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Thursday, January 30th, 2014 at 9:00 am  |  105 responses

Post Up: White Hot

Durant and OKC set fire to South Beach

by Brett Weisband | @weisband

Thunder (37-10) 112, Heat (32-13) 95

After a sluggish first five minutes of the game that saw them fall behind by 18 points, Kevin Durant and the Thunder absolutely torched the Heat. Miami jumped out to a 22-4 lead, prompting OKC coach Scott Brooks to make some quick lineup changes, including pulling Kendrick Perkins after just five minutes. Perk didn’t come back into the game, and from the point they went down 18, the Thunder outscored Miami 108-73. Durant demolished everything in his path once again, scoring 33 on 12-23 shooting (his 12th straight game with 30 or more), along with seven rebounds and five assists. Guarding each other most of the night, Durant and LeBron James (34 points) engaged in the kind of duel toward the end of the third quarter that fans everywhere wanted to see, going shot-for-shot for several minutes, threatening to lay ruin to the arena as they landed blow after blow.  

The Heat had trouble with the Thunder’s length and athleticism on defense, as they were harassed into 20 turnovers and 3-19 shooting from deep. OKC beat the Heat at their own game, hitting 16-27 triples and holding onto the ball (12 TOs). The Thunder got major contributions from their improving bench; Jeremy Lamb rained in four 3-pointers on his way to 18 points, while Derek Fisher found the fountain of youth and hit 5-5 from deep, including two wild bankers. Serge Ibaka pitched in 22 points and eight boards for the Thunder, winners of nine straight. Good luck finding a way to slow this team down. 

(H/T @SBNation)

Raptors (24-21) 98, Magic (12-35) 83

Toronto raced out to a big lead early and never looked back in a blowout over Orlando. After trailing for the first two minutes of the game, the Raptors led the rest of the way. Kyle Lowry made one final case for his All-Star candidacy, going for 33 points (11-20 shooting) and 11 assists to lead Toronto. The Raptors hit their first nine 3-point attempts on their way to 14-31 shooting from deep on the night. Lowry keyed that as well, hitting 6-11 from long range. The Raptors’ front court pair complemented their hot outside shooting, as Amir Johnson had 22 points and 11 boards and Jonas Valanciunas had 14 and 15.

The Magic hit just 33.3 percent of their shots on the night, including a 6-19 performance on 3-pointers. In a bit of good news for Orlando, Nik Vucevic returned to the lineup 14 of 15 games with a concussion. He posted 16 points and 10 boards in 20 minutes.

76ers (15-31) 95, Celtics (15-33) 94

Evan Turner (16 points, six rebounds, eight assists) hit a twisting runner as time expired to give the Sixers a win in a game between two teams that seemed to have no interest in claiming victory. Boston missed five of their final six field goal attempts and two free throws after taking a 92-90 lead, while the Sixers missed five free throws in the final three minutes. Spencer Hawes scored 20 to lead Philadelphia, while Jared Sullinger had 24 points and 17 boards for Boston. Neither team shot better than 43 percent.

Suns (27-18) 126, Bucks (8-37) 117

Phoenix won a shootout with the normally offensively challenged Bucks, outgunning Milwaukee and withstanding three straight quarters of more than 30 points by the Bucks. Goran Dragic was a beast (or dragon) for the Suns, dropping 30 points and six assists, hitting 4-5 from deep and 9-13 overall in just 24 minutes despite dinging his elbow. He got support from Gerald Green, whose resurgent season continues. The reinvented high-flyer hit 4-6 of his 3-point attempts and scored 23 on 7-13 shooting. The Suns got some defensive contributions from rookie Alex Len, who used his long arms to forces some misses at the rim and to collect 10 boards.

Milwaukee, the league’s worst offensive team, had a poor shooting night (42.7 percent) despite their high output. They upped their efficiency by getting to the line 36 times, hitting 34 of them. Ersan Ilyasova (27 points) and Brandon Knight (24 points) combined to hit all 21 of their free throws for the Bucks.

Timberwolves (23-22) 88, Pelicans (19-26) 77

Minnesota finally crawled back over the .500 mark, winning an ugly contest at home against the Anthony Davis-less Pelicans. Kevin Love dominated to the tune of 30 points and 14 rebounds, carrying the load with Nikola Pekovic sidelined. The Timberwolves didn’t exactly earn this win, shooting just 40.2 percent and 4-20 from long range. The short-handed Pelicans were even worse, clanking their way to just 35.4 percent from the field and somehow performing even worse from deep at 9.5 percent (2-21). Eric Gordon scored just 14 for the Pellies on 5-17 shooting, while Al-Farouq Aminu led the squad in scoring with 18. For the T-Wolves, Kevin Martin had 18 on 7-18 shooting.

Rockets (31-17) 117, Mavericks (26-21) 115

Houston survived a furious run by the Mavericks in the final minutes to escape with a road win against their in-state rivals. Houston led 116-104 with 2:44 on the clock, but Vince Carter (22 points off the bench) and Devin Harris (14 points) both got fouled on 3-pointers, draining all six free throws. After a VC triple, Dirk Nowitzki airballed a 3-point shot that he appeared to get fouled on. Following two Dirk free throws, the Mavs forced a turnover on the inbounds to give themselves a chance. They got the switch they wanted, getting Jeremy Lin on Dirk. When the double came, Nowitzki found Jose Calderon for an open 3, but the veteran missed that one and subsequent try as the Mavs’ run fell short.

Dwight Howard had 21 points, including 9-11 shooting from the line. Chandler Parsons dropped 26 for the Rockets, who once again played without James Harden. Houston hit 9-21 triples on their way to 55.4 percent shooting and had seven players hit double figures in scoring, including all five starters. Nowitzki was an absolute monster for Dallas, going for 38 points and 17 boards in the loss. Dirk also netted his 26,000th career point, another milestone in his illustrious career. 

Bobcats (20-27) 101, Nuggets (22-22) 98

The Bobcats snuck out a tight win in Denver, outlasting the Nuggets in the final seconds. Al Jefferson carried the ‘Cats down the stretch, scoring 11 of his 35 points in the final quarter to go along with 11 boards and two blocks. Charlotte’s defense went back to being very stingy, holding the Nuggets to just 39 percent shooting, including 9-28 from deep. Neither team led by more than five points in the second half after two lopsided quarters to start the game off. Charlotte got 16 points apiece from Gerald Henderson and Ramon Sessions in support of Jefferson, but no other Bobcat hit double digits. Charlotte withstood a season-high 33 points from Randy Foye, who handed out seven assists as well. Evan Fournier scored 21 off the bench for the Nugs, who were without star point guard Ty Lawson.

Bulls (23-22) 96, Spurs (33-13) 86

The injury-riddled Spurs dropped their third straight game, falling to the Bulls in San Antonio. Jimmy Butler scored 19 for the Bulls, who used their defense to win this one, forcing the Spurs into 19 turnovers, five more than their average. Chicago got double doubles from Carlos Boozer (16 and 12) and Joakim Noah (10 and 10) and had seven players in total reach double figure scoring.

The Spurs were down four regulars after Manu Ginobili tweaked his hamstring earlier in the week. Tony Parker scored 20 in his absence and Tim Duncan had 17 points and 12 rebounds, but two of the Spurs’ starters (Othyus Jeffers and Jeff Ayres) went scoreless in a combined 31 minutes. San Antonio had lost three in a row for the first time all season.

Grizzlies (24-20) 99, Kings (15-30) 89

Memphis handled the Kings, using an efficient offensive performance and their customary slow-it-down pace to pick up a win in Sacramento. Mike Conley put up 27 points (8-13 shooting) and 10 assists, while Zach Randolph chipped in 18. The Grizz shot 54.7 as a team on the night. Set back by injury early in the season, the Grizzlies are starting to look like a team that no one will want to play come spring. They’ve been one of the hottest teams out West in 2014, going 11-3 in January.

The Kings were led by Isaiah Thomas’ 24 points, while Rudy Gay shot 10-16 on his way to 23 points against one of his former teams. The Kings got up about six fewer shots than usual despite hitting their average in turnovers, falling into Memphis’ grinding game plan.

Clippers (33-15) 110, Wizards (22-23) 103

The Clippers used a late spurt to get away from the Wizards after leading comfortably most of the game. Washington closed the gap to 100-99 with three minutes on the clock, but the Clips outscored them 10-4 the rest of the way to pick up the win. Blake Griffin had 29 points (12-20 shooting) and nine boards for L.A., leading five Clips in double figures. Jamal Crawford used a parade of free throws (11-12) to score 21 off the bench, while J.J. Redick hit three 3-pointers on his way to 20. DeAndre Jordan, not exactly an ace free throw shooter, hit four of them in the final stretch and finished with 14 points and 17 boards.

The Wizards’ young stars in the backcourt both had nice games; Brad Beal dropped 20 and John Wall went for 19 points and 11 assists as the two shot a combined 15-27, although neither of them hit a 3-pointer (both went 0-3 from deep). Washington shot 51.1 percent for the game, but couldn’t complete the comeback after being down 16 earlier in the game. They hit just 2-10 shots in the final minutes and dropped to 0-7 in games that would have put them over .500 this season.

Pistons at Hawks – Postponed

The game in Atlanta was postponed, to be made up at a later date, due to an ice storm that hit the Southeast earlier this week. 

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  • spit hot fiyah

    this happened last night, lets disregard the context

    http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3931087/parkerft_medium.gif

  • Stepfan Raiford

    After two years Scottie Brooks finally wised up, and finally stopped giving Kendrick Perkins minutes against the Heat. Thought last night was his best coaching job. The move to put Perry Jones on Bron was a great move. Bron was getting his shots but he exerted a ton of energy on the offensive end because PJIII made him work for everything. Lamb was also great off the bench, and the Derick Fisher factor.

    Let’s not give Miami any excuses. They came ready to play. Bron was locked in defensively trying to end their eight game winning streak, and KD’s consecutive 30 point game streak. Okc simply outplayed them. If your a Heat fan (no bandwagon) is it time to hit the panic button?

    The KD Lebron match-up in the third quarter was just so much fun to watch btw. Great game by OKC and company.

  • http://signup.divinerenergy.com/ Anthony Dixon

    Yea playing Perkins for 4 minutes was his best move ever lol.

  • Dagger

    Considering their stats this year and how important they are to their teams, Lowry and Nowitzki had better be selected as all-star reserves.

    It’s a jarring sight to see Lebron and the Heat look so vulnerable after dominating the league these past two years. Lebron outscored Durant, but it was Durant who had the more complete game. Obviously it’s usually Lebron on the other side of that equation. Then there’s the Thunder beating the Heat by playing small ball: what? It’s only January, granted, but I would be surprised if the Heat make it out of the Eastern Conference this year.

  • realistic 2014

    I think the panic meter is at a 15/10 right now for miami. All season people this that indiana was he worst matchup for miami but after watching last night Im starting to think okc is. Kd is every bit as good as lebron right now if not just a bit better due to his offensive capabilities okc has a much younger team and played the best defense on miami last night that I’ve seen all year. Make no mistake thise turnovers last night didn’t just happen okc length defensively completely disrupted Miami’s schemes. Another concern this happened WITHOUT Russel westbrook while dwyane wade did nothin but validate that durant was right about him. He honestly looks worse than ever right now. The heat imo will share the same fate as the 2011 lakers, thinking that they can turn on a switch that isn’t there due to aging role players who look about done( ray allen, haslem, and barrier) Last night was the first time that I saw lebron go 100% but durant just outplayed him which is something that usually doesnt happen. If I’m lebron I’m on the phone with carmelo right now because wade isn’t cutting it.

  • Stepfan Raiford

    Derozan is a lock but Lowry might get snubbed.

  • Saleem Rainman

    completely agree on lowry and dirk

  • Saleem Rainman

    Dirk Nowitzki still doing Dirk Nowitzki things at his age, its a joy to watch.

  • JJ Jones

    Miami needs more youth on its roster wade, allen, battier, and haslem all look done or close to it. Lebron needed to be more aggressive earlier and waited too late while s poelstra benches bosh yet again after he starts out with the hot hand. Lebron will not win a third title in miami this year they dont have the personnel run the type of defense that their trying to force.

  • Stepfan Raiford

    Ray Allen 30 plus minutes 1-4 shooting.

  • Harvey

    -Sefolosha is a tenacious defender; his effort is superb… now just work on that offense
    - Dirk is getting it done. All Star in my opinion.
    - The Raptors have surprised me to say the least. Well, kind of. That 3rd seed in the East could be theirs.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the Thunder hit 16-27 from three….Miami went 3-19. I wouldn’t read too much into a game that featured that stark a contrast in shooting from 2 teams that both shot uncharacteristically..

  • oai9b3ij

    I disagree on dirk being in the all star game, not that he doesn’t deserve it but who do you replace to put him in. If healthy Aldridge is a lock, cousins is the best offensive center in the league, Anthony davis is having the best season a second year player has had since LeBron. Dwight Howard is Dwight Howard, really I don’t see a spot for dirk this year. I know he’s still got a great faceup game and is averaging 20 points a game but so is davis, Aldridge, and cousins. All three are better players than dirk not to mention that Dwight howard is a better player than dirk. Maybe I’m wrong but I just don’t see how dirk gets in the game unless your going off the fact that he’s a future hof and put him in as a legacy type thing other than that I don’t see it.

  • JJ Jones

    No production at all not to mention his defense

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    LOL there isn’t anything to mention.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    when Chicago ran the table on Miami in the regular season, and the moment had people like this a couple months later …… http://media0.giphy.com/media/Vhk9HwPx3TO0w/giphy.gif

    don’t jump the gun making predictions about 4 or 5 months from now. It’s fools gold.

  • JJ Jones

    This here miami should be concerned okc is 21-4 with westbrook.

  • JJ Jones

    Westbrook didn’t play… this starting remind me a lot of the 2011 lakers

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    welp, don’t prove my point for me.

  • JJ Jones

    Lol

  • Dagger

    Sure, but you also have two wildcards. I agree that Davis, Aldridge and Howard should all be in the game, but that still leaves room for Dirk.

  • JJ Jones

    Im honestly starting to think that they won’t even make the eastern conference finals. This team isn’t coasting they just look old.

  • JJ Jones

    What do u mean?

  • pposse

    seriously the whole Thunder unit were on fire last night. I would be surprised if anyone of the squad had a below 50% shooting night

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Reggie Jackson and Thabo Sefolosha shot 1-3 each, Durant went 4-9…..and the only other player who missed was Jeremy Lamb and he went 4-6. Then Derek Fisher went a hilarious 5-5, and Perry Jones went 1-1.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i’d rather you figure it out on your own. it may take until June.

  • pposse

    lmao D Fish turned me into a Lebron fan last night

  • oai9b3ij

    What about cousins?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Mario Chalmers, Dwyane Wade, and Norris Cole combined for the same amount of turnovers as the entire Thunder team last night….

  • http://twitter.com/niQknacks niQ

    lol. It’s time to get rid of Perkins. And yes, please get Lowry in the ASG!

  • Dagger

    Cousins is awesome. His crazy high PER slightly beats Dirk’s (26 to 24), he scores a bit more, and he rebounds far better.

    But: the Sacramento Kings are 15-30 with a lot of talent, while the arguably less-talented Mavs are 26-21.

    Team records should not be the most important justification for all-star selections, but in this case Dirk is still the main reason for the relative success of the Mavs. Any time that team needs a backbreaking shot or a clever pass on the perimeter, Dirk is there.

    That’s the kind of value in winning that, to me, supports Dirk’s all-star candidacy over that of Cousins.

  • pposse

    i was kinda in and out of the game last night but Wade looked healthy must have missed the turnovers but he was lookin like he was regaining elite form. He shot pretty good from the field and did some things on defense that were commendable like challenging a Thunder big at the rim. You could also tell Lebron was fully engaged, he did not want to get embarrassed by KD at all and he willingly stepped up to guard him nearly every play down the court. If i were Lebron I would have crowded KD even more and forced him to take it to the rim and then instruct Birdman to lay the wood on him atleast once. That would have gotten KD off his game.

  • bike

    Congrats to KD for a great game and OKC for the win…but…
    It’s one game…in January…and it’s not like LeBron stunk up the place. Let the jury convene
    this spring

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Stop being a turd to JJ you elitist. How dare you speak rationally.

  • oai9b3ij

    Ok, I understand, me personally I love cousins low post game he’s one of the best finishers from the center position in the nba. He’s more patient now going into his moves and overall he’s just evolved into an incredible low post player. Sure dirk is winning but I feel like the all star game is there to showcase talent and no center has a better offensive game than cousins. I’m sure I’m just repeating what you already know so I guess we’ll agree to disagree but still ask me to choose between dirk and cousins for an all star game and I’m picking cousins every time.

  • The Seed

    KD finally showed some fire, and went at Lebron, KD needs to me not work out with Lebron and find another partner. I promise you all this, if KD wins a ring, it will be because of Westbrook, but people will find a reason to give Lebron credit for helping KD become who he is. KD people have to be smarter than this, stop working out with the Prince. He stole a ring from you, because you took it easy on him and Spurs choked a ring away. So he is lucky, but the Pacers and Nets have something for him. BOOK IT!!

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Lol lay the wood. Idk why that was funny but I agree on your take. Sometimes you might have to put a hat on a guy to send a message. KD seems like the type of guy to get taken out of his game a bit if he were to get laid out.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah i agree. Wade is sort of a snake at this point, he’s not going to really uncoil until he has to, i think it’s pretty clear he’s still an elite player. Not the same guy, but he’s still elite. He does, after this awful looking season, still lead all eastern conference guards in PER….which even if you don’t like the stat, should say something.
    .
    LeBron was definitely ready to go last night. It must have been exhausting guarding Durant the entire night while also being half of your teams true offensive weapons (Chris Bosh being the only other guy who looked able to create consistent offense last night). But then again, I also commend Scott Brooks for keeping Durant off of LeBron after that first quarter. The win is more important than whatever mano-a-mano war that LeBron was trying to wage.

  • pposse

    yeah im on the same boat with Brooks; in the beginning of the game they were going at it mano y mano but i think in the 2nd qtr onward Brooks switched up the gameplan. I really liked how at the exact moment KD subbed in the second qtr Bron jumped off the bench and subbed himself in too. It sucked for Lebron cause he had to contantly find KD in transition that has to be exhausting.
    Its just hard to give Brooks props, its hard to give any coach props that spends most of his time sitting down. the only time its acceptable is if he has a beard and his name is Phil Jackson and he whistles, other than that i like the coaches hootin and hollerin and trying to find a ref to yell something at

  • pposse

    i think with guys like KD who are just awesome shooters from anywhere you gotta crowd him, thats the only way let him live at the ft line atleast it will exhaust him a little driving to the bucket all day long.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Agreed. I’m not putting too much stock in this game though. I never put much stock in any of these big hype games especially with the Heat. I mean in 2011 they went 0-3 and 1-3 against the Bulls and Celtics and beat them both in 5 in the playoffs. So I enjoyed the game for what it was but I’m not worked up. Vice versa if Miami had won.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    ehh, depends how you think a coach should affect games. My criticism of Brooks has always revolved around his offensive system. I don’t care so much for how animated they are, Popovich doesn’t flip out but randomly, Phil Jackson just chuckled at nonsense a lot of the time, Pat Riley on the other hand never sat down ever, so i don’t really focus on that too much. I’m all about results and gameplanning.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk
  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    That was a huge mind f*ck

  • spit hot fiyah
  • LakeShow

    What are you trying to imply?

    The Heat didn’t want to win this game?
    They are just waiting to switch gears?

    Hate to break it to you, but the Heat wanted to win this game badly, and LeBron wanted to outplay KD, and neither happened.

    If you can’t see this Thunder squad plus Westbrook beating the Heat… You can’t read the writing on the wall.

  • LakeShow

    Shut up Seed.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    not implying, i’m saying that Miami losing a game they were trying to win on January 29th tells us nothing.
    .
    just like if Miami trounced OKC last night, it would have amounted to zero meaning in the long run.

  • LakeShow

    It tells us something.

    Not a whole lot. But something.

    This Thunder squad showing the ability to go small and out do MIA at their own game is “something.” Of course this doesn’t mean that the Heat’s reign is officially over. What it means is teams are catching on, and catching up.

    You do realize that the three-peat is incredibly difficult. So you should realize that this is writing on the wall. It doesn’t mean it’s over, it just means that that things do need to change for MIA.

    Just think about how much better OKC is with Westbrook too.

    So even if the Heat do improve significantly, so will the Thunder.

    This is interesting.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the Thunder just hit more 3′s then they have ever hit while being called the Thunder. Them doing that tells us they had a great game. Not that they are better at small ball than Miami, who coincidentally had an awful game shooting. The small ball thing worked for Oklahoma City for 2 very simple reasons, they shot the ball better, and they took better care of the ball. 2 things that typically don’t happen to Miami, especially in the playoffs. So no, this one game told us nothing.
    .
    “You do realize that the three-peat is incredibly difficult. So you should realize that this is writing on the wall. It doesn’t mean it’s over, it just means that that things do need to change for MIA”
    — the fact that three-peats are incredibly difficult was true before last night. and the fact that Miami is not performing at a peak level, for the FOURTH JANUARY IN A ROW, also….teaches us nothing new.
    .
    Oklahoma City has already proven to be much better with Westbrook, and lately have proven to be very dangerous without him. Again, last night didn’t change that.
    .
    All the writing that was on the walls before last nights game, is the same exact writing that is on the walls right now.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    LOL he had that look on his face like “here mf now get up out my face”

  • Dfrance

    I need the context!!!

  • JJ Jones

    At the very least it tells us that miami cant just flip the switch like they could in the past. They wanted to win this game they were entirely too slow defensively to do anything about it. This isn’t a one time thing this is a consistent ongoing problem that wasnt a problem for them in recent years

  • JJ Jones

    Every team seems to hit threes against miami though. I dont think it was just because they got hot but because of miamis poor perimeter defense

  • LakeShow

    This isn’t a “January funk” dude.

    EVERYONE is having a down season on the Heat. Besides Michael Beasley…

    This isn’t their normal look at any point in the season. You know this.

    “All the writing that was on the walls before last nights game, is the same exact writing that is on the walls right now.”

    I beg to differ.

    OKC gained huge confidence also. Which cannot be understated.

  • JJ Jones

    Exactly the excuses are old something is wrong with this team. Just look at l ebrons body language at the end of the game. They wanted that win and couldnt do anything about it due to their porous defense. There’s a reason why teams dont make it to 4 straight finals and were seeing the beginning of it

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    It was a combination of both. A lot of threes, and the most threes you’ve hit since Ray Allen was a supersonic are different. You don’t hit that many shots at that high a percentage just because the team you are playing played awful defense. I mean you watched the game right? You saw what Derek Fisher was doing or nah? How about quick trigger Jeremy Lamb, those were due to bad defense?

  • spit hot fiyah

    lmao, the guy next to him too, like: hey man d-fish is right here here with his hand man

  • spit hot fiyah

    alright, i didn’t see the game but i read that the ref blew the whistle to stop him from shooting when he was in the middle of his motion.

    those two guys on the bulls bench that react are pure gold

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I didn’t call it a funk.

    .

    I am not counting any eggs, if Oklahoma City loses to San Antonio or the Clippers, how is this game going to matter? There is simply too much time between now and May for me to ever believe one game is going to serve significant 4 months later.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tray-8 T-Ray

    Lol epic fail

  • LakeShow

    You’re absolutely right here.

    They were insanely hot(two Fisher banked three’s), but common man. Give some damn credit.

    No Westbrook, Lamb is getting better by the day, and now insanely more confident. Reggie Jackson can only get more consistent. Perry Jones is on the scene.

    And you HAVE to give a ton of credit to OKC’s defense. Those TO’s weren’t because the Heat weren’t on their game, the Thunder caused those most the time.

  • LakeShow

    That coach just seems like a dick.

    The Fisher of men just resurrected from the grave to nail some daggers.

    Give some skin old man!

  • LakeShow

    Thabo’s defense is so hit and miss, but I suppose that is because he is guarding the best player on the court every time.

  • Max

    Who’s gonna beat them if not the Pacers?

  • Max

    The Mavs are not less talented than the Kings..
    Maybe if the Kings played some defense.

  • LakeShow

    No one.

    Pacers are it. Unless KG and Pierce take a drink of the fountain of youth.

    So, yeah, no one.

  • Max

    Unless the whole Nets team drinks from the fountain of youth*
    Terry, Andrei, DWill included!

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  • JJ Jones

    Brooklyn would be my next choice they’ve given the heat problems all year and have been on roll this month. Before u say I’m crazy think about this things that are expected to happen never quite turn out that way. Remember the mavs sweeping the lakers in 2011 NOBODY saw it coming.

  • LakeShow

    The Mav’s had a prime superstar.

    The Net’s do not.

  • JJ Jones

    Derek fisher tends to hit those shots in big games agree I agree about lamb though

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    He tends to bank in 26 footers with 14 seconds on the shot clock? Ok, how is life on the other side of the looking glass? Having some good ass tea over there huh?

  • LakeShow

    You have to admit, he kinda does.

    Having watched Fish for my whole life practically, that is kinda his specialty lol.

    It’s not something you rely on, obviously, but they also weren’t all that surprising considering the source.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    5-5 is surprising when the quality of shots are that poor. 5-5 is surprising even when they aren’t. Derek Fisher at 38 does not hit 5 threes often.

  • JJ Jones

    Regardless my point is that things sometimes just happen unexpectedly(wizards blowing out heat) Last years playoffs were suppose to be easy for miami instead indiana who hadn’t even won 50 games at the time pushed them to the limit.

  • davidR

    fisher shouldve gone on a sherman like rant about how dude didnt wanna shake his hand

  • LakeShow

    You’re talking like a 1% chance man.

    Sure it could happen…

  • davidR

    i mean its possible, but its unlikely. the mavs were on fire the entire series

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I am not taking any credit away from anything. Oklahoma City stomped a hole into Miami last night. That does not however have anything to do with the playoffs. Just like when Miami lost 103-87 in 2011-12 to Oklahoma City. It made no impact on the playoffs.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201203250OKC.html

    .(sorry i got pulled outta the office in the middle of this comment, and am on my way out again.)

  • X

    The Heat’s record this time last year was worse than it is right now. Look it up.

  • LakeShow

    How was the East overall then? Now?

    Yeah…

  • LakeShow

    You don’t think you are taking away from them, but you are.

    OKC didn’t set that three point shooting record by luck, they all played as hard as they could, and were focused and are maturing and getting better by the day. Each of them: Durant, Lamb, Reggie, Serge, Adams(whom didn’t play), Jones.

    They are poised to challenge ANY team.

    The only thing that was really “flukey” in the game was Fishers two bankers. Which obviously were not game deciders. Being down 24-4 in the 1st and then create a 20 point gap(? right) in the 3rd is highly impressive against the back to back champions in their house. All this with/o RW…

    The fact that we are trying to make is that MIA needs to improve to beat this team in the Finals, should they meet.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Ofcourse Miami needs to improve on how they are playing at this point in the season. That’s been true for 4 straight years. From my perspective, OKC has been a threat to win the title this whole entire time. This game doesn’t make them favorites. This game changes nothing.

  • LakeShow

    I like how you put two sentences on the end that no one on here is arguing whatsoever.

    “This game doesn’t make them favorites. This game changes nothing.”

    Oh really? Wow, I totally thought that this 1 game meant they were going to win the Finals without a doubt…

    I didn’t expect you to see anything special in last night.
    Reason being, is that you think Durant is just “shooting more” right now. When I clearly see he is on a whole different level than before. You are the type that waits until it’s clear before forming an opinion, that’s fine. You can wait till you officially see the walls start to crumble, but I see the cracks in the foundation, and that’s enough for me to be alarmed.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Not what I said….again.

  • Max

    Actually I kinda liked Brooklyn matching up with the Heat, but without Lopez their biggest strenght may be gone.
    And the Heat will still be a very good team in the playoffs.
    But yeah out ouf anyone excepth Indy They will be the toughest.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Two sentences that directly reflects the comment that started you and that other dudes overreacting to what I said has nothing to do with anything that is being “argued” by anyone? My point has not changed one iota since the start of this conversation..

  • JJ Jones

    I agree but like I said besides indy who in the east could potentially give the heat the most problems I mean despite their troubles they can still possibly end up as the 3rd seed if they continue to win like they are.

  • JJ Jones

    It should be a federal crime that this man might not make the all star team.

  • JJ Jones

    Hey it took a 1% turn of events for ray allen to save the heat in game 6 so who knows?

  • LakeShow

    So you think the Net’s could play up to the Pacers ability last season in the playoffs this season?

  • LakeShow

    I’m sure you’re point hasn’t changed. Neither has mine.

    The Heat are in decline.

    The Thunder and Indy are on the rise.

    Those are facts in my world. That’s fine that you think that they will be able to turn it on in the 2nd half. I think it’s looking more bleak by the moment.

  • JJ Jones

    My thoughts exactly most people wait until something actually happens to believe it but like I said before this isn’just an aberration . Kd is 25 hes hitting his prime this isn’t just some random hot streak hes simply better than ever and as for the heat they have an old roster whose defense continues to get worse. Then finally dwyane wade was suppose to be healthy this season instead it looks as though that’s just a fantasy now he could barely get off the floor last night when he cranked that 3. At this time last year he was balling. His he suppose to magically heal in the playoffs this year? The end of miamis tenure is near and not just because of this game they’ve had a relatively easy schedule so far and lookfatigued regardless.

  • X

    You can keep looking for justification for your overreaction/wishful thinking all u want. Besides Chicago the East was still pretty crummy. Facts are facts. It’s still January and their record still isn’t panic worthy.

  • LakeShow

    Mutual. Well said.

  • LakeShow

    Wait, you think the East last season was similar to this season??

    Oh kay… We just don’ t see things the same way I suppose….

  • JJ Jones

    Possibly I mean for whatever reason every time they’ve played this year they seem to get into miamis head mentally. Idk what it is exactly but for some reason they just seem to give miami problems possibly just a bad matchup

  • JJ Jones

    So u expect another 27 game win streak the heat have had a weak schedule up to this point and now have to face the difficult part for this second half of the season.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I never said the Heat weren’t in decline. I never said the Thunder or Pacers aren’t improving. But awesome, keep creating a side for me to stand on so that your argument doesn’t seem like a big waste of time. The Heat, the team you, one week ago, called the most talented team ever, is not playing at their peak level. They might not be as good as last season (in fact I think their roster got worse) but that still doesn’t mean what you see in january is what you’ll get in May. Why that is a hard thing to admit or grasp or whatever … idk

  • JJ Jones

    Do u really think wade’s knee will get any better by may because that’s what their season hinges on right now. Despite what everyone would have to believe the heat always seem to play BELOW Expectations in the playoffsbut this is overlooked because they won two titles. Ironically the only year they “turned it up” was the year they lost in 2011just dominating the eastern conference. In 2012 they trailed damn near every series they were in and probably should have been eliminated by a weak boston team in 5 games (shady calls in game 2) . Last year everyone thiught the eastern conference would be a cakewalk and yet the pacers weren’t even a 50 win team yet pushed miami to the brink with frank Vogel mistake in game 1 costing them the series. Ray Allen’s 3 in self explanatory so no I don’t see a team who turns it up in the playoffs but a team that has had a sh*load of lucky breaks to cover up their worsening deficiencies. If that ray allen 3 rims out would miami still be considered the favorites I highly doubt it.

  • X

    I expect the Heat to again not finish number one in their weak conference. They haven’t done it since Lebron and Bosh signed. 27 game win streak or not, their only threat come playoff time is the Pacers. LOL at the Nets or any other East team besides Indy being a legit obstacle. You guys are so thirsty for doom and gloom in January. Not even All Star break. January. Yep. I’ll stick to being rational. I like the idea of keeping things in perspective a lot better than January MVPs and January playoff upset predictions.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I don’t think Miami’s title chances rely on Wades knee as much as everyone else. I also don’t like the odds of any teams title hopes. If I had to bet, I’d go with Miami. But I’m hardly convinced they will win. And Man I’m never going to belittle any teams accomplishments, so don’t try and rationalize your argument to me using that as your theme. It doesn’t help.

  • JJ Jones

    So u think that can beat indy with gimpy wade this time? And I wasnt trying g to discredit what they’ve accomplished, just that they needed to make moves to improve the roster but didn’t just because they win the title despite for all intents and purposes being outplayed and outcoached for most of last years playoffs.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Eh, Indiana has exploitable weak points, it’s possible. If Wade can’t really go I sure wouldn’t say the Heat should be favored or anything like that, but I would still give Miami a punchers chance…..since they have the best puncher in the series, and a significant speed advantage overall. .
    I agree that they needed to improve the roster and didn’t. I said as much going into the season, but the changes made don’t (imo) hurt them enough to make take them out of being the favorite. And there are some people who think they did improve, whose to say they are definitely wrong? It’s not like the season ends, and they just get to play Indiana to see who wins. All things considered, Miami has the most likely road to a title from my perspective. If I’m wrong I’ll admit it, but you aren’t going to talk me out of my opinion.

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