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Post Up: Thunder Cats

Al Jefferson and Kemba Walker dominate the fourth vs the Pistons.

by Daniel Friedman / @DFried615

Sixers 121 (8-19), Nets 120 (9-17) OT

Evan Turner led the way for the Philadelphia 76ers and brought home the victory in this late-game thriller. With the fourth quarter winding down, Deron Williams had a shot to win the game for the Nets at the buzzer, but it clanked out to the left. This game would need an overtime period to be decided.

In the overtime, Brooklyn again had a chance to stick around with a late game shot from downtown, and with 16.9 seconds left, Paul Pierce knocked it in from downtown to give the Nets a 120-119 lead. Unfortunately for Brooklyn, 16.9 seconds was too long to leave on the clock. With just under six seconds to go, Turner curled around the top of the key for the hand off and drove to the basket to drop in the game-winning layup, leaving no time left on the clock for the Nets to counter.

When it was all said and done, Philadelphia took the victory and Turner led the game with 29 points and 10 rebounds. Thaddeus Young dropped 25, and Tony Wroten came up big off the bench for the Sixers with 19 points in 24 minutes.

Alan Anderson led the Nets with 26 points and 46 minutes, while Pierce totaled 24 points, 10 rebounds and five assists. Brook Lopez put up 22 points on 9-19 shooting from the field. Kevin Garnett and Joe Johnson did not suit up for the Nets in a matchup that Brooklyn could have used them in. Johnson cited personal reasons and Garnett took the game off to rest up.

Hawks 118 (15-12), Jazz 85 (7-22)

The Atlanta Hawks moved the ball well and never seemed to lose control of the tempo in a 118-85 beat down of the Utah Jazz Friday night. Lou Williams was the high-point man in this matchup that favored the Hawks with 25 points, but it was a total team effort.

The Hawks tallied 32 assists and gave up only 10 turnovers in the high-scoring win. Al Horford, who has been playing consistently well for the Hawks, put up 23 points on 11-15 shooting. Every player on the Hawks scored at least a bucket and four players were in double figures. Paul Millsap scored 14 points, snatched 10 rebounds and dished out three assists.

Enes Kanter and Alec Burks were the bright spots for the Jazz who could only muster up 85 total points. Trey Burke and Derrick Favors are still developing, and obviously so, as the two combined for a mere eight points.

Cavaliers 114 (10-15), Bucks 111 (5-21) OT

Coming into the game with a winning record at home, the Cleveland Cavaliers, led by a flu-ridden Kyrie Irving, were able to improve to 8-4 at Quickens Loans Arena in an overtime thriller on Friday night.

Despite nearly vomiting on the sidelines in the fourth quarter while sitting on the bench, Irving led the charge for the Cavaliers with a game-high 39-point performance. Including four free throws in the final seconds of the game to seal the deal. Cleveland shot a paltry 39 percent from the field, but Irving’s antics were enough for them to take home the win in extra time.

The Milwaukee Bucks and Cavaliers stayed close throughout the game, tied 47-47 at halftime, and then, after one of Irving’s lone misses, Tristan Thompson tipped it in to tie the game once again and force OT.

Jarrett Jack scored 17 points for the Cavs, and Andrew Bynum put up 8 points, and 3 blocks in merely 24 minutes. Cleveland had a great game from the charity stripe, knocking down 92 percent of their shots.

Bobcats 116 (13-14), Pistons 106 (13-15)

Kemba Walker had the hot hand on this night, hitting 12-17 from the floor, 50 percent from downtown and a perfect 9-9 from the free-throw line, leading the Charlotte Bobcats with 34 points in a 116-106 win over the Pistons on the road.

Though Walker was the highest scoring player of the night, Al Jefferson altered the game with his 15-point performance in the fourth quarter for the Bobcats. After trailing for most of the game, and found themselves down heading into the final period, but Jefferson began to find his rhythm and buoy the Bobcats down the stretch.

Jefferson ended the game with 24 points and 14 rebounds. Gerald Henderson added 22 points, and Ramon Sessions and Ben Gordon chipped in a combined 20 from off the bench.

Brandon Jennings put up 26 points in the losing effort, with Josh Smith adding 18 points and six rebounds. Andre Drummond also tallied 14 points and a game-high 15 rebounds.

Heat 122 (20-6), Kings 103 (7-18)

This season has been a learning experience of sorts for the Sacramento Kings, and this loss to the Miami Heat was no different, especially for Kings rookie standout Ben McLemore, who was introduced to LeBron James’ midsection after the reigning MVP slammed down a thunderous dunk on the Kings guard.

Sacramento has had trouble with the Heat historically, losing the last nine meetings between the two teams. On this night, the Kings kept the game close at first, going down by only three with just under a minute to go in the first half. But the Miami Heat were clicking, hitting over 61 percent from the field en route to their highest point total of the season (122).

Chris Bosh had the high mark for the Heat, putting up a team-high 25 points and eight rebounds. James totaled 18 points, six rebounds and eight assists. Dwyane Wade added 20 and Ray Allen scored 18 off the bench in the win.

For the Kings, DeMarcus Cousins led the way with 27 point and 8 rebounds. Ben McLemore scored 20 points and got dunked on, while Rudy Gay dropped 17 in the losing effort. The King should be somewhat happy about their effort despite the loss as they shot 58 percent from the field, they just failed to create fast break opportunities and find a rhythm enough to stop a rolling Heat squad.

Pacers 114 (21-5), Rockets 81 (17-10)

After taking a beating on the court and in the court of public opinion over the last week because of their first two back-to-back losses of the season, the Indiana Pacers came up with a resounding victory over the Houston Rockets at home, and at one point were leading the Rockets by as much as 46 points.

It was just one of those nights for Houston as Dwight Howard was one of the only players able to get going offensively. Leading the team, Howard put up 19 points, 12 rebounds and five blocks. But the other star on the team, James Harden, wasn’t able to get anything to hit. After shooting just 3-14 from the field, Harden only scored 12 points while snatching three steals.

On the other hand, the Pacers were clicking in a game that must have felt sweet after a tough week of losses. Indiana’s defense was tight and their offense was relentless, putting up a season-high 12 shots from downtown and posting their second best field goal percentage all season (53.1). Six players were in double figures in scoring and the team totaled 11 steals and seven blocks.

Suns 103 (15-10), Nuggets 99 (14-11)

The Phoenix Suns rallied back from being down 21-points to overcome the Denver Nuggets in a late-game showdown that saw the Suns come through when it mattered most, in crunch time.

At the 9-minute mark of the final period, it seemed as if the Nuggets had put together a worthy enough body of work that they’d get out of this one alive in the Pepsi Center in downtown Denver. After all, they’d have six players put up double figures in scoring and won the battle down low, outrebounding the Suns by nine. JJ Hickson alone would grab 14 boards.

But it wasn’t enough as the Suns rallied back to tie it up at 88 apiece with 8:25 left in the game. Then, it was all Phoenix from there, as Gerald Green and Markieff Morris would combine for 44 points and 14 rebounds. Green and Morris also sparked the momentum that would seal the win for the Suns. Goran Dragic added 17 points and six assists, and Marcus Morris put up 14 in 26 minutes.

Lakers 104 (13-14), Timberwolves 91 (13-13)

After letting up a 35-point first quarter to a Los Angeles Lakers team that did not feature former scoring champion Kobe Bryant, the Minnesota Timberwolves found themselves trying to get back in the game all night long.

Pau Gasol was a major factor in the Lakers holding off the Timberwolves to end a three-game losing streak at home in the Staples Center. Gasol led the team with 21 points, 13 rebounds and eight assists, including a pivotal four-point play in the third quarter in which Gasol was fouled by Corey Brewer while shooting a three pointer. The Lakers also played efficiently, shooting above 53 percent from the field.

Xavier Henry scored 21 points to match Gasol and Nick Young was the high-scoring man for the Lakers with 25 points, shooting 4-6 from downtown. Wesley Johnson added six points and five assists, including a nice one-handed jam in transition.

For the Timberwolves, Kevin Love was the best player on the court scoring a team-high 25 points and grabbing 13 rebounds. But Love was held scoreless in the fourth quarter and only Nikola Pekovic scored in double digits for Minnesota, who have lost 5-10 on the road this season.

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  • Conor

    17/6/6 (3s/1b) v. 18/6/8 (1s/1b)

    Rather even, excluding the 7:2 turnover count.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    1. kevin love is not a piece to build around. he’s a good third option on a championship team. i’d love heat to move bosh for love but that’ll never happen.
    2. I’d have taken drummond ten times over dmc. Drummond off raw talent is putting up stats. He needs to work with Zach Randolph on his post game.
    3. The Jazz need a new coach. There is too much talent on that team. The mormon market will love parker. Trey, burkes, parker, favors, and enes with hayward at 6th man

  • thebossman15

    K-Love with another one of those crazy stat lines that dont translate into w’s aldridge>>love

  • KipSmithers

    Knight has odd statlines.

  • Max

    Wow, just wow.

  • logues

    not taking anything away from Aldridge, but his supporting cast is quite a bit better than what love has.

  • robb

    lol I like you man, you’re pretty…peculiar

  • Chris

    What about the Raptors’ victory over the Mavs. I think that game is worth a review as well.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    So. Much. Ignorance.

  • MUBWAR

    they came back from 20 down in the first half

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Please address my points.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    thanks Rob B

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Interesting response. please expound

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Let’s just go for the most ridiculous one. You said the Sixers should trade Evan Turner for Dwyane Wade …. To ensure they get worse.
    And you were serious.

  • spit hot fiyah

    rudy gay is to shoot below 50% from the field as a king. true story

  • spit hot fiyah

    i’m losing track of the comedy knicks gifs. here is another one for the collection.

    http://i.minus.com/iGNkIZfwDjvOe.gif

  • spit hot fiyah

    is yet to

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Talent wise wade is better. But his health is a major risk factor as I stated above. I don’t see why that’s any irrational proposition. If wade doesn’t play or put up low numbers due to health concerns then I don’t see heat beating pacers

  • Conor

    Oh wow, look. D’Antoni plays Kaman against the Timberwolves and LA turns the preceding encounter’s twenty-point loss into a victory. Gasol and Young have really picked it up these past two weeks.

  • DeMacksBack

    Great win for the Bobcats last night. Big AL and Kemba were killing the Pistons and I can’t forget about Henderson, but his 22 points weren’t really that noticeable. But that 4th quarter outburst by Big AL was pretty entertaining to see!! Also does anyone know the diagnosis of Taylor? I know it’s something to do with his achilles, but I can’t find an update on him.

  • Conor

    To take the lead in the fourth… LOL

  • Caboose

    Ok, unlike most people here, I’ll actually address the points:
    1. Third option? No, KLove can be the first option on offense, he just needs a defensive stalwart behind him. Think if Love and Dwight were on the same team.
    2. I do like Drummond, but let’s hold off on judgment yet. Cousins has definitely had a better season so far. But I agree, I think Drummond will have the better career. But he can’t work with Randolph yet.
    3. The Jazz have talent, but it doesn’t quite fit. Like the Kings.
    4. Wade is infinitely better than Turner. Check out the efficiency. And defense. Why would the Heat want Turner btw?

  • Caboose

    So who else would have guessed that the Atlantic would be fought between Toronto and Boston?

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    To say Hakeem’s tutelage is too complex and unnecessary is mind boggling to me. Everyone who has worked with him has benefited from his teachings. What does the mormon market have to do with loving Jabari Parker (I’m assuming you’re talking about him)? In what universe would Miami trade Wade for Turner when it’s obvious Wade is still the better player by FAR. Hell that would benefit the Sixers not make them lose so they can win in the draft.

  • Nigel

    Not true. The game he left with a stiff knee, he was shooting 16.7 percent. Trust me, he’s on my fantasy team. I get your point though….dude has suddenly become a beacon of efficiency.

  • playa

    That’s some SMOOTH switch by Jr SWISH :)

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    I agree guards and sfs have improved because they have the necessary foot speed. But what low post player has dramatically improved with hakeem’s assistance? For post players i’d go with someone easier like zach randolph

    I never said wade is worse than turner. If wade can’t play then how is he effective. HIS HEALTH IS AN ISSUE. and turner will improve with lebron play

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Evan Turner is one of the 76ers worst offensive and defensive players…I mean he’s playing a ton of minutes and touches the ball a ton as well, so he has bulk numbers. But there is a reason he has the 6th worst offensive rating, & 5th worst defensive rating on his team….he’s not very good.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    1. Kevin love can get buckets. he’s a good scorer but he’s not dominant. he doesn’t dictate the game. He gets good stats but come on yao ming had more impact on the game in regards to the game. He’s also not defensively effective. Even if dwight and kevin paired up it really depend on the entire team and system.

    2. What do you mean he can’t work with Randolph yet? He needs to hit up Zbo and get pointers. Have you seen zbo in the post?

    4. I NEVER SAID TURNER IS BETTER THAN WADE. if wade doesnt play he has no impact on the game. His health is a huge risk factor for the heat.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    I think on a better team similar to monta turners efficiency will improve. I mean he’s still young, but I’d rather have tuner in the game than a wade who can’t even play.

    I thought about mayo for wade but turner is a bigger guard and better handle than mayo.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Wade is literally averaging 20-5-5 on 55% shooting. Wtf are you talking about? The occasional rest (which is what Wade takes) is nothing close to what you are implying. The dude is still a top 10 player. Evan Turner is yet to crack the top 50. Just stop, this is stupid.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    What is Randolph going to teach him lol, touch can’t be taught. Instincts can’t be taught. And Randolph is good because of those attributes.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Nobody denies wades talent but the stress of the game on weak joints or all ready inflamed joints later in season can cripple bron’s future success. Risk Averse. It’s different than anticipating some crazy accident

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    watch randolphs post play simple techniques to get buckets and yes increase in knowledge creates new awareness and instincts

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Uhm…Andre Drummond is nothing like Zach Randolph, not in his skillset, not in how he actually plays, not physically, not athletically, not at all. Having him learn from Randolph is like having Dwight learn from Dirk

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Dwight Howard has not drastically improved but he has improved nonetheless. Hell even Javale showed signs of improvement when he was on the block. As far as the Wade debate I’m not going to because we’re just not going to agree. I have the same thoughts as nbk has shown in his discussion with you above. No need in me restating it.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    I disagree. Howard does the same moves hook and sweeping reverse.

    That’s fine. You never replied to the black heritage comment and still you have failed to spit 8 bars

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    No it’s not. Drummond can learn simple old man moves from randolph that can assist him. Simple things like jab extension to get around the defender. Old grown man moves that zach has perfected. If an unathletic invididual gets success from certain post moves, why can’t a big with athleticism do so as well instead of super combinations like hakeem

    You said that dwight to dirk to sensationalize. Why did kobe learn from hakeem they are completely different players positionally.

  • LouisVuittonDon

    He is averaging 20 7 and 4 on 45% shooting, he is easily a top 50 players, you must have lost a bet over this guy or something, your tripping

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Man, he is taking 17 shots to score 19 points. Lol be impressed by that if you want. He turns the ball over on 16% of his possessions…compared to his whopping 18% assist ratio. Guys like Evan Turner, who play a ton of minutes and use a ton of possessions (26% usage ….. Which is higher than Eric Bledsoe in Phoenix) aren’t really good players to rely on bulk numbers over. You should watch him more, or pay closer attention.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    You wanna know why I haven’t replied to that comment? Because this IS NOT the forum for that discussion. You constantly want to reply to people on these threads spouting out your personal views on societal issues and that’s fine but this is a basketball site. I would gladly have this discussion with you trust me because every time I comment you seem to somehow come at me with these questions and I would LOVE to give you a piece of my mind on these topics. But this is not the place. As far as “spit 8 bars” dude if you really took that seriously I feel sorry for you. Once again this is not the place we are here to talk BASKETBALL. If I met you in person I would gladly get in a freestyle with you no problem. Basically in a nutshell I just don’t feel the need to reply to those non basketball related comments on a basketball site. It’s not fair to the other commenters on this site for you and I to go back and forth discussing non basketball matters.

  • LouisVuittonDon

    17FGA(16.9) to score 20PPG(19.7) lets not be rounding just the shot attempts now. Turner is adjusting from being a second option to the main perimeter scorer now that jrue is gone. D-wade plays with the most stacked team in the league with bosh,lebron,allen etc. all are guys who demand attention.

    Who alleviates the pressure for turner on the perimeter? MCW? its you who needs to better understand the game before you go throwing advanced statistics.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    what forum can i hear your views. are you on reddit

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    I normally don’t comment on forums like that. If anything I just like to read the articles. I prefer to have those discussions in person. Hell the only reason I comment here is because it’s basketball and it’s pretty lighthearted around here.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    What method should i use to get a quick 16 bar freestyle

    what if i spit a hot 16 first

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Ugh, you do realize Wades best season as pro came with Michael Beasley has the teams second option? I don’t care that Turner doesn’t have help, or that he’s learning his role. You can name Turner a top 50 player if you want, that’s fine, but are you actually reading the conversation taking place? This is stupid. Wade is 31, he’s a top 5 SG of all time. Evan Turner is getting good bulk numbers on an extremely sh*tty team. Be impressed by him if you want, but the context this conversation is being held under, is preposterous and stupid. Evan Turner is not equal to or better than Dwyane Wade. Argue otherwise all you want, I will just tell you now, that argument is stupid. Now say whatever it is you feel like saying, and count that as a win. I’m not entertaining this nonsense anymore.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    “Evan Turner is not equal to or better than Dwyane Wade.” when did I say wade is not better. I said his health is a concern and his leg will get worst through wear and tear throughout the season. Why take such a huge risk? the pacers are stronger than ever.

    Atleast evan turner is capable offensive player who can bring up the ball and a solid defender who can play the passing lanes well. It’s not like i suggested trade wade for jr smith.

    Also saying wade is a top 5 sg of all time doesn’t do anything for the conversation. Duncan is the best pf of all time but i’d take anthony davis over him right now.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    You can if you want. Like I said I’m not going to do that on a basketball site my friend. I’m only on here to speak basketball.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Thanks for the hospitality t ray

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    You got it dude.

  • Conor

    C’mon, Kiwi, Love is on another level. Aldridge is better defensively, but Love is much more talented.

  • theDankerNuggets

    No doubt, zero points in the fourth quarter is the most important stat line of Love’s game last night. They put Nick Young on him a couple times and he barely managed to get the ball.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    You implied it by saying the Sixers should trade Turner for Wade in order to ensure a better draft pick. And again by saying it would be wise for Miami.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Yes because wade wouldn’t play. He is unable to sustain the intensity of 05-06 and would rest or become injured.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    His best season was 2008-2009, not 05-06. Had you actually known what you were talking about, this dumb assumption never would have happened. Which illustrates my point, you are just guessing. You don’t actually know, or even care to know if what you are saying is making sense. It’s ignorant. And it’s not that you made this one obvious mistake, it’s that you do it constantly. You make no attempt to convey a well informed opinion, your goal seems to be just to say whatever you can in order to elicit a conversation. So with that being said, in a way, you are clearly succeeding. Which makes this my last reply here. .
    And even though Wade is unable to reenact that great performance (08-09), he is still clearly a much better player than Evan Turner. 60 games of Dwyane Wade = more wins than 82 games of Evan Turner…why? Because Evan Turner is not winning you more than a couple NBA basketball games in any given season. Whereas Wade has literally carried a terrible supporting cast to 47 wins. Nobody is saying he could still do that, but the principle of the matter is that despite not being as consistently great, Wade is still, a more productive, effective, and efficient player than Evan Turner.., Resting is fine! It’s what players with considerable experience do. Don’t confuse needing to rest with losing the ability to play. Wade has never in his career, been as bad (“as not good”) as Evan Turner is right now. There is no reason to believe that will change at any point in the immediate future.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Wades 08 09 season was statistically better only because he was the only one doing anything on his team same with the 09 10 playoffs… but his best performance had to be the 05-06 season and playoffs because he was putting up stats with a legit squad.

    No one is arguing whether wade is better than turner career wise. However look at wades durability you think he’ll last the way his knees acted up last playoffs. The only reason the heat won game 7 was breakout midrange game. WADE AVERAGED last year in the playoffs 16 5 5. He’s on the decline.

    Im saying the heat should act now as a prophylactic measure and trade wade for turner and somebody. I wouldn’t mind seeing turner and young go to the heat for wade.

    Why so condescending

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Because you just say things. Without knowing if you are right or wrong.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Right or wrong. I just gave you evidence and reasoning for the trade. Do you believe that lebron’s 05-06 year was better than 12-13? Just because the numbers went up doesn’t necessarily dictate the entire story. You rely to heavily on quantitative data but neglect the qualitative data in your arguments.

    Wade declined significantly last year during the playoffs. And this is a normal trend. Why do you think he’ll be ready to go and healthy. He has arthritic conditions in his joints.

    I think the Heat should capitalize and move Wade for the reasoning I stated. It’ll benefit the sixers as well getting rid of two pieces who are continuously putting effort to win games for no benefit to the sixers long term plans. Neither turner or young are considered long term pieces atleast it appears this way.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    LeBron’s numbers have never been better than last season. i don’t look at just stats. And I don’t just look at any one stat when I do reference them. I also understand how to read the stats I’m referencing.
    Team other thing I do is actually watch. I refrain from offering my opinion on things I didn’t see. Because I have the ability to understand that I can’t know what I’m talking about if I didn’t actually see the thing I’m discussing.
    Try it out.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    No

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    “you understand how to read stats your referencing” explain

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    And the Sixers aren’t continually winning games for no reason. They are in last place in the Atlantic. Despite the hot start. And despite Evan Turner and Thaddeus Young (who you threw in after this began) being completely healthy, they suck. Pay attention.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    they should be far worse. And i threw in thad young because it’d make sense. However, evan turner and thad do make an effort to win games. Plus neither are in the long term plans for the sixers as per my understanding

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    no i’d like to know what you mean “read” stats. and how does this provide a Right conclusion.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    lol they’ve lost 19 of their last 24 games. It’s pretty hard to be far worse than that dude.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Do some research. If you think 05-06 is LeBron’s best season statistically then you yourself clearly don’t understand the stats you are reading, I’m sure you can use google and figure out why that’s wrong. Take some initiative, stop asking other people to explain things to you.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    i don’t. you answered what my doubts about your method of justifying wades best season

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    mcw hasn’t been playing that stretch. but he came back last night look what happened

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    …….so they should trade Michael Carter Williams?

    Your point was that Turner is helping them win games they shouldn’t (that game last night … Did you even watch it anyway? Or are you saying they should have lost just because of who they were playing?) but you just made an implication that they are actually reliant on MCW…not Evan Turner.
    Again, you are just guessing.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    No what?!?! Ok let me make it simple. The sixers are in rebuilding mode. Evan turner apparantely is not part of the sixers future plans. MCW and Noel are part of the sixers plan.

    Without MCW the sixers aren’t winning he’s most valuable piece on that team. Turner had the better game last night but MCW is the one who orchestrates and provides a real chance for the sixers to win.

    Get rid of turner for a declining piece that still puts an effort to make fans come out to the games.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Let’s make it simple.
    .
    You want a team who is rebuilding to trade their improving 24 year old who currently has very little effect on the teams ability to win games for a top 10 player who could possibly end up injured….but isn’t.
    You think this makes sense. I think it’s stupid. We won’t agree.

    Have a good night.

  • spit hot fiyah

    missed that boxscore, my bad

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    First and foremost, Wade is never getting traded out of Miami. Just realistically speaking, he’s royalty down there, he’s a lifer.
    .
    But if trading him were appropriate … Doing it for a player who is a bad defender, and mediocre but productive offensive player is just not the solution. Maybe I’m wrong about Evan Turner long term, but at the moment, and from what I’ve seen, he is nowhere near a player of the caliber to fill a secondary role on a perennial championship contender.
    .
    You yourself said Kevin Love should be a third option…..and he is astronomically more effective than Evan Turner. I just plainly don’t think you are sincerely thinking out your opinions.

  • JML-G

    trading Wade for Turner is the most ridiculous thing ive ever read in SLAM comments!

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    You automatically jump to conclusions and think I would make turner the 2nd offensive option on a championship team. Lol no. He’d start but i’d make bosh the 2nd option offensively.

    However, realistically speaking the heat’s defensive intensity wins games. Spolestera needs to ramp up the effort and get greg oden back on the court. He also needs to play mike beasley more. But you neglect a simple point: wade average 16 5 5 in the playoffs last year. How are you confident his arhtiritic pain will not repeat and make his performance worst?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Read this: http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/79654/x-files-dwyane-wade

    And none of that was realistic. Greg Oden literally can’t play a lot. And Beasley needs to be kept on a short leash. The team is doing extremely well, ima just assume Spoelstra understands what to do better than you do.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Grantland is a good source of commentary on the nba.

    If bynum is capable, I can’t see what oden isn’t. Maybe spolestra needs to adapt a new scheme before he runs his players ragged. B e Z will be on a short leash with the veterans

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    You can’t see? That type of response is why you are frustrating.
    .
    They are different people. That’s what’s different. They have different DNA.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Yes different dna expression different epigenetics different protein synthesis for the cells within the connective tissue which influence joint health. But its not just protein expression but also physical activity as well that will influence the joint health. But getting basketball production is a multifactorial phenomena. Pyschological aspect can’t be neglected

    I’d rather see them throw oden into the fire and see how he reacts unlike what they did with eddy curry.

    You have to agree that spolestra runs his players ragged though. I don’t understand why. He doesn’t realize how much that damages the players in the long run.

    He needs change his coaching philosophy.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    He runs his players ragged?

    He has 2 guys playing more than 30 mpg. And those 2 guys are playing career LOW minutes.
    DO SOME RESEARCH, JUST ASSUME BEFORE YOU GIVE YOUR OPINION THAT IT IS WRONG.
    And no, risking a persons physical career is not what the Heat should do with Greg Oden. He’s unhealthy. He shouldn’t play. Well being is more important than “being thrown into the fire”

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Look at your sample size when you pull that 30 mpg. you fail to neglect how spo runs the playoff. Right now at this immediate moment everything looks good, but i am talking about the long run

    explain why wade put up 16 5 5 last playoffs

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    The long run? They have won 2 titles in a row. In the long run, you can only win a championship at best. No matter what year it is. To think he plays his guys too many minutes in the playoffs?…..is contradictory to the entire purpose of having a championship every season.

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    that’s exactly what I am saying. I don’t think wade can help win a title this year or in the coming years due to arthritic condition.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    But Evan Turner can? Looooool you still don’t get why this is stupid?

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    Yes he can play. He’s a young blood. Fresh legs built for it. If i didn’t think the spurs system was effective in helping aged players I’d trade wade for kawhi leonard but the spurs wouldn’t do that

    u still didn’t explain the 16 5 5

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Lol

  • AddingVelocityDontTellMe

    did I lol your thaddeus young for asik trade? no i respected your comment but gave my opinion as to why I didn’t agree with it. Unlike Religious debates where an absolute truth exists, multiple opinions can be correct.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    If you thought it was funny then say lol I don’t care haha I am not going to get offended. Opinions can be ridiculous. No matter what the subject is.

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