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Wednesday, January 15th, 2014 at 12:31 pm  |  89 responses

Celtics Trade Jordan Crawford, MarShon Brooks to Golden State in Three-Team Deal

Well, here’s a slightly unexpected trade, in which the Warriors get deeper, the Celtics get even closer to the NBA’s bottom and the Heat save some dollars. Via Yahoo!

As part of a three-team deal, the Boston Celtics have traded guards Jordan Crawford and MarShon Brooksto the Golden State Warriors, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

The Warriors will send guard Toney Douglas to the Miami Heat, and Miami sends center Joel Anthony and a future first-round pick and second-round pick to the Celtics, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Miami will send a first-round pick it owns from the Philadelphia 76ers to the Celtics, but that pick becomes two second-round picks should the Sixers miss the playoffs in 2013-14 and 2014-15. The Heat will save nearly $10 million in salary and luxury tax with the unloading of Anthony’s contract.

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  • LLC#12

    I wasn’t sure if Bostons tanking could get any more obvious. Turns out it can.
    Also, he wasn’t doing anything anyway, but Joel was Miami’s only true center, wonder if the Heat will make moves to address that. (I know they have Oden, but until he actually plays a game, he doesn’t count)

  • Saleem Rainman

    Golden State just more than replaced the missing punch off the bench coming from a guard after Jarret jack left, with BOTH Crawford and Brooks…wow.

  • TR

    Why would you want Crawford and Brooks? They seem to do the exact same ish

  • IggI

    Okay, did my Dubs get better???

  • Saleem Rainman

  • LakeShow

    Why would they get worse by adding two young scorers?

  • b

    this could be huge for the warriors, they needed a backup pg more than anyone

  • TTN

    Yeah I thought the same thing about Miami, toney Douglas can play (based on his New York days) so he is a nice addition but they got even smaller. Even though Anthony hasn’t been playing….

  • spit hot fiyah

    boston probably wanted to get rid of booth and wouldn’t give up one if u didn’t also take the other

  • Anthony

    And thus starts the “Era of Oden” in Miami….#CatchPhrase

  • i_ball

    The Warriors just got waaaay better! They should get home court in the first round at least…

  • Max

    Damn Jordan Crawford has shown he can play some ball, Warriors needed a good solid guard off the bench.

  • ATL dynamite

    They now have that secondary ball-handler for Curry like Jack last year, they are gonna be really really good (well when Jordan Crawford is in control)

  • Jerome

    Say hello to Miami Bynum. In related news, say good-bye to playing time Cole.

  • TR

    You think Cole loses playing time? I think hes better than Douglas

  • brothasdontsurf

    Why doesn’t the NBA look into the Celtics a little closer? Yes the trade looks legitimate but like LLC#12 said, it is so obvious that they are tanking.

  • i_ball

    Iggy was the secondary ball handler so far and he is doing great.

  • underdog

    It’s either Bynum, or they think Oden is almost ready to play again. Or both.

  • Sparker

    Crawford was clearly traded because he is not a 7-foot, lumbering behemoth. You cannot play on the Celtics, at this time, unless you are a 7-foot, lumbering behemoth. Joel Anthony, lift up those massive shoulders and come on down…

  • ATL dynamite

    But if the Warriors are seriously interested in contending they should reserve Iggy for April. It’s not like Iggy is already washed up like a Garnett situation but the W need to keep Iggy fresh, the more people coming in to take responsibilities off him the better.

  • 360

    Ahhh gotta suck to be that guy traded from the Heat

  • i_ball
  • GSW Fan

    Warriors could use two scorers off the bench. The problem with their roster before today was their lack of bench. Now we gotta get better at freethrows and cut back on turnovers and we’re finals bound

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    who cares if they are tanking? that’s not illegal. their coach and player’s aren’t tanking, just management. it’s how they got KG/Pierce/Allen in the first place, LOL, so it’s not a shocker they are doing it again.

  • dumb person

    Doesn’t the NFL share revenue between the teams? Why doesn’t the NBA do that? Wouldn’t it benefit the league to not have a permanent underclass of teams? This is kind of not the right place to post this but I’ve always wondered and thought you might know.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    Birdman is a true center also.

  • LP @ThisisEther

    No way Tony Douglas plays. Only if wade sits or chalmers is hurt.

  • Fat Lever

    Really depends on how they handle the Rondo situation. I could see this causing friction between Rondo and the C’s since Rondo probably just wants to get on the court and the C’s are looking towards the lotto.

  • dumb person

    I just realized that when I post as “dumb person” in reply to you the little arrow after my “name” points to your name lol not calling you a dumb person, I’m calling me a dumb person.

  • http://signup.divinerenergy.com/ Anthony Dixon

    Brooks will definetly not playing now smh

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Yes the NFL shares Revenue. — The NBA started sharing revenue 2 years ago, but they can’t really share evenly like the NFL though. There are too many NBA games, each team is on local TV deals in very very diverse markets. For example, the Lakers have a 3 Billion Dollar TV Deal for 20 years —- in contrast, the Nets brought in a reported $4 million in Local TV Revenue in 2004 (which is an old figure of course, but let’s assume that’s the baseline for smaller market teams like Minnesota/Oklahoma City/Milwuakee since they were in New Jersey). There is no way to really force the Lakers to share their money earned in their market with every other team in the NBA, it’s not like the NFL, where most teams get similar exposure, and have to sell out to even be aired on TV. So that’s where the big problem in team earning potential comes in, some teams just flat earn so much more than anyone else it wouldn’t be fair to their business to take such a huge portion away. Which in turn leads to the Lakers paying more for players, which =’s more in luxury taxes, which finally are redistributed to all of the teams under the tax threashold (said teams normally make up those “smaller market” teams)

    - aside from all of that, some revenue is shared, but no matter how evenly they share revenue, a player in a basketball jersey is always going to prefer those bigger market cities where their face will be shown on TV more often and where they can reach a more widespread audience. so it makes it pretty much impossible to force parity on the league, it’s not like you can convince the players association (which is the strongest in all of professional sports) to give up all of their rights to change teams and create a market for themselves.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    oh lol don’t worry

  • dumb person

    Ah that makes perfect sense. Thanks for taking the time.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    no problem. and that question does not make you a dumb person lol, it would be weird if you just knew the answer instinctually

  • Dfrance

    No way Douglas gets burn over Cole. The brought Douglas in because Chalmers is hurt right now. Soon as he’s 100%, they’ll fit Douglas for some pompoms.

  • AiRsMiTh

    Oh, I can’t believe it. Sad that Toney Douglas is gone, I hardly got to see him ball… I guess I will have to be consoled by the fact that we are in exchange receiving not one, but two young guards who both average more points than Douglas himself.

    By the way, Bob Myers is doing a great job for the Dubs!

  • davidR

    still no true backup pg tho

  • davidR

    true, but i’d feel safer if gstate had a true backup pg. having both ball handlers on the starting unit could get ugly if one goes down to injury, or come playoff time

  • i_ball

    True. I think this trade makes them A LOT better. Brooks is a good player too.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    they brought Douglas in because they saved $10 million by getting rid of Joel Anthony lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    this is what actually happened

    - Boston gained a draft pick, while also getting worse, likely improving their own pick, and also opening up playing time for Rajon Rondo without affecting everyone else.

    - Golden State grabbed 2 possible rotation players that make them better immediately. Douglas was not able to take over any ball handling responsibilities whatsoever, so Crawford can immediately plug that hole. — Marshon becomes that player that gets to come in for a couple minutes, heat check once or twice, and then play/sit after that depending how the heat checks go.

    - Miami just saved $10 million in luxury tax money while enabling themselves the ability to sign Bynum without having half their roster allocated to the Center position.

  • guest

    Dude start a blog. It seems lame but if you know your sh*t then you’ll get people reading it. Ezra Klein was just a blogger and now he’s one of the top writers for the Washington post. Do it nbk.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I appreciate the advice but I’m not confident enough in my writing abilities to do something like that.

  • The Philosopher

    You know you can do it…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Ehh I know it’s humanly possible but I don’t know if I can successfully tho

  • Koyaanisqatsi

    Brooks cannot play defence. He can score but it’s questionable at times if he understands he has teammates on the floor.

  • guest

    There are plenty of people who can write, not many that can think. You have editors for that sh*t.

  • http://triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Hey nbk I wanted to know your personal opinion on this idea/process of having the draft order predetemined…. have you a thought? Holla back. Dacre.

  • Tony Taylor

    I would so work with or for you bro I believe in you

  • It ain’t Ralph tho

    That was beautiful.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    You…not Ralph, are beautiful too

  • Tony Taylor

    Tony Douglas is basically a small fill in for the offensive firepower they lose when Wade rests, he will do what Roger Mason was supposed to do. Or they could readying up for another trade with this added cap space or a key signing.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I understand the concept, but it would give prospects more control over where they go. It also takes away the only avenue for a team in a small market to work out of a rut —- it’s not like we can just close our eyes and pretend every General Manager ever hired is going to be competent. (imo) it is prudent that there is a road to take for competent front offices to pick up the pieces of a sunken ship. Is what Danny Ainge has done in Boston bothering anyone?

    -

    I would rather they just flat out even the odds of the lottery. Or leave it as is, I mean it’s not that bad right now is it?

  • spit hot fiyah

    good recap. only problem for me, i don’t think crawford or brooks would be holding back rondo’s minutes. if that is even what u meant

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    My bad I don’t mean Rondo’s minutes as much as everyone else’s. Not that it really matters, just nobody is going to mope around because some of their minutes disappeared.

  • Drig

    Just do it. A post a week? Just try it out once and see how it goes.

  • COYNE

    Ainge For President.

  • spit hot fiyah

    gotcha

  • http://triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    I was of a similar opinion – the draft process as it stands doesn’t really create problems – we aren’t seeing ‘every team’ that gets the top 5 picks always having the best teams out there winning everything. If a team is consistently getting top choices in the draft year after year then obviously they aren’t actually winning with the said players chosen or even drafting the right guys…. for every team getting the lions share of top 10 picks there are teams with actual scouting ability finding the real treasures in late 1st rounders and the 2nd round even….

  • Mike From Spain

    get an editor. If English was my first language I would do it. Basketball blogs are not a literary showcase anyway.

  • Mike From Spain
  • http://signup.divinerenergy.com/ Anthony Dixon

    nah do it, long as people connect it doesn’t matter how you write.

  • Ernie D

    Boston got Crawford for Jason Collins, and traded him for another little used Center. Anthony could take some of the strain off of Sullinger and Humps, who have been forced to play out of position at Center, but I can’t see him getting more than 10 minutes at best. Olynyk and Faverani have been terrible as of late, as both have seemingly hit the rookie wall. It looks more likely that Boston will end up with 3 second round picks out of the deal, because I can;t see Philly making the playoffs this season or next.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    well i wrote a preview for Enigmatic’s blog a couple years ago, he can vouch for my writing skills being pretty sub par. Plus, if I did do a blog, I wouldn’t want to do a basic, “i say my opinion, everyone else reads it and that’s that” type of blog, I would like to do something where if I do write, that I can dialogue with the readers (if there are any) so that the commenters can actually contribute to the reading experience as more than a novelty. idk if that even makes sense, but i’ve been thinking about the blog thing for a while. As of now, just feels like something I will end up investing time into, only to have nobody read it.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    it would be hard to get people to connect to bad writing lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    know of any free editors, willing to tell the writer that what they wrote is complete sh*t? i am not willing to be sh*tty at something, i wouldn’t even publish a blog unless i actually thought the content within was worth reading. i’ve already made the opposite mistake in the past.

  • Mike From Spain

    well, I have been an editor before, and in this day and age, writers in general can’t write it is editors who keep things readable. I saw this at a professional level and I was baffled. You are an amateur who would do one or two weekly updates so the workload is not too intense. For me, it is not about telling the writer that he writes sh** , it is about re-writing what needs to be rewritten.
    Maybe you just don’t have the time or something, who knows. But I think that you could write things just as good or better than many paid beat writers.

  • Mike From Spain

    Disqus as comment system in your blog! the real meat could be in the comment section… just the good Slam regulars there, without newbie trolls, that’d be rad.

    When a reply/rant passes the mark, it could be ‘promoted’ to post.

    Or you could have an SB Nation type of deal, where people who sign up to your blog can contribute with links and little articles, and you would be able to moderate, comment or ask for edits before final publishing. It does not have to be a one man show.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    well i would still like the comments, but for example say i wrote an opinion piece about the things Kevin Love does that don’t help the team (just spitballing, you always remind me of Minnesota), and you came into the comments and had some really interesting points.
    .
    I wouldn’t want that to become just an aspect of the comments. I would like whatever you said to be included in the work, or to be included as its own follow up article. i feel like a lot of the truly informative and well thought out observations on the NBA happen in these comment sections. And it’s not like anyone outside of the SLAM community respects the comments, we have the same stigma as the youtube people who say all that racist nonsense.
    .
    #neverreadthecomments is a pretty widespread sentiment among sports writers.

  • guest

    That’s a cool idea to have a more interactive blog. And you already know you have like 20 people from here who will regularly read it, then add in the people who will check it out here and there, then add in all the people that they will share it with, add in the randoms who will end up reading it, and so on and so forth. It’s a heavily saturated market but talent can shine faster and brighter than ever before. Plus, even if nothing came from it it’d be fun. I write for that reason-it’s a good way to organize your thoughts and blow off steam and so forth. Anyways, just my two cents. Best to you nbk.

  • Mike From Spain

    Well, I think that most of the good old Slam regulars would not mind if you ask them to soup up an interesting comment for publishing as a follow up article. In fact, many would be delighted… Just as long as you give credit where credit is due, it’d work

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i really do appreciate the advice and encouragement “guest”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i would treat articles like that as conversation pieces. i would no take any credit from anyone, i think you guys know me pretty well, being the center of attention or taking credit from others isn’t something i even value. i just like discussing and thinking about basketball lol

  • Mike From Spain

    FWIW I have 11 ‘fanshots’ in Canis Hoopus… not big pieces but just published links with a little caption or comment. I am ‘emirvisir’ there, you can check my profile.

  • Lambert

    The best way to learn to write better is to read more (especially literature).

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i read a ton. it’s not that simple especially in shorter bursts to stay interesting

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    never heard of that, is it sort of like what Bleacher Report does, where they let the readers publish articles?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i would still need an editor who is a good writer, and is willing to sacrifice time for free to help out. i mean, i don’t really have much free time, but if it were the type of thing i could find enjoyment in doing, i could dedicate leisure time to putting out articles.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    thank you Tony, i wouldn’t know where to start, and i wouldn’t want to do it just for the sake of doing it. i would want it to be well thought out, and not boring. lol

  • Tony Taylor

    We could do it I got a writing/publishing company I want to get into the air.

  • Foxx ( Danmark Fax )

    Great for Golden State! They got two good players (M.Brooks & J.Crawford) in a backup position. Give them good minutes to play hard. Miami have a good chance to acquire Center A.Bynum Chris Andersen G.Oden, PF Chris Bosh M.Beasley, U.Haslem, SF L.James S.Battier, SG D.Wade R.Allen, PG M.Chalmers N.Cole – (Reserve T.Douglas, R.Lewis, R.Mason) Waive J.Jones!

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you started a writing/publishing company or you are going to start one?

  • Guest

    Hey I’m the guy who told you to start a blog. I was thinking about it and I would edit your blog for free as long as it wasn’t a daily thing. I just graduated with a double major-history and political science-and have my own writing aspirations. I am good with the English language and I could definitely help you out. Also, selfishly, it’d be good for me to keep training my mind to analyze writing and if you ever made something out of it I could put it on my resume.

    I don’t want to put my email or anything on here but just respond to this post if you’re interested. I’ll check it tomorrow.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    well i’m interested. but i really really don’t want to do just a run of the mill thing. i’ve been seriously considering this, and i’m thinking i want to run it as a website if i do it, where we can do different things then just post my thoughts up. i don’t particularly find my opinions that interesting, i’m at my best when i’m conversing with other people. so, in order to really make this work, i’m thinking i (we/whoever) will have to do this thing a bit differently.

  • guest

    Alright well my email is michaelpwebster@comcast.net and I just followed you on Twitter so get at me however is most convenient for you. This is kinda out of out of the blue, I realize, but I wouldn’t have offered up my services if I didn’t think this could be something real. I’m not sure if you just want me to help out with grammar and so forth or to also brainstorm ideas for this site or whatever so let me know what you have in mind.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i would not partner with you or anyone unless you were providing real assistance. i feel like everyone has something to offer, so just grammar/editing would be the least i would ask. to be honest.

  • guest

    Ok well I just saw that you said you’d need an editor. I’d help out however I could otherwise but I’m still not really sure what you’re looking for. In any case the offer stands. If not then the best of luck to you. I sincerely think it’s safe money to bet on you so I hope that you pursue it. Take care.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I will email you with a better summary of what I’m thinking. Really this is an idea as we speak, I prefer to be successful at whatever I pursue, so in essence I don’t want you or anyone to help and feel like they could be doing/adding more. I really appreciate the support and motivation, probably moreso than I can express here

  • guest

    I hear you man it’s the reason I haven’t started my own blog yet. I share your apprehension about being just another dude giving his opinions in a blog. Anyways I’ll take a look at your email and we’ll go from there. Enjoy your Tuesday and talk to you soon.

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