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Thursday, August 29th, 2013 at 11:10 am  |  60 responses

Phoenix Suns Trade Caron Butler to the Milwaukee Bucks


by Marcel Mutoni @ marcel_mutoni

Less than two months after landing in Phoenix, Caron Butler is on the move again.

The Suns have agreed to ship the 33-year old Butler to the Milwaukee Bucks, in exchange for point guard Ish Smith and center Viacheslav Kravtsov.

Per the AZ Republic:

The Suns gain $5.65 million of cap space for any potential in-season trades but also save that money to make an expected costly waiver of Michael Beasley more palatable. Beasley would be owed $9 million of guaranteed salary. Butler, 33, will make $8 million this season on an expriring contract but the Bucks could absorb most of that with $7.5 million of cap space. Smith, who has played 121 games for six teams, will make a guaranteed $985,000 this season with a 2014-15 team option at the same salary. Kravtsov, who logged 25 games in Detroit as a rookie last season, is on an expiring deal for a guaranteed $1.5 million.

The Suns sounded like a team that planned to keep Butler and nothing since then indicated otherwise. Butler smartly wore an orange tie at his introductory press conference and general manager Ryan McDonough talked about his man crush on him and how Butler was part of the team’s future with Eric Bledsoe. They were acquired in that early July three-team deal that sent Jared Dudley to the Clippers officialy on July 10.

Caron Butler, a Racine, Wis., native, is joining a team he grew up rooting for.

Michael Beasley will have to find himself a new mentor in Phoenix, assuming the Suns don’t cut ties with him first.

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  • Ishmael Jenkins

    After he modeled their new hideous uniforms? Disrespectful. Guess that means Beasley will either get it together on his own or be gone from Phoenix soon.

  • BCoops

    Depressed that ‘this’ is the headline article. Season needs to start soon, or at least drop the top 50…

  • Mike Gilbert

    August….

  • Elliot

    I was really hoping Caron would mentor Beasley so he could be maybe sort himself out and start playing like the #2 pick he should’ve been

  • LP @ThisisEther

    the new Quentin Richardson….

  • danpowers

    what the hell are the suns planning over there? another pg? wtf

  • RayJr

    At least NFL’s Week 1 is right around the corner.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    How many times do I have to say they are tanking before it sets in?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Michael Beasley will not be on the Suns next season

  • ctk

    If them young pgs don’t perform n the East …Bucks can get that 8th spot n the East

  • danpowers

    lol ok i got that. still a little strange after they already got bledsoe marshall and dragic. shouldnt they use that year to develop what they have instead of creating a point guard queue? or are we going to see them play with two point guards permanently?

  • anon

    well, there goes that whole “mentoring Beasley” idea. lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Ish Smith is a cheap contract. Not a rotation player. The Suns are also literally trying to give Kendall Marshall away to anyone who will take him.
    .
    And the Dragic/Bledsoe duo is supposed to share the vast majority of minutes together. I mean, they are tanking. It’s not like it’s supposed to work.

  • spit hot fiyah

    probably the latter

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ Nick Tha Quick

    I’spose this means that the Polish Hammer will now be Beasley’s new mentor.

  • RKJ92

    After this trade Phoenix is going to use the remaining salary to waive Michael Beasley. They most likely will not retain Beasley’s rights.

  • RKJ92

    They are already in the process of waiving Beasley, so don’t worry he will be gone from your team soon ;)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    They definitely will not retain Beasley’s rights.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    man, i told you guys he would be waived by September 1st the day he got caught with pot, lol…i know. just trying to get everyone else to see that.

  • Evan Boland

    What is Milwaukee’s plan?? They’re moves make no sense.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    their owner is old. seems like he doesn’t want to rebuild (old people die, nobody wants to die while their team is horrible), so he’s pushing management to just try and make the playoffs. regardless of their actual chances.

  • yourdribbleizcookiez

    4 PG’s on that Suns roster now. Bledsoe, Dragic, Marshall, and now Smith. Hmm…

  • danpowers

    now that kind of makes sense to me. thanks papa bear

  • Caboose

    The Bucks are really just content to stay in the exact same place aren’t they? Sisyphus had a less futile existence.

  • Caboose

    QRich never had the talent of Butler.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    I’m referring to the multiple trade destinations

  • jub al

    Who else would be willing to mentor Beasley? If Beasley were smart, he’d sign with the Bucks for cheap after he gets waived and stick with Caron for as long as he’s willing to take him…

  • KingBenjamin

    Just retire Caron, you’re at the stage where you aren’t the same player you once were and when NBA teams only want you so they can get draft picks.

  • Elliot

    That is a very good point! I wish Beasley would sort himself out.. I think another team will take a chance tho, he still has some potential

  • Bruce Wayne

    Yes he did..at the top of his game they were very similar players

  • merriwether

    He requested to go… please get the facts right.

    He also became the first player ever to “demand” a trade to Milwaukee hahaha

  • Interdico Scriptor

    Ha. Too much time wasted doing that Beasley stuff and co. Curious how this Bucks team ‘experiment’ thing goes. It’s possible it’s not as bad as it looks. There is a very fine line between madness and genius. For the record this is a lot closer to madness than the latter; but it is still an experiment that makes the Bucks at least, a team to watch. Rough Juice has flashes of some pretty decent ball playing in short bursts, for each of teams he’s been a part of. If anything, CButler is one of the least appreciated role players still playing the game. Caron does his thing, in bursts, yet effectively and relatively efficiently. With him you get a team guy, with loyalty and the right attitude to work with less experienced stars; in that respect Butler brings things to any team he goes to.
    IMO that can only be considered an upside.
    bucks will crash and burn, but they will learn a few things, and a times, be pretty exciting to watch.

  • Interdico Scriptor

    Will anybody pick him up? Who’s a contender then? Is it my understanding with his large salary any team interested has to pay that? And so if that’s the case are you saying Beas won’t be in the NBA next year?

  • Interdico Scriptor

    like. Camus bombs are the new SLAM chic

  • Interdico Scriptor

    all hail the king… lol

  • Interdico Scriptor

    who says there’s no love in SLAM

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    He will be a free agent. He’s not being amnestied, he’s just being waived. Phoenix is still on the hook for the rest of his deal. They are just waiting till Sept 1st so that his 6 mill counts towards the salary cap. .
    In terms of teams picking him up…. I don’t know if any will. Maybe he’ll get a D-League assignment or something like that. But the risk kinda out weighs the reward at this point. If a team does sign him, expect it to be Charlotte or some other small market club that isn’t set on winning. But I really think he’s gotta work his way back into the league. Phoenix gave him every shot.

  • Tear

    Tank for Wiggins?

  • Ishmael Jenkins

    So he said he would mentor Beasley and weeks later requested to be traded? He wore an orange tie at the introductory press conference, modeled their new uniforms…doesn’t sound like a man who wants out of town to me. I’ve read where he said he was ready to play his role in Phoenix…haven’t read where he said he requested that trade to Milwaukee. He’s going to his hometown team so I’m sure he’s excited about it. But show me where he said he requested this trade and I’ll believe it.

  • merriwether

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9610970/sources-milwaukee-bucks-deal-acquire-caron-butler-phoenix-suns

    relevant quote: “The 33-year-old has since been working out in Phoenix and was a featured player at the podium when the Suns recently unveiled a new uniform design. Sources, however, say McDonough has consented to allow Butler to realize a lifelong dream of playing for Milwaukee with the trade.”

    Butler also posted on twitter about having much respect for the Suns organization. My two cents, but he probably wouldn’t have respect for a team that was trying to flip him again just a couple of months after acquiring him — especially after he did all the right things with the jersey reveal and his leadership talk. Like you said, it’s probably the hometown thing that’s attractive to him.

  • Caboose

    Rather than call you an idiot and move on, I’d like to address this…

    1. Quentin Richardson/s best season was 17-6-2. Caron Butler surpassed those averages 4 separate times.

    2. Quentin Richardson has shot above 40% only 4 times out of 13 seasons. Out of 11 seasons, Caron Butler shot above 40% for 10 of them.

    3. Caron Butler’s career Win Shares per 48 are 20% higher than Quentin Richardson.

    4. For both of their careers, Caron Butler has better Offensive and Defensive Ratings.

    5. Quentin Richardson’s highest PER for a season was 17.4. Caron Butler surpassed that mark 3 separate times, with his best at an impressive 20.7.

    6. Quentin Richardson career Playoff averages: 8-4-1 on 40% shooting. Butler: 14-6-2 on 41% shooting.

    7. The one thing Quentin Richardson did better was shoot a slightly higher 3P%. That’s about it.

  • sulsbruck

    I look forward to watching them a little bit this season. They have a mix of players that just have so different resumes and paths. Sanders has a bright future and are going to be getting more responsabillity, O.J has shown us that he can be a complement to a team, but shouldn’t be either the first the second option. Caron is an established quality player who adds stabillity and wisdom, and Brandon Knight has the opportunity with more talent around him to find himself as an nba point guard with a solid backup in Ridnour. Henson is going to have to step up and play like he did in the summerleague and this team can be all right.

  • Alexzandar Davilijanovic

    exactly

  • Alexzandar Davilijanovic

    another playoffsless season in the fuukin’ desert

  • LakeShow

    Would have been either way. This move is actually good for the Suns. You don’t wanna winner like Caron on your team when Wiggins is on the table.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Demand and didn’t say no are two entirely different things

  • merriwether
  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    The thing is, you are assuming Butler wasn’t told..right off the bat, that he would be traded. And wasn’t asked for a team or set of teams he would prefer being traded too. And in the mean time, he would agree to be a sort of “face of the team” whole they unveiled their new jerseys (as the only All Star on the roster, his presence makes marketing easier). It’s all for appearance, I wasn’t saying the quote was exactly truthful, but it was not the exact opposite of reality. Butler has respect for the Suns because they were honest about acquiring him just for Bledsoe and his contract right off the bat. Not in that they acquiesced to trade demands from a player they planned on trading anyway.

  • merriwether

    You’re right, I didn’t view it that way. I have no problem with the “only acquired him for his contract” part. However, those aren’t usually the types of guys you’d market as a team leader, even when they arrive with All-Star appearances. (Not quite the same situation, but I remember that Phoenix themselves got another former All-Star in Ben Wallace after the Shaq salary dump and then waived him shortly afterward.) I think the overall moral of the story is that the Suns need promising talent very very badly.
    Whatever the situation was, I think we can all agree that Butler talked a good game, and now he’s in a somewhat better place.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    You can’t assume the casual fan base would understand trading for a former All Star that you just plan to give away later. It’s a crappy two way street

  • Bruce Wayne

    It’s good that you didn’t resort to name calling, simply because we are all adults here with differing opinions and there’s no need/tolerance for that.

    Nice job with the stats, but as someone who has watched Butler since Uconn, and QRich since DePaul, I was mostly referring to their playing styles. Versatile wings that could give it to you inside and outside. Not sure if you have watched both play over the years, but I wasn’t saying Butler wasn’t better than Richardson, simply making the point that Quentin in his day was very talented as well.

  • Interdico Scriptor

    October 30 bra.

  • The Seed

    I love his game, to bad he never got to stay with a team long enough to prove his worth. Clippers will miss him.

  • JackPackage

    LOL @ ‘If Beasley were smart’. I think it’s pretty safe to say that, that is not the case.

    If Beasley were smart, there wouldn’t be continual issues surrounding his career and he wouldn’t need a mentor like a 5 year old child.

  • JackPackage

    I can’t imagine they’d have to try very hard to give Kendall Marshall away. He’d be a better upside starter for some teams and certainly a better potential backup for almost all teams.

    Teams seriously can’t have given up on him after one season.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    He’s terrible

  • Jayvitch

    Has Beasley been waived yet?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    @Gambo620: Michael Beasley is down to his final days as a member of the Phoenix Suns. I expect him to be waived/released sometime in the next 48 hours

  • DMC14

    that still doesnt equal that he asked for the trade either way it doesnt matter. all that statement means is that hes playing for the team he grew up wanting to play for.

  • DMC14

    same. its a bit disapointing.

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