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Wednesday, November 13th, 2013 at 11:00 am  |  49 responses

Lakers Don’t Want Steve Nash to Retire


… They won’t publicly admit it, anyway. Most Laker fans have given up on the ageing, broken-down point guard, but head coach Mike D’Antoni insists that Steve Nash still has something left to offer. Per the LA Times: “There’s always going to be a debate but we’re not going to debate it, talk about it,’ Lakers Coach Mike D’Antoni said Tuesday. ‘He’s going to try to get ready, he’s going to try to play and we’re going to try to win. It’s really simple for us. It’s not real difficult.’ Nash has already missed three of nine games and is out at least two more weeks because of nerve damage in his back, the latest injury to hit him since he joined the Lakers. But should he retire? He makes $9.3 million this season and $9.7 million next season. If he’s found physically unable to play by Lakers back specialist Robert Watkins, Nash still receives full compensation. The NBA would then do its due diligence, sending a league-appointed physician to verify the findings of Lakers doctors. If the league signed off, the final year of Nash’s contract would be completely removed from the Lakers’ salary cap — as long as he played in fewer than 10 games this season. The Lakers aren’t thinking that way. Neither is Nash. Plus, medical retirements are rare in the NBA. [...] The Lakers have nearly cleared their books for next summer: Nash, Robert Sacre ($915,243) and Nick Young ($1.2-million player option) are the only ones with guaranteed contracts. Even if the NBA didn’t approve a Nash retirement, the Lakers could use their ‘stretch provision’ to waive him next summer and spread out his final $9.7 million over three seasons. For now, Nash will work to return to the court, with medical retirement an option only if he is truly unable to make it back. ‘Steve will just have to get back as soon as he can and then we’ll see where we are,’ D’Antoni said.”

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  • LLC#12

    Nobody wants him to retire, but nobody wants to watch him in pain, struggle through what will be at best a mediocre season, harming his legacy in the process. I hope he can get right and be the player we know he can but, it’s not likely.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    It’s sad watching him every game he plays these days.

  • spit hot fiyah

    if the lakers can somehow save some money on that contract they should do whatever it takes, including asking him to retire

  • jmm

    Lakers Don’t Want Steve Nash to Ever Die.

  • pposse

    nash should retire and take over D’Antoni’s job.

  • Vince Gully

    Yeah. Steve is clearly not the same player. It hurts me just watching him try to move.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you do realize LA is 44-37 under D’Antoni right?

  • pposse

    yeah but im pretty sure in almost all nba circles its been established that D’Antoni is not a championship level coach; he might be good at making alright teams play up to their potential but he won’t get you to the big games. And since the trend in the NBA is to hire first timers i just threw Nash’s head in the coaching ring.

  • don

    another proof of the sun’s medical wonders… nash just broke down after leaving phoenix

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    ARE YOU UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE LAKERS ARE A COACH AWAY FROM A CHAMPIONSHIP?

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    It makes me cringe watching him play sometimes.

  • bike

    The fact that Nash has made it this far with his chronic back issue is a miracle in itself. It was worth a shot but….

  • RayJr

    !!!NEWS FLASH!!! A person’s athletic ability and body deteriorate with age! Just move on from Nash and while they are at it FIRE D’Antoni too.

  • pposse

    no, but if your coach aint championship caliber then he is useless imo

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    oh! because there are so many “championship” caliber coaches just floating around right? i think, you know, assembling a roster that can compete is the most important aspect of winning championships….this is a players league. And, even then, you need a coach to fire and blame things on when the team you put together looks better than it is. D’Antoni is basically serving a purpose as placeholder until the team is ready to take the next step.
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    assuming a guy who has put a team in position to compete for a title multiple times is really not a championship level coach.

  • pposse

    you shouldn’t get paid 4 million dollars a yr to be mediocre as a coach or a place holder. Assembling the roster is the GMs responsibility, not the coaches. D’antoni’s system came to a crashing stop at the end of every season that they showed success in. I too was a believer at one point, but looking back at it it was only fool’s gold that we were staring at.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Except there is no actual rational reasoning behind saying he’s been mediocre. —> and looking at every team that loses in hindsight says that they weren’t going to win. Pretty broken world view if that’s how you see things. Every team that ever loses (which is 29 of 30) wasn’t going to win in hindsight, therefore all coaches outside the actual winner is just fools gold.

  • pposse

    well lets see, not winning ONE game in the playoffs with DH- Pau is enough for me, his unwillingness to play a style of ball that is best for his constructed teams etc.

    The only team that semi played like a D’Antoni led team are the Miami Heat (offensively speaking). All championship teams play a specific style of ball, none of which (besides Miami) are similar to D’Antonis.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Not winning one game with a team full of guys who gave up on the season a week before the playoffs started….. .
    The show time Lakers won 5 titles running a system a lot like D’Antoni’s…. .
    It’s just about having the right players. Like any and every system is.

  • JoeMaMa

    His legacy is set – but I agree with everything else. He’s basically done, but it’ll be really nice to have him healthy and contributing. He’s a blast to watch when healthy.

  • robb

    As you know, basketball has changed a lot since those championships in the 80′s. No team can win a championship in this era playing that kind of system. D’Antoni’s a smart, creative coach, but I don’t see him winning an NBA championship. Him winning a championship in the NCAA could definitely happen but in the NBA? forget it.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    in what world does that make sense? his system would work in a more defensive heavy, less offensive focused division of basketball?
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    and i do know that. i also know the NBA is doing everything in it’s power to get the game back into the exciting brand of basketball that was prevalent in those days. (fast paced, high scoring, entertaining brands of basketball).
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    i also know that D’Antoni has never had a real fair shake at winning a title. His Phoenix teams regularly over achieved, or were cut short by things outside of their control. He has never had a premiere playmaker playing with a premiere rim protector. I just don’t at all believe he “can’t” win a title. i don’t believe any coach “can’t” win, i just think there is degrees to which a coach can help. D’Antoni not at all being in the elite group of those guys …. is still one of the better coaches in the league. ANd he definitely can win. just hasn’t had the right situation to do it in.

  • CKLOH

    Nash’s legacy cannot be indexed by a statistical meridian. His prime with M. D’Antoni’s style and Amar’e Stoudemire’s pre-chronically injured state from 2005-2010 changed the way the League played basketball.

    It’s a small tragedy – writing of which, and more importantly, I wish to express my deepest condolences for the situation in the Philippines and other calamities not limited to the health of millionaires. The Filipino basketball community offers a unique dynamic to the game in Canada and I’ve only ever experienced good friendships with them – that Nash’s hybrid style of West, Penny, Stockton, Thomas, and Magic did not produce a well-earned championship, but was otherwise the quintessential basketball player. The Suns were robbed of rings by the League in 2007. They would have defeated Cleveland as easily as San Antonio did were it not for David Stern and Stu Jackson.

    Neurological damage is the trickiest balance for an athlete to maintain, especially when it encompasses one’s back & legs. Nash could play predominantly left-handed, say, if his elbow was the fractured source. But that is not the case.

    Farmar had assumed Nash’s role when the latter took the court after J.K. and K.J. in Phoenix, but now we’re going to see what he is truly capable of once more (ie, championship-level point guard quality).

  • MasterSplinter

    NBK – 1 pposse – 0

  • pposse

    but thats what I’m talking about. Everyone knew that the Spurs would destroy the Lakers, but for a team anchored by DH to get blown out over and over? Some of that has to fall on the coach, part of coaching is to coach up your players, not allow them to pack it in 10 days ago or whatever it was. And plus, I don’t know if there will ever be a basketball player in this universe that can run a pick and roll the way Nash did; he was the brett hart of pick and rolls.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Dwight hide 1 and 9/10ths of a foot out the door. Save me from that terribly misplaced criticism.

  • KC

    Nash was a great player but his time has passed. He has more to give???? What starting PG in the league could he hope to guard even in his dreams? At a certain point you have to decide to age gracefully and hang it up. Whether the Lakers are prepared to admit it or not, they need a complete rebuild! Kobe returning from a serious inury is not going to put them into contention for a title. Yes there’s free agency but there aren’t many other stars that desire to play Kobe. Maybe they could land melo but there aren’t enough basketballs in the world for those two to share. Also, who is going to play defense, rebound, and set up teammates? LA is a desired destination only if Kobe isn’t there. Dwight would have stayed and it would have been much easier transition. Lakers do yourself a favor, amnesty nash, sign and trade Kobe to a contender(memphis??) and trade Gasol (Chicago?) to a contender. Let it go!

  • pposse

    if his foot was out the door then he should have been benched! I mean if you can see this then what is stopping D’Antoni from seeing this?? You just helped me come up with a great way for the coaching/gm’s/owners to take back the league! Bench the guys that are going to leave..who cares if the media attacks you just tell them “his foot was out the door, so i nudged him!”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    He was still the best chance they had at winning. It’s not a freaking simple problem. And you really making this big of a deal out of a single game in a playoff series they had no chance of winning. Think about it.

  • pposse

    Yeah one game is huge, cause one can turn to two and if he gets two wins he earns the lakers another home game.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • Sean Superstar Juan

    Another thing could be the rapid decline of a 39 year old man playing professional basketball at the highest level. His last 4 full years as far as games played are 81, 75, 62, and 50. That Suns “medical staff” thing is a myth.

  • Sean Superstar Juan

    “Not winning one game with a team full of guys who gave up on the season a week before the playoffs started”

    That’s simply false and it’s no two ways around it. The Lakers went 5-0 the last week and a half to make the playoffs and Mike D’Antoni was West Coach of the month in April after leading the Lakers to a 7-1 record and the final playoff spot. They got swept with Dwight and Pau and showed no fight in the playoffs. That’s on the coaching.

  • kbak

    trade nash or let him retire. fire dantoni
    the lakers have become a pathetic suns team

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Lol, you are under the impression that a week is how long? And are y’all really this naive to think the Lakers got swept because of coaching? Really?

  • Evan Boland

    D’Antoni is serving as a placeholder waiting for the next step instead of hiring Phil Jackson? I don’t think so. Jim Buss is just a fool. He really had faith in the guy.

  • Tad

    He didn’t “break down”. These are all issues stemming from the broken leg he suffered in the weird collision with Lillard last year. Freak injuries have nothing to do with who his doctors are.

  • Tad

    lol Memphis.

  • Guest

    I cant even remember the last time Nash sat on the bench, instead of laying down on the court.

  • Tad

    Because a lineup of Darius Morris, Andrew Goudelock, Metta World Peace coming off knee surgery just 2 weeks earlier, Pau Gasol playing with severe knee tendinitis, and a Dwight Howard playing with a torn shoulder labrum should have definitely beaten the Western Conference Champs at least once.

    The Lakers went 20-8 after the All Star break last year when the team was semi healthy. It was clear to everyone that MDA was making the right adjustments to his roster.

  • havoc33

    I’d say playing Kobe 48 a game had a lot to do with those results. Not D’Antoni’s smartest decision, but yeah that’s what you get with a coach who’s known for running his starters into the ground.

  • Tad

    So you’re blaming all the injuries the Lakers had last year on MDA?

  • havoc33

    Um, no. I’m saying playing Kobe that type of minutes maybe wasn’t the smartest thing ever.

  • Sean Superstar Juan

    Hence the phrase “week and a half”. Playing semantics won’t get you anywhere with me. Your “gave up on the season” line was just false.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    they gave up on the post season. i apologize for not making that more simple to understand.

  • Sean Superstar Juan

    Sometimes, a simple “I was wrong” would suffice. Snarky retorts indicating that somehow the reader is wrong for misinterpreting your erroneous claims will work for some but not me. You tried to defend D’Antoni and were flat out wrong. That’s all.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    nah, LOL, i have no problem saying i’m wrong. they didn’t give up on the regular season, and in that it came off that way sure, i’m as wrong as can be. but i meant, they gave up on their chances of winning the day Kobe tore his achilles. That’s what I was inferring. I just figured you people would associate what I said, to the events that took place. Either way, i’m saying them not winning a playoff game last season is not proof that D’Antoni can’t ever win a title.
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    because otherwise i would (like you guys are arguing, and don’t realize it) that literally no coach who has ever been swept at any point, can ever win a title.
    .
    talk to Pat Riley about how well that world view shakes out.
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    talk about being wrong, let’s just focus on the actual point being discussed, and who is actually wrong.

  • MikeC.

    Can’t amnesty Nash. Lakers amnestied MWP. They only get one.

  • MikeC.

    Sarver effed that team in so many ways by refusing to pay players. Fire sale of draft picks (giving away Rondo and Nate Robinson), and the traveshamockery of a “trade” that essentially donated Kurt Thomas (back when he still had a taste of game) and a draft pick to the Sonics. Bye bye essential tough guy and future first rounder. Sarver …

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