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Thursday, December 12th, 2013 at 10:10 am  |  47 responses

Doc Rivers Says Celtics May Have Won 2-3 Consecutive Titles With a Healthy Kevin Garnett

Boston fell in love with Doc Rivers and the 2008 NBA champion Celtics. According to the former C’s head coach, had Kevin Garnett’s health not failed him, Beantown would have celebrated a few more titles. Per the Boston Globe: “I did wish it could’ve ended better, I guess,’ Rivers said. ‘It wasn’t like Danny (Ainge) and I were arguing or anything. It was dragged out. I don’t know if there was any way you couldn’t drag it out. It wasn’t like I was involved in that. The part I was involved in was where I couldn’t make up my mind what I wanted to do … but then after that went through, the process with the two teams, I felt like it took two months. It may have. That’s how it felt. The strange part for me during that whole thing, I just had to sit there and listen and watch, and that part I hated, because it made everyone look bad, and I didn’t like that.’ [...] On what he thinks about most from his time in Boston: ‘They said it was going to be a two- or three-year run (with the Big Three of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen), but I never bought into that. Now we stretched it to, what, six years? Listen, the championship is what I’ll remember. It’s not what I think about the most, unfortunately. In a sad way, I think about 2010 far more than I think about 2008 … I think about 2009 a lot. I tell people, we were the best team in the league in 2009 and then when Kevin (Garnett) went down obviously we were never the same ever. I should just look back on 2008 and be thankful, but I don’t think coaches ever work that way. I swear, I believe if Kevin was healthy, we could’ve won two, maybe three in a row. That would’ve been really sweet.’”

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  • LLC#12

    No doubt, a healthy KG in 2009, and a healthy Perk in the finals in 2010, could have put them in the history books with a threepeat. It’s easy to forget now they’re all role players, but for a couple years, KG, Pierce and Allen might have been one of the most talented trios ever.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    They would have won with Healthy perk so true man that game was terrible the lakers got every call too.

  • pposse

    even if KG was healthy in 09 and they won could have catapulted them to the victory in 2010. Mind even Perkins being healthy or not. If Kobe lost two consecutive finals in a row 08 and 09 they Lakers may not have even made it back to the finals. KG will go down as one of the all time greats regardless but man that injury in 09 took him out of top 10 discussions imo.

  • robb

    KG a top 10 player??? lol what are you talking about?

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    As much as it pains me to agree with you (Laker fan obviously) but you’re right. We got so many offensive rebounds in that Game 7 and I have to say if Perkins would have been starting with Sheed coming off the bench they would’ve never squandered that lead.

  • pposse

    yup imagine if they won 3 rings, he would have been right there neck and neck with Tim Duncan who many say is a top 10 ball player.

  • Saleem Rainman

    oh no doubt.

  • uqk

    “IMAGINE IF” duncan hit that game 7 hook shot over battier..he would have got 5 rings
    still would be better than KG

  • LakeShow

    Did you forget that Bynum was injured in both Finals they met the Lakers?

    The guy that put up 19-12-2 on 56% when he was healthy in his last season as a Laker….

  • LakeShow

    T-Ray… Common man.

    No.

    We had just as many injuries we were dealing with.

    Kobe, Pau, and Bynum should have won several in a row. If you look at it in the same lens.

  • LakeShow

    Eh em…. Healthy Bynum was missing too if you’re going to bring up “if’s” and “but’s.”

  • pposse

    yup and no one would be denying him as a top 10 all time. IMO Duncan and KG are the gold standards for power forwards. IF KG won more titles he is clear cut #2 behind TD all time.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Oh trust me man I know we had our share of injuries but I just feel that Game 7 was theirs had they not lost Perk. Oh best believe I feel we could’ve easily won 3 in a row with possibly 4 trips to the finals. We were that good.

  • Saleem Rainman

    yh but this was years before his last year, he wasnt a 19-12-2 guy back in 09 or 10.

    Plus the team was MUCH better with odom out there and Pau playing the post, so truly they had their best line up out therem without bynum.

  • LLC#12

    In ’10 Perks injury completely took him out of the equation in game 7, at least Bynum could hobble up and down the court.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    bro the refs were more effective than a healthy bynum. rewatch on nba tv.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

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  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

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  • Saleem Rainman

    Waleikum Salaam

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

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  • LakeShow

    What if Bynum was fully healthy and the Celt’s with a fully healthy Perk?

    I still think the Lakers have that match up..

    Bynum >>>> Perk

  • LakeShow

    Really the ref’s did more in that series than a 7’0″ center capable of 20-10-3 could?

    Get out here with that BS.

  • Saleem Rainman

    i watch em as is, good stuff.

  • niggabitch

    in 2009 the magic took 7 games to beat boston without KG even playing and they still got a game against LA in the finals

    boston wouldve murdered LA in 2009

  • LakeShow

    Bynum has always been a 15-20ppg with 10 boards guy when healthy. Any time he get’s 30 mins in a game he will be near those numbers.

    That’s why this is so ridiculous.

    Oh if KG did this, and Perk was that…

    I’m just evening out the “what if” playing field here.

    If you’re going to talk about what the Celtics could do when healthy might as well talk about what the Lakers could do when healthy too.

    If you think not having Bynum helped them… I don’t know what to say.

  • LakeShow

    Very well done mathematical analysis there buddy.
    lmao…

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Yes bynum has potential but watch the game. The lakers won due to REFs… we know refs favor teams this is historically documented

    Plus when kobe was putting up tough stats lakers were losing games. pau shoulda won mvp finals

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    mashAllah may the Uncreated Creator guide free willed beings on the Truth in this life and the Hereafter

  • Saleem Rainman

    ah idk about that man, cuz the argument cud be made that the team was more effective without bynum on the floor. you wont find anyone saying the team was better off without KG.

    and you saw what a healthy bynum could do with that LA team, he got his 19 points, got his double digit boards, stayed relatively healthy, and at the same time threw off pau’s game by having 2 post players, and sorta forcing him out to shoot 15 footers. instead of in the post where he was best, and with odom replacing bynum, which was their best line up, and fell short of the 3 peat.

  • Saleem Rainman

    lol wut

  • LakeShow

    I don’t think you’re seeing the picture clearly here.

    You’re saying the Lakers were better off without a dominant 7 footer being able to play serviceable mins…

    Here is Pau Gasol’s best statistical line he put up as a Laker:

    18.3 – 11.3 – 3.4 – 1.7 on 54% fg’s

    Here is his stat-line playing alongside Bynum during his best year:

    17.4 – 10.4 – 3.6 – 1.5 on 50% fg’s

    The numbers are just slightly below his best season.

    Pau is great at being a minimal Stretch post player. Like Duncan. Occasional 15 footer, but mainly post play.

    He worked off Bynum fantastically.

    I’m sorry but you won’t get me to think the Lakers were better off without an injured All-Star caliber player. I get your point, but Bynum playing 25-30mpg healthfully would have made that Lakers squad unstoppable.

  • LakeShow

    basketball

  • LakeShow

    NO.

    You have never proven yourself to be taken seriously on here, i’m not going to listen to your conspiracy theories regarding the game.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    conspiracy theory lol get out of here argument from ignorance. This is documented in public records Tim Donaghy. My intention is never expose an immoral action to slander a human being. Everyone makes immoral actions. May the Uncreated Creator forgive all free willed living beings

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    ok about basketball freestyle about basketball

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  • LakeShow

    I know all about it thanks.

  • LakeShow

    You can say ref’s changed the outcome of every finals series ever.

    It’s a moot point.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    ever no i never said that. It was so obvious how the officiating was pulling for the lakers… never have i seen that in a championship game.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    not that Bynum….do you not remember Bynum in those seasons? he was not at all the player he turned into a couple years later.

  • BigAl#13

    Why listen to Yasir Qadhi. He isnt even Sunni and he’s from BID’AH!

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    As Salamu Alaykum ikwa,

    Ikwa We are Ahle Sunnat Wal Jammat. Allah SWT knows whose rightly guided

    Ikwa plz assist me in giving dawah. If i speak incorrectly or say anything out of line please inform me

  • LakeShow

    Yeah he was. Not the exact player, but damn close. Those injuries hampered the hell out of him man.

    You know how I was telling you all how all he needed was just to be healthy and he would be a huge force and he showed exactly that.

    He was always unstoppable when healthy. Always.

    Do you remember him as a rookie schooling Shaq? He always had the big boy skills. It’s just been physical for him.

  • Shiraz Rehman

    Bynum was not a center capable of 20-10-3 during that stage in his career! Lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Lol your memory is playing tricks on you. Yes, I remember Andrew Bynum’s singular basket as a rookie. Exhibiting Potential and Fulfilling it are different. It took him a long time to figure out how to fulfill it consistently. Injuries maybe were a part of it, but it’s not like he was occasionally injured like Perkins or Garnett, he stayed hurt. He just wasn’t good enough at that time because he wasn’t yet good enough. Injuries or not. http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=onealsh01&p2=bynuman01
    There is Andrew Bynum’s career “schooling” Shaq….. I mean, he did score in double figures twice

  • LakeShow

    Did I say his career head to head with Shaq was statistically awesome?

    So let’s see here. He only played over 30 mins in 1 game against Shaq.

    And in that one he put up 18-10.

    So looks like IF he gets the mins and is healthy he is a beastly double-double. That was in 2006….

    He averaged 13-10-2 on 64% fg’s in his third year in 28mpg…

    The guy is a beast and always has been. Injuries are all that ever held him back.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Lol so you not only read the link wrong, but didn’t read my comment?

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