Friday, July 26th, 2013 at 1:10 pm  |  63 responses

NBA Players Reportedly Linked to Biogenesis PED Scandal

According to former Biogenesis employee Porter Fischer, at least one NBA player was supplied with performance-enhancing drugs from the Miami clinic’s founder Tony Bosch. So far, no names have surfaced. Per ESPN: “Porter Fischer is the man who brought the Biogenesis scandal public, by providing documents to a Miami newspaper that named MLB players as PED clients. ‘This isn’t a 2013 thing or a 2012 thing; some of these people have been on the books since 2009,’ Fischer said. Fischer said he and associates have identified athletes from the NBA, NCAA, professional boxing, tennis and MMA, in addition to other professional baseball players who have not yet been identified. As far as he knows, Fischer said, Bosch had no clients from the NFL or NHL. He said the only sports entity he has heard from was Major League Baseball. The athletes not yet publicly named come from the documents Fischer took from the clinic, documents he said another employee asked him to take for safekeeping. The number of athletes involved with the clinic, based on what he saw and heard during his time with Biogenesis, is far more than people realize, he said. ‘In just the four years that I know, it’s got to be well over a hundred, easy,’ he said. ‘It’s almost scary to think about how many people have gone through [Bosch's treatments] and how long he’s gotten away with this.’ Bosch has been cooperating with MLB for more than a month, providing what sources have said are extensive records of his connection to 20 to 25 players. The Milwaukee Brewers’ Ryan Braun was already confronted with evidence, and he agreed to a season-ending 65-game suspension and forfeited his remaining salary for the year. Other suspensions, including for the New York Yankees’ Alex Rodriguez, are expected within the next two weeks.”

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  • The Philosopher

    THE KING… is juicing.

  • LLC#12

    Scals secret wasn’t gonna be safe forever..

  • RayJr

    Was hoping this wouldn’t happen because of how ugly it has gotten with A-Rod and Braun.


    Who aint apart from KD ? Exactly.

  • spit hot fiyah

    his name is bosch…miami….wait, what?

  • ChosenOne

    Not surprised to be honest. Fans have been saying/speculating these things for years now.
    Tennis though, that is surprising. Andy Murray, and Rafa Nadal come to mind if I had to guess.
    Boxing – Pacquiao? Hopkins?

  • spit hot fiyah

    chess – kasparov was on one

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Part of the dislike for LeBron that some people still have will cause them to immediately assume it’s him. I’m no PED scholar, but I’d ask these people to tell me what he could have been taking. No drastic change in his body or his stats since 2009. Pretty much the same statline each season since his 2nd season besides the field goal percentage that has improved each season. Most he’s weighed is 260. Came into the league at 240. Now playing at 250. Best equipment that money can buy is available to him. Guy’s bodies change from 18 to 28 whether they work out or not. Interested in seeing what some of these folks will say.

  • pposse

    real curious to see what names are going to be dropped. whatever the case, PED’s is cheating, cheating the game and cheating yourself.

  • spit hot fiyah

    the people that are immediately suspected are players with superior physique. guys like, lebron and howard for example. or people that are on the wrong side of 30 and playing heavy minutes efficiently, like kobe. or that look like s#it one day and come back looking like an all-star the next, like wade. they all have in common that they are star players.

    if we look at who has actually been busted for something in the nba over the last few years: matt geiger, rashard lewis, oj mayo, torkoglu. they are the opposite of the categories that i mentioned above.

    my point: from the outside looking in we can only speculate. the usual suspects might be guilty or they might be innocent. and a guy like let’s say luke ridnour could be on PEDs for all we know.

    if kobe plays on opening night the internet will start burning, that’s for sure

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Truth. All we can do is sit back and wait…if the names are even revealed at all.

  • Feez_22

    If memory serves me correctly, jameer nelson and lebron james were mentioned as taking PED’s from a different clinic in florida a couple of months ago. It wasn’t heavily reported (for some crazy reason) but it said rich paul would often go to the clinic and would pick up a substance for a “LJ” while lebron was still in cleveland.

    What gives it credibility (sort of) is that he mentioned jameer. 2 orlando magic players (rashard/hedo) have been suspended for i believe 25 games for PED’s. A lot of people think d12 took PED’s and jameer gets implicated. That’s 4-5ths of the 2009 orlando magic starting lineup lol.

    If it is lebron, it would be a shame. I have to think that this one big time nba player is a star/superstar though. No use in implicating one nba athlete if they aren’t even a star.

  • spit hot fiyah

    yeah i saw that report recently even though it came out in march, i have no idea of he validity of it. but the big mystery to me is, how did that report not blow up?

  • Basketball_iQ

    I guarantee no of real caliber is involved…..

  • Basketball_iQ

    Basketball will prove, taking a drug doesn’t give you skill,,, you earn skill with hard work,,, you earn a jumpshot with hard work,, you earn a great handle with hard work,,,
    For real though,, tell me, how will a pill increase that? B c Kevin Durant is the skinniest kid I’ve ever seen and he’s the best player scoring wise in the league…. You don’t need that crap

  • pposse

    PEDS are crucial in the recovery aspect from my gained understanding of it. It won’t help you shoot better, focus better, play better defense or anything..they help your body rujevenate after putting it through hell.

    If you look at it from that perspective, you can potentially ask how KD is not on PED’s. KD is 7 ft tall basically, skinny as hell yet runs up and down the court and is a scoring machine. How does he do that day in and day out without getting injured? PEDs could be helping him with the recovery aspect..

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Lebron on the Hotseat now…

  • LP @ThisisEther

    injury recovery is what it would help with in basketball….obviously, derrick rose will NOT be linked to this scandal….

  • Rockwell

    I don’t think people will raise as big a stink about PEDs in basketball like they do for baseball because basketball isn’t “America’s Pastime.” Look at football. Football players get busted for PEDs all the time, but they don’t raise half as much controversy as Ryan Braun or A-Rod.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Nah. There’s something to be said for being a naturally gifted player. Some guys just have different gifts. Vision, size, speed, agility. Someone could say that Iverson must have been on PEDs because he kept playing through injury and played like nothing was wrong. He walked around with huge icepacks on his back but went out and scored 50 the next day. Plus, he was insanely quick and fast. KD’s been this way since high school. He’s not taking the kind of hits some other guys take so he’s not going to get seriously hurt. He’s a finesse player. Plus, he’s only 24.

  • DaRealest

    Hypothetically, if Bron did take PED’s (I hope not and would be slightly disappointed), what ya’ll think would be consequence (suspension, publix shame, asterisks, etc)?

  • KingBenjamin

    All of the above.

  • KingBenjamin

    Yeah I remember reading the same thing, this is the article I believe. http://www.totalprosports.com/2013/03/04/lebron-james-link-steroid-clinic-miami-report-incarcerated-bob-video/

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Dwight is one of the players that’s accused for the simple fact that 3 of his teammates were found juicing meanwhile Dwight Howard the biggest player on the team that looks like he is juiced isn’t juicing would kind of have to be pretty suspect.

    If LeBron is one of the players that is found to have used steroids than his legacy goes down the s***hole.

  • pposse

    oh yeah i was just saying that an argument of that ‘kind’ can be made for people who think KD is on PED’s. Personally i dont believe he is on them.

    Another note, I dont think KD is all finesse, he will take it hard to the bucket if he has to, i’ve seen him get knocked to the floor a couple times, nothing too serious but still he is willing to get physical if need be imo.

  • Basketball_iQ

    This ain’tbaseball bruh,,, steroids wwon’t help do nothing on a court

  • Basketball_iQ

    Doubt it….. Seriously.

  • Basketball_iQ

    So I’m scrolling,,,,, I see ped’s help you recover from injury faster…. That’s laughable bc I know a bunch of injured people who need them pills that DON’T PLAY A DAMN THING.

    I’m telling you,,, a pill can’t help you do a damn thing on a basketball court
    You believe EVERYTHING you read? Ugh….

  • Basketball_iQ

    Remember “performance ENHANCING”,,,, a pill don’t make you jump higher, or help you hit jumpshots on a consistent basis.
    Basketball requires a sophisticated level of coordination to play at a high level,,, footwork, dribbling skills,,,
    You fools are a trip

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    KD goes hard to the basket which is why he’s dunked on quite a few dudes in his short time in the league. But he shoots a ton of outside shots. More than he drives to the basket with force.

  • Basketball_iQ

    Rappers and golfers are be on it too watch,,, ….. It helps you get better rhymes by increasing your flow.

  • Feez_22

    i’m honestly not sure why it wasn’t blowing up. i was sure of it that espn would have done full features on it but it just got swept under the rug for some reason. I honestly hope none of it is true but that’s just the naivety in me lol

  • realATHLETE

    Anything that helps you run faster and gets you stronger will help you on the basketball court. Your comment is the single dumbest comment on the subject I’ve ever seen or heard. The idea that enhanced muscle building and faster healing will do nothing for a basketball player is asinine, and there is no polite way to say that. Baseball is a sport much less reliant on athleticism than basketball, and the sport requires just as much–if not more– skill than basketball. Why then does MLB have such a huge PED problem? Btw, do you even know anything substantial about PEDs? Are you aware of the various classifications and forms they take? You may want to read up a bit before you make silly statements about what you believe “a pill” can do for a basketball player.

  • ThaWindy

    When it comes to PEDs theres no limit to there power. If they can make a man win an IMPOSSIBLE race SEVEN times..even after having cancer…..then there’s no telling what effects they can have on a basketball player. These PEDs can be designed to do whatever they need them to do. That includes making a jump shot. I’m sure that’s not hard for them to do.

  • daBIZ

    all jokes aside, 50, nelly, Timbo, Dre, busta rhymes… all those dudes had to be doping.

  • david

    It also helps muscle building and strength.

  • realATHLETE

    PEDs don’t help the hand eye coordination it takes to hit a baseball. They don’t help you catch a football or baseball. It doesn’t help your aim in throwing the ball either, yet plenty of MLB and NFL players use PEDs. They do the same thing for a basketball player as they do for any other athlete. Some help you heal faster, some help your strength. Those things aren’t less important for a basketball player. Strength helps your shooting range the same way it helps you hit a baseball further. If increased muscle didn’t help in basketball, Shaq, Lebron, Ben Wallace, and Kris Humphries and countless others wouldn’t have NBA careers to speak of. If your argument is that PEDs don’t help with specific basketball skills, then I have news for you: THE SAME IS TRUE OF ALL sports. Stop using that argument because it’s silly and pointless. As far as injury goes, he increased recovery provided by substances like HGH need no further explanation.

    And lastly, anabolic steroids, HGH and other PEDs aren’t just little pills. You keep repeating this whole bit about a pill and it really just makes you sound ignorant on the topic. I don’t advocate PED use at all, but only a fool would deny the effectiveness of PEDS in any athletic sport.

  • Lloyd

    Um…they enhance your physical performance. It’s not a magic pill that’s claiming to give you basketball skills. If a star athlete can take something that helps him combat fatigue and play longer, that’s an advantage in itself. In the same way, if a guy can run faster, be stronger, and jump higher than everyone on the court due to PEDs, that’s giving them the unfair edge. Again, no one is saying that you can take a pill to give you a jumpshot. Maybe you should do some research into PEDs and the whole biogenesis scandal on the whole…

  • Lloyd

    For a season or two. Realistically, winning makes people forget. If he comes back from whatever league consequence and wins a couple chamionships, he’s still going to have a huge fan base. Besides, I can see the league trying to pre-emptively protect any superstar from this potentially leaking.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Now I want a publix sub sandwhich…. Thanks

  • Lloyd

    I heard the interview from the source. It was a phone interview with some random radio personality. She refused to say who she was, she had no real evidence (just stories), and was the scorned mistress of the guy who ran the clinic. No mystery as to why it wasn’t taken seriously.

    And besides, if Lebron is really going to secretly take PEDs, why would he use his real initials? Haha

  • LP @ThisisEther

    PEDs help you heal faster… its a fact.

  • Feez_22

    oh, ok. thanks for the info.

  • Jetlife001

    lebron has terrible footwork and is a terrible shooter….COINCIDENCE? LOL

  • Jetlife001

    what if i told you lebron would be involved….

  • toons

    I’m not certain one way or another that a large amount of players are using PEDs, but there have already been documented incidents, most notably OJ Mayo, of guys violating the banned substances policy of the league. You are either really naive or waay too much of a fan boy to accept the possibility that guys are using PEDs. Relax. As disappointing as it would be, the world will not end.

    It’s important that you understand A) what classifies as a PED. B) what each PED does. C) the various form they take. And D) that no one claims they are magic. Read up on them. You have a lot to learn.

  • 80

    Thats not how these enhancers work. There is a wide range of benefits one could gain from different type of PEDs. One kind could help you heal faster, another may increase stamina and resilience, third increases musclemass and strenght, fourth explosive strength and so on… there is no doubt that most of the pro players are using something illegal, with all the advanced flushing techniques, which mask the usage, it is easy to pass all test searching for PEDs.

  • toons

    All jokes aside, 50 was actually one of the infamous Victor Conte’s clients. His name was on the list with A-Rod’s the first time that phony got caught doping. Surprisingly enough, so was Mary J. Blige. Oh, and I don’t have proof but I’m sure Dre is too. Dude is over 50 and his face is more diesel than regular a gym rat’s body. Just sayin’.

  • A-Rod’s conscience

    Exactly. He doesn’t even know how they work, so how can he possibly speak on this subject?

  • The Mighty FV

    I disagree…I think it’ll destroy his legacy, he’ll be dropped by Nike and most of his sponsors and face a lengthy ban from the league

  • http://triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Nash is on that “almond milk” baby!!

  • case

    It would destroy his legacy more than any other athlete in U.S history. A lot of people are waiting for him to fail again, and they love to hate him. The magnitude of this kind of revelation cannot be understated when it comes to Lebron. I sure hope he isn’t/wasn’t doping.

  • Doper

    I want to preface my comment by stating that I’m not accusing anyone at all. But as far as Lebron is concerned, it isn’t the superior physique that rings alarms. It’s the fact that the guy has been playing at a physically high level for 10 seasons without a single major injury. A guy whose game is heavily reliant on his athleticism who is rarely injured at all screams HGH. For the record, I think and hope Bron is clean. I’m just saying if there is anything that seems suspicious about him it’s that. Not necessarily his physique.

  • GodFather

    Tennis doesn’t surprise me at all. With all the knee injuries and rotator cuff injuries they endure, it would shock me if there wasn’t a tennis player doping. Not saying all or most do, just saying that’s a perfect target group if I’m running a place like Biogenesis.

  • truthteller

    Most notably is OJ Mayo? My dude, Rashard Lewis and Hedo Turkolou were banned nearly 30 games for doping. I think it’s safe to say that a significant amount of players are juicing. It sucks but it’s true. I agree with everything else you said though.

  • Caboose

    Is your username meant to be ironic?

  • Bobby possumcod

    Sad…. the millions of dollars these so called athletes are payed have to cheat to perform. What happened to the good days?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I hope you know you are humiliating yourself.

  • nolimits3333

    Wade and Lebron are the dirtiest players in the NBA.
    I hope it is both of them.

  • RedRum

    I don’t think Lebron is in the list. However, look out for Bosh, maybe Wade. Anyone who has claimed the now classic “I gained 15 pounds of muscle during the offseason” is suspect. The reason is simple. 12-15 pounds of gain is the typical amount for cycle of PEDs. For the normal person who is not on them it might take 1 year to put on that much of muscle without fat. But they do it in 2-3 months, fat free. Yeah… right..

  • Fan

    Not surprising in the list.

    As for Tennis doesn’t the player Andy Murray train in Miami and has done so for a awhile? I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a connection there.

  • JoshShep50

    You are an idiot. Some PEDS are used to speed up recovery time so that athletes can train more often. The ability to train more frequently while not needing the normal requisite level of rest a non-user would need to recoup allows the users to gain an unfair edge. Just taking the pills don’t do anything, but to suggest that being able to cut out rest time and increase training doesn’t help a player in need of any athletic edge they can get is asinine.

  • Sean Wakefield

    Maybe, but if u can already do those thing then being stronger, faster, being able to jump higher sure would help

  • Catch them all

    good guys don’t make it. the cheaters take it away from them