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Tuesday, December 3rd, 2013 at 1:50 pm  |  58 responses

LeBron James Says Dwyane Wade ‘Getting That Kobe Deal’


by Marcel Mutoni @ marcel_mutoni

The Miami Heat have some difficult decisions to make in the coming months.

With Dwyane Wade having the option to become a free agent next summer, there’s no telling what kind of money (or how many years) both sides will agree to.

According to LeBron James, Wade should get a contract similar to what Kobe Bryant got from the Los Angeles Lakers ($48.5 million over two seasons).

Per ESPN:

“D-Wade is getting that Kobe deal,” James said from the next locker. Wade, knowing the gravity of this issue, smiled and shook his head. Then he gave a more diplomatic answer. “When I get into that position, it’s something I’ll think about,’ Wade said. ‘You have to sit down at the time and see what is best for you and for your team.”

Here is the situation. Next summer Wade has an opt out in his contract. He is owed $20 million next year and $21 million in 2015-16. It is reasonable to think that Wade, who turns 32 in January, will not opt out and just collect that money. But Wade could also re-do his contract and, if the Heat agreed, get a four-year deal worth up to nearly $100 million. Or the sides could do a deal for anything in between. Basically, the Heat could ask Wade to take a pay cut and make it up to him by adding years to his deal. That is what Wade and the Heat will likely have serious discussions about at some point before he has to make a decision on June 30. What Wade decides could have a significant impact on how the Heat proceed into next season. And Bryant’s new deal sets an interesting precedent. Bryant is taking a pay cut next season from his $30 million salary but he will still be the league’s highest-paid player through 2016. The contract was somewhat controversial because it restricted the Lakers’ cap flexibility even as they plan to rebuild through free agency. [...] “As a player, I loved it. Everyone who gets what they get deserves it, great,” Wade said of Bryant’s new deal. “There’s a reason the Lakers felt that Kobe should get that money. There’s no right or wrong.”

Interesting times ahead for the defending NBA champs and their long-time superstar.

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  • JML-G

    actually Lebron saying that makes me think Wade gon take huge paycut to get another star to Miami

  • Smits#45

    No matter what happens I´m sure he doesn´t have to collect food stamps just yet.

  • berkamore

    Like I said before on another thread, Kobe just raised the asking price of every superstar free agent in the League. Anybody who thinks they are better than Bryant is gonna ask for more money.

    I mean, if Wade is getting 25 mil. per year (as the article suggests), is Carmelo gonna take less, is LBJ gonna take less?

    That’s why I laughed when Bryant was saying that the Lakers can attract a prime free agent with whatever is left of the Cap. Does he really believe they are gonna settle for less than what he is making? (or maybe the Lakers told him they were gonna pay the tax and it’s another discussion altogether)

    On the real, some NBA front offices will be screaming:”F..k the Lakers and Kobe” when they will be trying to lure free agents this summer because that Bryant deal made their negotiations more difficult and more expensive.

  • spit hot fiyah

    tell that to spreewell

  • @iamMrjump

    I would like to see Flash retire in Miami..

  • robb

    ‘Anybody who thinks they are better than Bryant’ I hope they don’t take those ESPN rankings as reference or the league is in trouble

  • Castrovi

    Lol sooooo true

  • bike

    What LeBron is really saying is that he wants the Kobe Deal.

  • TBRK

    what Lebron is really saying is basketball money is for chumps

  • pposse

    What if Oden actually comes back and plays injury free from now on and lebron and his big head foresees this future? his business savvy self will then realize that there is zero point to keep Bosh. Lebron is now excited and realizes that both him and Wade can get Kobe deals and win it all with Oden for 2 milly a year than with young Bosh.

    And then Bosh will align himself with another contender and become the real Lebron stopper.

  • retrobat

    Uh, yeah. Maybe on Earth 2.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    ……. if these “superstar” players don’t understand that Kobe just signed a contract based on the business/loyalty aspect of his being Kobe Bryant, then they aren’t worth whatever they are asking for anyway.
    .
    Kobe generates way way way more than $25 million for the Lakers in any given season, and he has generated something like $1.2 billion in his career. His contract reflects THAT. it doesn’t reflect basketball skill.
    .
    any player trying to get a contract based on skill, relative to Kobe’s salary, is a f*cking idiot. and will be told as much, not only by whoever they demand that from, but their own agent.

    plain and simple.

  • butternuts

    bingo was his name o

  • berkamore

    Please let me know how you get that $1.2 billion figure, I am really curious.

    As for the rest, we’ll talk again in the summer. I might be proven wrong but I seriously doubt it.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    it was a rough estimate, i don’t exactly remember where i saw it.
    .
    but let’s just break it down, as of the end of this deal, he will have earned a little over $280million for the Lakers. Add that to the $49.8 he signed for and you have career earnings of $329million. We can pretty safely assume he’s earned the team far more than he’s been paid, considering their net worth has eclipsed the $2 billion mark.
    .
    In money earned (not value added), we can assume he’s earned somewhere around a billion for the franchise. Not that he really directly earned them that much, but he played a (the most) significant role.

  • berkamore

    Valuations can whatever we want them to be but Forbes thinks that the Lakers are worth $1 billion with revenue of $197 million and operating income of $47.8 million

    Here’s the link:

    http://www.forbes.com/teams/los-angeles-lakers/

  • Conor

    Jerry Buss informed Bryant that he was worth $75m to the franchise, every season.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    $75 million times 17 is $1.3 billion

  • berkamore

    Interesting because Bryant is making $30 million this season and the Lakers’ operating income is 47.8 million.

    So if he was to make $75 million, the Lakers would make almost no money. ( and I am not even counting payroll taxes). But hey, I never argue with billionaires.

  • berkamore

    So his market value was already $75 million a year when he was a bench player in his first few years.

    Because if you are talking about an average value, then he was/is worth, some years, more than the $75 million a year figure Dr. Buss gave him.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the Lakers are taking in about $150 million this season off just their local TV deal…..

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i am not the one who came up with 1.2 billion, i’m just relaying a figure. regardless, it represents that Kobe earns the team more than he makes (you want to argue that point?) and that, in itself, is why it is stupid for any player to assume he’s worth more than Kobe. That fair?

  • berkamore

    That doesn’t mean anything. It’s revenue. What matters is profit. (Actually cash generated but I don’t wanna get technical)

  • berkamore

    You haven’t proven anything to me but hey, if you want me to believe what you are telling me, fine. I believe you.

  • robb

    I have a question: That 47.8 million operating income is not their total income is it? It’s just the profit they make after taking out the operating expenses. Or how does that work?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Lol, view this however you want man. The implications of why Kobe got a deal that nobody else will should be common sense anyway.

  • berkamore

    Operating income is what’s left after they take out the operating expenses but before they take interest expenses (if any) and taxes.

    So out of the $ 47 mil, they still have to pay at least two more expenses. So they have far less than $47 mil after they are done paying everybody.

  • berkamore

    Hey Bro, if you’ve been reading what I said from the day that deal was announced, my view has been that the Lakers decided to pay Bryant and that’s all there is to it.

    Now, I wouldn’t have made that deal because the numbers don’t make sense to ME. Now, it makes sense to THEM, so hey more power to them. (not my money LOL)

  • nbk=simpleton

    Wow, nbk is a fucking simpleton,

  • dumbshit

    ….um, wow. just wow. fucking moron

  • CHIEFKEEF

    At the end of the day, ma n**** Kobe generates more dollars for the Lakers even when he on the bench. These fake ass wannabe superstars gotta take note.

  • berkamore

    I give you that. He’s a cash register (not on MJ level but still ) for the Lakers. I mean, you gotta pay 5Gs to sit courtside and watch Nick Young play? HELL NO.

  • shockexchange

    The question remains, “How much will they be worth when the economy contracts?” The Lakers are betting that current revenues from ticket sales and television contracts will last in perpetuity, but in the Shock Exchange’s opinion, they won’t.

  • berkamore

    Don’t worry for the owners. At this point, it’s not how profitable an NBA team is, it’ s just supply and demand. There’s a lot of loaded people who are dying to get their hands on an NBA franchise.

    Just to give you an idea. There are about 442 billionaires in the US alone for 30 NBA franchises. What does it tell me? Well, hose valuations are not coming down anytime soon.

    I can understand why. You are on TV every day and it’s a sexy business. I guess that beats just being a rich guy nobody ever heard of. LOL.

  • shockexchange

    You just made a case for Black Ric Flair getting “Horry Jr money.” Is that your argument?

  • berkamore

    Well, the Arison family (who owns the Heat) has a lot more money than the Buss family (who owns the Lakers ) so Black Rick Flair is certainly aware of that.

    Especially when he sees those big a.. boats that Carnival Cruise (Arison owns it) has sitting in Miami. Should be an interesting summer. LOL.

    Wikepedia link to Carnival Cruise. Arison is LOADED. LOL.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_Cruise_Lines

  • shockexchange

    You didn’t answer SE’s question. It sounds like you’re counting someone else’s (Arison Family) money instead.

  • berkamore

    What is the question again?

  • ballislife

    The hate is strong with this one.

  • Ugh

    This is entirely empty chatter. Wade isn’t worth that deal, not on the court, not on the TV. Nobody is going to pay him that and there’s no reason he’d take it. He has a probable dynasty in Miami using the ‘big three’ salary formula, breaking that up for franchise crippling money is an error Wade is smart to make.

  • Najee Fareed

    also kobe technically took a paycut

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Listen to me

    This world is like a venus fly trap. Wake up! You only Die once.

    Basketball is ENTERTAINMENT. I don’t discount its fun value. But wake up the absolute nature of reality is right here right here on planet Earth. Please watch the video.

    I saw a disgusting interaction between two commenters on Slam. Crude language vicious attacks and I realized most PEOPLE use sports as means to build their confidence (playing and conversing). However, there is no consequence of who has the most correct position. Debate religion Debate religion verse none religion. Break out of this entertainment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdhk2y6zFg4

  • speedy

    Don’t really get what your religion has to do with sports or basketball in specific. I don’t want to talk about religion when I go to a site, that talks basketball.

    Way to much war and death in the past and today because of religions and the people, that take them way to serious.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    ww2 was greatest war conducted with wmd (hiroshima),,, it was a secular ideological based war.

    speedy reflect on your temporary existence. i dont want a conversation. wake up! please watch the video! thanks

  • JoeMaMa
  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Please ad hominem attack isn’t going to eliminate the veracity of the message. Cliche atheist and orientalist are useless. Please spare some time to study and read. Know your religion and cultural norms veracity. Whether you choose to believe or not will not affect the absolute narrative of the human project. Only worship the Uncreated.

    Study any religion as well the scholars. Each one that comments on slam can name the entire starting or roster for each NBA team. Averages, percentages..But these are useless.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Please no ad hominems or cliche atheist & orientalist rhetoric. That logic could easily be applied to the religion called Basketball.

  • speedy

    reflect on your temporary existence !

    wake up !
    Please watch the video !
    Are you some religious peddler ?
    I don’t need a religion to self reflect.
    I respect everybody who does.

  • speedy

    So you got your religion and want us to respect and asimilate now or what?
    What is the purpose of your religious post on a basketball related site?You didn’t answer this the first time I asked.

  • Anthony

    Players will never get as much as owners, but also owners will never have the fame, accolades, reverence or recognition that the players get. Its a business of Entertainment that has piggy backed off of the “religion” of this particular sport. I’ve “worshiped” at the hardwood, tile, and asphalt “altar” just as much as anyone that loves the sport of basketball. Dwade is a business man, (insert Jay-Z line here) and in that he may love the sport, but he’ll go elsewhere to collect a check and make relevant his “brand” if need be.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    No I am not a religious peddler. Religions’ respective foundational texts makes claim about knowing the absolute nature of reality – the origin and end and post existence of the human being.

    Speedy when you say comments I don’t need religion – then essentially you are saying my purpose is governed by societies man made purpose. You can take this statement to any civilization.

    I am not a religious peddler. I ASK YOU WATCH THE VIDEO PLEASE. MY purpose of posting this video is to let every human being know there absolute purpose here which is to worship the Uncreated Creator. Also, it is to assist those human beings who are engrossed in the beauties of this life and fail to the see the bigger picture. However don’t take my word, study yourself.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i did not see this, yeah that’s my bad, i didn’t mean to hit the 2.
    .
    team evaluations are up significantly from where they were the last time Forbes did this (the Warriors were sold in 2010 for $450 million, they were valued by Forbes as worth $555 million in your linked set of evaluations). the value of teams is only growing, and Kobe, per all available financial information, earns the Lakers more than he costs. And that’s all I really was trying to relay. His contract is not related to basketball skill/output

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/11/nba-kobe-bryant-lakers-money-contract-extension/
    .

  • speedy

    Do you really think that watching your video, what I did ( I want seven minutes of my life back) will convince me of your religion and your god? It doesn’t.
    Respect that and stop telling me what I am saying with my phrases. That’s the problem with some religious dudes, they think their truth is the one and only, but everybody sees the world differently and you should get this into your head.

    (Speedy when you say comments I don’t need religion – then essentially
    you are saying my purpose is governed by societies man made purpose. You
    can take this statement to any civilization.) smh

  • Dagger

    I enjoyed your retirement.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Exactly my point. Each religious person claims to be on the truth. That’s impossible either 1 is true or none is true (atheism).

    I’ve given you the info whether you choose to be believe or not will not influence the absolute narrative

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Each religious person claims to be on the truth. That’s impossible either 1 is true or none is true (atheism).

    I’ve given you the info whether you choose to be believe or not will not influence the absolute narrative

  • Hisaki Araya

    Food stamps make them help.

  • DJ_BobbyPeru

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