to the point of being condescendingly anal. Good luck in trying to win the internet.

  • Lloyd

    Nope I grew up watching Jordan friend. He’s my favorite player. So far, age wise they’d be pretty comparable. If Lebron continues on this path for the next 5 years, his accolades will surpass Jordan’s. We have to take into account that Lebon came straight out of HS and most likely won’t take time off to pursue other professional sporting careers as well, so he will have a longer playing career. He may take longer to do it, but he most likely will pass Jordan in many statiscal categories. And Lebron’s a monster on defence so I don’t know what you’re getting at with that. I’d say offensive skills I’d give MJ the edge, but defensively Lebron due to superior athletic ability and size, and the accompanying versatility it brings.

  • danpowers

    that may give bron a capability to be a better overall defender and yes, he is in another category because of his size, but jordan did his job on other 2 guards. you wont see another 2 guard shutting down other guards and playing the passing lanes, playing great help defense in the back then zone-less nba, forcing other teams to run plays on the jordan-less side. you wont find that commitment by bron constantly on jordans level. they surely have different task regarding their different positions but still – jordan was superior in that aspect, too.

    james will most likely surpass him in most totals, maybe even in all totals, but does that make him GOAT? nah man, jordan mad a leap as a player and sports figure at about the age of 28/29 to an overhuman level. lebron james is also in a class of his own, just not with the same killer instinct and heroics as jordan had. neither does he put his stamp on the game of basketball as jordan did. hes pretty close tho, just not on the same level

  • robb

    I think you’re too young to understand MJ’s impact so we’ll leave it at that.

  • Lloyd

    What you’re talking about is MJ’s mentality. His tenacity on the defensive end just came from his relentless desire to win. He’d do anything to do so, including not allowing his defensive assignment to breathe. We’ve seen more of the winning mentality from Lebron last year and this year as well. We’ll see if he can have that edge consistently, but MJ definitely had that in spades.

    Jordan was a defensive monster who could shut down any given guard, but Lebron can shut down a superstar at ANY position. Jordan was a great individual defender because he had to be. Defenses have gotten more sophisticated over the years and there’s more focus on team and help defense now than back then. LBJ doesn’t have to be as dominant a lockdown defender, even though he’s capable of doing it as we’ve seen in glimpses. Overall defensive ability, Lebron still beats out MJ due to his size, freak athleticism, and versatility though.

    James will go down as the greatest to ever play if he keeps this pace up. He’s just 28. MJ had a superior brand. His image transcended basketball and he was a cultural as well as a basketball icon. He helped put the NBA on the map. That speaks a lot to when he played as well as his marketability. If Lebron came first and MJ was playing now, we may be having an entirely different conversation. That’s just speculation though. Regardless, I’d say that Lebron goes down as the best to play the game, but Jordan was the most impactful. To each their own.

  • danpowers

    i agree to what you say to some extent but greatness isnt about what somebody is capable of doing. it is more about what somebody actually does. i already said that the requierements of both positions and times are a little bit different. even jordan didnt have to be that dominant consistently. he couldve also layed back a little and shift some gears up when it counts, like kobe bryant does. but he didnt, he put up a monstrous persomance on d paired up with a relentless dominance on offense. lebron james does what you say but to put him on the same level as jordan, he wouldve have to shut down his matchups all the time which he doesnt.

    if greatness would be a matter of only skill and capability kobe bryant would be the undisputed greatest of all time. but body, mental toughness, competativeness and how guys use their skills. as long as nobody uses his skills to the max all the time he wont reach jordans greatness. i remember one quote about him from someone saying “jordan would drive home his kids from school as if it was game 7 of the nba finals” and this is exactly what seperates him from the rest and will most likely always seperate him from the rest of the pack.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000166716900 Anthony Darnello Taylor Jr.

    I understand this, but I had to pick my person not THE person so so while I agree with what you say I also offer that all those other guys were all people who (except Nash) who were too commonly used. And Jordan did more for basketball than just playing the sport. And he has to be one of the most popular people in the history of the planet.

  • blbrrnnn

    He can do it. he’s the best player in the worl right now

  • jd

    This guy is amazing. He keeps going, its gonna be him and MJ

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