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Post Up: LMA-Okay

LaMarcus Aldridge and the Blazers stay hot, Eastern Conf. goes 3-0 vs West.

by Brett Weisband | @weisband

Cavaliers (6-12) 98, Nuggets (11-7) 88

So much for Western Conference dominance. The Nuggets rode into Cleveland on a seven-game winning streak, starting to look like a team that climbed to a three seed in last season’s playoffs. The Cavaliers, on the other hand, came in ranked 28th in the league in points per 100 possessions and 26th in points allowed. They didn’t look like it on Wednesday, though, rolling to an easy W over Denver. Tristan Thompson put up a career night with 17 points and 21 boards – nine of them offensive – as the Cavs used their interior advantage for the win.

Even though the two teams were basically even in shots attempted, field goal percentage and turnovers, the Cavs earned 11 more trips to the free throw line. Anderson Varejão also had himself a double-double with 18 and 13 to go along with five combined blocks and steals. Ty Lawson, who has been as reliable as it gets for the Nuggets this year, scoring double figures in every game coming in, put up just four points and went 1-13 from the field, although he did tally 11 assists. Kyrie Irving put up 23 points for the Cavs on 9-20 shooting, but was scoreless in the fourth quarter.

Hawks (10-10) 107, Clippers (12-7) 97

Another East-West matchup dominated by the Eastern team? Huh? The Hawks, who came in at 9-10, yet still sat third in the East standings, took advantage of the Clippers interior defense all night to grab the win. Al Horford and Paul Millsap ate up the Blake Griffin-DeAndre Jordan frontline, going for 21 and 25 points respectively and each grabbing nine rebounds.

millsap

(H/T @SBNationNBA)

The Clippers, playing their first game of a seven-stop trip east, trailed for nearly the entire game. The Hawks took the lead for good with 7:35 to go in the first, stretching it as high as 16. Blake put up 24 and 7 for the Clippers, while Chris Paul racked up 19 and 11 assists in the loss. Kyle Korver consistently drained open threes for ATL, knocking down 6-9 en route to 23 points. Korver tied Dana Barros for the longest streak of consecutive games with a made three at 89, with a chance to set the record when the Hawks play Cleveland on Friday.

Suns (10-9) 97, Rockets (13-7) 88

The surprising Suns took advantage of a rare off night from Houston, the most efficient offensive team in the league, to get a road win. The point guard tandem of Eric Bledsoe and Goran Dragic took control for Phoenix, scoring 20 and 19 points, respectively, to lead the Suns.

James Harden had an ugly line in his worst game of the season. The Beard shot 3-17 from the field and 0-8 from long range. He still managed 14 points thanks to a perfect 8-8 night from the line. The Rockets were short-handed, with four regulars missing this game due to injury.

Houston got it within a point midway through the fourth quarter, but the Suns answered with a 13-0 run to all but end it. Dwight Howard putting up a 15 and 18, while Aaron Brooks netted 17 off the bench for H-Town. PJ Tucker was big for the Suns, posting a line of 18-6-4.

Pistons (9-10) 105, Bucks (3-15) 98

With Anthony Davis on the shelf, Andre Drummond is taking up the mantle of “second year big man making a gigantic leap.” Drummond put up his fifth straight double-double (and third straight with 18 or more boards), going for 24 and 19, tacking on three blocks and two steals as well. Detroit pulled away with a 14-0 run in the third quarter, with Greg Monroe (18 points, 17 rebounds) scoring eight of those points.

In his return to Milwaukee, Brandon Jennings made just 4-16 shots, managing 17 points thanks to two made triples and 7-8 shooting from the free throw line. Josh Smith (17 points, three blocks) continued his quest to frustrate everyone who has ever watched basketball, shooting 6-19 from the floor. He was 1-8 on shots outside of the paint, including 1-6 from long range. An update on his shot chart:

smith_chart

(Via NBA Stats)

For the Bucks, Ersan Ilyasova notched 22 and 10 off the bench. Giannis Antetokounmpo tied his season high by playing 28 minutes, and the Greek Freak put up a tantalizing line of six points, six rebounds, four assists and three blocks. When you’re 3-15, you’ve gotta have something to get excited about, right?

Mavericks (12-8) 100, Pelicans (9-9) 97

New Orleans couldn’t keep its post-Anthony Davis run going, falling short in the final minutes against the Mavericks. Eric Gordon (15 points, 6-14 shooting) had a runner blocked by Dirk Nowitzki with under 10 seconds to go, and Ryan Anderson (18 points, 1-5 from three, 13 boards), coming off back-to-back 30-point efforts, showed he’s not superhuman, missing a game-tying triple with time running out. Dirk led the way for Dallas, scoring 21 points (7-17 shooting), grabbing seven boards and rejecting four shots.

The teams traded runs early in the second half, with the Mavs answering an 8-0 run by the Pellies with a 10-2 tear of their own. Dirk closed things out for Dallas, scoring their final five points.

Al-Farouq Aminu had his best game of the season, scoring 16 while grabbing a career-best 21 boards. Jrue Holiday set a season high in points with 26 while dishing out nine assists. Dallas had six players score in double figures, with Vince Carter popping in 15 off the bench and Monta Ellis putting up a well-rounded 14-6-10 line.

Pacers (17-2) 95, Jazz (4-16) 86

With three upsets already in the books, this one would have been too much. The Jazz got out to an early lead, but the Pacers chipped away at it and pulled away at the end. Paul George scored 19 for Indy, including nine in the fourth quarter to help the Pacers seal it. After allowing 100 points in back-to-back games, the Pacers’ league-best defense got back on their grind and held the Jazz to 41 percent shooting and just 38 points in the second half.

Derrick Favors flashed his talent with 22 and 13, finishing as the only Utah player with a positive plus/minus rating. Trey Burke continued the strong start to his career with 13 points and nine assists.

Indy’s starters all scored in double figures; Roy Hibbert put up 13 and nine, while David West netted 10 and dished out eight assists.

Spurs-Timberwolves: Postponed

A very weird situation played out in Mexico City, as the arena the Spurs and Wolves were set to square off in experienced some smoky conditions after what was called a generator malfunction. The arena was evacuated about 45 minutes before the scheduled tip off. The game will be played at a later date in Minneapolis.

smoke

(H/T @cjzero)

Trail Blazers (16-3) 111, Thunder (13-4) 104

Yes, it’s still pretty early in the season, but the Trail Blazers are proving they’re for real. If they keep knocking off upper-echelon teams, they won’t have to do much more to convince folks. Rip City was out in full force as the Blazers rallied back from an 11-point halftime hole to top the Thunder in Portland. LaMarcus Aldridge was out of his mind, going for 38 points (16 in the fourth), 13 rebounds and five assists and outdueling Kevin Durant (33 points, seven boards) to lead the Blazers to the win.

The Blazers took every punch the Thunder threw down the stretch, answering just about every Thunder make with points of their own to hold onto the lead. On the game’s most pivotal possession, with Portland clinging to a 105-104 lead and less than a minute left on the clock, Kendrick Perkins (what was he even doing on the floor?) was called for an illegal screen as he tried to free Russell Westbrook (21 points, 7-17 shooting). Nicolas Batum (14 points, 6-10 from the field) drained a trey down at the other end, as Durant fell asleep guarding him, to give the Blazers a big enough cushion to coast to victory.

While Portland’s defense is going to be the question going forward – they were okay in this one, holding OKC to 43.8 shooting from the floor, but only forcing the turnover-happy Thunder into 13 giveaways – Terry Stotts’ offense is really humming. All five starters scored 10 or more, and his “Flow” offense is generating all kind of good looks. While the Blazers hit just 8-23 from long range, several of their misses were of the wide-open variety. Aldridge (17-28 from the field) gave everyone who tried to guard him fits, hitting a Nowitzkian array of mid-range jumpers and fadeaways, and even doing more damage than usual inside. Aldridge’s 17 made field goals are tied for most in the League in a game this season. It’s gotten to the point where it’s shocking when this dude misses a jumper.

OKC can be encouraged by the play of their young’ns in this one. Jeremy Lamb was on the floor for long stretches of the fourth quarter, scoring 10 points overall, while Reggie Jackson (12 points) continues to make a mini-leap.


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  • Fan of the game

    Blazers are just fun to watch right now. I hope Aldridge continues his MVP play for the rest of the season. Been a fan of his since Slam did an article on him in college. And how good is Trey? Haven’t seen him play yet. What does he do well (and not so well)? Also, Giannis gotta get heavy minutes on that Bucks team.

  • brolic

    Still can’t believe the bulls traded Aldridge away for Tyrus Thomas…..

  • Stepfan Raiford

    Andre Drummond…..HAS MADE THE LEAP!!!!!!!!!!!

  • brolic

    I believe that Portland was the perfect environment for Aldridge to evolve his game. Scott Skiles was notoriously hard on younger players and would’ve probably stunted his development.

  • LLC#12

    I feel bad for those fans in Mexico City, how disappointing that must have been. Hope they all got full refunds.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Lamarcus Aldridge outchea being the best 4 in the league on the reg. Damn that guy is so good when he’s happy.

  • Fan of the game

    Can’t say how much ability this guy has, love his game. If I were to nitpick this 20 year olds game, right now it would be his passing and free throws. Again, a 20 year old big, very good at D, and has the intangibles you can’t teach.

  • Max

    Caspi is showing he’s a worthy role player in this league, he’s perfect in the Rockets’ system.
    Never tought that would actually happen.

  • guest

    They wouldn’t have had any trouble with the generators if all of their trabajadores fuerte hadn’t come to America.

  • Lambert

    For sure. Remember at one point in the off season there were all these rumors about him not being happy and potentially wanting a trade? I was anticipating a Blazers team that was either meh…or pretty bad, albeit with Aldridge putting up solid numbers. Turns out dude is running with one of the hottest squads in the league.

  • shockexchange

    Lamacus Aldridge was blowing his own horn earlier in his career, but he wasn’t ready. In the Shock Exchange’s opinion, it’s great to see a player who turns the corner and finally “gets it.” Aldridge can do it all and he’s doing it for a winning team. He can now let his play speak for him.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he was very unhappy. but i guess he and Robin Lopez have become really really close friends, he loves playing along side him. and when Stotts system started to show signs of being successful, he totally bought in.
    .
    he was pretty close to this good 2 years ago as well, when they gave Dallas a run for their money in the 1st round, the year they won the title.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he did this in 2011

  • Saleem Rainman

    guess they aint goin to mexico for any games no more…

  • Caboose

    -Andre Drummond really reminds me of a young Dwight Howard with a little more offense and a little less defense.

    -The Blazers have a legit shot to win the West. They’ve risen to the occasion so many times now.

    -I think we all overhyped the Pacers. Look at their schedule thus far, it’s crazy easy. They’ve got a nice 3 game stretch coming up that should give a good test.

    -I know he didn’t play yesterday, but Ricky Rubio is maddeningly inconsistent. Sometimes he looks like a prime Rondo, other times like a 2nd stringer. And I can’t figure out what changes so much game to game.

    -Kyrie hasn’t been great. I told y’all he wasn’t gonna make that much of a leap.

    -I was COMPLETELY wrong about Dirk. Dude’s been winding back the clock lately

  • Caboose

    They did

  • Max

    I will never forget that one game where Brandon Roy went back to pre injury Roy and got a clutch win for the Blazers.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    There is nobody in the league even close to LeBron James. Here is the best article i’ve ever read illustrating that sentiment, http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10080338/lebron-james-nba-most-highly-evolved-offense

  • i_ball

    The Blazers are ballin out of control lately but I still don’t think they can win the West – it would be really hard to even get home court advantage.

  • Caboose

    Excellent article

  • Caboose

    THAT is when he should have retired.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Wednesday Night thoughts FROM YOUR TRULY SLAM’S MOST WANTED MOST HATED MOST DISLIKED AND MOST IMPORTANTLY MOST TROLLED COMMENTATOR

    1.James Harden going 0-8 shooting 3′s LMFAO

    2. Andre Drummond is a F’N MONSTER

    3. The Portland Trail Blazers came back to beat the Oklahoma City Durant’s last night Lamarcus Aldridge dominated the second half as Portland won despite a cold shooting from both Lillard and Matthews it is clear that Aldridge is the league best power forward by far and their victory should shut up all the doubting retarded monkeys that have called Portland a fluke team and overrated i mean lets be real here people as a team you are whatever your record indicates that is how sports works for all of you BIG DUMMIES ( Fred Sanford Voice) that don’t know any better and right now Portland is the West best team I guess the only thing left for Portland to do to prove themselves as being legit would be to beat the almighty LeBron and his Miami Stooges!!!

    4.It’s always funny to me to see OKC losing and that team INSTANTLY go into “DICKRIDE DURANT” mode

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    You were one of those same people questioning if Portland’s success was a fluke earlier in the season. Another thing, when you do these “thoughts lists” do you ever think maybe you should state some actual analysis instead of just insulting everyone and making ill attempted jokes? I mean you stated you’re the most wanted and hated but people on here would probably take you seriously if you actually came with bball facts on a regular bases instead of uttering retarded statements and slinging insults.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    I thought I was the only one who noticed how easy the Pacer’s schedule was. They have the Spurs and Thunder next so we’ll see how they measure up.

  • Caboose

    And wrote with literacy above that of an 8 year old.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Jokes with political undertones don’t usually go over so well.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    OH NO HERE COME THE TROLL PATROL lol

    anyway understand this boy i realized Portland was legit way sooner then any of you generic cunts ever did alright and by the way I do state facts dummy did James Harden not go 0-8 shooting 3′s or not simple true or false

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    I was going to give that a pass for some reason. This can’t be a grown man it just can’t be. If it is then this is the reason why I am pro abortion because we probably wouldn’t have to deal with guys like him.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Really abortion jokes and boy best believe I am a “grown man” while you on the other hand is what some lame ass wannabe rapper LOL

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Lol whatever you say. As if calling me a cunt is really altering my life. I’m actually glad you did stat that ONE fact for ONCE. Maybe if you did that more often you pathetic waste of fucking life people would like you instead of wishing you’re welfare mother would’ve aborted you.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    LOL nice one actually going back to when I was 16 like 5 years ago nice try though. By the way you spell I would’ve never known you were a “grown man” lol

  • Nathan Shane Long

    so you went through a “WIGGER” phase boy that how i know you a F’N joke white boy

  • spit hot fiyah
  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    HAHA you couldn’t be more wrong but I’ll let you think I’m a joke and I’m white.

  • i_ball

    via wikipedia -

    In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion

    I guess that makes you the troll

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    for whatever it’s worth (to those of you that look at things rationally) Harden was quite obviously hurt last night, hurt and disinterested.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Damien Sandow really

  • Nathan Shane Long

    because you are so deal with it and don’t lie now i had to deal with a “certain troll monkey” the last two days that shall remain nameless that gets “paid” with fake phony MONOPOLY MONEY to waste his pathetic life trolling all day long and has a “deskjob” now boy i’m on to you

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Whatever you say spark plug lol

  • guest

    Lol, no kidding. However, I stand by my sub par joke.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    I thought it was funny for what it’s worth lol

  • guest

    Written* you illiterate ;)

  • LakeShow

    The disinterested part is the most concerning.

  • LakeShow

    You should have left it at: “Another thing, when you do these “thoughts lists” do you ever think”

  • Caboose

    Wrote is correct.
    “If he wrote”
    “If he had written”
    Both are correct statements, but mine was the past tense, not the past perfect.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Yea I really should have but it needed to be said.

  • guest

    *Cough* (tail between legs)

  • LakeShow

    Win the West? Like get out of the West??

    No.

    They are much better than I realized, but no. They can’t beat any of the top 3 teams in a series.

    Agree, on Rubio.

    Still expecting even more out of Dirk, but he has been nice.

  • Caboose

    Haha no no, we’re both right! Depends on how you read it.

  • LakeShow

    Always liked his game.

  • Caboose

    Sorry, win the REGULAR SEASON West.

  • Sérgio

    That was a hell of game. Roy was clutch as f@ck.

  • LakeShow

    Lopez has been very solid for them. I think he still has another level too.

  • LakeShow

    Still disagree lol.

  • Sérgio

    And there was a column on ESPN’ site pointing out Lillard as a potential MVP candidate, instead of LMA. SMH

  • LakeShow

    Remember that one time you thought that Rose Garden wasn’t one of the more difficult places to play?

    That was funny.

    (http://www.slamonline.com/online/media/slam-tv/2013/12/kevin-durant-tells-heckling-blazers-fan-to-shut-up-video/)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i believe that was part of him being hurt. more like, “well i’m not myself, this sucks” it was almost like a pity party.

  • Slick Ric

    No jokes about why Beasley made a trip to Mexico City by Spit Hot Fiya? You’re slipping.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Beasley didn’t make a trip to Mexico City tho

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the Lillard love is so damn irrational. it just takes watching the team to see who their best player is. And Lillard is good too! it’s not like he’s below average, or even average. He’s really good! just not THAT good.

  • Saleem Rainman

    HA

  • Nathan Shane Long

    It ain’t still the exception is that Portland is a great team now dummy

  • Saleem Rainman

    YES on the Dirk front.

    I for one am proud to say i saw it coming from a mile away though. I’m tootin’ my own horn like Kobe.

  • LakeShow

    Even when they are sh*tty they always have one of the best at home win % of the lower seeded teams.

    It’s science. (Burgandy voice)

  • Saleem Rainman

    How many peopel thought Dirk was done? Be honest, show of hands.

  • LakeShow

    I’ve seen him healthy and disinterested far too often…

    His defense shows his disinterest. He’s a decent defender when he puts in effort. He just rarely does.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    well….he’s just a terrible defender lol. he’s ok one on one, on the ball. but off the ball he seems to have a major case of ADHD. i wouldn’t get too caught up on his lack of defensive effort. He’s hardly the only superstar who loses interest on that end ;^)

  • LakeShow

    Not I.

    His game is very ground based.

    He just needs to be healthy.

  • Max

    Didn’t you also call Portland a fluke team like 2 weeks ago and now you can’t stop raving about them.

  • LakeShow

    With KB it is more of an exertion issue.

    He couldn’t exert fully on the defensive end and still run the offense to full capacity.

    Harden on the other hand CAN exert full energy on both ends and decides not to.

    There’s a bakers decade difference between their wear on their bodies. Not really a fair comparison. imo.

    Kobe was a beast defensively in his prime. Harden is entering his prime.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Really even during the mid 2000′s after Rasheed got traded and Zach Randolph was malcontent and the team was a garbage lottery team the Rose Garden was a great home court advantage troll please

  • Nathan Shane Long

    “peopel” really idiot

  • Nathan Shane Long

    I realized they were legit sooner then any of you monkey did so what your point?

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Yep can still remember that crazy 4 point play.

  • George Doré

    haha!

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    why can Harden do that, can Kobe can’t?

  • minstigate

    You must be clairvoyant. I’ve been an ardent Blazer fan for 35 years. I’m still wondering whether they’re for real.

    There are some very good reasons to think so.

    1. Their record. Teams that start like this historically make the Conference Finals on average, go out in the first round about 8% of the time. They have made the Conf. Finals, Finals and won Finals about 80% of times. While Portland came out of nowhere, they’re current record only happens to about 1.3 teams per year. Only two teams have had losing months after starting this hot, and had losing streaks of more then 4 games. That’s significant. So, while many of us look at their record and can’t believe they can continue, remember that it would take a historic level of failure to not make the playoffs, and that the average level of success for the company they are now in is Conf. Finals.

    2. New style. They’ve not only adopted Vogel and Thib’s mid-range please style, they’ve adapted their offense to modern defenses. They are mid-range, outside, inside team and have shown complete competence on offense in every area. Their current averages are not high. When a player who appeared hot has a bad night, they still win. It’s system rather than heated talent.

    3. Poor defense might be a mirage. They started out the year abysmal on D. It wasn’t until about 10 games ago that they had one good defensive game. Given that they switched to a new system (ICE) and added a major new piece, it’s likely that we’ll continue to see improvements (up to maybe a 10 ranking on DRTG). The D they played against GSW, CHI, (both only in halves), IND and OKC was stellar. It may not pass the old school eye test for grinding man to man D lovers (yea, I know how that sounds), but it’s a perfect reliance on the odds. If you god to Vegas, you’ll know how this plays out over the course of a game.

    4. Point Differential. So, this is probably the biggest case against the Blazers. They only have the 3 highest point differential in the West right now. That’s historically the best predictor of success. It’s 5.1. HOU is 5.3. SAN is a whopping 9+. If that holds up, we’d should see a 52ish win season for POR. Here’s the issue; Stotts has gone to his bench a bit to early in blowouts and seen big wins winnowed down. The schedule has been slammed, and my guess is Stotts wanted to keep the starters rested. So, maybe this will go up a bit. Still, great teams slam the door. Or they used to. NBA officiating is really good at getting teams way down back into games. Ever notice that 20 years ago a 10 point lead was pretty big. Today, it’s nothing. And a 20 point lead used to mean turning the TV off. Today, it’s also nothing. That’s not the players. Anyway… maybe POR can increase this, maybe it’ll get small. Right now, it says the Blazers should probably be in 3rd in the west. I guess that means they’re for real. But maybe not as real as they’ve been so far.

    So… points 1 and 2 definitely say good things about the Blazers. Points 3 and 4 sort of take a little away. But, there are some decent reasons to think those numbers are a bit deceptive and that the record is more indicative of the success they’ll have in the long run. Either way things shake out, no one can argue that right now, they’re the hottest team in the NBA. That’s real. But given the numbers, no one should be proclaiming them favorites or longshots. They’re sort of upper middle (as far as predictions go) unless the defensive stats and point diff. stats get a little better.

  • spit hot fiyah
  • LakeShow

    what

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    this is awesome! are you the one who makes these?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    this guy ^ > most of us.

  • LakeShow

    fer reals

  • LakeShow

    **Starts slow clap.

    Enjoying your informed opinion man.

  • LakeShow

    Hahahahahhahahaaa……

    You’re calling someone out on grammar????!!

    LMAO

    That’s like Hitler being upset that Ted Bundy was allowed to kill so many people.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    exert full energy on defense and still run the offense to full capacity? that’s quite the double standard you’ve somehow passed off as acceptable for Kobe to do, but not anyone else.

  • LakeShow

    Yes… It was still better than their contemporaries home record’s.

    You should actually do research and try to inform yourself instead of just shooting a full clip on a half-assed thought.

  • LakeShow

    Wow, you really have no idea how 17 years in the NBA plays a large affect on your limbs ability.

    I take it Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce have no excuse then also…

  • Nathan Shane Long

    First of all did you have to write a F’N book for a reply second of all it is clear the Portland success is not a mirage they have won with Lamarcus becoming the very best power forward in the NBA Damien and Wesley gunning from the outside and little contribution from Williams,Robinson,Wright or that bust Leonard not to mention CJ McCollum the 10th overall pick has not played yet for Portland and yet still Portland has made this overnight transformation into the west best team i am most surprised with what Terry Stotts has done changing his entire coaching style over the offseason

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Way above you monkey cunt

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    what? it’s not an excuse. you are the one who thinks Kobe was better than Harden last year….but Kobe get’s a crutch for the same thing that Harden get’s penalized for? it’s a double standard. years in the league are irrelevant, unless you are trying to rationalize why Kobe is not as good as even you try and defend him to be?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    uhm, > is a greater than sign. not “above”. Please go back to school

  • Nathan Shane Long

    The guy showed more Basketball aptitude and intelligence then you ever had you copy and paste GIF cunt

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    while i do disagree, i did give the guy credit for being “greater” than me…..i mean, reading is pretty fundamental, especially in a comment section.
    .
    See You Next Tuesday.

  • spit hot fiyah

    no, i’m the one that surfs the internet and finds things like these and use them to entertain slam readers.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you are the best at it, so thank you.

  • minstigate

    Well, I guess I didn’t have to. But then again, it’s kind of fun to talk about basketball. I prefer to give an explanation of the way I think about something. That’s not how you go about it. I sort of actually like how annoying you are. There’s a place for all.

    Lamarcus MAY be the best PF in the league right now. It’s just so hard to figure out whether someone is the best at a team game. There are so many different ways to look at this. If you call LBJ or Carmelo PFs, then LMA is not the best. If you take them out, you have to look at so many variables and their weights. Do points matter more than rebounding, and if so, by how much? What role do assists play in determining the value of a big? How’s the record play in? Can you discount points scored if shooting % is down? What’s the team’s record and what % of that team play may be attributed to the individual? I could list 7 thousand more questions and make great cases for why a bunch of different people are the best. For example, Griffin might be considered best because his media deals get him mega-exposure. Players with more exposure generally get favorable treatment and are in larger markets. Those players generally fare much better in the post season and especially in conference finals. It’s not exactly basketball related, but it makes a big difference when it comes to winning at a high level. Part of the reason LBJ is far better than Durant is his personality and ability to get that exposure. Durant gets more foul shots, but you better believe the NBA would prefer to market LBJ more than Durant, and that WILL come into play in game situations. How it plays out is up for question, and whether it matters in the end is equally as questionable. But they’re big advantages that don’t show in stats (it’s easy to call a seemingly innocuous foul on a bench player that stops the momentum of a team about to break away in a decisive playoff game. Nobody will point to it the next day and say the refs determined anything. But the effective is massive and subtle). I’m not railing against the NBA here. It’s just a fact of the modern game. If you don’t have that on your side, you just need to be that much better, like the Spurs have been, or like the 2004 Pistons. The point is that the qualities that make a player better or worse than another are impossible to pin down. So it’s useless to say one is better than another. As fans, we have screwed ourselves into the current game by thinking in terms of players instead of teams. As a result, we have a game today that’s dominated mostly by individuals. That’s changing, but the NBA won’t want it to unless fans start to appreciate the team more than the player. So, basically, I’m saying get off LMA’s junk. Who cares if he’s the best PF in the league. What matters are team Ws or Ls. What helps us predict future success are team stats.

    The transormation is also a bit of a mirage. They won 33 games last year, but were much more competitive than the record indicates. They lost 13 in a row at the end of the season. In just about everyone of those games, they were up by about 5 with under 4 to play in the 4th. They gave up that lead every time. My guess is that they would have won 8 of those, at least, had they not been tanking. But once they were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, they consciously decided to tank. JJ Hickson, despite his decent numbers, clearly didn’t buy Stotts’ approach, which hasn’t changed too much. When 20% of your lineup doesn’t play team ball, you get crushed. So, I don’t think there’s really been that big of a change. They weren’t remade. Rather, they just fixed a few holes and probably gave themselves a 50% boost from their deceptively hidden potential last year.

  • minstigate

    Thanks man. Coming from a miserable Laker and Sonic fan, that’s big praise;)

    But I can’t take too much credit. That first point was posted on Blazersedge by someone that did the research.

  • Slick Ric

    That smoke filled arena begs to differ though

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Understand Lebron James and Carmelo Anthony will always be small forward never power forward okay Portland went on a 13 game losing streak to end last season because they QUIT on the season simple and plain and just for the record the bench was remade they got rid of scrub bust draft picks like JJ Hickson Nolan Smith Luke Babbitt and replaced them with Thomas Robinson Mo Williams Dorell Wright CJ McCollum

  • GG

    Actually from everywhere I have seen Harden shot 0-10 from 3 so technically not a fact

  • Max

    My point is you’re a “doubting retarded monkey” as you like to say because you have called them a fluke team.

  • Max

    Well done sir.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    lol, oh i see where you are going with that.
    (a huge % of the league smokes pot, i’m a little slow in the pot jokes department, since to me it is completely normal. just not normal to get caught so often….since they do know when they typically get drug tested.)

  • GG

    He did not, he went 0-10

  • davidR

    andre is super raw. he literally has no offensive moves, yet scores double digits off hustle. he seems like a hard worker, and he’s being taught how to work the post by sheed. his future is definitely bright

  • davidR

    point blank, who is the better defender? kobe or harden?

    i would ride with kobe because he has the mentality for it. harden has ADHD like you mentioned, and i see him reaching way too much instead of moving his feet

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Kobe is a better defender. Definitely.

  • LakeShow

    “the bench was remade they got rid of scrub bust draft picks like JJ Hickson”

    LOL

    JJ Hickson is much less of a bust than Thomas Robinson.

    Your a comedic genius. I’ll give you that.

    BTW, who is the Heat, and Knicks starting power forward?

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Everyone knows Thomas Robinson got drafted by the wrong team everyone knows that you JACKASS and Andrea Bargnani is the Knicks starting PF and the Heat starting PF is Udonis Haslem/Shane Battier Lebron has been a SF since 2005 and Carmelo has been a SF his whole career so i don’t care if the Knicks go small and play him at the “3″

  • LakeShow

    So lets hear your projection on Thomas Robinson?

    He going to be an all-star like Wes Matthews?

    I’m going to prove you wrong here and you won’t have an explanation. You’ll just call me a troll cunt for proving you wrong like usual.

    Last season Jason Kidd, Raymond Felton, Ronnie Brewer, Carmelo, and Tyson started the first 12 games.

    Who is the PF in that group?

    Another lineup most commonly used by them is Pablo Prigioni, Ray Felton, Iman Shumpert, Melo, Martin.

    Who is the PF in that group?

    “Mike Woodson also said he wasn’t sure how he would use Anthony, who played most of last season at power forward and won the league scoring title with an average of 28.7 points per game.”

    http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2013/08/mike-woodson-unsure-of-the-knicks-starting-lineup/

    Yes Melo does play PF.

    Tonight they are playing him at SF to start the game, but he’ll play pf as soon as Martin steps out.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Carmelo Anthony is a Small Forward period that is what he has been his whole career i don’t care about the Knicks gimmick small ball lineup where he starts at the “4″ last season he has started at Small Forward his natural/primary position more this season like he is starting tonight SF ain’t he cunt or not and when he leaves the Knicks in free agency whatever team he chooses he will play Small Forward for them

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Comparing GENOCIDE to a SERIAL KILLER THAT A REAL BAD ANALOGY JACKASS

  • LakeShow

    Exactly.

    His Grammar = Bundy
    Your grammar = Hitler

    Apt analogy.

  • LakeShow

    So when he plays the 4, no one is playing the 4 is what your saying…

    OxyMORON.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    there is no true PF on the floor

  • Saleem Rainman

    REALLYYYYYYY?

  • spit hot fiyah

    did the beasley joke two days ago. i try to be versatile with my punching bags

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Stop insulting people. Go open your Bible read the last 12 verses of Mark and ask liberty baptist church to help you in getting the snakes

    Plz no more foul language every1 is accountable for their actions. No one died for your sins.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Nathan mark last 12 verses liberty baptist church… No one dies for your sins. You are accountable for all your actions. Day of
    Judgement. Plz no more foul language

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Who are you?

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    a period of time

  • Nathan Shane Long

    don’t be weird

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    read last 12 verses of mark.. what do you see

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Just F’N go away brainwashed bible thumper

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    but i thought you are chrisian

  • Lambert

    You went away from Slam for a while and you came back determined to discuss religion. What happened?

  • Nathan Shane Long

    You a F’N retard you cant even spell the word correctly i’m am a ATHEIST!!!

  • LakeShow

    Oh okay. Cause you deem what is “true” and what is not…

    My god you’re an imbecile.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    you are an atheist. How did you reach that conclusion?

  • Nathan Shane Long

    I’m done talking to you

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Interesting.

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