Wednesday, July 3rd, 2013 at 10:40 am  |  26 responses

Detroit Pistons Reportedly Offered Two Players for Rudy Gay

The Detroit Pistons haven’t yet had any luck in the free agent market, but they continue to swing for the fences. According to ESPN, the Pistons have offered Rodney Stuckey and Charlie Villanueva’s expiring deals to the Toronto Raptors for forward Rudy Gay: “The Detroit Pistons were among the bidders for forward Rudy Gay when the Memphis Grizzlies made him available last season and they are once again going after him now that there’s been a management changeover in Toronto. [...] Stuckey and Villanueva are both scheduled to make $8.5 million this season and Gay has two years and $37 million left on his contract. Gay averaged 19.5 points on 43 percent shooting in 33 games after a midseason trade sent him to Toronto. The Raptors have already made one cap-clearing trade this week, shipping off Andrea Bargnani and the $23 million left on his deal to the New York Knicks with an eye toward cleaning their books following the 2013-14 season. New Toronto general manager Masai Ujiri is sending signals that he intends to tear down much of the Raptors’ bloated payroll and moving Gay could be part of that plan.”

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  • Junior Taylor

    I have always been a huge fan of Gay’s talents but I don’t think he will ever fulfill his potential. The guy should be in running for making the all-star team as a reserve every season but something seems to be lacking.

  • melomangg

    DO THIS… we have to tank this season. Cleveland got 1st pick when Bron was drafted, bulls got first pick when rose was drafted… its only right we get the first pick for Wiggins

  • Mike From Spain

    Tsk tsk Minnesota a better fit, he’d be great next to Love


    please take him Detroit. and an soon as we find a suitable place for Derozan, he’s gone too. raptors nation is diving in head first in tank land for Wiggins

  • Dev

    Alot of teams tryna tank for that draft next year smdh

  • Dev

    I agree and its prolly the drive. Most guys that have all that talent dont have MJ’s or Kobe’s will to still get better every year

  • MikeC.

    Problem with Raps having cap space is that no FAs are lining up to play there. They have to overpay everyone, which means they’ll be right back in the same place in a couple years. Capped out because they have a bunch of role players making starter and star money. It’s a shame because TO is a beautiful city and Raps owners have some of the deepest pockets in the L. Raps even have great fans, which is more than can be said for some teams.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    Agreed. He has all of the tools to be an elite 2-way player. Height, length, mobility, and excellent athleticism. And his handle and mid-range game are very solid for his size.

    I think he just doesn’t have the drive to be elite. His reputation of having questionable drive has followed him from high school, to university, and into the NBA.

    I have no issues with the Raps tanking because I don’t see them getting past the first round of the playoffs with the core group they currently have.

  • Dagger

    I disagree with this assumption. The city and the wealth of the organization can attract high-level management, and we’ve seen that happen in the past year. Good management can then identify good draft picks, and those draft picks, in turn, can contribute to a good team. At that point you might be able to get prized free agents. It’s the blueprint followed by teams like the Spurs or the Thunder, which established elite teams in less desirable markets.

    Of course, Toronto is a huge market, and I’m not sure if I even buy the idea that free agents don’t want to sign here. Guys that are traded here often want to stay – Vince resigned, as did Bosh, and Gay wants to – and when they leave it’s usually because the team doesn’t win and the organization is rotten (as it was in the past). Turkoglu signed here as well by spurning Portland (if only he hadn’t). No, Lebron isn’t heading north any time soon, but I do think that the free agent issue is overstated.

  • Dagger

    If the Pistons throw in a pick, this would be a great move for the Raptors, and it sucks because Gay can be a lot of fun to watch. A lot of teams will be tanking next season, however, and losing a ton of games won’t guarantee a really high draft pick like it would in most years.

  • LakeShow

    Listen, we’re ALL for the Gay, Love combo…

  • spit hot fiyah

    i put josh smith in the same category

  • spit hot fiyah

    true, that’s why he dropped in the draft. in a weird way he is guy who hasn’t fulfilled his potential but still surpassed expectations. Players selected before gay in 06: bargnani, adam morrison, tyrus thomas, shelden williams, randy foye (and aldridge and b roy)

  • spit hot fiyah

    luther head

  • spit hot fiyah

    and harden

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    I think both of you bring up good points.

    I don’t think it’s that FA do not want to sign in Toronto, I think it’s that elite players do not want to spend their prime years on any franchise with a losing culture such as the ones Colangelo and Grunwald created.

    The Raps’ only chance to join the NBA’s elite is to shed bad contracts and build through the draft. The problem is that their roster will consistently have them finishing between 8-10 in the east, which won’t get them a top 3 pick unless trades such as Gay for expiring contracts happen.

  • interlagos

    Stuckey and Villanueva are productive. Gay is an unproductive volume shooter. I see Ujiri, who was already able to trade the worst starter in the league (Bargnani), going for this one.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    William Shafter! Mick Shagger!! DAVID COPPAFEEL!!!

    Oh my bad, I thought we were just naming male stripper names . . .

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    Yeah, he’s definitely a valuable talent who puts up solid numbers.
    I think people just see the vast potential and inflated contract and judge him based off of that.

  • http://twitter.com/niQknacks niQ

    And (Ramon) Sessions.

  • LakeShow

    You just said Charlie V is more productive than Rudy Gay.

    He averaged 7 points on 37% shooting and attempted more 3′s than 2′s as a power forward while grabbing 3.5 boards a game…. GTFO

  • Mars

    Essentially wiggins is an 18 yr old version of Rudy Gay. I remember a certain Harrison Barnes coming into college heavily hyped and needed time to develop but as we all have seen the hype was warranted. Rudy Gay is official, but he suffers from Josh Smith, aka never grow up aka that wiz khalifa. This would be a steal for Detroit. Look at this lineup: Gay, Knight, Monroe, Drummond and Josh Smith lol or snag Iguodala

  • interlagos

    I stand corrected. I may have had him mized up a bit with Deng.

  • Feez_22

    I think it’s a fair move on both sides. The raptors attract two expirings who both aren’t going to win a bunch of games for the raptors (which means you will get a possibly high pick in one of the most anticipated drafts in years) and will have capspace to possibly sign a good player or 2 in 2014. Also, they can remove rudy who isn’t really a good compliment to derozan to begin with (both need the ball, both aren’t really efficient, etc)

    The pistons get to acquire the services of a long, athletic 3 to pair with their 6’5 2 guard they drafted in the lottery this yr (dumars has stressed getting long athletic wingmen that can shoot to compete). Rudy gets to play with monroe/drummond and since the pistons don’t have a good pg, he can basically take all the shots he wants (lol). This may push the pistons to the playoffs if they attain a good pg in the offseason which furthers the raptor’s chances at tanking lol.

  • LakeShow

    All is forgiven.

  • Mike From Spain

    Apart from the draft, who will be out there as FA in summer 2014? getting the expirings frees up a ton of cap space for Toronto… that would make sense to make a run at a top FA