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Friday, August 2nd, 2013 at 10:40 pm  |  118 responses

Greg Oden to Sign Two-Year Deal With the Miami Heat


Greg Oden, at long last, has made a decision regarding his basketball future. He’s taking whatever he may have left in those star-crossed knees to South Beach. Oden will sign a two-year deal with the back-to-back NBA champion Miami Heat. Per the AP and Grantland: “The former No. 1 overall draft pick has chosen to sign with the two-time defending NBA champion Miami Heat, ending months of suspense over where the center whose career has been decimated by a series of knee problems would be attempting his comeback. The Heat were long perceived as the frontrunners to land Oden, and now have a 7-footer to help them try for a third straight title. Mike Conley Sr., one of Oden’s agents, said Friday night that the former Portland center accepted an offer worth about $1 million for this coming season and would have a player option for 2014-15. ‘He just thought that it was the best fit for him, where he’s at and especially for how it relates to him coming back,’ Conley said. ‘He can be on a winning team and be working his way in slowly.’ The contract is expected to be formally signed early next week, Conley said. [...] ‘Obviously the chance to play with the best player in the world and compete for a championship was a big selling point,’ Oden said. ‘But more than that, what I really liked was how they thought I could really add something to their team. They’ve won back-to-back championships without me, so for them to pursue me as hard as they did meant a lot, especially given all that I’ve gone through.’ Of course, even the most optimistic Oden fans (like me) will admit that the Heat aren’t getting that Greg Oden. In truth, they’ll be lucky if Greg is half the player he was. Not only is his injury history unprecedented for an NBA player, but as he told me last year, his past few years away from the game have been a psychological and emotional struggle. Oden is now in a much better place mentally, but the odds of him salvaging his career still aren’t great, which is something he both knows and doesn’t allow himself to think about. ‘The past six years have been tough for me,’ Oden said, ‘but there’s nothing I can do about it now. The past is the past. All I’m focused on is right now. And right now I feel great and I’m looking forward to playing again.’ [...] According to Oden, ‘There’s a lot to be excited about in joining the NBA champions, getting to play with some great players, and living in Miami. But honestly, the thing I’m most excited about is just being able to play basketball again. It’s been a long and challenging road back, so just having the chance to play the game I love again has me more excited than anything else.’”

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  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Just hope he can stay healthy for his sake. It’s unfortunate how his career has gone thus far. If he’s ready to go by the end of the season or after the All-Star break, he’ll be a nice addition.

  • Dev

    Two Words: Three Heat!!

  • RKJ92

    SUP PACERS, BULLS?

  • JibbsIsBallin

    Now they have someone to match up with Roy Hibbert. I think the Pacers are still their most difficult challenge in the East despite all the trades this off-season.

  • unknown

    he took the easy way out just like ray did

  • star

    hes always played well when healthy

  • ayochaser

    I wish him well and hope he stays healthy but he shoulda picked a different team imo. He’ll likely go to the finals but won’t live up to the potential he flashed in college & his few games he played in the league. He’ll be another Joel Anthony or Birdman. Protect the rim on defense & hope you get a tip in every once in a while on offense.

  • Tony Taylor

    As a Heat fan I must say this is a nice move , but we cant get too giddy yet. Oden will average no more than 25 mins if that 15 would be cool imo. Him and Birdman and Bosh will take turns anchoring that center spot. They might have to use Joel Anthony more as well to provide support for Oden or sign another big body for league minimum.

    I say give Oden the duncan treatment and eliminate back to back games during the regular season. Hopefully Shane can regain confidence and his stroke. To aid the small ball line up. This new kid ennis is looking solid appears to have a nice shot and defensive potential. Uncle Ray Ray still here james should be able knock open shots down. Chalmers gets a little better every year as does Norris. We really need an all around effort to provide Oden and Lebron the support and rest they will need.

  • Stainless

    crazy to think that greg olden is only 25 years old.

  • ZenGarden

    watch him get a ring before durant

  • grgeblck

    I feel like they have enough big body in their roster with addition of Oden. They’ll have to figure out how to 3-peat this coming season with these pieces, as all the naysayers look on.

  • grgeblck

    He can’t live up to that hype anymore. You see, his got his bad knees that’s why he chose to play for a team that doesn’t need him to be the star. So heat fits him perfectly.

  • grgeblck

    that’s really crazy. Hope he make this trip worth it.

  • KBM

    One word: Reheat

  • ayochaser

    I feel like he still could, he’s just 23-24 which leaves plenty of room for improvement. I’m not saying he should have gone to the bobcats or a team where he’d be one of the better players easily but at least go to a team that will groom you to be a core part of the team. The heat are gonna be the same team for the foreseeable future so depending on lebron’s decision in a year or 2 he’ll likely be a role player when in his prime. I felt the spurs would have been a great fit for him. He could learn from Tim until he retires & be the next in line so to speak.

  • grgeblck

    as long as he is healthy, anything is possible. let’s hope for the best.

  • http://www.facebook.com/myselfunderkarma Fredd.

    Somehow, the guy is blessed, Injured like that, have the mental desire to come back one more time and get rewarded with the reigning champions giving him a spot. Nice Story, then, basketball wise it seems way too early to predict anything, except that he’ll be at worst ( if healthy ) a very valuable role player.

  • JML-G

    lil KD always gon be second behind my dude Greg

  • JML-G

    out from where, moron?

  • Ugh

    Why is it I seriously doubt you’ve ever done anything as ‘easy’ as three years of rehab?

  • Ugh

    Is that a blessing, or is that just a lot of hard work?
    I think it’s a lot of hard work.

  • Ugh

    He’ll be 26 in January.
    He’s had three microfracture surgeries. Kenyon Martin had two. You should probably look at him as the model for predicting Oden’s ceiling these days, not Tim Duncan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/myselfunderkarma Fredd.

    Not every players get to restart his career on a champ’ squad, after such injuries, plus people, media, caring about it ( at least for now )
    But of course we agree none of this would be if the guy was not working real hard to come back.

  • ayochaser

    I meant more along the lines of skill set with Duncan. Oden wasn’t very athletic to begin with & multiple knee surgeries is definitely gonna hamper his mobility so learning behind a highly skilled, yet not so athletic mentor would be in his best interest.

  • FuTangClan

    I see what you did there

  • pposse

    i’d wish him well and success..but he plays for the Heat now so that’s that. I think the Spurs were a better fit…better coach and he could have learned the game from the Big Fundamental’s perspective which probably would have served him better as a player. Tim Duncan only gets like 5 inches off the ground these days and still is a killer, that’s probably how Oden should be playing to preserve those knees.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    And who will Match up with him? Are you assuming that Greg Oden will come back from 4 years off and be able to match up with Hibbert, who is heading into his prime?

    That’s like saying Arenas will come back and will match up with Kyrie or Westbrook or even Wall…… Let that man get healthy, this ain’t 2k14…

  • Tony Taylor

    Hope he can have that Ron “Hot Rod”Harper experience on those bulls teams after he tore his knee up. If oden can get some of thatt that would be dope.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    I’m shocked at how many of you guys think Oden will actually make an IMPACT in his first year back in the NBA….. HE LAST PLAYED IN 2009! Him playing does not negatively or positively affect Heat repeat status…..

    Question : who is the last player, besides Michael Jordan to take at least 2 years off and come back and make an impact their first year back? Or any type of impact ever at all for that matter?! Come on guys….

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Mentioning Jordan and Oden in the same sentence makes no sense. He doesn’t have to even be half of what he was supposed to be in Portland. All he has to do is grab some rebounds and block or contest a few shots. Maybe get a few putpack points. He’ll be able to do that by April. That’s all that matters.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Completely different kind of players. Can’t compare a guard coming back to a center coming back. Especially one who doesn’t have to score or be any kind of impact player on offense. Arenas would come back and half to chase the fastest guys in the league around. Oden just has to body up with Hibbert, block him out and not allow him to score easily or just dominate the boards.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    You’re just automatically assuming he makes it through an entire season, including training camp. Eddy curry was at a better Starting point for the heat, and where is he? I want him to comeback strong but you expect any production this year, past 7 mins a game… Miami has birdman to grab those rebounds you speak of..

  • RedRum

    LEts put things in perspective. Oden had 5 (yeap FIVE!!!) mircofracture surgeries. There is almost no chance he will be able to play meaningful NBA minutes. Teams that wanted him are playing a lottery. T

  • cbb_fanatic

    I agree. Too many players like to do that. I understand that you’re getting older as a player and you want to be on a team that you feel has the highest chance of getting a championship, but what ever happened to dignity. Ray sold out because of some crybaby crap about the Celts not pursuing him hard enough. I don’t know what Oden’s real reasons are, except that he wants to be a possible “champion”, but we need more players like Duncan who stay with their teams regardless and build their empire from the ground up. Not go to a David Stern-built skyscraper just because it’s the “coolest” building RIGHT NOW.

  • Caboose

    Chris Andersen.

  • Caboose

    Someone sounds bitter.

  • JibbsIsBallin

    There is nobody on the Heat pound of pound that can match up against Hibbert. Now they have a big body they can throw at him. Its not like Hibbert plays entire 48 minutes in a game and Oden definitely won’t. Oden will certainly have to get back in to the swing of things, but in the postseason he will be beneficial to the Heat. And No, I’m not sure how its like saying Arenas will come back to match up Kyrie or Russel.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Great answer, but he did play for Denver in 2011-2012 before Miami…… Despite legal troubles…

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Just 10-12 minutes a game is all he’s going to play. Did you not hear the part where the Heat told him they wouldn’t rush him and he won’t be needed that much especially early in the season? Birdman isn’t going to do it by himself. That’s part of the reason why they almost lost to Indiana. They needed more. Now they have more.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Arenas has been out of the league a few years, u wouldn’t expect him to have an impact against some of the best pgs in the league, would you? Oden is working his way back, you have to assume 0% contribution from this year until you actually see it…

    He first has to make it through training camp, which is a battle in itself, and you guys have already penciled him in to be a difference maker against one of the best centers in the league……

  • LP @ThisisEther

    And blocking him out takes mobility, jumping, coordination, timing….. And he will have these tools come playoff time?

  • LP @ThisisEther

    So, why didn’t eddy curry play 10-12 minutes a game for the heat during the first ‘ship? Why? He didn’t earn the minutes. He wasn’t ready to play. Outta shape. Took too much time off…. Everybody thought when he signed, he’d play “10-12 minutes a game”, but it never happened….

    do you think they will hand him 10-12 min a game.??? And you think if he did play, he would have an impact? We gotta wait and see.

  • K_HOLIDAY

    Not hating on you but I hate when ppl say this. When a player wants to win, they go where they’re wanted and have the best chance of winning. Boston tried to trade Ray damn near every season. He had the right to leave and felt Miami was the best chance for him to win another ring. Doesn’t make him any less of a competitor. He saved their season in Game 6. He’s paid his dues in the league. Had the Spurs won and T Mac got a ring, everyone would’ve been happy even though he didn’t do a thing. Ray Allen earned that ring. He didn’t take any easy way out. He chose where he thought he had the best chance to win and it paid off.

  • greg

    eddy curry couldnt play pick and roll defense and miami requires a minimum level of lateral agility that eddy curry has never in his career possessed

  • RKJ92

    Ron Artest after the malice in the palace.

  • RKJ92

    Eddy Curry was NOT at a better starting point for the Heat then Oden are you kidding me? Eddy Curry was still overweight and had athletic issues to match his age, he wasn’t even the same player anymore.. Any reporter, analyst, and manager that has seen Oden playing, or working out for respected teams has raved about how good he looks right now; you shouldn’t even put Eddy Curry, and Greg Oden in the same sentence. Secondly if Greg can produce like he’s capable of Chris Anderson will be fighting for those minutes, I think you highly underestimate the skill Greg Oden has even with his previous injury.

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  • LP @ThisisEther

    At this point, Eddy Curry has been MORE PRODUCTIVE in the NBA than Greg Oden…. Right? If you want to assume an injury machine is going to be a factor, go right ahead. He’s played 82 games. I’m not saying he won’t help, I’m saying I need to see it first before I make any assumption.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    He was out One year max….he didn’t miss a season.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    It’s August 2013…the playoffs won’t be here until April 2014…that’s 9 months from now. He’ll be fine by then. Enough to just have a small impact. That’s all they need. No one’s asking him to be Bill Russell.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Completely different player than Greg Oden. Curry didn’t have injury issues. He had motivation/weight issues. His mind was his biggest problem, not his body. Major difference.

  • pposse

    change your avatar to the Heat logo!

  • Lloyd

    Haha not bad wordplay, but I think “microwave” when I hear that and that just don’t seem right.

  • Lloyd

    Fine? Or reinjured? Playing a season worth of games over 5 seasons with about a knee surgery every year gives doesn’t really support your statement.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    My statement is he will be ready to do what he was signed to do by April 2014. I’m going off of what people are saying about his workout in front of teams. I’m not foolish enough to sit here and predict that he’ll be hurt again just because he was unfortunate enough to be hurt a lot in the past. There are a lot of things that have happened in the past that eventually stopped happening so it’s idiotic to say he’ll get hurt again because he’s gotten hurt in the past. Grant Hill eventually got it together after years of injuries.

    This isn’t Portland. He’s not being asked to play a ton of minutes. He’s not forcing himself to get back in order to prove anything to anyone. The regular season will serve as a warmup for the playoffs for him. Whenever he’s able to play, he’ll be eased in. He’s there for the Pacers and Bulls matchups, not for any other reason. So any other games he plays will be for him to get some game minutes to prepare him for the postseason. But not too much.

  • Saleem Rainman

    Slam, just so u know, u were one of the latest sites to report this. smh.

  • RKJ92

    Dude it’s Eddy Curry.. I would bet my left testicle Greg Oden makes a bigger impact on the Heat then Eddy Curry..

  • RKJ92

    He was out a year, got traded to Sacramento, didn’t want to play for them so he whined, and sat out for parts of that season trying to get traded, or signed somewhere else (only played 40 games for Sacramento) , by the next season he gave up trying, and finally played a full season for Sacramento. So yes Ron Artest has done it after Michael Jordan.

  • Saleem Rainman

    HA!

  • RKJ92

    This is such a bad comparison Arenas is 30.. Greg is only 25 and has room to blossom as a player with obvious huge potential.. Secondly how can you compare a guard to a center, those are 2 very different positions, that’s ridiculous.

  • RKJ92

    He’s taken a copious amount of time off to rehab there is no reason he shouldn’t be able to perform just fine, especially with everybody raving about how good he looks condition wise, there is plenty of support to the statement your just being ignorant to the facts.

  • RKJ92

    Nope, Raptors are my team for life, I root for the Heat only because of Bosh (previously a Raptor so I want to see him do well), and Bron’, I despise Wade because he cries too much but eh what can you do..

  • RKJ92

    Should I get you two a room?

  • Moochie

    Hibbert averaged 22p, 10r and 1bl. this isn’t exactly “dominating”. Yes, he put up great numbers, but it’s not like he is their go to guy.

  • Lloyd

    People saying he looks good isn’t a fact, that’s opinion based, and those same people haven’t seen him play an NBA game yet.

    The actual facts are Greg Oden has only played 82 regular season games in his career because he’s kept getting hurt. He’s had 5 knee surgeries in the past 5 years. If you personally believe that a 7-footer can recover from that much damage to his knees and be expected to bang down low with the likes of Roy Hibbert, more power to you. But again, that’s your personal belief, don’t try to pass it off as factually based or credible in the slightest.

  • Lloyd

    Sure we can’t know until we see him make it through the season into the playoffs, but a 7-footer with 5 knee surgeries under his belt really can’t be expected to be that durable. It isn’t idiotic to know that a big man with ailing knees is a liability. On a completely separate point, Grant Hill is the exception, not the rule.

    The minutes he will play, he’ll be forced to bang down low with the likes of Joakim Noah, Roy Hibbert, maybe even Andrew Bynum if he can get it together (although Bynum has no reason to be a problem at this point either). Let’s not act like he’s playing pick up games at the local YMCA. He’s going to have to battle some big bodied, tough guys. The chances of reinjury in those circumstances are very likely.

    And even if he does manage to stay healthy, I can’t see him playing more than 10-15 minutes (15 is generous in my opinion). Roy Hibbert averaged 40 minutes against the Heat, and an injured Joakim Noah managed 38. Greg Oden at his highest potential will only be able to match up with them for a fraction of that time. His impact is definitely being overstated prematurely.

  • Mike From Spain

    The Brandon Roy case comes to mind… If it works out fine, but there is a high chance it doesn’t

  • LP @ThisisEther

    I’m comparing INJURIES… Im comparing Not being able to play from multiple knee surgeries…doesn’t matter what Position….
    seems like your suggesting his knees won’t make that much of a difference because he’s tall and plays the 5…
    they thought arenas would come back and he couldn’t. A knee injury is a knee injury, no matter the position….knee injuries play tricks on people, so those Oden workouts mean nothing. .
    .and you’re talking age, Greg odens has the knees of a 37 year old man!
    I wouldn’t even entertain the thought of ODEN being anywhere close to where he was, and its not like he was DOMINATING In the games he actually played in……

  • LP @ThisisEther

    But, EDDY CURRY has had a better NBA career than Oden… Why would you bet your future children on Oden? Ohio State fan?

  • iceman

    i’d take oden over bynum because at least he has the heart and motivation to play

  • RKJ92

    So why did 7 teams want him then…? because he was just instantly gonna get injured? because he isn’t a defensive force? because he didn’t look good in all his workouts? because they didn’t think he had what it took to make an impact, this was a dog fight signing and there is a reason for that, you should let that sink in a bit..

  • RKJ92

    No, I’m a Duke fan but I’ve been watching Oden since HS, he is disgustingly talented.. even if you took away his athleticism he could still dominate a game defensively, and even if he’s coming off an injury he could make an impact on ANY team he’s on as long as he isn’t re-injured.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    All I need to do is name 1 player to show that injured players don’t always stay that way. Things change. Grant ended up filling a nice spot for the Suns. And that’s all Oden is going to be asked to do. So if one player can do it, another can.

    He doesn’t need more than 10-15. 10-12 is what people are saying. And Birdman will handle the rest of the work. Miami is great enough to not have to really count on their big guys a lot. All they need them to do is contest shots at the rim and rebound. Birdman just played 15 minutes a game in the playoffs last season. Whenever they don’t want to play small ball, they can go with either one. Against the Pacers and Bulls with Noah and Hibbert playing big minutes, add up Birdman’s 15 and Oden’s 10-12 and you have a good 25-27 minutes of work against Hibbert and Noah. Also remember whatever they don’t do, LeBron will do. All Oden will be is an option they can go to when needed. His impact isn’t being overstated because no one is saying he needs to do much. Just block or contest shots and rebound. That’s all Miami’s bigs have ever had to do since the Big 3 was formed.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    I wouldn’t go that far. Even though it seems like Bynum would sometimes prefer bowling over basketball, when he’s focused, he still has the potential to be a top 5 center.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    How is what people saw up close with their own eyes not a fact? That’s all it is…a fact. Definitely not an opinion. Why didn’t we hear anyone else say anything differently? People said he looked lean and moved well…that’s a fact, not an opinion.

  • Saleem Rainman

    lmao shut yo legs bro

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  • Saleem Rainman

    BTW, u comin down to the 3 on 3 ball tourney at dufferin and clarke community center tmrw ? Andrew Wiggins might be comin down, his brother nick wiggins is confirmed(Wichita state player, made the final 4 this year), they’re basically pick up games, bring a 3 and ur in pretty much.

  • Lloyd

    For your 1 Grant Hil I can show you multiple players who are the more the norm for careers after injury (i.e. Brandon Roy, T-Mac). The fact is the majority, if not, every player who goes through a serious injury comes back lesser than they were before. Grant Hill still had his skill set to accomodate his diminished athleticism. Greg Oden just has size now (We shouldn’t even be comparing the two). The series of injuries that Greg Oden went through, no big man has been able to bounce back with lesser problems unless you want to name someone who I’m overlooking?

    Birdman can handle Hibbert and Joakim? He was on par with with your Tyler Hansbroughs, he can’t deal with the likes of those big men. If he could, the Heat wouldn’t need another big to address their gaping hole inside. They’re going to be the same team as last year, just with 10 minutes from Greg Oden. Not to mention the awkward spacing that conflicts with how Miami plays whenever he’s on the floor.

    His impact isn’t being overstated? How many articles in the last month about how Greg Oden is most likely going to end up in Miami. There were even a couple saying that Greg Oden’s signing would ensure a chip for the Heat. How is all this not overstating the impact he’s going to make, if any? Anything other than, “I’ll believe it when I see it” skepticism is blind faith and optimism at this point.

    Anyway, If he manages to stay healthy, the Heat get a big body to park down low…that’s IT.

  • Lloyd

    It’s their opinion that he looked good. Looking “good” is relative. What’s their standard of good? Each person’s varies. Therefore, it’s an opinion that he looks “good”. The fact here is that the people who saw him said it, but him “looking good” is just their opinion. It’s not indication or evidence that he will be good throughout the season or playoffs.

  • Lloyd

    It was a dog fight signing? Most people had opinions of where he should go, but every expert I read had him going to the Heat regardless. They signed him because he was a 7-foot body for a million a season. You can’t teach size, but unfortunately that’s all you’re getting here.

    1. I’ll be surprised if they even work him into the rotation before 2014 2. He’ll play only a handful of minutes if they do. I don’t understand what huge impact you think he’s going to be making. My goodness you just blindly love anything to do with the Heat huh?

  • RKJ92

    I’m not the one kissing ass though.. so..

  • RKJ92

    Naw I already used to play with Wiggins on a team called CAN6 when we were younger so it’s not such a huge deal to me to play with him albeit he’s gotten 2 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier since then lol, besides that i’ll be in Whitby with my pops celebrating his 45th birthday, if another tournament comes up I will be down if you need a point guard.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Greg Oden’s defensive instincts can’t be taught. He’s had them since high school. So like Grant, he has skills that will be with him even without athleticism. He’s 7’0. All he has to do is get high enough off the ground to interfere with a few shots.

    T-Mac eventually broke down because of how much he had to do in Orlando…completely different than Oden’s simple misfortune. He broke down trying to carry that team too much. And he was 28…Oden’s just 25 now.

    Birdman and Oden can do enough to contain Hibbert. Joakim is a non issue on offense. On the boards, those two can at least match him with rebounds between them and LeBron helping.

    What people were saying with Oden pushing them over the Heat over the top is a testament to how great the Heat already are in their opinion. All they need is a big body. They got it. If he turns into half of what he once was, that will be icing on the cake. But he could just stand under the basket and it will be an improvement for them.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Their standard of good is the same standard that got them jobs with the teams they represent.

  • RKJ92

    Wtf? I don’t have a favorite team besides the Raptors.. I support Chris Bosh (because he was a Raptor and I want to see him do well), and LeBron James because he’s my second favorite player.. Secondly I don’t blindly love anybody, or anything, I’m stating facts while your making excuses.. I know I’ll be right at the end of the day, I’ve watched Oden play since high school he may have gotten injured but so has Grant Hill, and Big Z, and even they were still productive from serious injuries, he doesn’t need to be Shaq.. he just needs to rebound, play solid defense, and get a few put backs how hard of a concept is that for you to grasp? at one million this is a steal, if you say otherwise your a fool.. ask yourself this.. if you had a NBA team on the verge of winning a championship would you sign a potential young SOLID center for 2 million 2 years? if the answer is no, lord help you..

  • Lloyd

    I don’t know what defensive instincts you think Greg Oden has that doesn’t rely on his athleticism. In college he had good timing and could get up higher and could somwhat move his feet to keep up with guys at that level. In the NBA, he struggled to keep up with guys, especially after the first knee injury, and his jumping ability had regressed because of it too so he couldn’t rely on that to compensate either. The result was he was incredibly foul prone. Dude averaged 6.6 fouls per-40. 3+ knee injuries/surgeries later, it’s not hard to imagine that his athleticism has regressed even more so.

    T-Mac was a wing player. Greg Oden is a old school big man. That role takes power, strength, and durability. It’s a lot more grueling and there’s been no reason to believe that Oden’s body can take that kind of punishment. He may be 25, but his knees are much older. Again, no reason to believe he can stay healthy and be up to the challenge.

    Birdman and Oden are the only two down low defensive big men the Heat have. Even if they’re enough to slow down Hibbert together (wchih they’re not), the Heat are still giving up size and toughness down low to David West and on the offensive end, Luis Scola. Birdman and a shell of Greg Oden isn’t enough to deal with all that.

    That’s not how Miami plays. They’ll have to change their game plan up entirely everytime Oden is on the floor. They’re the exact same team +10 minutes from Greg Oden. That’s not a huge deal.

  • Lloyd

    If you want to translate reporters stating their opinion that Greg Oden looks good in work outs to him being a a great centre this season, that’s fine by me. Again, that’s not fact, that’s hearsay.

  • RKJ92

    I used to play with Wiggins when we were younger off of an expansion Scarborough Blues team for a summer, so I wouldn’t get too gaga over seeing him lmao. Aside from that it’s my dads 45th birthday so i’m spending the next couple days with him in Whitby otherwise I would. If you wanna play with, or against me let me know I will come down to whatever gym, or outside court you want if you need a point guard. I usually play on a court called the cage in Scarborough if you heard of it. around the Birchmount/Danforth area lots of good consistent competition, and games going on till 10pm during the summer.

  • Lloyd

    The only “fact” you stated was that 7 teams were reported to be interested in him (I read 5 on ESPN, but i’ll give you that since you were close).

    What excuse am I making?…

    Ahhh that explains a lot. You must think you’re getting a high school/college Greg Oden. Dude’s defensive ability had regressed in the few NBA games he had played because of his athletic ability dropping due to injury. He was more foul prone then anything back then (averaging 6.6 fouls per-40) and it’s safe to say that he’s probably lost even more of a step now.

    You pointing to two NBA all stars who were able to adapt their roles to play in the NBA (although kidney disease isn’t even in the same category here) doesn’t translate to Greg Oden doing the same thing. Neither has as much physical injury problems as Greg Oden. As the article says, his string of injuries is unprecedented.

    Oh is that all he needs to do? Man must be easy to do so in the NBA especially when you’re playing against big, healthy athletes whose purpose out there is to stop you from just that and to try and do the same to you. Even easier when you haven’t stepped on an NBA floor in +5 seasons. It’s a good thing that’s all he needs to do though.

    It’s a low risk contract. There was no way he was going to get a big pay day. 1 million a year is perfectly reasonable. Doesn’t mean he’s going to be a big impact.

  • RKJ92

    Lets just agree to disagree, and let his next 2 seasons do the talking, and if I’m wrong I will fully admit it, but if your wrong don’t cop out and make an excuse just man up to it.

  • RKJ92

    Ok Oden also had a PER of 19.5 over the span of all his games played, and a PER of 23.5 the season he got injured. What you also failed to mention was that although per 36 he averaged 6.4 fouls per game over his career, he also averaged 15.3ppg (on .577 shooting, and .613 TS%), 11.9rpg (4.6 of which were offensive rebounds), 1apg, 1spg, and 2.3bpg (3.4 his last season) that is IF were going by the per 36 minutes i’m sure I can live with the 6.4 fouls if he produces even half that amount for 1 million. Your blind bro.

  • Dev

    I mean all he has to do is stand at the rim and block a few shots and grab some rebounds. If he can atleast do that these guys might rip off 40 straight wins cus who really can deal with this team and all that shooting, plus some interior D. He wont be asked to do alot and any scoring would just be an added plus

  • Dev

    Duncan also had an organization that wanted to ride it out with em as well. It seemed like Pierce might retire a Celtic but things change quickly

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Sadly, it looks like the majority of you guys think Oden will come in a be blocking shots and grabbing rebounds in no time…. To each…

    Sent from Samsung tablet

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  • Evan Boland

    25 minutes LOL

  • Lloyd

    How am I blind? The 6.6 fouls stat was in response to you thinking Oden is some kind of defensive god in the NBA. He was good in college there yes, but in the NBA, with multiple knee/ankle injuries he got slower as well as heavier. He couldn’t rotate as well, he couldn’t move laterally as quickly, and he couldn’t jump as high anymore which led him to being more foul prone than defensive specialist.

    And what are all your stats trying to prove? That Oden is some sort of offensive threat? That was by far the weakest part of his game. He had two moves: get deep post position for an easy dunk or a little hook. He was predictable and had an inability to adjust to whatever the defense threw at him. He was a liability on the offensive end against any team with an average to good centre of decent size. He was sometimes able to bully teams with smaller bigs just off sheer size, but that was it.

    The only thing that really translated from his college days to the NBA was his rebounding ability in that combined single season he played, but again, he’s now going to be slower with less vertical and won’t be able to bang and battle for position as well as he used to as well.

    Do you know WHY he’s only getting paid a mill a season? Because he doesn’t deserve any more! It’s not a steal because dude has done nothing to deserve a lot of money. It would be a gamble to pay him any more because his whole career has been plagued with repeated injuries and there’s ZERO reason to believe that this season will be any different. If you’re convinced of anything else, you’re basing it on pure optimism, hope, and blind faith!

    And PLEASE tell me what excuses you think I’m making. You’ve said it twice and I’m not sure you know what “excuse” means at this point…

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    Did I say he was going to be great? I said he’s probably going to be capable of contesting some shots and grabbing some rebounds by the end of the season. And it wasn’t just reporters…I’m sure Pat Riley didn’t sign him after asking a reporter what he/she thought of the workout.

  • RKJ92

    I’m giving you cold hard stats, and your giving me your opinion over gm’s, analysts, and personal reporters who’s job is to watch this man like a hawk and make sure he can be of asset to a championship team.. do you see how foolish this makes you? there is a reason Greg Oden had so many suitors after him, and it isn’t because he’s a scrub.
    You can type me a story but stats don’t lie.. he’s obviously not going to be a superstar, but he will be solid if he’s healthy case and point. To argue this acquisition just makes you look ignorant, and quite honestly points to your knowledge of basketball.. If I had found out Oden signed with either the Pacers, Bulls, SA, OKC, I would deff think that it would be a signing that would push them over the edge, and possibly put them in a much better position to win a championship, why is it any different with the Heat?

  • Ugh

    Indeed. A successful reinvention of a player.

  • The Philosopher

    I worry about this kid.
    He has heart, though.
    If he plays half the season, it would be a resounding success. In my opinion.
    It would be ranked highly as one of the great comeback stories in the history of The League. In my estimation.
    1. Shaun Livingston.
    2. Greg Oden.
    3. Danny Manning?

  • Lloyd

    That’s every NBA player then. There’s no indication at this point that the Greg Oden signing will put the Heat over the top. To speculate at this point that it will is just unfounded optimism.

    The Cavs signed Andrew Bynum even though he’s physically a liability. It’s a gamble. Small contract that may or may not pay dividends. At this point, given his history and circumstances, there’s no reason to believe that it’ll be that impactful.

  • Lloyd

    Your cold hard stats are 5+ years too late bud, not to mention 5+ surgeries removed. That would be like me rattling off Hakeem’s stats to you and telling you that he’s going to be just as dominant if he comes back right now (even though I’d take a 50 year old Olajuwon over a 25 year old Greg Oden at this point…he also “looked good” in those videos where he works with various NBA players).

    I told you, he had suitors after him because he’s 7 ft tall and was going to be dirt cheap regardless of who signed him. It’s low risk, potentially somewhat mediocre reward so why not. If he can help, fine, if he can’t do anything but be big and gets hurt, it’s only a million so who cares?

    I’m not arguing the acquisition. I’m saying it doesn’t put the Heat over the top. Maybe it could help them sure, but again, they’re the same team they were last year with MAYBE 10 minutes from a guy who’s going to be in the way in the paint on both ends or useless. We don’t know but more signs point to him not being that significant right now.

    You can try to insult me (you’re not very good at it btw), but I’m not a child. I don’t believe in fairy tales. You want to believe that Greg Oden is going to make a miraculous comeback based on little to no evidence? Your childlike faith is inspiring! But take that in…he’s trying to make a comeback. Don’t act like he has already just because he got signed. There’s no proof at this point to prove that he will be able to either, so again, enjoy your fantasy since that’s all it is right now.

  • Evan Boland

    Umm.. He’s retired. So no, it didn’t.

  • Evan Boland

    Dude.. Greg Oden will not appear in a playoff game..

  • Evan Boland

    You would think, year after year of him saying he will try to play, that people would get the point, y’know?

  • Evan Boland

    Dude what you have to realize is that the chances he doesn’t contribute in the playoffs at this point are a heck of lot higher than the chances that he does. Look how long he’s been in the L and look how many times he’s made it through a season. He hasn’t been able to get on the court in years. I’m not saying it’s impossible, that his knees hold up and he’s able to regain some of his former, it’s just highly unlikely. With absolutely no investment in this story, if I had to make a bet I’d most certainly put my money on him not being in uniform come may.

  • Evan Boland

    Top 2 or 3.. He WAS 2 years ago.

  • Mike From Spain

    OK, let me rephrase it: The Brandon Roy thing didn’t work, which was my whole point, so the situation for Oden is similar… and the odds could be similar too.

  • Phil

  • pposse

    Getting a 7 footer for 1 million a season is a bargain and a half. The risk is well worth the reward…Greg Oden gets injured again the team loses 1 million dollars…Greg Oden performs well you get an impact player for 1 million dollars which is a steal. You can easily look at it like… ONLY 7 teams have been looking at him. It would be something if all 30 teams in the league were vying for this guy, but only 7 are, which is not a bad number but for 1 million dollars…a lot of teams and GM’s probably don’t agree with your opinion on him right now or else more would have been vying for his services.

  • Lloyd

    People just want him to see him do well is all, but let’s be friggin realistic.

  • Evan Boland

    Lebron will do. Lol. Just finished watching game 6 Spurs – Heat and wondering how people could even think of comparing him to MJ.

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    He doesn’t need to be compared to anyone. He’s making his own mark. When he’s done, people are going to be looking for guys to try to compare to him. He’s MJ/Oscar Robertson/Magic Johnson/Karl Malone hybrid. Never been seen before.

  • Dev

    Plus it would be the third time so u need a 3 in there somewhere

  • ae8

    Reunited

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  • Evan Boland

    He doesn’t have even an ounce of MJ’s heart, desire to win, and willingness to carry his team on his back. He shrinks under pressure. Passes to Haslem lol. Do you even remember the Dallas series? How about back to back TO’s to nearly blow the Spurs series? Gtfo with Lebron. Most overrated player I’ve ever seen.

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