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Sunday, June 2nd, 2013 at 7:25 pm  |  79 responses

Roy Hibbert Fined $75,000 for Vulgar Language After Game 6


As expected, the NBA did not look too kindly upon Roy Hibbert’s salty, homophobic comments to the press after the Pacers’ Game 6 triumph. The big fella is now $75K lighter in the wallet, per the press release: “Indiana Pacers center Roy Hibbert has been fined $75,000 by the NBA for using inappropriate and vulgar language during postgame interviews following the Pacers’ 91-77 victory over the Miami Heat in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals at Bankers Life Fieldhouse. ‘While Roy has issued an apology, which is no doubt sincere, a fine is necessary to reinforce that such offensive comments will not be tolerated by the NBA,’ said NBA Commissioner David Stern.”

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  • http://www.netstakeover.com/ JetSkiJohnson

    They should do something useful with the money they collect from fines and help pay off college tuition.

  • AndyK415

    I think it may go right to charity like it does in the NFL.

  • dfa

    It goes to NBA Cares.

  • danpowers

    b*tch please

  • TV63

    How much fine for the F bomb?

  • https://twitter.com/jasontichenor Mr. Wet

    I think it’s all encompasing.

  • pposse

    is Hibbert allowed by tax law to write off this fine as a charitable donation when he files his 2013 taxes next year?

  • roscoe

    do the players get a tax write off?

  • theDankerNuggets

    really? 75,000 for saying “no homo.” That seems almost silly

  • underdog

    So a flop costs 5k, and the word “motherf**ker” 75k? It doesn’t seem right to me. Both flopping and cursing should be fined all right, it’s just the proportion what seems a bit off to me.

  • Max

    He also said something else, motherf*cker.

  • Max

    Hibs has no problem paying that with the contract he has.

  • SomeLazyKid

    I wonder if this fine well hold him back from making similar statements in the future. I know this is suppose to be a disciplinary action, but all I see is just another transaction for choice speech. But, it is warranted, the world doesn’t need more kids going around saying no homo, and calling each other motherf*ckers without knowing there is a consequence that comes with the wording. Good job, Stern, but that price is a little steep, but I guess there isn’t really a precedent for the term no homo haha

  • Mike From Spain

    Did he get a 2×1 deal?

  • Dfrance

    He said m-effer so there you have it.

  • Love The Game

    Good thing you don’t get fined for stuff like this in regular life. I’d be living on the street.

  • sonic

    No hate speech should be tolerated by the NBA and he should be suspended.

    More than issuing fines, the NBA should be pro-active in combatting homophobia within the players and the fans. Or else it looks like it doesn’t really care about its gay/bi players and fans.

    The NBA could be a force for real change.

  • Dfrance

    So…. when do they announce Lebron getting hit with another flopping fine?

  • Alwx80

    Fine this homos

  • mike

    Do people really find “No homo” seriously offensive? The term has been widely used for several years now, and never i seen or heard of any encounter where people were hurt or spoke out against it. I feel his statement was mostly just plain inappropriate , due to its sexual suggestivity ( kinda like saying “thats what she said” ) , and less likely to due its hateful connotations.

  • Dagger

    If I responded to this in ebonics and wrote (no black) – as I was tempted to do – would that seem offensive? Of course. So, do the math.

  • sonic

    People do find it “seriously offensive”. I’m curious to know, what level of hate speech should be tolerated by the NBA?

    To clear it up for people reading this, “no homo” is a homophobic thing to say. It sets up being gay as something negative, something to be denied and something to be against. And Roy Hibbert should’ve known better, but he has apologised.

  • pposse

    i did a google search on speeding tickets and whether you can write those off and learned that no fines and or punitive damages can’t be written off whether they are from personal or business purposes.

    Thats sucks. So basically Hibbert still has to pay whatever state/federal income tax on the 75k earning, lose the money, give it to the NBA which will be able to write off the 75k as a charitable donation. that has to sting a little, he lost 75k plus around like 20-40k which represents uncle sams portion of that earned money.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni D dot Sanchez

    respect

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni D dot Sanchez

    fvck outta here. NBA needs to focus on basketball, not shoving beliefs down the fans throats

  • sonic

    So you think they should ditch the “NBA Cares” program?

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni D dot Sanchez

    anything for the kids is awesome. but as far as lifestyle opinions, the L needs to quiet all that noise up

  • bike

    Wonder how they determine the amount. So Stern is sitting down with a bunch of nba execs and says “OK, lets see, ‘no homo’ nails him for $74,999 and let’s tack on a buck for ‘motherfuc*ers’. How’s that sound?”

  • sonic

    Lifestyle “opinions”, what are you talking about?

    I think the NBA has a chance to make a stand against hate-speech, and in no uncertain terms support the rights of minorities. The anti-Asian racism that Jeremy Lin suffered shows that not all is rosy in the NBA garden, however advanced it thinks it is.

    Tackling homophobia is part of that.

  • sonic

    Interesting question. Kobe got $100K fine for screaming homophobic abuse at a ref, maybe less for a press conference?

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni D dot Sanchez

    lifestyle opinions on any matter.

    theres racism, homophobia & and anything else under the moon.

    people should love/hate, accept,decline anything they want without the world jumping on their backs.

  • sonic

    Firstly, Roy Hibbert’s comment wasn’t an “opinion”, it was a homophobic slur. He has apologised for it.

    Secondly, in private people can believe/think what they want. In a press conference, with NBA logos arranged behind them it’s not a surprise the association gets upset. The NBA does not and will not provide a platform for bigoted language, clearly!

    Whether you like it or not, the NBA has some sort of anti-hate speech policy. As does every reputable high-profile organisation. If the NBA didn’t do anything, where is the line drawn on ANY hate speech?

  • mike

    I somewhat see the point you are making… although, ebonics is used by many people other than african americans… depending on your region, hispanics, asians and whites , may speak in ebonics. Are you a homosexual dagger? i just don’t see how distancing yourself from a statement is a offensive. Just because you say “im not ___” does not mean you think of ____ in a negative manner. I now see and accept the fact that it is hurtful to people, and will not use it. Ive been listening to Cam and Dipset for years , and never felt they were saying anything hateful. I accept it , but im more interested in understanding it

  • Brighton Thomas

    How is HIM SAYING HE’S NOT A HOMOSEXUAL “hate speech???? Some bent minds emerging around this sh1t. Effin Ridiculous.

  • Brighton Thomas

    No it wasn’t wasn’t.. JUMP into 2013 and learn something. “No HOMO” isn’t ANTI GAY PEOPLE AT ALL. It simply means HE’s NOT Homosexual. PERIOD. Grow up. Put your BIG KID drawers on and face the world in a realistic way. All this damn whining is sickening. If ya’ll were my kids you’d be send to your damn room

  • sonic

    It’s referring to homosexuality as something derogatory that he doesn’t want to be linked to. And laughing at it.

    Why was Hibbert anxious to make sure no-one thought he was gay, if he didn’t think that being gay was a negative thing to be?

  • Brighton Thomas

    No it’s not unless you’re a spineless wimp. It’s saying HE’S NOT a HOMOSEXUAL. I could crack a joke… and said “I’m no comedian” would my saying that mean I HATE COMEDIANS? No. Not at all.
    What have you done about the rampant REAL hate speech that is posted all over the internet daily.. and HATE GROUPS that march the streets? Right like every other person jumping on this bandwagon- NONE of the long standing HATE and discrimination mattered, until you figured you could USE it, ot buy into it- to FURTHER your own cause. Problem is.. YOU all WARP shi1t- so you have something to whine about. There was NOTHING hateful in what he said. Nothing PERIOD.

  • sonic

    It is homophobic. “No homo” is slang used to assure people that there was no gay “intent” in whatever action preceded. To distance that person from “gayness”, which they (and others) perceive as inherently negative. It’s not a celebration of being gay, but an attack on it. That’s why it’s homophobic.

    It’s hard to come-up with a parallel, but Dagger’s example is quite good below.

    I would hope you would applaud your childrens desire to see a world free of hate-speech and bigotry.

  • sonic

    I’m not sure which “cause” you’re talking about Brighton.

    Comedians aren’t a minority group by any sane definition, and haven’t suffered from oppression/abuse throughout history.

    Your analogy was atrocious!

  • Brighton Thomas

    I see I made my point to demonstrate how absurd your position is.. the parallel is that the MEANING behind what was said was he same — and coming from the SAME spot. You’ve warped it to mean something it doesn’t. Call it what you want.. and you know what cause… don’t continue to play dumb…

  • Brighton Thomas

    I wouldn’t care. There’s BIGGER fish to fry, so to speak. In fact I would find that humorous.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni D dot Sanchez

    its not homophobic slur, sensitive sally

  • Brighton Thomas

    That comment in itself wouldn’t have EVER got him fined 75000 NEVER

  • sonic

    The structure is the same but the meaning is completely different. Hibbert didn’t say “No homo” because he dispassionately wanted it on the record that he isn’t gay! He said it because he obviously thought at that time, a homophobic comment was appropriate.

    You do understand that “No homo” is a derogatory phrase? A phrase that comes from fear and ignorance?

  • sonic

    It *is* a homophobic slur.

    There’s no need to start name-calling, please see the SLAM Online discussion rules.

  • Max

    Hence the also.
    Both of them together cost him 75k.

  • Brighton Thomas

    Calling someone “homophobic” is also name calling and for the most part comes from a discriminatory place. If you don’t think NAME CALLING is okay- YOU don’t do it either.

  • sonic

    I’ve said “No homo” is a homophobic statement but I haven’t called anyone homophobic. If I have, please provide the evidence.

    In fairness to Hibbert, I’ve only discussed the homophobic phrase “No homo” NOT whether Hibbert is homophobic himself.

  • Brighton Thomas

    Yeah okay, so we’re all stupid now, Anyone that suggests someone’s behavior is coming from a “homophobic place” is indirectly calling that person a homophobe.
    I notice that title tossed around at will, and no one says anything about it. It’s a LABEL, and often it’s placed on people unjustifiabley

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni D dot Sanchez

    you def are a sissy

  • sonic

    I didn’t say anyone was stupid. I’m glad to see you’re not gonna pretend I said things when I didn’t.

    Hibbert has apologised for his comment, which was the correct thing to do. It was a mistake to say “no homo”. Are you gonna teach your children otherwise?

  • sonic

    I’m not sure you read the SLAM online discussion rules.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni D dot Sanchez

    youz ghey

  • sonic

    youz rethuglican.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni D dot Sanchez

    you fa6

  • Slick ric

    I’m sure its offensive to black people when Homo’s try to equate themselves to blacks.

  • Brighton Thomas

    I’m going to teach my kids that in America, we have a right to say what we want (as long as it’s not hateful- which his comment wasn’t) , and that the government is now trying to deny us those rights. I
    These guys HAVE to apologize or their career is on the line. The agenda- has successfully created a situation in which people in affect are forced to LIE/pretend OR lose their livelihood. At the end of the day guess what? THE PEOPLE they force to apologize, STILL feel the exact same way— problem is, now they’re stifling their true feelings. Stifling feelings eventually results in an eruption. It’s just a matter of time.

  • sonic

    It IS hateful to use homophobic slang. If you watch the video, Hibbert laughs after he says “No homo”. He was laughing at the expense of gay people. “Homo” itself is a derogatory slang word!

    Not sure about “the government” denying the right to free speech, have you seen the state of cable news?

    How do you know that Hibbert still feels the same way? Isn’t it also possible that he has learnt that he shouldn’t engage in homophobic speech, not because of the trouble it causes but because it’s the moral thing to do?

    “It’s just a matter of time” – these are very loaded comments you are making, have you been the target of homophobic bullying yourself?

  • Brighton Thomas

    No, but I certainly have been a target or discrimination. My people have for years. People like you have never spoke up, until it works with your own warped agenda.
    And it certainly is..a matter of time. When you force people to pretend and live a lie, at the expense of their religious or personal beliefs. something hits the fan at some point.

  • Brighton Thomas

    And re “homophobic speech”— didn’t happen. So what he would be realizing is that his job is on the line, because we have the Agenda Police trying to dictate speech– in an increasingly warped society

  • sonic

    Not really sure what “people like you” means!

  • Lloyd

    You think Roy Hibbert said it to discriminate and hate homosexuals? Words only have the meanings we attribute to them. Look at the intention of the individual and the context of the words he says. Don’t lable anything to do with homosexuality that’s not praising it as “hate speech”. It’s just a joke phrase, was said to be that, and now is blown way out of proportion. Regardless of the origination of the phrase and the intent by the original users, people who say it’s hate speech just continue to weaponize it to try and make it offensive. Accept it as a poorly phrased sexual innuendo based joke and move on.

    Was it poor taste to use it in a press conference? Yes, but as is the case with any “dirty” joke.

    And Hibbert apologizing is a PR move. If I was going to find anything offensive about this entire thing, it’d be that he reached out to Jason Collins, the poster boy for homosexuality at the moment, as a blatant public reconciliatory gesture. It’s like saying, “I’m not homophobic, I want to be friends with a gay person”.

  • sonic

    I’m not sure why HIbbert said it, I’m not a mind reader. Judging by his immediate reaction, I would guess he thought it would be funny. “No homo” is a derogatory, homophobic phrase and should be exposed as such ceaselessly.

    It is not acceptable to use a person’s minority status as a punchline, nor is it acceptable to refer to it in a derogatory way.

    The sincerity or not of Hibberts apology is an interesting point. I would personally hope that as a young guy, he would feel embarrassed about espousing any homophobic views.

    On a slightly separate point, and not to excuse what HIbbert said in any way, I think the whole players at press conference thing is ridiculous. They seem to be set-up to trip up players, advance our understanding of basketball not one iota and allow D-Wade to inflict fashion disasters on innocent minds.

  • Lloyd

    No mind reading, just looking at the phrase as he uttered it contextually, tone of voice, body language, etc. you can tell he meant it as a joke.

    Again, don’t toss around “homophobic”. The phrase itself is not homophobic, the meaning you may attach to it is. The meaning should be taken from Hibbert’s intent when it was said, not what the original user of the phrase intended. The joke “that’s what she said” is comparative to me, but is not anti-women. We should all agree it was just a joke in poor taste on his part.

    No way to tell, but just the rush of all his reconciliatory moves would speak to the prowess of Hibbert’s PR guy rather than Hibbert himself.

    For sure. To stick a microphone into a player’s face directly after the intensity of a game and bombard them with questions that they are forced to answer on the spot with no prior knowledge or prep time is ridiculous. Then to have those words, which may have been said in passing and unintentionally, dissected by the media and scrutinzed by the public is just added pressure. On top of that, any slip of the tongue could be fined by the league if they don’t agree with what’s said. (If the league makes it mandatory to have press conferences, the guys should have the freedom to say whatever they want in that forum)

    Haha nothing any player can say could offend me more than Wade’s and Westbrook’s shirts. Dwight Howard could walk out naked and answer questions straight faced about his upcoming free agency for hours and I’d be more understanding of that than Wade and Westbrook’s fashion choices.

  • sonic

    Just the word “homo” is derogatory and offensive. Type in define:homo into a search engine. So please, no more pretending that “No homo” isn’t offensive and homophobic. Any other analysis of “No homo” is using some sort of fringe, extremist dictionary.

    It was a homophobic phrase, used casually. Which is not good.

  • Brighton Thomas

    When homosexuals stop calling themselves “QUEER” Holler back about “HOMO” being derogative….

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    You’re reeeeeeally dumb. Like really. Wow you are stupid.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    People are f*cking stupid. Thank you for trying.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    people, as in not you. you are smart. Unlike Brighton.

  • Teddy-the-BearTeddy-the-Bear

    people, as in not you. you are smart. Unlike Brighton.

    Disqus is f*cked up right now, sorry for he double posts.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Words have an objective meaning REGARDLESS of whether the speaker intended to be homophobic or not. I have no idea why you find this difficult to understand. If some guy says something racist or equally offensive, but doesn’t know that it isn’t racist, that doesn’t mean it’s NOT racist or that people shouldn’t be offended by it. White people don’t know when they’re being racist, and men often don’t realize that they’re being sexist; that doesn’t mean people of color and/or women shouldn’t be offended when they hear some sh!t that is BLATANTLY bigoted.

    I bring up race not to suggest that anti-gay discrimination is the same as racial discrimination, but to show you that bigots (like you) use the SAME bullsh!t, half-@ssed excuses to justify their bigoted bullsh!t.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    THE WHOLE POINT OF THE JOKE IS THAT IT’S HOMOPHOBIC. JUST BECAUSE YOU PERSONALLY MIGHT NOT H@TE GAY PEOPLE DOESN’T CHANGE THE MEANING OF THE JOKE. YOU ARE A F*CKING DUMB@SS WHO DESERVES TO BE TOLD THAT IN ALL CAPS.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Dude, are you stupid? Just because one group is more discriminated against than the other doesn’t mean the other group isn’t discriminated against. That’s just like seeing someone getting treatment for a broken nose and saying: “People who have broken noses shouldn’t be given treatment because LOOK AT ALL THESE OTHER DUDES WHO ARE PARAPALEGICS, STOP COMPARING BROKEN NOSES TO PARALYSIS!”

    It’s a stupid, absolutely f*cking bunk argument.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Holy sh!t you’re a f*cking idiot. Funny you’re talking about kids when you actually sound like a goddamn child who sniffs glue in class.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I already explained that the phrase itself IS homophobic because that’s the entire point of the joke. I know you have a hard time understanding wtf analogies are, but I keep bringing race up not to suggest that racism and anti-gay discrimination are the same (although the same power structure is responsible for both), but to show you just how similar the strategies are for people who defend bigotry, whether it’s sexism or racism or homophobia.

    And if someone made a racist joke I would jump down their throat too. It’s called not being a f*cking bigot.

    If a white guy dresses up in black face but doesn’t realize that it’s racist, does it mean black face isn’t f*cking racist? OF COURSE NOT. The point is that whether or not the speaker intends to be a bigot is irrelevant when the ACTUAL JOKE IS BIGOTED.

    Trying to deny that no homo isn’t homophobic is like saying the word f*ggot isn’t homophobic either, when it’s a goddamn gay slur. The reason the joke is funny to people is because of it’s homophobia–the fear of being assumed as gay… It’s schoolyard humor. You might as well deny that the sky is blue or that evolution doesn’t exist too, while you’re at it.

    PS: All “no homo” jokes could be “that’s what she said” jokes instead… so if it was really about just pointing out a sexual innuendo, you could just say “that’s what she said”.

    PPS: That’s what she said IS actually misogynistic. But that’s for another time.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    You seriously need to stop using black oppression as an excuse to be a f*cking homophobe.

    Just because one group is more discriminated
    against than the other, doesn’t mean the other group isn’t ALSO discriminated
    against.

    As someone who’s ALSO dealt with racism/white supremacy all his life, I can safely say that your nonsense about homophobia is a spitting image of the logic of clueless white people when it comes to racism.

    In fact, if you were really committed to ending racism, you’d know by now that racism and homophobia is perpetuated by the same ruling class in America.

    What you’re doing is like seeing someone with a broken nose, and going: “People who have broken noses shouldn’t be given
    treatment because LOOK AT ALL THESE OTHER DUDES WHO ARE PARAPALEGICS,
    STOP COMPARING BROKEN NOSES TO PARALYSIS! GET OUT OF THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW.”

    This attitude is bunk and absolutely f*cking shameful. It’s also incredibly childish.

  • Brighton Thomas

    Brighton keeps it real. I won’t lose my job if I’m honest. These pro players have to compromise their integrity and in some cases religious convictions… to appease a growing group of spineless whiny wimps. You’d rather people LIE, than keep it real. Why is it wrong to be on the record, that he’s NOT GAY? That doesn’t mean he hates GAYS- it means HE’S NOT GAY and wants that to be known. That’s his right. The agenda honestly sicken me. It’s not about you all wanting equal rights, you WANT more rights and MORE protection than any other group, and it’s happening. Now people can’t say what they want without absurd twist being made.

  • Brighton Thomas

    Okay so name calling is okay with you? Then you must think that what Hibbert did was fine.. and he didn’t even call anyone names :! Why you on here acting like what he was wrong, when YOUR OWN ACTIONS say different?

  • Brighton Thomas

    You lost my attention at using the “word” HOMOPHOBE- it’s not something I recognize as a VALID word. It’s a LIE…. No one FEARS homosexuals… PHOBIA- FEAR.. so the rest of your absurd comment, is null and void.
    If what you’re saying is true. Race over to a HATE site.. one of the many KKK or NEO NAZI sites on the net, and show the same passion about black people’s rights…which haven’t EVER been addressed adequately… then HOLLER BACK.
    Let me know when you’ve completed that task.

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