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Wednesday, October 9th, 2013 at 11:40 am  |  79 responses

Amar’e Stoudemire Thinks He Can Be Dominant Again


by Marcel Mutoni @ marcel_mutoni

The Amar’e Stoudemire Experience, once so thrilling and promising, has turned downright depressing for New York Knicks fans and players. Just ask Carmelo Anthony, who admits to being saddened by his teammate’s constant battles with injuries.

The only person who doesn’t seem all that bummed out, curiously, is Amar’e Stoudemire. STAT continues to say that he will somehow regain his old, dominant form.

Per Newsday:

As Amar’e Stoudemire shot on the far end of the court Tuesday, Carmelo Anthony said it’s “sad” to see his teammate continually fight back from injuries. Anthony is at the top of his game, but he knows he may never play with Stoudemire at an All-Star level again. “Yeah, I think about it,” Anthony said. “I think about it sometimes. He was one of the reasons why I wanted to come to New York. So for me not to have that chance, the opportunity to get a full season in and get a rhythm going with him, it’s not something I thought would happen.”

Stoudemire said “it’s a possibility” he could play in the Knicks’ regular-season opener Oct. 30. The six-time All-Star also remains confident he can return to his old form, but it’s another long road ahead following another knee surgery. Stoudemire and the Knicks haven’t divulged what the operation was. He said it was in the summer and “very, very minor.” But Stoudemire also had a debridement on both knees last season, limiting him to 29 games. That makes it hard to know when Stoudemire will be back, how compromised he will be and whether he will be effective. But all the surgeries didn’t affect his work ethic or self-confidence. “I do envision myself getting healthy and being able to dominate as I once did before,” Stoudemire said after a lengthy workout. “I can’t control injuries. All I can do is work extremely hard and do all I can do to prevent them and hopefully, this time will be the last time.”

There’s no telling when Stoudemire will get back on the court, and the Knicks appear ready to move on without him this season.

With a couple of years left on his gargantuan deal, Knicks fans are simply hoping Amar’e can contribute once he puts a uniform back on. As for dominance, that seems more fantasy than anything else at this point.

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  • AndyK415

    I feel for him…but I don’t think it will ever happen.

  • Ross Fawcett

    Too old. I really wish he could be scary and powerful again like in 2009 but I don’t think that would happen.

  • shockexchange

    The Shock Exchange once thought he could date Jayne Kennedy. What’s Amare’s point again?

  • JML-G

    all these injuries has made Amare’s career underrated.. people need to remember that without him Knicks wouldnt have Melo or the team they have now

  • JML-G

    all these injuries has made Amare’s career underrated.. people need to remember that without him Knicks wouldnt have Melo or the team they have now

  • The Philosopher

    Damn.

  • The Philosopher

    Damn.

  • shawnkemp4prez

    no Lola Falana reference? Color me shocked (you smell that pun?)

  • shawnkemp4prez

    no Lola Falana reference? Color me shocked (you smell that pun?)

  • shawnkemp4prez

    no Lola Falana reference? Color me shocked (you smell that pun?)

  • shawnkemp4prez

    no Lola Falana reference? Color me shocked (you smell that pun?)

  • shockexchange

    Ha Ha. Jayne Kenney v. Lola Falana? You’re splitting hairs.

  • shockexchange

    Ha Ha. Jayne Kenney v. Lola Falana? You’re splitting hairs.

  • shockexchange

    Ha Ha. Jayne Kenney v. Lola Falana? You’re splitting hairs.

  • shockexchange

    Ha Ha. Jayne Kenney v. Lola Falana? You’re splitting hairs.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    they wouldn’t have Melo? lol, he had absolutely nothing to do with that trade, what kind of broken reasoning is that?

  • Mike T.

    “The only person who doesn’t seem all that bummed out, curiously, is Amar’e Stoudemire.”
    20 million a year to sit courtside at every knick game and hop in every once in a while; I’d wouldn’t be all that bummed out either LOL

  • spit hot fiyah

    he has also probably had the most time to really think about his situation and come to accept it for what it is

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Yes he did. He was a big reason Melo came….He def increased the knick’s’ chances to get Melo.

  • The Philosopher

    His story is an inspiring story.
    Can’t imagine him being bitter.
    He’ll work to get back and live in the moment.
    In my opinion.

  • Osoarrogant_Sir

    It’s true, if you look at the Knicks roster compared to the Denver roster there wasn’t really a big difference both run and gun both high offense little to no defense, the only difference was they had a star power forward.. you think melo left a second seed nuggets to join 9seed Knicks just because? No he wanted a big three like LeBron had and LeBron Saud and I quote “I talked to Carmelo Anthony about joining Amare Stat and the knicks.”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    it’s the Knicks. in New York.
    .
    yes. Melo would have left for them, from Denver. In Denver.
    .
    don’t be naive.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    god you people are serious? Melo was traded there. It’s the Knicks. Melo gets to be a hero in the biggest brightest city in the country. The “mecca” of basketball. they could have had a bunch of D-league players, Melo would have gladly waltzed over there.

  • Dfrance

    Yall forgot the whole “I’m back home” crap Melo was on? He would have went to NY, with or without Amar’e.

  • danpowers

    aaand another drug test coming a knicks player’s way

  • LakeShow

    Lol, your boys LOVE hearing themselves talk haha.

    I am semi-rooting for the Knick’s though. Just to be a fun and competitive regular season team. I want Bargs, and Stat to resurrect a little bit and see Shump take the next step and Melo keep demolishing defenses.

  • Anthony

    Where is the player that made Starbury scowl and say to himself, “this dude is sick!”….
    Glad he’s paid, but as a basketball fan…melow, STAT and Ty Chandler all healthy and in tune would of been something to behold!

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Wait….You saying he would go to the Knicks, no matter who was on the roster is a TRUE LIE. Why would he go to that team with a gutted roster? You think Melo would have gone to NY with NO “superstar”…AND signed a contract extension??? Not to mention, be leaving a decent team to go sit at the bottom of the Eastern conference? And at the time, Miami had just gathered their dream team, so he would be guaranteed to LOSE every year.

    Remember, this was the mini-era in the NBA that everybody wanted to team up with everybody. So him just going to NY with no Amare there just doesn’t make sense. Amare being there played a nice sized role.

    And Melo was TRADED there, but he also Authorized the trade. He held the cards and chose his landing spot. He ALSO could have chosen Brooklyn, if you remember the meetings with Prokarav (sp).

    There was no guarantee Melo was going to the Knicks.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    see below…. this was the “buddy ball/team up/not 1 not 2 not 3″ era…please remember…..

  • LP @ThisisEther

    and i’m glad you put Mecca in quotations… because the city of new york hasn’t done a thing for basketball in decades….

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yes. he would have. it’s not even a debate. it’s New York. the market is much more important than his teammates.
    .
    you think a guy with a portrait of himself, over his own fireplace give’s a sh*t about who his teammates are?
    .
    you don’t think Melo wished New York didn’t spend that money on Amar’e but rather saved it for another summer so he could actually recruit whichever big name player he wanted, (CHRIS PAUL)? Really?
    .
    stop it. we all know Melo wanted to be in New York regardless of his teammates. the rumors that he wanted to go there started before Amar’e was signed anyway. you do realize that right?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk
  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    this is essentially what you are arguing,
    .
    “Carmelo wouldn’t have come to New York, because he didn’t have the confidence to think he could recruit other star players to the biggest market in the league”

    i really hope you see that.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    you send me an article that talks about Melo teaming up with Amare and CP3…are you trying to prove my point?? Melo wasn’t going there without plans in place. And it looks like the article was written AFTER Amare signed, so the article proves nothing.

    I thought you were sending an article quoting him as saying “I’m going to play basketball in New York no matter who’s there. I love NY. NYPD.”

  • LP @ThisisEther

    This is correct.

    And Especially if he had options to sign with a more talented team, no he would not have chosen NY……..WAY TOO many good teams floating in the Eastern Conference to be banking on your confidence to recruit star players…Bulls, Boston, Miami… He was in WIN NOW mode…

  • bball knowledge

    He wanted to play for the Nets or the Knicks in New York City regardless of who was on the team. Amare played for the Knicks at the time but I do not think that was a make or break decision. I think you are drawing too much from LeBron’s free agency decision in that he went to play with his best friend and that was an obvious reason to go to Miami. But Melo would either have played for the Nets who would have expanded to Brooklyn or the Knicks because its NY’s basketball team.

  • bball knowledge

    YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE FOR YOUR STUPID ASSUMPTIONS.

  • C.M.G

    melo was down to get traded to the nets at that time though…..and they definitely had a d-league roster….melo had a SMALL say in deciding where he went.he didnt have a no-trade clause in his contract…if the nets woulda gave up what denver was asking for then he definitely would be playing in brooklyn right now

  • bball knowledge

    Chandler, JR Smith, and Felton signed up to play for the Knicks because of Melo or they would have went elsewhere like other players did before with the Knicks.

  • C.M.G

    before carmelo came to new york Amare had them on the road to play-offs, when the 2nd best player was Wilson Chandler….Amare is a great talent…..but u can’t be dominant only playing 20-25 minutes a game to preserve your knees.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    If he was in win now mode he wouldn’t have left Denver. A better team.

  • bball knowledge

    Plus I think Melo even knew of Amare’s health issues when the Phoenix Suns came out with their statements about his future and Melo still wanted to go to the Knicks anyways.

  • Saleem Rainman

    Why dont we just take the mans word for it?

    ” He was one of the reasons why I wanted to come to New York.”-Melo.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    exactly.
    .
    it’s not like anyone thought Amar’e was a championship level guy, his problems were more than documented.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    because he wanted to go to New Jersey too. did he say that about Brook Lopez too?

  • danpowers

    not more than any other team’s players. the difference is just: when knicks players talk, media actually listens ;)

    yup, they’ll definitely be an entertaining team.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the article was showing that Chris Paul wanted to team up.
    .
    if you have any recollection of history, you’d know if was Amar’e who ended up making it impossible for the team to get Chris Paul (because of his contract)…so they settled on Tyson Chandler.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    But Amare already being there played a big part…. Melo possibly decides elsewhere if Amare isn’t there…the MIAMI thing, along with the lockout, also played a part…..

  • bball knowledge

    ummm he said this also:

    “That is one of the reasons why I wanted to come here to New York, just so I could take on those pressures and those challenges. A lot of people do not like to deal with the pressure. A lot of people do not know how to deal with the challenges they face. To me, it is everyday life.”

    He carried Denver for years, why couldn’t he carry New York by himself.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    NO, he did have a “a no-trade clause”…. him NOT agreeing to sign an extension was the “no-trade clause” for any team attempting to trade for him…..

  • LP @ThisisEther

    NO they didn’t… Felton and Chandler got TRADED away.

    and JR signed at a later time, not that this is relevant.

  • Saleem Rainman

    So how does that disprove that Amare was one of the reasons he wanted to come to New York?

  • Saleem Rainman

    okay cool but i seem to remember all of that last season with Denver , every single rumor it seemed like was about him going to New York and that is exactly where he wanted to go.

  • K_HOLIDAY

    Sorry Amare. It’s over for those days

  • LP @ThisisEther

    He was done in Denver, you know that wasn’t an option. They did all they could do there. “Win-Now mode playing for anybody but Denver”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Yeah I mean he wanted to go to New York more, Brooklyn was still years out, New York was a bigger reward for its risk. My issue is acting like Amar’e was the reason New York was preferred over anyone else. That’s nonsense

  • Dfrance

    I do remember that, still think Melo would have went to NY anyway, with the thought that he could attract other names to come team up with him.

  • Saleem Rainman

    i think he played a part.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Except he was down to go to New Jersey. Just cut it out. This is nonsense

  • bball knowledge

    Your telling me Melo naively signed off to get traded to the Knicks knowing of Amare’s health issues with his knees…I am pretty sure his agent or someone in his circle told him of those possibilities and he still wanted to go to the Knicks anyways. He wanted to play for NY to establish himself as a star and to hopefully build a contender around him. Knicks and Nets were pretty irrelevant for years anyways so there was always opportunity.

  • bball knowledge

    Chandler signed up through free agency because Dallas did not match his offer sheet and they wanted to re-build. Raymond left Portland because he did not want to play for them anymore.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Sure, a part. But if he wasn’t there? Melo wouldn’t have said, “nah, send me to Detroit” – Amare was a waste of money. Plain and simple. Melo is not so insecure that he needed Amare in New York. Again, Amare is what prevented them from even competing for Chris Paul. Because of documented issues that came up before Melo even came to the team. It’s like saying humans developed irrigation because we had to compete with Lions for food. Sure, you can say that “played a part” but it was hardly the reason.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    That never happened.

    Adrian Wojnarowski: “He’s told two teammates he would ultimately be fine joining the Nets, and pushed his agent, Leon Rose, to help construct a package of players to go to the Nets with him”

  • bball knowledge

    His chances of winning were higher in a big market. for example Howard wanted to play for Harden because Harden is a future star and has a big upside, can we say the same for Melo and Amare at that time…I don’t know about that fully.

  • bball knowledge
  • C.M.G

    that is not a no trade clause, that is called “leverage”. there is big difference between the two. and he would of definitely signed an extension with the nets….its obvious they will pay whatever to win….and who wouldnt want an owner with that mindset.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    And by the way, Deron Williams also had the same leverage. Nets traded for him anyway.

  • Kristie Winter

    He’s a freak of nature, and with the right team, he could easily dominate again.

  • LakeShow

    You realize injuries affect people right?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Or it’s just the sheer volume of media present to ask questions in New York vs Everywhere else lol. That would be the actual reason.

  • Evan Boland

    He says this every year. Sorry Amare, you’re done.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Thats the nets! prokorov (sp) was a desperate fazillionaire..that doesn’t count.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Portland sent felton to fat camp, he had no choice. they didn’t want him. we’re discussing before all of that happened tho, feltons first stint with NY

  • Guest

    Melo HAS to agree to sign an extension with the team that he is traded to. this means The trade would 98.999% not be accepted if he doesn’t sign an extension with the new team….. This might as well be a no-trade clause…. its a dealbreaker

  • danpowers

    absolutely right. i just thought it sounded a little more knicks-suitable the way i put it lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    No….he doesn’t. Just like with Deron Williams.

  • Jerome

    Old STAT? … yes. Dominant? … I don’t.think that word means what you think it means.

  • OneStep

    It’s good to dream.

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