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Sunday, December 22nd, 2013 at 3:41 pm  |  88 responses

Dwyane Wade Gets Engaged to Actress Gabrielle Union

Saturday night, Dwyane Wade proposed to longtime girlfriend Gabrielle Union, and the actress said yes. Congrats, D-Wade! Per the Miami Herald

Miami Heat guard Dwyane Wade apparently asked longtime girlfriend and actress Gabrielle Union to marry him at the team’s holiday party Saturday night. According to Wade’s Instagram account, it went well.

“She said YES!!!” Wade said on Instagram, alongside a picture of the couple’s hands with a large diamond engagement ring on Union’s finger.

Wade and Union began dating in 2007.

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  • JML-G

    good for him, they a nice couple

  • brothasdontsurf

    As long as we get to see more of Gabrielle Union im hyped

  • http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com/ Off The Backboard

    Today I learned that Gabrille Union is 41 years old. What??

  • KingBenjamin
  • fruizm

    “HEAT.ME.LOOK AT ME.” hahaha he does look like him though!

  • Max

    And some people really believe this is real lol.
    So funny when he says how he really looks like DWade he goes from crying to as big a smile u can get.

  • TriggaMan

    He is on some lebrin ish right now.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Nothing to do with basketball. nothing. Personal life of wade. how does this relate to his basketball ability. Does slam publish referees who are getting engaged or administrators of the nba getting married?

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    No matter how much she or any female or male tries to beautify themselves and build their bodies; every soul shall taste death. The Creator reverses every human in aging. Notice that when we are young we are helpless infants and the same happens when we reach the geriatric ages

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    The lewdness, over pornified culture, immodest dressing of both male and female of the global civilization are minor (not the 10 major signs) signs toward the Day of Judgement.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    triggaaaa mayneee how you do

  • pposse

    but yet you come on here constantly and post unrelated basketball news and constantly dig to find info on commenters personal lives. A classic example of the pot calling the kettle black.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    I am accused of it and I am told not to do so. However, when anyone else does it it’s cool. I want to know the audience I speak to is it wrong. Furthermore I don’t know if the sources that are attached to a disqus are trustworthy. They could be alter internet personas who knows.

  • pposse

    its not about what other people do, its about what YOU just accused and asked for Slam not to do but then YOU do the same thing in return. Own it bruh.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    We all share humanity and the same Uncreated Creator and will all be resurrected for the day of judgement. I think its important I inform everyone I can. And it’s not a blind belief nor a pascal’s wager. Any book claiming to be from a supernatural origin needs critical examination.

  • Ugh

    *sigh*
    Okay. Let me know how I do.

    You’re under 20.
    Probably from a middle class family.
    Diagnosed with some behavioural issue in your teens, probably nothing violent.
    In the last year or two your issues escalated, possibly due to stress. Possibly a death in the family? Maybe a lack of direction once school finished? Perhaps a loss of your social circle when you stopped going to school?
    Discovered Islam in the last year or two, previously had no real interest in any religion.
    Your favourite thing about Islam is that Muhamad was an illiterate dude who rose to be the messenger of Allah, proving that someone with little prior success can grow up to be the greatest man who ever lived and can save everyone else.

    How many did I get out of six? Be honest now. Feel free to give explanations of why I’m wrong if I am wrong on any.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    I’ll be honest because I know there are two angels recording my deeds.

    1. 24 yo US citizen by birth

    2. Graduated from a top 20 undergraduate institution with a chemistry degree

    3. Currently a medical student in the US

    4. I converted to Islam approx 2 years ago former atheist. I first began believing Islam was truthful after examining the narration about the open heart surgery of Prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him as a child and how his companions witnessed the scar. However, that only caught my interest, then I really began intensely studying.

    5. Here is my view: Religions aren’t meant to solely be an opiod of the masses. Religions’ foundational source text provide an absolute nature to reality. It is impossible for multiple narrations to be correct.. Only 1 Narrative can be Truthful. Study your religion like your scholars. When a book claims to be the WORD of God/the Uncreated Creator – who is all KNOWING (encompasses infinite knowledge) isn’t it important to examine if it’s truthful 100%. I mean Science could never and will never be able to tell you about heaven, angels, day of judgement. Only the texts from God/Uncreated Creator generated those concepts. Shouldn’t humanity get together and critically scrutinize the veracity of each document claiming to be from a supernatural origin?

  • Ugh

    1) Close, but no cigar.
    2) Doesn’t address my statement.
    3) Inadvertently addresses my statement, Win!
    4) Win!
    5) Doesn’t address my statement. Sure rambles a bunch, though.

    My score: 2/3 confirmed, 2 pending.

  • Ugh

    Oops, you only answered five.
    I’ll take “Graduated from a top 20 undergraduate institution with a chemistry degree. Currently a medical student in the US” as confirmation you’re from a middle class family. Interesting you didn’t address that.
    Win!
    Updated score: 3/4, 2 pending.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    why do you focus on me instead of focusing on the message

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    What 2 are pending? Again there are over billion muslims in the world with diverse backgrounds – 23% Arab. Don’t focus on my background or any individuals’ background. Focus on the message. The Holy Qur’an.

  • Ugh

    I ask these questions because I want to understand why you post on here. In all the time you’ve been doing this your posts on Islam haven’t registered a single upvote that I’ve seen. I’ve never seen anyone except me even actually comment on the Islamic content – pposse above just got ticked off at your irrefutable hypocrisy, not your Islam.

    Why do it here? You can answer ‘because the message needs to be spread everywhere’, but this has to be in the category of ‘least likely place you’ll be able to get your arguments across’ – it’s a forum where Islam is unrelated to the topic: it’s a non-intellectual, non-spiritual pursuit that is primarily a form of entertainment for us. We’re not in a headspace to accept what you’re saying, true or not. We come here with purpose – basketball. And the internet, especially forums, are not places where arguments are actually won. They’re just had. People are more likely to listen to you if you talk to them in person. You must have noticed that, unless you don’t actually talk to people about it in person (which is why I noted possible behavioural issues in your past – frankly, you come off as slightly Aspergic). So why do you keep doing it?

    The reason I focus on you is because the answer to why you do this isn’t spiritual. It’s personal – psychological, emotional, etc. You don’t seek out successful strategies for spreading the message, you use ones that are doomed to fail, which someone of your apparent education should be able to understand is doomed to fail.

    Why? Because actually spreading the message successfully doesn’t occur to you. Your Imam doesn’t do this, does he? He talks in the mosque and maybe on street corners, and works in charities where motivators can be seen in person. Nobody can argue that Islam is a religion that preaches kindness if someone who gives alms to the poor or ill can explain why he does it in Islamic terms. You can’t do any of that here, beacuse there is no reason to post it here. What are you teaching us other than Islam can post unrelated topics on forums that nobody will engage with or pay attention to? (Except me. And it’s obvious I’m also not very interested in your Islamic theories, either.)

    Being *seen* as spreading the message is important to you. Why you post here eludes me, but maybe I underrate Slam’s coolfactor or something. Maybe this IS the place to be seen posting things. I have no idea.

    Furthermore, your arguments are so flawed they don’t need engaging with. And every time I’ve done it you’ve backed away from my questions or changed the topic, which also indicates you aren’t confident in your understanding of Islam, be it true or otherwise, but rather you’re concerned with appearing to have all the answers, which is why you retreat from possible difficulty. Which is about you, not about Islam.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    “The reason I focus on you is because the answer to why you do this isn’t spiritual. It’s personal – psychological, emotional, etc. You don’t seek out successful strategies for spreading the message, you use ones that are doomed to fail, which someone of your apparent education should be able to understand is doomed to fail.” The confusion caused by the ideology of Democracy stems from a notion that all religious ideologies are equal. Why are religions grouped as one entity? If a religion’s veracity is proven false, then other religions suffer this perception. Why do atheist/agnostic have a superior view of truth? Look at how government official called religions an Institution. Many individuals find that ppl of any faith perform similar deeds such as giving charity but this doesn’t demonstrate the veracity of a religion does it? Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Atheist can all donate to a poor but how does this engage in the Pursuit of Truth

    Why? Because actually spreading the message successfully doesn’t occur to you. Your Imam doesn’t do this, does he? He talks in the mosque and maybe on street corners, and works in charities where motivators can be seen in person.–> I spread the message on any forum I get a chance to. I speak about it any opportunity I get. I don’t want to unveil my good deeds at of a fear of immodesty. As a rational individual I want you to reflect on what infinite means. You’ve read the Holy Qur’an, you’ve read the descriptions about the Day of Judgement, Heaven, and Hell. Don’t you think that a Book claiming to be from the Uncreated Creator is more important than entertainment.

    “Furthermore, your arguments are so flawed they don’t need engaging with. And every time I’ve done it you’ve backed away from my questions or changed the topic, which also indicates you aren’t confident in your understanding of Islam, be it true or otherwise, but rather you’re concerned with appearing to have all the answers, which is why you retreat from possible difficulty. Which is about you, not about Islam.”

    Pull up evidence so I can clarify because when I discussed religion with you claimed to have knowledge of Islam but never provided why you thought it wasn’t truthful in its claim w/ objective reproducible evidence

  • initbruv

    So what?

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    “You are nothing but a number of days and whenever a day passes a part of you passes away” Hasan Al-Basri. Focusing on beautifying the outward appearance to appear fashionable, hip, attractive is a waste of time and also possibly morally wrong due to immodesty. Time will either benefit you or harm you in the grave and on the day of judgement.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhCn0jf46U

  • initbruv

    Ok if you say so.

  • initbruv

    Well yeah it does because he is a major member of the basketball community and it was he who posted the info about them getting married via Instagram. And people care because they are star f*ckers (myself included to some degree).

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    I agree with your first statement. It doesn’t answer how his engagement has anything to do with his basketball game.

    The stars breathe and eat the same air and nutrient you do. They are born and die alone just like you and me.

  • initbruv

    It’s the star who shared the information so that is on him. I am letting him “breathe and eat the same air and nutrient” as me.

  • initbruv

    Also the article is not disguised as being about basketball, as a sport. There are lots of articles on here that aren’t explicitly about the game itself.

  • Ugh

    Sure, I’ll put up evidence and because this post is right here, I’ll source my evidence from there
    .
    1) I never once claimed to have no knowledge of Islam. This statement is false and you cannot find anywhere on this forum that I ever said it. An argument with a false statement is a flawed argument.

    2) The following statement has several problems: “The confusion caused by the ideology of Democracy stems from a notion
    that all religious ideologies are equal. Why are religions grouped as
    one entity? If a religion’s veracity is proven false, then other
    religions suffer this perception. Why do atheist/agnostic have a
    superior view of truth?”
    A) You haven’t proven a link between my view of democracy and my view of religion, you’ve assumed it. I can simply refute this statement by saying I don’t believe in democracy and the statement becomes irrelevant. Follow the Law of Parsimony, it will improve your argument.
    B) “Why are religions grouped as one entity?” I never said they were. You’ve assumed that. Having not proven the link here, this point is also flawed.
    C) “If a religion’s veracity is prove false, then other religions suffer this perception.” Given that I have already denied being a democrat, this is irrelevant and has no bearing on the conversation. Follow the Law of Parsimony.

    3) “You’ve read the Holy Qur’an, you’ve read the descriptions about the Day
    of Judgement, Heaven, and Hell. Don’t you think that a Book claiming to
    be from the Uncreated Creator is more important than entertainment.”
    A) Note: These two sentences only make sense if linked, otherwise the first sentence is totally irrelevant. I will, for the sake of argument, assume they are intended to be related. This could be more clear, but is not in itself a flaw. Just pointing that out.
    B) You seem to imply here that having read the Qur’an I (x) believe the descriptions of Judgement, Heaven and Hell are true, accurate or meaningful and (y) that I care. I could have read it and thought the first was accurate but accepted than I’m doomed to Hell, in which case I don’t relate the Qur’an as being important even if true. I could also have read it and not taken those descriptions seriously, also making it unimportant to me. What that means for your argument is that you’ve assumed that having read it I care either way, but I haven’t given you any indication of that. This is a flaw.
    C) “Don’t you think that a Book claiming to be from the Uncreated Creator is more important than entertainment.” Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that I’ve read every book that claims to be from the Uncreated Creator. That’s actually a decent amount of reading. Let’s also assume I’ve read books that claim to be inspired by the same, and listened to conversation about it, but that this is not actually _from_ him (this is theology, which you have to admit is important – you’re doing it now). Now, having read a book that _claimed_ to be that, I would have to study all of these books and works of theology with equal veracity as what I have with Islam. After all, proving one religion wrong doesn’t mean all other are, right? So I have to study all of them equally. This task would consume my entire life. As a student of chemistry and medicine, I think it’s safe to say you think other things are also worth studying. In fact, studying basketball seems to be worthwhile to you because you do actually comment on basketball and on pop culture. So now you’re telling me the Qur’an is more important than basketball while also taking about basketball, which is an unresolvable flaw. You’re also saying that one religion is more accurate than others and that all religions aren’t equal, while simultaneously making an appeal to the claims (and specifically the _claims_) of the Qur’an, rather than the truth of the Qur’an. This is also an unresolvable flaw.

    4) You’ve demonstrated some confusion as to understanding the difference between (a) the truth of the Qur’an and (b) your arguments. You frequently conflate the two, so when I say your argument doesn’t make sense, you think I’ve typed ‘The Qur’an isn’t real or true’.
    I can’t decide if this is because you conceptually don’t understand the difference between the two, or if you have some comprehension problems. Any ideas?

  • Caboose

    What counts as lewd or over-pornified? Relative to the Qur’an, me dressing in a sportcoat, polo, and jeans is lewd. If that was the case, the sign has been around for hundreds of years.

    Or since the idea of an absolute truth is impossible, perhaps you should take into account the idea that ALL knowledge, opinion, appearances, and ideas are relative. To what? Well, that’s what makes it relative.

    This is the problem with your lobbying for Islam on here. You speak as though there is an external constant within which everything is the same. Perhaps this is what you interpret as “God,” the absolute judgment without relativity. This would be very similar to the god described by Aristotle, the “unmoving mover,” or one who can deal solely with absolutes and allows a pivot to which humans can compare themselves.

    But this is where the problem comes in, for it to be an absolute fact, where relativity does not matter, then the whole of human population would have to be in agreement. Otherwise, by definition, it can’t be absolute. It’s merely relative.

    A common counter might be that “oh, well some people simply haven’t seen the correct path.” Very well, but what about the people who HAVE researched it, and sought for the absolute correct path? What about a devout Zoroastrian leader? Certainly he or she has taken great pains to search for the absolute. But, according to your logic, they are wrong, and have reached the wrong absolute.

    If you counter with this, then you have proved my point. The issue of relativity. EVERYTHING is relative, and the idea of a single absolute is ludicrous. In fact, you know where Islam gained its roots from, right? Mostly from smaller cults who were in opposition to Plato, who, guess what, STRONGLY believed in absolutes. He called them Forms, and it was Christianity and later, similar religions that took offense to this.

    So, the problem with your lobbying, to reiterate, is that you take your knowledge as absolute. But, if you’ve followed my reasoning thus far, you’d recognize that it couldn’t possibly be. Relativity, my friend, is where your arguments fall down. Do they work relative to you? Absolutely. They are wonderful arguments. But to hold the same standard to ALL of us diverse commenters here at SLAM, is unrealistic, and a symptom of an over-idealized, under-appreciated world view.

  • Caboose

    Just to be fair, I have addressed his Islamic content. I think it has no place on this site, and you’re right, I’ve never upvoted it.

    And brilliant on the rest of it. It may seem like speculation, but we have a whole gamut of information to build off of.

  • Caboose

    Well done.

  • Ugh

    So you are from a middle class background?

  • Ugh

    Thanks. Picking apart flaws in arguments and logic is actually what I do for a living. ADD-Velo is actually harder than most freshman students because he genuinely doesn’t understand what a sequitur argument is, and his arguments actually get their structure and form from the holes themselves. Problematising him is like trying to remove the holes from a flyscreen – all you have left afterwards is formless and useless piles of wire.

  • sim888

    Tell me more about these ‘minor signs’ to this ‘Day of Judgement’*

    *rhetorical question.

  • Ugh

    Careful with that asterisk. Irony is likely to encourage!

  • sim888
  • sim888

    This is true – i had a feeling that the missing question mark might not have been enough though :)
    (And kudos on the post/s below, great read)

  • AndyK415

    That was amazing. If you don’t mind, what do you do for a living?

  • Marius Wönnmann
  • pposse

    thats all fine and dandy but Ugh below hit the nail on the head what my issue was with your original post and just to emphasize again it has nothing to do with your response or Islam.

    To be clear, if its up to me you can post whatever you like so long as its not spam. If i click on a video you post i’ll click on a video you post on my own free will at my own time. In any case I won’t engage in commentary on those videos over here. I do have other interests and comment here and there on different sites, you can see this by clicking on my disqus account.

    Sometimes i know things get off topic on here and i’ll chime in or read the content, learn from it like just now i had to google ‘pascal wager’ cause i had no idea what that meant but i don’t come on these sites seeking that info for the most part. However for example if an article about Dennis Rodman in North Korea is up i’ll go to it knowing that some crazy debate about politics will most likely ensue and i’ll read the content i won’t deny that.

  • Isaaq Attack

    Hey I’m Muslim and my name is Mohamed Isaaq. You have to stop shoving Islam down people’s throats like this on slam’s website. I and many others come to read up on ball info and your consistent religious banter isn’t helping or bringing people closer or even appreciating Islam. Action speaks louder than words, that’s how the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) conducted his business. You’re pushing people away from Islam by telling them about Judgment Day and etc. In fact you’re the problem here and how would God feel about this right? So get off your high horse and stop thinking we Muslims are the best and start thinking we’re equals to all these gentlemen and ladies here. I’ve said my piece.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    As Salamu Alaykum Ikwa,

    “So get off your high horse and stop thinking we Muslims are the best and start thinking we’re equals to all these gentlemen and ladies here”

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    “What counts as lewd or over-pornified? Relative to the Qur’an, me dressing in a sportcoat, polo, and jeans is lewd. If that was the case, the sign has been around for hundreds of years.”

    I read only your first three lines to know that you need to take time to study and read about Islam. Look up what AWRAH is. That’s completely not true. I wear polo, jeans, sport coat. I must cover my awrah. 100 years ago in America women and men were covered you can examine the photos. Nudity was hardly shown. Intimacy on tv was never shown. You making a case for a “relativism and that prophecy is only in the eye of the beholder” is a nostradamus approach which doesn’t apply to Holy Qur’an or Hadith. For instance in the Holy Qur’an it explicity states that Jesus Peace Be Upon Him will return as a major sign toward the day of judgement.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    I know you said rhetorical but it’s the most important issue for any human: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RflrdrZ5NR0

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Thank you for your kind response

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ Nick Tha Quick

    THIS! There are lots of commentors and visitors to the comment sections of this site who are equally annoyed by his constant and misplaced pushing of Islam on this site. Couldn’t have summed it better than you did. Islam or any religion for that matter is not the problem here. It’s his need to preach it endlessly and in response to every post and article.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    You realize that your grand lengthy commentary of how I write has nothing to do with the VERACITY OF ISLAM.

    If we spoke face to face, your ability to focus on my inability to write well and convey myself would be useless. This is why I post youtube videos that have been well organized/edited and provide evidence. I provided you previously a list of SIGNS (9 Holy Qur’anic and 1 Hadith) (visual evidences that you can observe).

    I only care to discuss the Veracity of Islam. I may not be able to convey what I think well but it’s more important to focus on the Holy Qur’an’s and Islam’s Truthfulness.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    You realize he isn’t discussing anything about the Truthfulness about Islam. If we all google video chat @ugh commentary would be useless. I admit i cannot write well but if we all google chat face to face it’d be a different interaction. Instead of focusing on my writing and inability to construct an argument (which I never tried to do) I provided visual evidences for him.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    I am not trying to win an argument. I am trying to show VISUAL Tangible reproducible evidence for the Truthfulness of Islam. Face to face we wouldn’t have these issues. Your assuming from my writing I am trying to demonstrate Islam’s truthfulness – You are focusing on me and not the Message of Islam.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    I am curious. the act of preaching bothers you. However, the Religion i am presenting is different than other religions. Instead of focusing on me, please focus on studying religions and nonreligious views to see if there is any religion with 100% truthfulness.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ Nick Tha Quick

    Just to be clear, I think that anyone can post anything they like. I don’t object to that. However, there needs to be a line drawn where your posting/commenting stops being entertaining/useful/knowledgeable/of some benefit to the site and becomes spam – unwanted, unsolicited mass mailing – which is what most of your posting generally is. I know that the comments often go off topic and interesting debates happen because of it. But you also do not see any other individual constantly trying to shove their personal, unrelated views down everyones throats at every opportunity. We all have our personal interests, beliefs, passions, hobbies etc but no one else is constantly trying to preach those interests on every post. Simply because that stuff has no place here unless solicited. Maybe you’ll get it, most likely you wont. Nothing I can do about it.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    You are doing what a 10th rate lawyer does. Changing the topic and confusing the issue.

    Focus on Islam’s Truthfulness instead of trying to focus on my inability to write well. I don’t even use proper grammar when I write on a comment section. I choose to provide visual evidences.

    Don’t you think it’s more important to focus on the TRUTHFULNESS OF A BOOK claiming to be from the Uncreated Creator and what the Absolute purpose of life for the human species.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    You realize I am talking about the Absolute Nature of Reality. The day of judgement. It’s confusing to me why NASA has spent over trillions to explore space and yet their are books claiming to be FROM A NON HUMAN SOURCE and yet how much money has been invested to explore the veracity of the books.

    I mean within a few days Christmas will be celebrated by billions of people. Yet a holiday based on complete falsehood with no textual support is promoted as the truth.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    He’s doing what any 10th rate lawyer does (@Ugh). He doesn’t want to address the topic on Hand: Islam’ Truthfulness.

    instead he focuses on my inability to write well and uses clever methods to group with the rest of all religious preaching individuals.

    Hiding the religious message of the Holy Qur’a by attacking the messenger

  • Caboose

    Your comment illustrates an incredible lack of understanding of the gravity of the illogicality of a universal constant.

    My case for clothing was meant to be an example of relativistic thinking, not an indictment. Because, I am sure you will find those who follow Islam elsewhere in the world who WOULD object to the way we dress in America. See? Relative.

    For you to argue that there EXISTS a universal constant, let alone that YOU have access to it demonstrates both a naive and egocentric view of the universe.

  • Caboose

    He just made an incredible well reasoned argument, and what’s your response? Nothing. Not everybody needs to cower behind their religion or philosophy to make a reasoned point ABOUT said religion. See what Mr. Isaaq did? He USED his religion to prove a point. You “prove” a point about your religion. See how that logical chain of events is illogical? If you really are a medical student (I sincerely doubt), then you understand how logic and science work. To break that chain because you simply switch topics from medicine to religion is both hypocritical and illogical.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    “My case for clothing was meant to be an example of relativistic thinking, not an indictment. Because, I am sure you will find those who follow Islam elsewhere in the world who WOULD object to the way we dress in America. See? Relative” In style or in lawfulness (modesty)

    There is absolutes . You can see that by the compisition of language you use and by your senses

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    He USED his religion to prove a point. You “prove” a point about your religion. See how that logical chain of events is illogical? — I am trying to demonstrate the veracity of an ideology. Mr. Isaaq was trying to discuss an ethical point within the ideologies framework.

    Let’s stick to a simple point. Does the Holy Qur’an provide the absolute nature of reality (because it is the Word of the Uncreated Creator)?

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    For you to argue that there EXISTS a universal constant, let alone that YOU have access to it demonstrates both a naive and egocentric view of the universe.—> If you ever have any friends that go to medical school then ask them who this is (Pathoma’s Dr. Sattar similar to Goljan for step 1 review): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CMw1PO_7bc

    Egocentric and arrogance are UNMERITED.

  • sim888

    I’ll see your boring still image and sleep inducing waffle, and raise you this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_jH47u480

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Difference your video is fiction the information I presented to you is knowledge of the unseen by will occur in future generations.

  • sim888

    And here i was thinking it was a multi-million dollar joint NASA/Harry Stamper Oil Drilling documentary….In reality, your video is as fictional as Michael Bays epic masterpiece.
    In closing, according to NASA’s chief Technologist, Mason Peck, blowing up an asteroid is an actual option (perhaps futile?) thus making Armageddon more believable than your purported work of ‘non-fictional knowledge’.

  • http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com/ Off The Backboard

    Dude – no one gives a sh*t. Take your religious preaching elsewhere. Screw all this playing nice sh*t – moderators, you need to start doing your job and banning people who start preaching about religion on a basketball forum.

    Take it somewhere else.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    How? This information comes from the Holy Qur’an and Hadith. Let’s go back before you group me with the Bible thumper and religious ignorants. Study the claims and objective evidences presented in the Holy Qur’an. Study the origin of the Holy Qur’an like the Bible or any idea that comes in the human project. This isn’t the Pascal Wager (if because any religion can use that fear tactic)… No whether you choose to believe or not will not influence the absolute narrative of the human project. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOwA0v026wY

  • sim888

    How you ask? You answer your own question: This information comes from the Holy Qur’an and Hadith.
    There’s no point going back or forward after that, because you are in fact ‘a bible thumper’, this is irrefutable. You just happen to thump a different ‘book’.

    The only positive gained from that video, was seeing the name Abdur Raheem, reminded me of Shareef Abdur-Rahim.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjOCZX8nXDE

    It’s been fun, but let’s agree to disagree, because it’s starting to feel like wrestling a pig, and i don’t enjoy the getting dirty part.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    your mannerisms are admirable in how you concluded the conversation. I hope one day you’ll study both the old testament, new testament, and Holy Qur’an.

    BTW i was never fond of shareef’s game but I remember a piece slam did about a day in life of abdur-rahim and it was a classic read.

  • Isaaq Attack

    Brother, I have to ask you, is your point to bring people closer to Islam or to move them farther away? Actions are much louder than words. You must look at the feedback you’re receiving and compare it to the one you imagined of receiving. If it doesn’t coincide then you must change your approach. Your intention isn’t wrong, but it’s misplaced and carried out incorrectly.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    “Actions are much louder than words.” With the invention of secular humanism people like Bill Gates have destroyed the notion that religion is needed to be “good”. However, even the definition of good is being obscured. People have become desensitized to Interest banking and don’t realize how oppressing and evil this system is. Most all people of religion do “good” like volunteer at a foodbank or give charity. But Religions’ function isn’t solely to provide moral principles or an opiod to deal with lifes hardships, No each religion’s foundational text is meant to provide an absolute nature of reality. My purpose is to make people realize that each religion is a separate entity. yes even though christianity contains a lot of falsehood it doesn’t mean Islam does. However, people are too engaged in entertainment to realize they need to think. I mean simple-if A Book claims to be the Word of the Uncreated Creator isn’t it important to know if it’s true. Most ppl in the west think religion is blind faith which is WAY WAY OPPOSITE TO ISLAM.

    When every human being dies the ideology they lead their lives with will determine their position in the life hereafter. All human beings are created in a biologically equal manner, but that doesn’t mean that all humans after death will be equal. May Allah SWT guide all free willed species on the absolute true purpose of this reality. Even if Michael Jordan is the greatest ball player of all time, he like you and me will be resurrected and taken to account according to what the two angels record. May Allah SWT protect us.

    Study your religion like your scholars. I enjoy these two individuals: Sheikh Yasir Qadhi and Mufti Ismail Menk. inshAllah I hope this benefits you.

  • Isaaq Attack

    How long have you been Muslim, 2 or 3 years? I’ve been Muslim my entire life and I know we shouldn’t conduct ourselves like this. People feel threatened and irritated when someone shoves anything they know little of into their face. You can’t come on to a basketball website and expect positive feedback. There are many multi-faith discussion boards for that online. It’s like speaking about chemistry within a math class. No one wants to hear that. Would you?

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    ikwa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1DGrzdrQc

    the urgency to assist our brothers and ssters

  • initbruv

    At least you tried. He’ll figure it out, he’s probably only 18 or so.

  • Ugh

    I teach philosophy at a university.

  • Ugh

    No, it doesn’t You remember earlier on I said the problem is your argument isn’t very good? You asked why, I replied. You still seem to be struggling.

    I’ll make this as plain as I can:

    P1) Argument is the best communicable demonstration of knowledge without direct observation of behaviour.

    P1a) Your arguments are lousy (as demonstrated).

    P2) Good arguments and self-driven discovery are more valuable than bad argument and dogmatism.

    P2a) I’ve read the Qur’an myself and spoken to Imams with good arguments.

    Conclusion: Talking to you about Islam, listening to your arguments about Islam and watching the videos that bypass your fallacy filter only serves to damage my appreciation of Islam rather than improve it.

    Dissecting your flawed argument methods, though, is actually an exercise that is quite rewarding while I’m backing up my hard drive or downloading NBA videos. As I said to Caboose, your arguments are so bad even finding the thread of what you’re talking about is quite a challenge.

  • Ugh

    “You must look at the feedback you’re receiving and compare it to the one you imagined of receiving. If it doesn’t coincide then you must change your approach.”
    This is certainly the wisest thing I’ve read on Slamonline. Ever.

  • Ugh

    The two pending are:
    * Probably from a middle class family. (As I said, I’ve taken your schooling history as a yes.)
    * Diagnosed with some behavioural issue in your teens, probably nothing violent.

  • Ugh

    The topic of OUR discussion has never been the truthfulness of the Qur’an. That’s the topic of your incoherent ranting, not our discussion. The topic of our discussion is the cause of your incoherent ranting!

  • Isaaq Attack

    Thanks man.

  • Isaaq Attack

    You’re probably right. Thanks.

  • Ugh

    *sigh*
    You can’t tell the difference between argument and evidence.
    Argument is the presentation of theory.
    Evidence of proof of an assertion. Assertions are made in an argument or theory.

    You posting a video proves only that you’ve posted a video. It does not:
    a) prove you watched the video
    b) prove understood the video
    c) prove the video was truthful in any way, shape or form, other than being a video on youtube (i.e. it could be a hoax)
    d) prove the content of the video was truthful or not truthful (no matter the intention it is truthful anyway)

    Ergo, posting a video is not evidence, it is argument. You present argument, not evidence. The videos are just other people’s arguments.

    If you want to provide evidence of the truth of the Qur’an I’m probably
    going to have to die. There aren’t going to be any more prophets, so I’m
    not likely to be picked for a Night Journey any time soon.

    But I have seen the Dome of the Rock. I’ve seen a cast of the Prophet’s footstep pressed into the rock outside Mecca on his first journey to Jerusalem. I’ve touched a piece of the Kiswa. I’ve sat in prayer at the mosque of the Caliph. If any of these things haven’t convinced me as evidences, what are you going to do? Post another video about hermeneutics?

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    the arguments i have provided for islam were observable objective evidence.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    no and no

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    please look at my discussion with nbk on the latest POST up you’ll understand my motivation” there;s a video titled “Religions are meant to unite us” it’s 10 minutes if you have time please watch it

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    You posting a video proves only that you’ve posted a video. It does not:
    a) prove you watched the video
    b) prove understood the video
    c) prove the video was truthful in any way, shape or form, other than being a video on youtube (i.e. it could be a hoax)
    d) prove the content of the video was truthful or not truthful (no matter the intention it is truthful anyway)

    I watched the video series. I examined the evidence from different disciplines. I previously gave you 10 observable evidences. to prove the Holy Qur’an’s veractiy as well as to support the Prophecy Component of the Prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him’s Veracity.

  • TrollAlert

    Please stop engaging with this clearly delusional religious troll.

  • Ugh

    You keep telling yourself that. Preferably to yourself.

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