Saturday, October 19th, 2013 at 3:00 pm  |  43 responses

Derrick Rose Says Heat are Bulls’ True Rivals Not Pacers

Prior to raining 32 points on the Indiana Pacers in a preaseason matchup, Derrick Rose dismissed any sort of rivalry with Indy. According to the Chicago Bulls’ superstar floor general, their only true rivals reside in South Beach. Per ESPN: “People say that it’s a rivalry, but I don’t really see it,’ Rose said before scoring 32 points in the team’s 103-98 win against the Pacers. ‘I say the team that is more like a rivalry is when Darren Collison was on the team. That one was more like a rivalry, but this team is a great team. They’ve already proven themselves last year by making it to the Eastern Conference finals. If anything, by probably in a year or two, it could become a rival. But right now, people say it’s a rival. … I just don’t see it right now.’ Rose and the Bulls defeated the Pacers in the first round of the playoffs in 2011. [...] Asked specifically if he felt the Heat were the Bulls’ biggest rival, Rose acknowledged that to be the case. ‘If you want say [that], yeah,’ he said. ‘For sure, Miami.’ For their part, the Pacers have repeatedly talked about the rivalry they feel they have developed with the Bulls over the years. ‘I think Chicago will always be a rival,’ Pacers forward Danny Granger said recently. ‘When you go to the United Center, it’s crazy. They have a big home-court advantage there. They have a huge following, not only locally in Chicago but nationally as well, and I think they’ll always be a rival to us. We’re really close, so a lot of times there’s a lot of Bulls fans here and vice versa. I think as long as we’re in the division, we’re going to be rivals.’”

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  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Pacers are a better team. That’ll be clipboard material

  • JML-G

    Rose just wants his due in the history as the first loser behind the champs from 305


    Pacers don’t stand a chance against the bulls. Yeah they pushed Miami farther down the playoffs. But Chicago has had the best record 2 of the past 3 years. And then only team with a winning record against the heat. Another quick look. Even though it is just preseason. Bulls are 5-0 while the pacers are 0-5. 2 of those games are against each other also.


    it’s not a rivalry rose. you lost in 5games in 2011 and 5games in 2013. pacers took the heat to 6 & 7 games respectively. rose looks pretty good in the preseason though

  • cbranson05

    i just think ppl fear d.rose. they know in their heart he is the biggest threat to their teams and favorite players glory. they’ll deny it, but the energy they invest in trying to devalue him speaks volumes

  • Dagger

    1. Preseason records mean absolutely nothing.
    2. Previous regular season records mean absolutely nothing.
    3. Chicago’s regular season record against the Heat specifically means absolutely nothing.

    Here’s what matters: how good the Pacers and Bulls will be this season, and, in particular, this upcoming postseason. Both are very talented teams. Both could beat the Heat. And you better believe that the Pacers stand a chance against any team in the league.

  • Shooting Guard

    Now its a rivalry

  • JibbsIsBallin

    I hope Rose is right. So far up to this point, the Pacers have proved to be the biggest rivalry for the Heat.


    Didn’t you read Dagger’s response? The past doesn’t matter. On paper the Pacers have a brick! But, its only one ball. The Heat are vulnerable. If the Heat didn’t have the influence of the NBA and the hand of David Stern, the Spurs would’ve been victorious. Let’s be real.

  • 3Chainz

    These past records DO MEAN SOMETHING WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT RIVALRIES!! Not who’s the better team or who’s winning the championship but RIVALRIES! It take history and recent success to build a RIVALRY!

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  • JML-G

    not true.. plus nobody is devaluing him

  • Dagger

    Okay, I get that you’re obsessed with rivalries.

    But I was responding to this claim: “Pacers don’t stand a chance against the Bulls.”

    They do. Does that mean the Pacers and the Bulls have a rivalry? I couldn’t care less.

  • 3Chainz

    Wow I see you’re not good at staying on topic. You brought up THREE points and neither had anything to do with the Pacers. I basically showed that you’re THREE arguments were all false.

    But you insist you were responding to the claim: “Pacers don’t stand a chance against the Bulls.”…..

  • Chester

    D.Rose : George Hill can’t guaaaarrrd me! Collision could keep up a little, but this Hill guy is a friggin turtle lol.


    another delusional heat hater. bye hater

  • King David

    this clown misssed a whole season tryna talk Ish, FOH

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    What about Paul George He guarded Rose in the playoffs awhile back?

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Pacers will get at the Bulls. I really think the East is better than the West. Look at the top 5 teams in the East and the Top 5 in the west.

    Dont put as much value in regular season because playoff match ups really determine the outcome. If pacers go against bulls they’ll win. The Bulls and Nets match up will be interesting. The Heat can get easily knocked out by either the Pacers, Nets, or Bulls if Lebron isn’t going. That’s pretty much it. IF Lebron fails the Heat Fail. If paul george fails you got west, roy hibbert low volatility but high reward perfect stock.

    Dagger I noticed you have to be from Toronto with that picture am I correct?

  • robb

    Derrick is great but the Pacers are deeper. It’s not gonna be so simple Mr. Rose.

  • 3Chainz

    Pacers lost in 5…………

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    I thought he did a pretty solid job but the bulls team overall out handled the pacers.



    The Heat won great! You must be like 12 if you believe the NBA doesn’t have a hand in certain outcomes. I think they can ball. I’m no hater. I’m a realest MUBBIE

  • Drig

    East is still top heavy.

    Coming out on top of the Western Conference is like going through 3 boxing matches back to back when everyone’s healthy.

    The top teams in the East are gonna have an easy first round in comparison.

  • fruizm

    Please delete yourself!

  • Debra Stephen

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  • pposse

    they are not

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  • pposse

    for one D Rose is the best player on the court. In every other position the Bulls matchup just fine, plus we have a bench consisting of Taj Gibson who is a starter on any other team, kirk hinrich, mike dunleavy and tony snell (who for all we know can become the next Kawhi Leanard). To blanketly say the Pacers are the better team is unwise.

  • PC

    It’s really a fair fight. Both are really good teams. Star guards, forwards and bigs.
    Yes Rose is a superstar, but I have to see him play during the actual season. He looks great in preseason, but for now, Paul George doesn’t pale in comparison to Rose judging from his impressive performance last season.
    Then you bring on Bull’s bench but give no credits at all to Pacers bench. If I’m not wrong, a guy by thr name of Granger comes off Pacer’s bench. You get the point.
    And Snell?! Really? Base arguments on facts, not could’ve/should’ve. Maybe Frank Vogul can come out and be the next D Rose?

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Lol don’t let braids deceive you about snell. Pacers are stronger bench and starting 5. Rose may be best on the floor.

  • pposse

    the pacers dont have a better starting 5. and i put that out there since both of them went to the same hs.

  • pposse

    the pacers are deep i agree. But Granger has a lot to prove after getting hobbled by knee injuries, coming back to only get hobbled again. He didn’t seem to take the D Rose approach which kind of makes him an after thought.

    Snell and Leaonard both went to the same hs, both were late first rounders and both have smilar build with good coaches around them. Its not really that far fetched to say that Snell has that potential. Those are facts buddy.

  • PC

    Agree and agree! Just that on the second point, you can ‘t use “potential” for the particular comparison.
    And back to the point, I think both teams are equally strong, if they were to match up in the playoff, they’ll probably go 7 games. Not saying that Bulls or Pacers is a better team.

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  • Toni Benz

    pacers are more formidable than bulls. rose is their only advantage, the rest pacers has the edge

  • Toni Benz

    Bulls will not win over this “new” pacers team. Chicago has only the best records in reg season, but playoffs, they have no records, but always an early exit. Pacers had gone farther in playoffs than bulls, just a game away from finals which bulls never had accomplished yet in rose 5 yrs tenure. Preseason is not a barometer for success. And doesn’t count for anything, neither will put you on top of the standings, or get you into the playoffs.. Let me tell you that last year, bulls won against pacers twice in preseason, but in reg season, pacers won 3 games over them. So pls stop being ignorant.

  • Toni Benz

    Who rose? the fake MVP?

  • Toni Benz

    he is the talk show queen

  • Toni Benz

    Pacers are more formidable

  • BornReady1

    I hope you feel Like a complete idiot now …now that the regular season has started everything you just said is couldn’t be anymore irrelevant and guess what homegirl the pacers just lit them up by 17 in the REGULAR season haha

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