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Tuesday, December 3rd, 2013 at 9:00 am  |  205 responses

Post Up: The Real Deal

If you didn’t believe in the Blazers already, you do now.

by Leo Sepkowitz | @LSepkowitzSLAM

Incredible slate of hoops last night. Let’s start on the West coast with Rip City’s win at home over the now 16-2 Pacers.

Pacers 102, Blazers 106

Two of the NBA’s best went blow for blow last night in Portland. Indy grabbed an eight-point lead in the third quarter, but the Blazers bounced back with a 12-4 run to tie. Portland went up eight in the fourth with six minutes left, and quickly the Pacers had it back within four. Portland went up seven with 3:15 left, and a trio (yes, trio) of Paul George treys cut the lead to two 90 seconds later. And so it went…

Ultimately, the Blazers had the last word, as Nic Batum iced the game with a free throw in the waning seconds.

LaMarcus Aldridge led the Blazers in scoring with 28 and boards with 10 in WHAT I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH WAS AN UNBELIEVABLY GREAT GAME BETWEEN TWO OF THE LEAGUE’S GREAT (AND YOUNGEST) TEAMS. Damian Lillard added 26, aided by his 10/10 shooting from the stripe. Wes Matthews kicked in 15 and Mo Williams added 13 off the bench.

George erupted for 43, including a ridiculous 7/15 from deep. He dropped 17 in the fourth quarter, including the aforementioned absurd sequence where he nailed threes on three consecutive possessions in the final minutes. Roy Hibbert double-doubled with 16 and 14 against the team he nearly signed with a couple of years ago, and George Hill handed out 11 assists. David West went for 12, 8 and 5, while Luis Scola and CJ Watson each added 10 off the bench in the loss.

Hawks 100, Spurs 102

Let’s jump to the fourth quarter, where the Spurs led 100-97 with 13 seconds to play after a pair of Manu Ginobili free throws. The Hawks ran an iso for Jeff Teague, and he drilled a three with 4.5 seconds left. But on the following possession, Manu hit Tim Duncan with a pass at the elbow and Duncan knocked down a game-winning jumper.

Duncan had a 20/ 20 night—23 and 21 with a pair of blocks, to be exact. Ginobili, Tony Parker, Tiago Splitter, Boris Diaw and Marco Belinelli all scored at least 10 in the W.

Each of Atlanta’s starters scored in double figures, including Teague, who led the way with 19. Paul Millsap double-doubled with 15 and 14. Amazingly, the Hawks attempted just 5 free throws but still hung in there until the final moments.

Pelicans 131, Bulls 128 (3 OT)

A battle between two teams playing without their respective superstars needed 62 minutes and 56 seconds to decide on Monday.

The Bulls held a one-point lead with Mike Dunleavy heading to the line in the final 20 seconds of regulation, but he only split his free throws, setting up a Jrue Holiday game-tying jumper to force overtime.

In the first OT, NOLA managed just three points in the first 4:50, but an Eric Gordon trey in the closing seconds knotted the game and forced a sixth period.

The Pelicans jumped out to a fast start in the second overtime, but let a 118-113 lead evaporate into a 122-122 tie after a Luol Deng bucket with a few seconds left in the period. To the third OT we go…

This one went back and forth, with a Joakim Noah deuce tying the game at 128 with four seconds left. But Jrue stepped up in the clutch again, taking advantage of a defensive lapse and converting a three-point play with two seconds left. Dunleavy got off a prayer at the buzzer, but couldn’t force a fourth OT.

Ryan Anderson was the star for New Orleans again, coming off of Sunday’s 31-point showing in New York. He dropped 36 on the Bulls, draining 7 threes and 5 free throws in a ridiculous 57 minutes of action. (Somehow, he managed zero assists, but we’ll cut him some slack.)

Gordon added 23, Holiday posted 19 and 12, and Jason Smith managed 12 points and 14 rebounds starting in place of Anthony Davis. Tyreke Evans came off the bench for 13 points and 5 fouls in 24 minutes, a pretty discouraging line considering the length of the game and extra run available with Davis down.

Rockets 103, Jazz 109

Whoa! The Jazz pretty much controlled this one throughout. They led by 13 after the first quarter, and maintained at least a tiny bit of separation through the entire fourth quarter.

Gordon Hayward led the charge in the upset win, scoring 29 on 12/18 shooting. Rookie Trey Burke added an impressive 21 with 6 dimes and 0 turnovers, and Alec Burks dropped 21 as well. Derrick Favors posted a big double-double: 14 & 13 with perfect shooting from the floor and the line.

James Harden made 12/22 shots and 10/10 free throws on his way to 37 points, and he added 8 dimes. Dwight Howard went for 15 and 9, but, playing without Chandler Parsons (back), the supporting cast didn’t deliver. Terrence Jones flopped (1/5, 2 points), and guys like Francisco Garcia (13), Omri Casspi (13), Aaron Brooks (13), Patrick Beverley (8) and Omer Asik (2) just didn’t do enough in the loss.

Magic 80, Wizards 98

Orlando doesn’t seem to play with a ton of energy on the road, where they’re now 1-6 this season (compared to a strong 5-5 at home). Last night, Washington pulled away in the second quarter and never looked back.

Trevor Ariza led the way with 24 points (8/9), while John Wall added 16 & 13 and Nene and Marcin Gortat combined for 27. The Wiz hit 9/13 threes and 23 free throws on the night.

The Magic got 21 from Arron Afflalo and 16 from Mo Harkless, but not much from anybody else. Victor Oladipo shot just 4/12, though he did finish with 13 points and 6 rebounds. Big Baby and E’Twaun Moore each shot 1/8.

Bonus: Vintage Show Of The Day

This season, I’ll be posting a semi-random highlight video of a former baller at the bottom of my Post Ups. Today, fast-break maestro-turned-potentially horrible coach Jason Kidd gets the spotlight.

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  • LLC#12

    I was expecting a bigger season from Dwight, scoring wise. 16.6 seems a bit underwhelming, considering he put up 17.1 per game last season when everyone was going on about how injured he was the whole time.

    Deng is having his best year as a pro, by some margin. Over his last four games: 28.75ppg, 7 rpg and 6.25apg. 19.4, 7.2 and 4.1 on the season. I don’t buy the overused notion that Deng is playing this well cause its a “contract year”, because he is obviously the kind of player that plays as hard as he can no matter the circumstances.

    The Lakers are twelfth in the West, but would be THIRD (!!!!!!) in the East.

  • Stepfan Raiford

    Last two games, Ryan Anderson has been unreal.

  • http://signup.divinerenergy.com/ Anthony Dixon

    Portland relies on that 3 ball a lot but they’re for real.

  • i_ball

    Tim Duncan is slowly picking his game up. If he plays at a level close to last season the Spurs are can back to the Finals.

    I haven’t watched any Blazers game this season so I can’t really comment on them but they look for real. I still doubt that Portland will manage to compete with the more experienced teams in the West in the playoffs.

    John Wall can have lead the Wizards to home court advantage in the weak East.

    I hate myself for missing the Pelicans – Bulls game

  • theDankerNuggets

    that Portland Indy game was unreal! Paul George was unstoppable and at one point literally almost scored two threes in 5 seconds.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    That 13 assists game by John Wall must have been a mere “fluke”.

  • Caboose

    And will continue to be as long as Brow is out

  • Caboose

    The Magic are about 2 years, one more draft pick, and one veteran leader not named Jameer Nelson away from being really really good.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    actually, probably slows down a little faster…since Brow is out. He was feeding off of the attention Davis was garnering, teams are going to adjust and load up on Gordon/Anderson, unless Holiday can keep playing this well.

  • davidR

    you weren’t too positive of damian’s improvement this season (before the season started). how do you feel about him so far? he continues to play solid, and i’m just curious what your perspective is on him up to this point

  • Caboose

    The Pelicans’ offense is so free-flowing, I highly doubt teams are gonna load up on Ryan Anderson. Holiday moves the ball exceptionally well and creates offense. If anything, Eric Gordon is gonna get the lion’s share of the doubles, etc. Ryan Anderson is more than just a spot up shooter too, so I expect him to keep up his play (maybe if not at the 23ppg level, but maybe 20 ppg).

  • Caboose

    That shooting % is still scary, especially considering how low his assist total is. That said, the Blazers are killing it right now so it’s hard to find fault.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Damian Lillard is not playing that well……you realize that right?
    .
    i mean he’s scoring 20ppg, but he’s shooting .396% , he’s only putting up 5.7 assists, and he’s been truly atrocious on defense. The rest of his team is shooting lights out, and Lamarcus Aldridge is back to being the best 2-way power forward in the league, so it’s sort of like putting makeup on a pretty decent looking girl, and surrounding her by models. She is going to look better just by association.

  • Caboose

    “Truly atrocious on defense” is still an improvement over last season…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    nah, i’m not saying they will load up as in double. i’m saying they will treat NOP as an “outside-in” offensive team, they will stop attributing so much attention to defending the paint (before Anderson came back, they were dead last in 3pt shooting) and be more focused on staying in more man to man sets. It won’t be immediate, but the adjustment in a week or so will be to slow down Anderson/Gordon (the shooters), while trying to make Holiday beat you.

  • Caboose

    That’s fair, and I think teams will find that daring Holiday to find slashing lanes isn’t gonna work very well. Holiday is good at exactly that. Granted, NOP would benefit GREATLY from at least one dude who could score from the post.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    think about it like this though, do you feel more comfortable with Holiday beating you off the dribble, or Anderson/Gordon beating you with spacing? — i choose the former.

  • Sérgio

    No mention of Deng’s 37, 8 and 7? Dude has been straight out balling this season.

  • Caboose

    Oh no I agree, letting Holiday beat you is the better option. I’m just saying that it won’t be as effective as teams think. I’m a pretty big believer in Holiday.

  • davidR

    gonna be honest, i’ve been so busy that i’ve only seen one game this season, and it was dubs vs thunder when iggy hit the game winner (one of the best games i’ve ever seen).

    just haven’t had time to follow anything nba related. kinda disappointing to know dame isn’t playing well. i did notice wes and LA have been playing lights out, so that’s my fault for overlooking them. i just assumed dame would be playing solid with the blazers playing so well

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    hey i am too! just saying, you pick your poison. even though Holiday can and probably will be more than substantial in that role, it’s the option i’m sure NBA teams will pick over letting Anderson do what he did last night.
    .
    That and the “contain shooters” option is typically a more consistent way to take something from a team, which means less prep time needed to execute the gameplan. With the NBA’s hectic schedule, i’m sure that plays a significant role

  • Caboose

    Case in point: Dwight-less Magic. Perfect example of an inside-out team forced into an outside-in role. The difference being, they lacked a penetrating and effective point guard.

  • Junkie

    I heard a good one today. Last time the East and West was this unbalanced, they were tearing down the Berlin wall.

  • Caboose

    This era of PG play is utterly ridiculous. Has there ever been a time when a position has been as loaded as this one? In approximate order as of THIS SEASON:
    Chris Paul
    Russell Westbrook
    Tony Parker
    Stephen Curry
    John Wall
    Ty Lawson
    Eric Bledsoe
    Mike Conley
    Jrue Holiday
    Kyrie Irving
    Ricky Rubio
    Damian Lillard
    Jeff Teague
    Steve Blake
    Brandon Jennings
    Kyle Lowry
    Michael Carter-Williams

    That’s a huge list of exceptional point guards dominating the league. Not to mention, there’s also Rose and Deron, both of whom I left out because of injuries.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Monday night thoughts

    1.Portland is the best team in the West their only weakness their bench

    2.Ryan Anderson unreal shooting display

    3. Only Lebron is a better Small Forward right now than Paul George

    4. Why did Chicago not take out Hinrich he sucked last night

    5. Don’t any of you retarded troll understand that Damien Lillard is a GUNNER he is a straight up VOLUME SHOOTER that is what he does jack up 3′s and mid range 2′s he is a good shooter with great shooting range so who cares what his shooting percentage or his low assist total you dummy do realize that he does not have to make his teammates better Matthews,Batum,Aldridge can create there own offense and get there shot off anytime they want so you idiot can “HATE” all you want to but understand that Damien is an All-Star this season and who cares if he don’t play defense Lillard is on that long list of point guard that can’t play good on-ball defense
    there is only four great defensive PG’s in the league Paul,Rondo,Conley,Westbrook

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he’s playing well! just he’s not the PG everyone is making him out to be. i mean, he’s not even an all star in the west right now, but Portland’s record has people chomping at the bit to launch Lillard up onto the “elite PG” pedestal, which he doesn’t quite qualify as yet…imo.

  • Mo

    What about durant?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    LOL, don’t tell Jameer that tho, he doesn’t believe you

  • Nathan Shane Long

    George is a better overall player offense and damn sure defense over Durant and Carmelo

  • Caboose

    Lol Jameer is the most maddeningly inconsistent player in the L. Sometimes, he’s efficient, confident, and slashing like an All-Star. Other days, he brings the ball up, passes it to someone else, and misses a couple 3′s. It’s strange.

  • Caboose

    4 great defensive PG’s in the L: I’ll challenge at 6, adding Holiday and Rubio on that list. At the very least, Rubio.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Sure has yet I feel his time as a Bull is coming to an end. He’ll continue to put up huge numbers this season and the Bulls organization will be cheap as usual and let him walk.

  • Caboose

    And if you think Lillard has some pass because he’s a “VOLUME SHOOTER” or whatever the f*ck that means, you’re wrong. Dame is far from an All-Star this year so far.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    I pictured Bill Walton asking that question and it was very amusing lol

  • Caboose

    Haha I feel so insulted now…

  • Nathan Shane Long

    ON-BALL DEFENSE NOT INCLUDING JUMPING PASSES LANES AND INTERCEPTING PASSES LIKE RUBIO AND HOLIDAY DO

  • Caboose

    Yeah. Rubio.

  • Mo

    But but george has a much better team than durant, durant makes his team better george doesn’t.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    these will be the west All-Star Paul,Westbrook,Lillard

  • Caboose

    Ha. You forgot Curry you idiot.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Portland better than Golden State stupid

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Who has been hating on Lillard? I think a majority of people on here are very high on his offensive game. Sure his defense is shakey but so are a lot of players in the league. He hasn’t even been in the league for 2 full seasons yet so for what he’s doing thus far it’s pretty impressive.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    STOP IT

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Haha I meant I read it in his voice and it was funny

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Are you serious? Duran’ts team made the Finals 2 seasons ago and probably would’ve done it again had not Westbrook been hurt. Let’s not downplay the Thunder in order to make that argument valid. I don’t agree with Nathan at all but to say George isn’t in the discussion because his team is better is just irrational.

  • Mo

    Sorry

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    sometime around 2010 Dwight said something about Orlando needing a second star, or something with that implication. it seems like ever since then, Jameer’s confidence has been as unpredictable as his play. i think those comments really messed with his head, he thought he was that guy.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    DON’T YOU DARE MAKE EXCUSES FOR THE “GREAT” ALMIGHTY KEVIN DURANT lol

  • Nathan Shane Long

    It’s sad all you troll cunts “VOTE DOWN” my comments out of pure dislike of me and not by my actual content of my comments

  • Caboose

    Curry is averaging more points, assists, rebounds, steals, blocks, FG%, 3pt%, 3 pointers made, PER, TS%, eFG%, win shares, and win shares/48 minutes. There is literally NOTHING that Lillard is doing better than Curry than having a better team.

  • Caboose

    Only you would be offended by down votes on a basketball site. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

  • Caboose

    He was just coming off that All-Star season…

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Look at the team record stupid that all i have to say

  • i_ball

    I’d say the Warriors are better team on paper. Portalnd is just overachieving at this point. The Warriors might have a better record the the Blazers when the All Star Game comes

  • Caboose

    By that logic, the All-Star team should be composed only of players from the Pacers, Blazers, Heat, and Spurs, right?

  • i_ball

    I’ll have Tony Parker than – thank you ;)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk
  • Nathan Shane Long

    i will say that Matthews and Aldridge are ALL-STARS as well is your dumbass going to disagree with that

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    and Parker….who has been the 2nd best PG in the league.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah, and they were coming off of a finals birth. lol, i mean, he sort of had a good reason to feel how he felt, but Dwight wasn’t really wrong.

  • Mo

    Thats because durant is awesome.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the 3rd best record in the East is 9-9

    the 3rd worst record in the West is 9-10……

  • Caboose

    Matthews. Wesley Matthews.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Yes him

  • i_ball

    You realize that there are 30 games before the All Star break. The current team record doesn’t mean a thing. The starters are a chosen by the fans and probably Kobe is getting a spot even though he is not playing. That leaves 3 or 4 more guards – Paul, Westbrook, Curry and Parker.

    Paul and Westbrook are locks if healthy. Curry will make at least as a consolation for last year. And you need to have at least one Spur because of the record – Parker. There is no place for Lillard.

    EDIT: And I even forgot Harden… I don’t know if any other 2 guard is making it.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Gold

  • LakeShow

    You’re wrong about Portland being the 2nd best team in the West. If you mean right now. Then they are 1st, but overall they still aren’t top 4.

    Durant is still as good or better than PG. You can’t say PG has been certifiably better. Durant just put up 32-12-10-4-4 on 66% FG’s… It’s highly debatable.

    Chicago didn’t take Hinrich out because no one can run point better than he on the Bulls.

    You’re not going to make us approve of you’re comments by calling us “stupid, troll, c*nts” either.

    You need to take a step back look how ridiculous your comments are and then step back in and try and tackle it from another approach.

    We welcome your opinions. They are just that though, your opinions.

    Oh and I agree, Ryan Anderson shot the ball unreal last night.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Be that as it may that has nothing to do with what I said.

  • i_ball

    and Harden…

  • Nathan Shane Long

    No one gonna give Curry a SYMPATHY spot on the roster because of what happened last year Paul and Westbrook are locks but Portland will have some REPRESENTATION ON THE ROSTER NO DOUBT in the past teams like the SPURS,PISTONS,CELTICS,WIZARDS have had multiple all-star players on the roster

  • LLC#12

    I’d put Calderon and Dragic above a couple of those guys. I totally agree though, there’ll be a lot of snubs come all-star weekend.

  • LakeShow

    You accidentally forgot Curry and Parker. Heads up.

  • LakeShow

    What does any of that prove? lol, just playing.

    Overwhelming evidence…

  • LakeShow

    Matthews?

    When did 16-4-2 ever get someone into the All-Star game??

  • LakeShow

    Won’t Kobe get voted in no matter what too?

  • LakeShow

    Dragic definitely.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Dumbass troll you do realize throughout the Spurs dominate run over the past decade Tony Parker has made the all-star only 5 times so his team having a great record has not made him a lock for the all-star team over the past several years and like i said before Curry will not get a sympathy selection this year

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Harden and Matthews should be the all-star shooting guards in the west

  • i_ball

    Lillard can’t be an all star of everyone is healthy, the West is just stacked with guards. Even if you leave Curry out, there is still no place for Lillard. This is how the teams will look if everyone is healthy:
    G: Kobe, Paul, Westbrook, Harden, Parker, Curry
    F: Durant, Love, Griffin, Aldridge, Davis, Howard, Dirk

    And that’s if the two wildcards are for Guards… Lillard’s chance is to be the last selected player if Kobe is not voted in

  • guest

    You’re the c*nt. You c*nt.

  • i_ball

    I think he will – he makes grown men i China cry!

  • i_ball

    There are no shooting guards in the All Star selection – just guards

  • LakeShow

    If a dumbass troll is more intelligent than you, what does that make you?…

    Moving on… Precisely, Parker has been snubbed on to many All-Star teams to continue to be snubbed. He is a veteran now and has taken his team to the Finals several times. The voters realize this and will reward him.

    “Curry will not get a sympathy selection this year”

    What the hell does that mean? Curry is arguably the greatest young shooter ever. His team will challenge for the West crown.

    Why would there be sympathy involved?

  • i_ball

    He is the best player on that team, so yeah – he is a lock!

    btw it seems you are the dumbass troll here

  • LakeShow

    It does seem that way doesn’t it i_ball…

  • LakeShow

    I think he thinks it’s hating on Lillard to call him out for (1)playing no defense, (2)not diming anywhere near PG numbers, (3) shooting below 40% despite being considered by this fellow as an elite shooter…

    I like Lillard. Really nice player, he just isn’t as good as his “20ppg” elite shooter label.

  • LakeShow

    K, that’s cool you “think” they “should”, but Matthews won’t be.

    He’s just being a fantastic role player, that’s it.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Since everyone think that Curry got screwed out of an all-star spot last year that what i mean by sympathy selection and how can your dumbass say that Golden State will challenged for the “west crown” when they are 8th in the west right now the spurs own their ass they can’t handle the Thunder and Portland and the Clippers are better than them

  • Sérgio

    Yeah, and they will regret this decision afterwards.

    I find it funny how everyone was supporting a Deng trade in favor of Jimmy Butler by the end of last season and had to suddenly quiet down since Butler’s play has proved that he still has to go a long way before getting close to Deng’s value to the team.

  • Sérgio

    Absolutely. Just scratch a guards spot off the list.

  • i_ball

    The are playing without their 2nd best player and best perimeter defender. They will be better defensively this year.

    Didn’t they beat the Thunder once already (with a buzzer beater) and after that lose to them (via a buzzer beater). I’d say those team are a pretty close match up.

    It seems you believe too much in Protland – they will go out in the first round. Lillard will get dominated by whoever PG he matches up with

  • LakeShow

    Do you really judge a team on how it is doing now as if the same thing will be happening 6 months from now??

    The Blazers have no reason to be the best team in the West, yet they are. Will they be first at the end of the year? Hell no! Good chance not top 5. There is 60+ games left!

    They have a great starting lineup as you noted, but no bench. That doesn’t work well for a team unless everyone stays healthy all season. That’s not likely with the starters getting so many minutes.

    Batum and LA aren’t bullet proof.

    Do you not understand the impact Andre Iguadala has on a team? He makes them better on both sides of the court.

    The Warriors have a:

    Top 5 PG. Top 5 SG. Top 5 SF. Top 8 PF. Top 5 center. And Top 5 sixth man. Elite shooters. Elite defenders. Good coaching.

    What do you not understand about that? The Warriors are contenders.

    You are completely overrating Portland.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    you do understand that both Curry&Thompson are great streak volume shooters but yet when they are off they are off needless to say both don’t play defense either Andre Iguodala is not a clutch impact player and when did Barnes become a great “sixth man” it seems like your one of the idiot that is in denial of Portland success and just scream out their “OVERACHIEVING”

  • LakeShow

    Devils Advocate:

    He is still scoring 20ppg on 16 buckets. Not too terrible considering the FG%. The 2.3 TO’s is nice for a PG no matter how many dimes he’s tossing.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    you just another idiot that want to scream out that Portland is OVERACHIEVING Portland is the truth they prove it last night anyway does anyway realize that Portland is doing major work without their 1st round pick CJ McCollum who will bolster their bench when healthy

  • i_ball

    LOL, Dude. Iggy beat OKC at the buzzer. Curry an Thompson are not streaky shooters or their streaks are really really long.

    Barnes is better sixth man than Mo Williams for sure. You can’t be sober and actually thinking that Portland is better than Golden State. The Blazers only have a better player at the 4. Portland will be totally outmatched by any of the better teams in the West

  • LakeShow

    You’re not a “streak shooter” when you shoot over 40% on 3 pointers.

    That’s called consistent superiority in shooting.

    Streak shooters are guys like JR Smith, Jamaal Crawford, Nick Young.

    You don’t watch the GSW I can tell.

    Because you don’t know that Klay Thompson is a very solid defender and Barnes is obviously one of the best players coming off the bench in the L. He’s averaging 13ppg on 50% from the field and 50% from 3.

    Andre Iguadala is a clutch player? Who said that???

    Do you always overrate teams that come out the gates well or just this year?

    Portland is OBVIOUSLY not as good as their record indicates.

  • LakeShow

    We are like a 1, 2 punch here lol.

  • LakeShow

    Cj McCollum…
    Perfect someone to take away mins from the other best bench player, Mo Williams… Perfect…

  • Caboose

    I care more about Assist:TO than actual Turnovers…

  • Nathan Shane Long

    How is Portland Overrated and they beat the league best team last night dumbass? as far as Curry&Thompson go they shoot over 40% on three because that pretty much all they shoot really you know Thompson can go cold from outside any given night just because Portland has become an epic surprise team so far does not make them a fluke OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED THEM PLAY BESIDE LAST NIGHT MAYBE they are legit and do you understand that they are doing major work without their 1st round pick CJ McCollum

  • i_ball

    So CJ McCollum is the final piece that will take Portland to the Finals, beating all those weak ass teams from the West along the way.

  • i_ball

    So they shoot 40% from three because they shoot a lot of threes. I hope Josh Smith doesn’t read your comment.

    Make a prediction – what will Portland’s record be and how far will they go in the playoffs?

    I say 55 wins, first round exit! I’m not hating, they are just the 5th best team in the West.

  • spit hot fiyah

    i actually up voted this comment to make u feel better

  • spit hot fiyah

    not sure that analogy works. things started balancing out once they tore down the wall

  • bringbackthesonics

    if it makes you feel better i down voted your comment based on the content.

  • i_ball

    @nathanshanelong:disqus your troll comment generated 100 comments on the article. Keep trolling us and making SLAM happy

  • minstigate

    Disclaimer: Portland fan

    While I appreciate Nate’s enthusiam, I’m not as confidant the Blazers will be at the top toward the end of the season. However, I think you’re under-rating their chances as much as he’s over-rating them.

    What the Blazers are doing is an advanced stat nerd’s dream come true. They’re incredibly good at getting efficient play across the board. Your comment on Lillard (definitely not elite or an all-star… yet) demonstrates it pretty well. He’s quite bad close to the hoop and even from mid-range. But most of his shots come from 4, where he shoots about the same %: 40%. He focuses on 3s and generally takes it inside when the team doesn’t have a better option. His main goal when doing so appears to be to get to the line, where he’s great. He’s not getting the calls an elite guard gets yet, but when he does, his EFG% is going to skyrocket. It’s decent as it is. That’s why it’s not fair to Lillard to look at his abysmal FG%. That’s not where his focus is. He’s clearly working the game in other manners, and most people haven’t caught up to the strategy just yet. That’s not to say he’s an all-star. And if he is, it’s because his approach (obviously guided by Stotts) will have proved to be superior if the Blazers record remains at the same win %.

    The Blazers team as a whole is very similar. None of the traditional metrics, save point differential (which bears out their quality), correlates well with their record. The same applies to their defense, which suffered from a horrendous start to the season. But when you go to the advanced stats, they start looking much better. So, while the Blazers don’t have the mega talent that a team such as the Miami does, they play a style of ball that may yield a win against teams with that mega talent and is only possible because the team consists of parts willing to play that style. It’d be a shame to put a Kevin Durant into this system. It wouldn’t play to his talents. But the question that teams like Portland, San Antonio and Indiana are forcing us to ask is whether the well executed game plan wins out over mega talented players. Given the NBA’s penchant for star marketing, I’m pretty sure the answer to this question is obviously in favor of the individual game. But in a purist’s world, where all is even, you’d have to see the team game winning out.

    All that said, we’ll see if Portland can keep it up. Having watched them all season, I can’t believe they are where they are. They’re playing great team ball, but aside from Matthews, no one is crushing the individual stats (and Matthews is just shooting well). Both Lillard and LA are having good seasons overall, but they have much more potential. Batum can do much more. Lopez is somehow effective. Williams is frustrating and Wright, who you forgot to mention when saying they have no bench (also consider the Portland bench outclassed Indie’s last night), has been disappointing and could come back to a solid average. So, while you look at the record and say they’re over-achieving, I look at their individual performances and say they have quite a bit of room to improve.

    What will ultimately determine whether the Blazers come out in the top 4 is whether they can improve enough relative to the rest. For my money, LAC, HOU, and GSW (even without Iggy) are all under-performing. How well they play will likely determine Portland’s future in the regular season.

    Beyond the regular season, it would be interesting to see how they fair. It’s bogus to say the regular season has nothing to do with the post season. Teams that play a level above, especially in terms of effort, generally are able to push even higher in the playoffs. Boston’s recent championship team was a great example. Also, only Lillard doesn’t have playoff experience. And he is quite the quick study. So while I might not predict great success, I wouldn’t quickly write them off either.

    Sorry for the super long comment. Just thought Portland was being a bit misrepresented and misunderstood.

  • Minstigate

    err… not from 4. Although he did have a 4 point play last night, I think. Maybe it was Matthews.

  • LakeShow

    Can you name a player who never went cold? All shooters are streaky by your definition.

    Once again CJ McCollum will not help this team.

    Portland is notoriously one of the hardest cities in sports to play in. They are always good at home. This is called a hot streak.

    Do you recall the Rockets winning like over 20 games in a row a couple years back? Did you completely buy into that? Did that make them best team in the L? Even close?

    Teams can go on streaks sometimes. Portland’s happens to be coming right out the gate.

  • LakeShow

    Stupidity always generates allot of comments.

  • LakeShow

    Allot of good points.

    Let me start out by saying you’re neither a cunt or a troll. And made some good observations.

    I think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment if you think they have a chance at top 4 though.

    SAS
    OKC
    GSW
    LAC
    HOU
    Those are almost surely the top 5 teams that will end the season with the best record in the West.

    With the (in order) Timber-Wolves, Blazers, Pelicans, (hopefully for my sake) Lakers, and Mavericks rounding out the rest of the seeds. I expect Portland to make the playoffs with somewhere between the 6th and 8th seed. With a slight possibility of 5th.

    IMO

  • LakeShow

    Why?

    If LA, and Batum can share the assisting then why does it matter how many assists he gets?

  • minstigate

    And, just to make sure I reply to myself a bazillion times, about Portland’s D.

    It emphasizes limiting 3s. That’s exactly the sort of thing I’m talking about as deceptive. Their D looks terrible because other teams do so well in the paint. But, they also restrict other teams’ more efficient outside shots and probably cut 10 points off a normal total.

    The Blazers are winning because they’re playing smart. If teams with more talent catch on and begin to understand why Portland is having success, they’re probably screwed. Of course, Portland’s built for exactly this kind of efficient game, so maybe not. That’s why they’re one of the more interesting teams in the league this year.

    Is any of this making sense? Or does it just sound like the rationalization of a fan?

    By the way, Lakeshow, as a Blazer fan, I’m honor bound to hate you. But you seem like a jolly fellow. Maybe in another life we could be friends:)

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    I do too I’m very high on Lillard. Hate is such a cliche these days it blinds the fact that you can actually have a different opinion.

  • LakeShow

    Yeah, F you too! :)

    Being a Sonic’s fan and Lakers fan the I-5 Rivalry is real in this one! hahah

  • Nathan Shane Long

    I know today the day I go to “war” against all you troll cunts that HAVE NO LIFE and sit in front of your laptops all day long LOL

  • Nathan Shane Long

    AND BLIND HATRED AND DISLIKE BECAUSE SOMEONE SPEAK THE TRUTH AS WELL

  • i_ball

    Time will tell who was right but I will call you out when that happens

  • maggle

    That’s your whole list? Try adding Holiday and Rubio, and also the best defensive on ball PG in the league, Avery Bradley… I understand he’s more of a SG, but hes 6’2 and played PG all season

  • LakeShow

    Let me help you. It’s not blind hate.

    People don’t like CAPS LOCK.

    People don’t like being called stupid or a cunt.

    People don’t like others acting like their opinion is greater than theirs.

    If you came to this web-site with a sense of humility and respect for others opinions, and made attempts to show why your arguments make sense, rather than cramming it down our throats… maybe we could see your side, or at the very least, agree to disagree politely. But rather you slap us upside the head with derogatory names, and comments.

    We actually all think we are speaking the truth. That is what you seem to not comprehend here. We are not here to disagree with you, we are here to all display our opinions.

    You’re the only person on here that can’t seem to “get along” with everyone else.

    That might be something to think about…

  • Nathan Shane Long

    This coming from the same idiot who tried to troll me several months ago and i put your cunt ass in your place and it’s been straight hate ever since then right cuntface

  • LakeShow

    How ever you say it happened, right Nathan?

    You’re obviously progressing with your people skills though.

    You only called me an idiot, troll, cunt ass, and cuntface in that paragraph.

    BTW, it’s not trolling to state your opinion and disagree with others opinions.

    Just a heads up lil feller.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Yeah I didn’t agree with that when those talks were starting. Deng is such an important piece to that squad it would be thee biggest mistake to let him walk. Hell they shouldn’t even trade him IMO. He’s worked hard for this organization and he deserves to get paid.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i think both of you are going to just be looking at this differently.
    .
    Caboose is arguing this from the perspective of “Lillard is a point guard”
    .
    You are arguing this from the perspective of “Lillard is a basketball player”
    .
    The question is really, “which perspective is appropriate in this context?”

  • davidR

    see below, minstigate’s response

  • davidR

    great insight. you should comment here more often!

  • davidR

    you’re neither a cunt or a troll. nice way to start lol

  • LakeShow

    Yeah. Sounds about right.

    I think both perspectives represent an intelligible thought process. For me it’s kind of my same argument for why KB didn’t need to get 7 dimes a game on average.

    Kyrie, Curry, Lillard IMO don’t need to get over 7 apg in order to be elite at the PG position.

    Naturally speaking though, Lillard, through usage rate alone, should be around 6 or 7 assists with great shooters like LA, Batum, and Matthews surrounding him.

    My whole argument started with me as the Devil anyway haha.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    uhm, Isaiah Thomas is so unbelievably underrated.
    .
    AND YOU LIVE IN SACRAMENTO
    .
    i am ashamed. of everyone who didn’t mention him. but you the most.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Whatever you and your troll slam boyfriend NBK were the first cunts to troll me months ago as i recall and i just fired back and called you and him exactly what you are TROLLS WITH NO LIFE THAT JUST LOOK AT YOUR COMPUTERS ALL DAY CAUSE YOU HAVE ZERO LIFE and the blind hatred started from that moments on

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    “Lil feller” lol

  • Caboose

    I…um..hrmm..sh!t. (technically Berkeley, but yeah, from Sac….)

  • Nathan Shane Long

    How in the hell can one of the most Small Market teams in pro sports be one of the most “hardest cities in sports to play at” the Rose Garden is not exactly Qwest F’N Field or Cameron indoor stadium you really are a dumb cunt for saying something like that

  • LakeShow

    How is it having zero life to get paid to comment on your hobby all day?

    What do you do when your at work all day?

    Here… this should help us learn who is a troll… Instead of arguing over who is a “troll cunt” and who is not, lets just debate basketball. No “trolling”, just basketball, okay?

    ………………………………………………………………………………………….

    Why do you think a 6’3″ Cj McCollum would help a team who’s depth is severely lacking except at the one position he plays?

    How is the log jam of Mo Williams, Cj McCollum and Damien Lillard going to help the Blazers depth like you claimed?

    **Notice: no name calling or elementary behavior, strictly a basketball discussion…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    ahh maybe that’s not the same. do you get Sacramento stations? as in, all Kings games?

  • Caboose

    I don’t, no. I get all the Warriors games.

  • LakeShow

    What places are like Quest Field? They set a new record every other week… You do know we are debating basketball not football right?

    You didn’t know that the Rose Garden is one of the most difficult places to play? Do you watch basketball???

    You do know that the Jazz’s stadium is also one of these teams who’s arena is hard to play at? Right? Please say yes…

  • LakeShow

    “So they shoot 40% from three because they shoot a lot of threes. I hope Josh Smith doesn’t read your comment.”

    LMAO. Nailed it!

  • LakeShow

    Is Ray Allen a streak shooter to you? lol…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    ahh well, then you are excused. Same level of shame as everyone else.

  • Caboose

    Well….I’ve been to 2 kings games this season….

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i saw, you want me to address it? it’s pretty spot on i’d say.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    not satisfied with sharing the shame of everyone else? you want your own special serving?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you are 100% on point about Portland’s defense. They are 4th in 3pA against (fewest), and 2nd in opponent 3pt %, running guys off the line is a huge focus for them.
    .
    my criticism of the defense (idk if that played into your comment at all) revolves strictly around Lillard, who is more of a speed bump defensively, than a roadblock.
    .
    the team has elite defenders at 4 positions, and then Lillard. So it’s not a huge deal. just an area he can, and should improve on.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    First of all how does your troll ass get paid to comment? second of all CJ McCollum can ball you know he was the guy that all by himself upset DUKE in the tourney and the Blazers hit on Lillard in the draft who just like McCollum is a “mid-major guy” and CJ was projected to start alongside Damien in the backcourt but got hurt in training camp what logjam does Portland have they got 2 PG’s Lillard,Williams 2 SG’s Matthews,McCollum 2 SF’s Batum,Wright

  • Guest

    -olive branch knocked out of the hand-

  • LakeShow

    You immediately fail the troll test… but moving on…

    It’s called a desk job Nathan. They pay you to sit at a computer desk.

    Mo Williams is a slightly smaller version of CJ. He is playing 25mpg this season. Meaning that he is playing back up Point and SG for the Blazers. I highly doubt that they let a 10th pick in a poor draft class play mins over a former All-Star guard.

    The only reason would be to improve his experience, but not to make the team better.

    So they have to choose. Make the team worse and get a rookie some experience, or stay with the veteran and continue the hot streak.

    I don’t see CJ getting much play time. And if he does it won’t improve the Blazers. Guard is the one position they don’t need more depth at, and that is the only place they have depth.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    boy you stupid the Rose Garden has never been a Vaulted venue to play at in NBA history even when they were the JAILBLAZERS in the early 2000′s when they had Rasheed in his prime Damon Stoudamire Pippen Bonzi Wells Ruben Patterson Brain Grant Steve Smith they were great because there team was loaded not because they had a great home court advantage and LMFAO at you saying that the Utah Jazz Delta Center has or had a great home court advantage

  • LakeShow

    Do you like showing that you know nothing about basketball per chance?

    Cause that is exactly what you do…

    Wow… Just wow. What a waste of time you are.

    Nothing worse than someone that thinks they know everything, but is provably wrong and won’t admit it.

    Congrats you’re the worst…

  • LakeShow

    Funny that it isn’t one of the banned words lol… Probably one of the most offensive to most people…

  • bike

    Just as a side note, the word ‘cunt’ appeared on this thread 13 times.

  • LakeShow

    Oh and the Blazers ranked #1 on Bleacher Report for hardest places to play. While Bleacher Report is not the most accurate website in the world this is a unbiased article.

    “Just talking about the Rose Garden gives people goose bumps. As one of the largest arenas in the NBA, the somewhat remote location ofPortland also seems to have a positive effect on the home team.

    The time difference is one thing, but the weather is another factor. Just looking at the arena from the outside gives you an eerie feeling going in.

    The Blazers had the second-best home attendance in the league last season, which has been consistent for years. The fans back their team, and despite all of their bad luck over the years, it is a tough environment for the opposition to play in.”

    You should stop embarrassing yourself at some point here.
    I don’t even feel good about proving you wrong anymore…

  • Nathan Shane Long

    So be it you have a desk job anyway CJ was going to get sixth man or starter quality minutes if he had not hurt himself also can we wait at least three years before judging a draft class seriously also do you realize that Mo Williams was only an all-star in 2009 because he played alongside Lebron and had to cry his way onto the all-star roster and before that he was Michael Redd sidekick in Milwaukee and recently he has been irrelevant player on the Clippers and Jazz so who is he now in the league

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Hey lay off Josh lol

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Bleacher Report is like the TMZ of sports websites so screw whatever there idiot rankings say okay real people know that OKC and Golden State are the two toughest arenas to play in the league

  • LakeShow

    Any dude that put up 17 and 6 on 45% and 40% for 3 years in a row is good enough to be called an All-Star in my eyes.

    Those are very comparable to Lillards stats.

    Why would they play a rookie over Mo Williams who is a proven solid 6th man?

    Who is Mo Williams now? An underrated back-up it sounds like…

  • Max

    Did you really completely forget about Memphis?

  • LakeShow

    Do you not see the graph of facts or do you just pick and choose what arguments you start?

    Was Bleacher wrong when they reported LeBron was the best player in the L?

    Some things are just facts. It doesn’t matter who reports them.

  • LakeShow

    YES

    Do you blame me? lol, they have been so boring and terrible this year.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Why compare Lebron being the NBA best player to how feared and vaulted the Rose Garden supposedly is like really you tell me “do you like showing that you know nothing about basketball per chance” how dare your troll cunt ass say something as stupid like that to me boy if i know nothing about NBA basketball then you damn sure don’t know anything troll when all you can do is recite stats from ESPN OR NBA.COM YOU TROLL MONKEY and you talking bout some ” I have a deskjob” CUNT PLEASE tell me how much cash you make talking basketball on the internet

  • house

    Agh Bulls shoulda won that game. Can’t believe Bulls choked so bad on the defensive assignment, (Hinrich) that allowed Drue to hit that and 1 layup. On another note Boozer has to go. A player who starts that can’t be relied on down the stretch to play reliable hard nosed defense is a glaring waste of space in the Bulls overall scheme. /rant over

  • SirGrey

    Do you know that before OKC and Golden State were elite teams they still had 2 of the most difficult arenas to play in ?
    This has everything to do with fan loyalty. Sh*t even Sacramento is up there on that.
    If it were about being a big-market team then why do the knicks, celtics and sixers have so many fair-weather fans ?

  • LakeShow

    You really think you know about basketball and you didn’t even know that the Rose Garden is one of the toughest places to play?

    Covo is over.

    That’s is like not knowing that MJ has 6 chips. Just basic basketball knowledge…

  • LakeShow

    DAMMIT

    He’s from the 206. I shoulda remembered him even more…

    I’d like a lions share of the blame please.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Please answer the question of how much money do you make by talking and trolling basketball all day long?

  • LakeShow

    I won’t tell you just because you’re a troll.

    I only converse socially with people that can carry a normal non-troll like conversation.

    “Doth not feedeth the trolls.”
    -Ancient Vedic writing.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Because you are clearly a very delusional liar

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Of course the Warriors do they have the most legit fanbase in the NBA no bandwagon at all OKC not so much hell the state of Oklahoma was so happy to have any pro sports franchise in that state they came out to support the team since the 2008-2009 season if you can remember back in 2005 when the Hornets were washed out of New Orleans and moved to OKC to play the Ford Center in OKC was sold out every home game during Chris Paul rookie season and don’t even mention the kings because Sleep train arena stays half empty unless they play a marquee team and the same goes for any other bad teams that once had there own “glory days”

  • LakeShow

    Yep.

    My job has been a figment of my imagination for the last 6 years…

  • Nathan Shane Long

    it’s real easy to lie on the internet

  • LakeShow

    Obviously.

    You’ve been claiming that the Blazers are the best team in the L and that their stadium is not a difficult one to play in all day.

    Obviously pretty easy to be a little lying whore.

  • Dagger

    That one post saved this entire comments section. Thank you.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    If i had a cake ass desk job like you claim to have i would have no reason not to come clean and brag about it on the internet since you making money real easy like but since you are a fake phony liar on some make believe B.S. i don’t believe you at all unless you come clean your not because you a LIAR you see me i am a real person hence the reason why i post under my real name you on the other hand are your typical anonymous internet troll piece of garbage

  • LakeShow

    Some people feel comfortable not bragging about finances.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Because your a liar

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Attributed

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    cuz East Germany was better.

  • pposse

    last time i checked between Portland and Golden State Lamarcus Aldridge is by far the best player from both teams. Whoever is counting on Portland to just fold first rd of the playoffs should really re-evaluate that claim.

  • LakeShow

    Highly debatable between Steph Curry and LA. I would say Steph Curry is better.

    Who did claim that Portland would fold in the first round?…

  • minstigate

    Lillard certainly leaves a lot to be desired on D. He’s been bad. No other way to put it. However, he has shown signs of life there. He’s fighting over picks (ICE), which is a major reason the Blazers have defended the 3 well. Earlier in the season, Lillard let anyone drive past him. He’s improved lately, and I hope the trend continues. If nothing else, he’s playing a little. He reminds me a lot of Roy, though. Roy wouldn’t play D all game, then he’d come up with a massive defensive play to win a game. Lillard blocked two 3 point attempts to save games against the Lakers and Pacers.

    I can’t agree with you about there being 4 elite defenders alongside him. Matthews and Batum are decent. Lamarcus is actually and deceptively very good. Lopez is on an island because of Lillard. Maybe when Lillard commits and plays D well, the Blazers will get near the top on D ratings. But until then, they play the odds like the house in Vegas. And that should be enough for a win most nights.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah saying they were elite is an exaggeration. Batum and Matthews are close to that distinction, Aldridge is a lot better than most people realize, and Lopez is very good at what he’s tasked to do. That’s my fault.

  • pposse

    idk i briefly read thru everthing and it seems like the general consesnsus is that Portland is the 5th best team in the west..bc of that i concluded that Portland is a first rd exit in the playoffs. But really Steph?

    Playoff wise LA is so much more important than Steph, but Steph is shining right now. Thats a first or second rd series i want to watch.

  • LakeShow

    What do you mean “playoff wise” LA is more important?

    Steph isn’t just shining “now”. He’s the third best PG in the game imo. He put up nearly the same exact numbers last year minus 2 assists.

  • LakeShow

    If I was a liar wouldn’t I … oh I dunno… LIE about it!

    LMAO

    You make yourself look like such a fool.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    Well once again here we are a refreshed 24 hour cycle and here you go troll round 2 right? trolling on a old post from yesterday just stop it cunt like really i don’t want to prevent you from doing your “JOB” that you claim to have getting “PAID” by trolling and talking basketball on a website with your make believe stay at home “deskjob” even though you won’t say how much you get “paid” or who “employs” you

  • LakeShow

    Why would I converse socially with a child who can’t even handle basketball debates without getting all sorts of butt hurt.

    Be gone with you peasant.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    but yet you can’t help but to reply to me over the past several months WHY CUNT WHY?

  • pposse

    playoff wise meaning a top PF is more important to the team than a top flight pg. PF score buckets and they score buckets 15ft and in. That physically effects your opponents more than anything Steph Curry can bring to the table and the ability to get easy buckets is more important. Not saying Steph is garbage by no means, but when the playoffs come and physicality is ‘allowed’ by the refs these defenders will close in on Steph and in most likelihood knock him off his game..maybe not for the duration of the game but for a quarter or two per game I see Curry being very inefficient and inconsistent.

  • LakeShow

    “That physically effects your opponents more than anything Steph Curry can bring to the table and the ability to get easy buckets is more important.”

    What about a 15 footer at 50% is so much better than a 3 pointer at 45% per se? You act like LA bangs in the paint.

    Scoring wise, you can’t make an argument for LA. Defense wise, obviously you can.

    Steph’s numbers went up in the playoffs. Not down.

    LA is scoring 23ppg on 20FGA this season.
    Curry is scoring 23ppg on 18FGA.

    In the playoffs LA has been less efficient than Curry in the playoffs by quite a margin offensively.

  • LakeShow

    Getting paid to throw poo at you is fun/easy haha.

    OH TROLL CUNT, OH TROLL CUNT, WHEREFORE ART THOU TROLL CUNT?

  • Nathan Shane Long

    You ain’t getting paid nothing

  • LakeShow

    Why would I work pro bono. lol

    …Yeah for 6 years I have came to the same job and have yet to receive a pay check… That’s likely.

  • pposse

    Yeah he probably was. idk i really don’t think that efficiency is as important as it is in the regular season as it is in the playoffs. Lebron was less efficient by a country mile from the bar he set for himself last yr in the regular season. But you know what raised? His volume or output did.

    Personally i think the Blazers are built very well for the playoffs, so ar ethe GSW but i would put my money on LA over Steph to be more important and the overall best player on the court. Steph will score more, but offenses run better thru the post, especially in the playoffs and the post season. Just look at the way the Lakers cruised to a 3peat with Shaq and how difficult it was with Kobe. Also, scoring PGs or hell any PG who is the focal pt of the offense hardly ever have supreme success in the playoffs. I can’t even remember the last time a great pg won it all. Tony Parker doesn’t count lol.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    You won’t even say what job tho cunt who “pays” people to troll on the internet all day?

  • LakeShow

    Think about it this way my lil cuntpadre…

    You’re not even getting paid.

  • LakeShow

    Yeah, great example: Shaq… He’s similar to LA…

    Did you just say that Derrick Rose led teams hardly ever have success in the playoffs? That’s what I heard.

    Agree to disagree man.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    and you ain’t either boy i tell you tho you have a great imaginary mind tho

  • LakeShow

    okay boy.

  • Nathan Shane Long

    IM DONE WITH YOU CUNT.

  • pposse

    Shaq is not the greatest example but KG on the T Wolves in 06 or whatever yr with Cassell and Sprewell is the type of playoff run that is very possible for the Trailblazers. This is probably the first yr where Aldridge is really in his prime and on a good team. I don’t see a let down from them but thats why they play the games.

    And don’t go there, thats a low blow bro! But look it up, teams led by star pg’s rarely have deep impact in the playoffs, TP being the exception but he just plays with the greatest pf of all time.

  • danpowers

    now that you mention it… dang, i really miss my girlfriend

  • danpowers

    dude, its just that nobody likes you because of the actual content of your comments

  • danpowers

    just wanted to throw in that a shooters 3pt shooting wont stay at his 45% reg. season clip during a physical playoff series. so i guess that would even their scoring efficiency come playoff time.

    im following this discussion and still try to understand the use or sense about comparing a PF with a PG…

  • LakeShow

    I think history is always waiting to be re-written.

    Can you name a championship team that did NOT have excellent wing play that won a championship?…

    You need a mix of inside and outside talent.

    People like to act like big guys are the route to winning, but there’s always elite guard/wing play to counter the post presence for championship teams.

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