Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 am  |  212 responses

Heavy is the Crown for King James

We’re all witnesses… to the first chink in the King’s armor.

by Adam Sweeney

For the past year, things have been golden for LeBron James. But after the Cleveland Cavaliers’ unceremonious departure from the NBA Playoffs was followed by James walking out without congratulating the opposing Orlando Magic, speaking to the media  or staying to talk to his teammates, it appears that for the first time in his NBA career a bit of the shine has worn off the King’s crown.

The moment would normally be dismissed if not for the fact that James is widely known as one of the most accessible and down to Earth players in the game. In his defeat weLeBron James weren’t witnesses to any of that. We were instead treated to a rare instance in which James was human.

“It’s hard for me to congratulate somebody after you just lose to them. I’m a winner. It’s not being a poor sport or anything like that. If somebody beats you up, you’re not going to congratulate them. That doesn’t make sense to me. I’m a competitor. That’s what I do. It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.”

That was how James inexplicably tried to justify his bad attitude to the media the day after the Game 6 loss when a simple, “I was disappointed in losing. I should have congratulated the Magic and my teammates for a great season. Even Nike LeBron puppet knows that,” would have gone a long way toward saving face. And wearing an all-white Yankees hat while he did it? Very nice touch. But at least he sent Dwight Howard a congratulatory email, because that makes everything better. Doesn’t he know Superman is a Twitter fan?

James may be on his way to claiming the title of best player since His Airness, but he has a lot to learn when it comes to the unwritten rules of the game, namely that you always congratulate your opponent whether you win or lose. They teach you that at YMCA camps. In one fell swoop, LeBron gave an excuse for other ballers to punk out after a game. Somewhere a high school player that can jump out of the gym is saying, “If The Chosen One won’t give a hand pound, why should I?” And don’t come at me with the Charles Barkley “Athletes aren’t role models” arguments. When you watch the Denver Nuggets play and look in the seats to see children with fauxhawks and imitation tattoos on their arms in honor of Chris Andersen, the look and attitude of these players absolutLeBron Jamesely has influence on those that admire them.

That’s something James forgot this weekend. He represents more than just himself. Everything is being set in place for LeBron to be the face of this franchise and the NBA. That face can’t only appear when the Sun is out. Anybody can do campy choreographed stunts with teammates when you’re running through the League in the regular season, but how you respond in the face of adversity is when you truly show your character. The future $1 billion face of the Association can’t afford to use up his social currency with fans or teammates. Don’t be surprised if David Stern politely reminds him of this with a phone call.

And they won’t admit it, but there is no doubt that James’ act of silence hurt his teammates. Of course they won’t crack on the man who almost carried them to the NBA Finals. It’s understood that you don’t bite the hand that feeds you the rock. But you win and lose as a team, and not staying after the Game 6 loss only added to the pain that the team was feeling after such a stunning defeat. It also may have tainted the chemistry that was built in a season that is to be remembered, all things considered. If you are claiming to be the franchise player and team leader, you do not turn your back and let Boobie Gibson have to take the podium to answer questions about the end of your team’s season. Yes there are some people that will say, “Well his teammates should be under the magnifying glass. They’re the cats who let him down in the biggest series of the season, not vice versa.” It doesn’t work that way. If Kobe loses in the NBA Finals, he can’t put his headphones on, pat Adam Morrison on the back and say, “You step up and field these questions, Big Moustache.”

To top it all off, the Orlando Magic deserved better for their accomplishment. They exposed the Cavs for what they were and showed the world they were the superior team. Kobe did the same thing to the Denver Nuggets and Carmelo Anthony, who has been ripped before for his lack of leadership, shined by sharing congratulatory words and a hug with Bryant after the game. Even if Anthony never wins a ring, he showed how a true winner behaves in defeat.

Maybe LeBron should go watch some ESPN Instant Classic videos of the games between the Detroit Pistons and L.A. Lakers. Isiah Thomas and Magic Johnson always made sure to keep it cool with each other, even if they probably wanted to kill one another when the ball was in the air. On second thought, maybe we don’t need to go as far as those two did in pre-game salutes. Kisses aren’t necessary, but LeBron could have at least given the Magic players a handshake for their worthy accomplishment.

Isiah’s actually seen both ends of the sportsman’s spectrum and could tell you that it’s a bad idea to walk away without congratulating the victor. He learned that the hard wayLeBron James after pulling the “I’m taking my ball and going home” move when the Chicago Bulls swept Detroit in the Eastern Conference Finals. It should go without saying it but I will anyway. LeBron, you do not want your name in the same sentence as Zeke.

James can’t be so naive to act like he’s above the rules of sportsmanship. No great player before him has gone their career without a heartbreaking defeat. Jordan had them against the Pistons and Celtics. Kobe did as well against the same organizations in the NBA Finals and both players had enough respect for others to swallow their pride and accept their defeat with class. If hockey players can shake hands after literally throwing down their gloves and pounding each other in a game, you can be cool enough to be a good sport on the hardwood.

Don’t get the misconception that I’m asking for James to step down from his throne. All he needs to do is like Kanye said, occasionally bow in the presence of greatness, which is exactly what anyone on Orlando would have done if they had lost to Cleveland. There’s hardly anything to dislike about LeBron James. He loves and respects the history of the NBA. His game will carry him to the Hall of Fame and he will have plenty of banners to hang in the rafters, whether it’s in Cleveland or New York. In his play and through his charity work, he has proven to be as selfless a person as there is in the game. But he’s no Superman. The caped one will be playing in the NBA Finals Thursday against L.A. That isn’t what matters though. What does is that no matter how he tries to spin it, LeBron will never truly be a winner until he learns how to lose.

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  • stryfee Posted: Jun.2 at 10:17 am
    first!

  • Ryne Nelson Posted: Jun.2 at 10:21 am
    “The future $1 billion face of the Association can’t afford to use up his social currency with fans or teammates.” Adam — beautifully said.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 10:22 am
    I just keep trying to imagine Gloria spanking him.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 10:27 am
    Anyone that thinks Lebron’s golden image is going to be affected by this to 99% of the general NBA viewing population is terribly mistaken. And is what he did worse or better than actually quitting on your team in a elimination game? Curious to hear how that plays among all of the esteemed opinions.

  • Mo Charlo Posted: Jun.2 at 10:29 am
    That’s weird, Myles.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 10:29 am
    He DID quit.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 10:32 am
    LeBron disrespected the media and for that he was wrong. The handshake happened with Dwight with 40 seconds to go as he wrapped him up. I really think the media guys are more heated about him not going to the podium then not shaking hands with Orlando. It was not the right thing to do but this story won’t have any legs as soon as the Finals start. There’s no bad blood there so it’s no Zeke/MJ situation. You’ll see Dwight and Bron laughing it up for Team USA.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 10:34 am
    Quit? Quit what? The conference room is part of the game now? Contrary to popular reports, he did speak to his teammates after the game, he ditched the media. So if you want to say that he quit on the press, okay then. / Quitting is refusing to shoot in the 2nd half of a game 7, Myles.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 10:36 am
    Kind of the answer I expected.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 10:40 am
    Is this in the same “carrer suicide-type” move that other’s in the league have been involved in, especially those who have been accused of felonies (ra*e, drug charges, animal abuse) or even other less criminal things like not paying child support or infidelity? Anyone?

  • AR Posted: Jun.2 at 10:40 am
    Is anyone actually mad at him for skipping out on the media?He is there to play basketball,the only obligation he has is to his team.Would it have been nice if he showed a bit of sportsmanship(he’s not a kid,btw,please stop using that excuse) and handled things more maturely>Yes,of course.But f*ck the media.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 10:43 am
    He took 8 shots in the second half. Five of them came in the third quarter. Four or five of those shots were threes. The last shot he took before a dunk with thirty seconds left that Im not even counting came with 4 minutes left in the game. He only made two shots in the second half and was content passing the ball. Look, I honor everything Bron achieved in the five games prior. But when I see the same man who averaged 38/8/8 in the series stop shooting a game after he completely dominated the game and scored or assisted on 32 CONSECUTIVE POINTS then Im well within the boundaries of reason to infer that he stopped trying. Delonte was the only one going hard in the second half.

  • vadim Posted: Jun.2 at 10:44 am
    i think he should be kicked out of usa national team

  • Ken Posted: Jun.2 at 10:50 am
    “It’s not being a poor sport or anything like that.”
    Uh…isn’t that like, the definition of being a poor sport? The only thing worse than walking off court and not shaking hands is not being able to admit it was a mistake. I think LeBron’s statement to the media the next day revealed a lot more about his character than his initial action walking off the court. Disappointing.

  • Bigi Posted: Jun.2 at 10:51 am
    And that is NOT all white Yankees cap…It’s grey…

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Jun.2 at 10:52 am
    As for everyone forgetting about it as soon as the Finals start, HA! Tell that to Isiah Thomas, who STILL hears it about ’91. That’s part of Zeke’s legacy, whether he likes it or not, just as this will be part of LeBron’s.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 10:53 am
    Wow.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 10:53 am
    i watched every game of that series and at no point did it ever cross my mind that lebron quit. could be just me though. you’re also the first media guy to bring it up. and i’ve read all the online recaps of every major sport website. i’m not even sure if you believe your own argument. i’ve learned to take everything you say about bron with a shaker of salt, myles.

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  • stokesey Posted: Jun.2 at 10:56 am
    ^^ i have to agree… im not hating but i was surprised he took so much of a back seat in the second half, especially considering how much he had dominated the rest of the series, like what was said above^^ the shots he did take were 3 balls…

  • Tarzan Cooper Posted: Jun.2 at 10:56 am
    blah blah blah blah blah

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 10:56 am
    Who’s not going to forget this? Cynical writers and blog commenters in their 20′s and 30′s, like most of us here, who want to see a dude so teflon take a shot to his unbruised pride/ego/undefined legacy? You’re kidding right? You think the millions (yes millions) of kids (you know, like we used to be) are going to give too sh*ts about this once next season starts and Lebron is doing his thing again. Seriously? For real?

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 10:56 am
    russ, do you remember magic johnson the team cancer that was booed in the forum for getting coaches fired? me neither. zeke has a HISTORY of being an a– and a lot of his peers despised him. for all i know, i don’t knwo of one nba player that has a grudge against bron except deshawn stevenson. let’s all take a deep breath and chill on the zeke comparisons.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 10:57 am
    I watched every game too and Im just sayin that in Game 5 it was obvious to anyone with a pulse that LeBron James refused to lose. Game 6? Not so much.

  • Freedom Fries Posted: Jun.2 at 10:58 am
    PUT DOWN THE PIPE

  • Freedom Fries Posted: Jun.2 at 10:58 am
    PUT IT DOWN

  • Freedom Fries Posted: Jun.2 at 10:59 am
    CRACK IS BAD FOR YOU

  • MooButter Posted: Jun.2 at 11:00 am
    I can’t believe this is getting as much coverage as it is. Lebron has been a model NBA player as far as image, sportsmanship, community involvement, etc., etc., etc. He has kept his hands so clean that things like this have to be blown up because the media has no other dirt on him. Stop comparing his sportsmanship to guys like Kobe (who cheated on his wife/possibly r@ped a girl) and Melo (who has a laundry list of unsportsmanlike behaviour). The guy is a competitor and was upset with the loss. Get over it. So sorry the media didn’t get a chance to grill him about NYC or goad him into throwing his teammates under the bus during a time a vulnerability. This is ridiculous. It’s not little league. You don’t have to shake hands and everyone doesn’t go out for pizza together after the game.

  • Mansonovic Posted: Jun.2 at 11:01 am
    There speaks the voice of reason. Thank you, MooButter.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 11:02 am
    he refused to lose in game 1. he refused to lose in game 2. he refused to lose in game 3. he refused to lose in game 4. he refused to lose in game 5. he refused to lose in game 6. the magic didn’t cooperate in games 1,3,4 and 6. you’re looking for something that’s not there.

  • AR Posted: Jun.2 at 11:03 am
    So LeBron can’t be criticized now?LeBron did something stupid and the logic he used was worse.This doesn’t make him a pariah,but it will be remembered,because it should be.It’s called balance,something the media and certain commenters seem to ignore completely.Just because one extreme is wrong doesn’t mean the other is right.He did something ill-advised and he’ll have to live with it.But you know what’s going to be remembered more than this incident?The fact that he won the MVP this year.Still though,his indiscretions shouldn’t be ignored because he’s LeBron.

  • Freedom Fries Posted: Jun.2 at 11:03 am
    Go back and watch the south park britney episode – the media (and we vicariously thru them) have a sick sick NEED to build up these poor humans more and more on these impossible pedestals with lofty heights, with the singular goal being to tear them down from their apex and crush them in the dust. We (via the media) over time RESENT how much we’ve grown to care for them – we actually are deluded enough to think that they are some kind of godlike extension of our own (missed) potential and we RELISH in seeing them go down in flames. There will always be more people present to stone / guillotine a celebrity when they fall rather than when they go out and do charitable works. Your visceral reaction to Bron says WAY more about you than it does him. Think the fluck about it for a sec.

  • Adam Sweeney Posted: Jun.2 at 11:04 am
    I actually am not as concerned with him skipping out on the media (And if you want to say screw us, that is within anyone’s right to do so.) as I am with the fact that he left his teammates alone to face the criticism after the game. And please don’t try to tell me that he congratulated Orlando during the game. If he had extended the olive branch then why did he give the foolish response of, “It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand?” Simple. Because he didn’t. LeBron is too good of a player and person to behave the way he did.

  • Mansonovic Posted: Jun.2 at 11:05 am
    No, his indiscretions shouldn’t be ignored, AR. But should they be magnified to such ridiculous degrees? Too many people ready to rip him for something they’ve probably all felt like doing at one point. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

  • Freedom Fries Posted: Jun.2 at 11:06 am
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  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 11:19 am
    Perhaps the fact that he has had such a squeaky clean image up until this point makes this so hard to believe. He has been a great sport and a model citizen, and he’s one of the most famous people on the planet, so although this isn’t the end of the world, it’s a fairly significant miscue.

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 11:22 am
    @ Mansonovic – I doubt anyone would tell you that they haven’t FELT like doing that before, and that’s not what is in question. It doesn’t matter what you FEEL like doing for many things in life, it’s what you actually do or don’t do. He made an error by not manning up and showing respect to the other team and his teammates. I can agree that this isn’t monumental issue, but it is an issue. Anyone who completely discounts this and makes MORE excuses for it needs to check themselves.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 11:26 am
    It’s a slight issue. Anyone making it out to be more than that needs to check themselves.

  • Mansonovic Posted: Jun.2 at 11:27 am
    I’m making no excuses for him at all? Should he have shook the hand? Sure. Is it the worst possible thing he could ever do? Ask Melo and Ron-Ron. My problem with the amount of people practically gloating over the “fall of the King” because of one incident. I said it yesterday, and I’ll say it again. I despair of human nature sometimes, because this is not a life or death situation, but the amount of column inches being afforded to it is completely disproportionate to what actually happened. Too many people practically creaming themselves over this with no good reason to.

  • snyper48 Posted: Jun.2 at 11:27 am
    @ Eboy: Are talking about Kobe? When are you guys going to quit? I mean, the way Kobe got hated on is not deserved at all, I could list a ton of things that MJ did, but he always got the pass. Kobe made a mistake in Colorado and people dont let it go. How Magic got HIV, by sitting in his house reading poetry? Please, let Kobe go.It’s about Lebron here anyway, sorry Mr. Earvin.

  • Mansonovic Posted: Jun.2 at 11:29 am
    Please tell me you’re not comparing what Kobe allegedly did with what LeBron did.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 11:31 am
    I follow the lead of the people that work for this magazine in paid gig form.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 11:33 am
    Several superstars in the L have actually PUNCHED someone on the court and we’re here talking about shaking heads after a loss? I’d be willing to bet that only Myles will remember this story in 5 years.

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 11:34 am
    When you’re the center of media attention and the face of an entire sports league, you have to expect childish actions to be blown out of proportion. He wanted to coreograph pre-game dances and take pictures all season, all while expecting everyone to respect him while he won. Now he’s taking a hard dose of well deserved reality. I agree that it’s getting blown out of proportion, but to just give him a pass because he’s sad about losing is just as rediculous.

  • Scruffz Posted: Jun.2 at 11:34 am
    Great article until i read: “His game will carry him to the Hall of Fame and he will have plenty of banners to hang in the rafters, whether it’s in Cleveland or New York.” Let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves here. Great players aren’t guaranteed rings. If that was the case then Stockton and Malone wouldn’t have that blemish on their resume.

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 11:35 am
    Yeah co-sign Z…LeBron didn’t shake people’s hands….Kobe is a r@pist…I really see no parallel here.

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 11:36 am
    Oops, I mean Mansonovic…my bad.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 11:36 am
    And actually, no I wasnt’ just trying to point out Kobe’s blatant faults as a human only as a player. We all know the dude’s a waste of humanity as a man, but as a basketball player, which if you listen to his supporters (especially here), should only be judged by those accomplishments to be fair to the guy. Fine. Then do the same to Lebron. Again, I don’t care if they both got lost at sea and were never heard from again as my guy D-Wade would take over best player in the league mantle, but what Lebron did has no bearing on being a good teammate or someone you would want to lay with. Does is make him a poor sport for this one game? Sure. Besides that? Any other time it can be pointed out that he’s displayed this poor sportsmanlike behavior? You can’t find one or point one out, so…..

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 11:36 am
    I dont think people are gloating over the fall of the King as much as they are using this incident to acknowledge that the incessant fawning hes received since high school has gone to his head and hes failed to learn or doesnt care to adhere to basic principles like sportsmanship. For someone with such extensive media training who always knows the right thing to say in practically any given situation to say something like that indicates that he knows exactly how it sounds and he doesnt care. Ive said time and again that every elite athlete has their moment of truth or their trial by fire. Michael, Magic and Kobe all suffered humiliating blows in front of the entire world and it was how they handled those situations that were testaments to their character or lack thereof. So yes, this is small by comparison and thats exactly the point. If he cant handle this appropriately then how will he deal when trouble inevitably comes his way as it did for his predecessors?

  • Mansonovic Posted: Jun.2 at 11:36 am
    So, happy when winning, sad when losing? You’re right…what an evil b*****d he truly is. I’ve been wrong about this whole thing. You win 66 games in an NBA season and tell me you wouldn’t be dancing. At least it was dancing and not barking in opponent’s faces like KG.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 11:37 am
    lay=play (unless your name is Ryan Jones)

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 11:38 am
    And as I said yesterday, he did the same thing in Boston last year. Walked right into the tunnel. So theres your other incident. You think he just started thinking this way this year? Or it just got noticed because he did it on a bigger stage?

  • Allenp Posted: Jun.2 at 11:38 am
    Isiah walking off without shaking Jordan’s hand was wack.
    But, it’s also wack how Zeke’s failures in New York have made people unable to talk about his career rationally.
    Yes, Lebron would not want to be labeled a horrible GM (a lie) or a horrible coach (the truth.)
    But, I’m sure he’d like to win back to back championships with a scrappy team that went through both Bird’s Celtics and Magic’s Lakers. Cause that’s what Isiah did. He beat the two greatest teams of his generation to get his rings. He doesn’t have anything to be ashamed of as far as his playing career and most cats in the league should wish to be mentioned in the same sentence as him as a player.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 11:39 am
    Co-sign Allen.

  • Mansonovic Posted: Jun.2 at 11:40 am
    Myles, I get what you’re saying. But I think that was just as much a conscious decision not to throw his own teammates under the bus, as it was about trying to (wrongly) justify why he did what he did. I think there was an element of “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” in all of this.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 11:42 am
    Ok then. Question: so if you walk off a court and not shake hands with an opponet you are now a scourge to society? I’d like to gather a list of guys that have done this in the past and see just how poorly they are viewed today. I’ll start: Charles Barkley
    Michael Jordan
    Larry Bird
    Isiah Thomas
    Lebron James I’d take my 5 against anyone else’s 10 times out of 10.

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 11:43 am
    Well said Allen.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 11:45 am
    Here’s my second team: Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone, Shaquille O’Neal, Dwyane Wade and Patrick Ewing. Not good enough?

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 11:46 am
    Myles has been on a crusade for quite some time to rectify the incessant fawning on LBJ. You go big boy, one incident at a time. Remember when he got swept in the Finals? How did he handle that? Quite well, I’d say. What if major trouble never finds his way? Then what? And are you REALLY worried about him being able to handle adversity? Is that your leitmotiv? Gotta go guys, I’ll read the comments later tonight.

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 11:47 am
    @ Mansonovic – I’m not blaming him for being sad about losing. I’m saying that he’s been beating people and celebrating and dancing or whatever all season, which is fine. THe issue is that all while he was winning he expected the other players to show him respect when he won, yet he can’t return the favor. That’s the issue. Again, I hate to make this sound like I think it’s such a huge issue, because I don’t, I’m juast saying people are making way to many excuses for this guy.

  • AR Posted: Jun.2 at 11:49 am
    “We all know the dude’s a waste of humanity as a man”.
    Jesus.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 11:50 am
    I just don’t understand why anyone feels like he wouldve had to demean his teammates at a post game presser. The man has been dealing with national media attention for like a decade. He can answer or duck a question with the best of them. So yea, the media probably wouldve had plenty of stupid questions about NY or the quality if his teammates, but that doesn’t mean he had to play along. There were only two ways he couldve embarrassed his teammates in that situation, insulting them or leaving them to fend for themselves.

  • Max Posted: Jun.2 at 11:52 am
    James’ actions were questionable, his words pretty awful and awkward. But am I the only one that’s amused by the fallout from this incident being amped up most heavily not by the commenters, but by SLAM writers? Myles Brown you’d expect, because he’s been driving home the weak score-keeping with Kobe the entire playoffs with name-calling invective that’s creepy in its obsessiveness. But let’s tip our hat to Russ, who takes the overstatement to a new level by saying this will define Bron’s legacy just as it dogged Isiah (even though Isiah had a much longer track record of antagonism with Jordan prior to handshake-gate, and Isiah orchestrated a whole group of players to be unsportsmanlike). Then again, when you’re the resident protector of the Jordan legacy (his Airness being a pristine role model never prone to bad behavior, of course) on SLAM, no surprise there either.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 11:52 am
    I’d like to hear what his teammates actually felt about it.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 11:53 am
    Actually he just walked off then too. I smell a pattern…so say what you will of my “crusade” I just think its the same standard I’d hold anyone else to under the same circumstances.

  • Stan Posted: Jun.2 at 11:54 am
    I think Lebron was more disappointed than anything. Kobe was able to take his team to the Finals and Lebron was expected to do the same thing. Lebron did everything he could, i’m sure he came in to the orlando series thinking that he will be in the Finals given all the success they had before that, but that didn’t happen. How can he be more disappointed than his teammates though, they all stayed and congratulated the magic. Was Carmelo not disappointed? Don’t bring up things that are off the court, we’re talking about sportsmanship here. Lebron is not a bad guy, we all know that.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Jun.2 at 11:56 am
    Which is why the comparison was actually unfair to Isiah. When he walked off the court after losing to the Bulls, he was a proud two-time NBA champ that just got swept by their hated archrivals who they’d beaten like a red-headed stepchild (I can say that since I’m a redhead) the previous couple of years). Yet Joe Dumars, who remembered the Bulls being gracious after each of those losses, stuck around to congratulate them. As for those Bulls, after they lost to the Magic in ’95, Pippen and Jordan were the LAST TWO players in the locker room, answering painful questions until the end. If you want to be remembered as an all-time great—as one the very best—it’s not just about how you win, but how you lose. EVERY superstar is held to that standard. Why should LeBron be treated any different? I find it hard to believe that, had the Magic been on the losing end, that Dwight would have just stormed off (and then actually attempted to justify it the next day by claiming to be a “winner”). And it’s not just “bitter columnists and bloggers” who are making this a story. Bill Rhoden of the New York Times, author of “$40 Million Slaves” and the staunchest defender there is of the black athlete, takes him to task today. As does Michael Wilbon (albeit in a rather backhanded fashion). As for the millions of kids out there, I’d hope at least some of them have parents who explain that there’s a right and a wrong way to act after a loss. And that way was wrong.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 11:56 am
    Actually, Michael Jordan and Shaquille O’Neal have been ripped apart by a few of the SLAM writers without much filter, so this is not a new approach to speaking about other great plaeyrs of the game. Remarkably, Kobe is now some pariah that is protected because he’s apparently “had enough” and needs to be left alone. Strange. But not surprising. That is why people like me say what I say about Mr. Overabused. I was a huge fan of those guys as well as my current boycrush, Dwyane (another guy who’s been dragged across the coals by some of the same guys) so I’m just following the trend.

  • Mansonovic Posted: Jun.2 at 11:57 am
    How can he NOT be more disappointed? His teammates shook hands and meekly accepted their fate because they KNEW the stunk the joint out. Again, not defending what LeBron did, but he certainly had more reason to do it than the chokers he called “teammates”.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 11:58 am
    *players

  • riggs Posted: Jun.2 at 12:00 pm
    co-sign russ to the umpth degree

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 12:00 pm
    Well said Russ.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Jun.2 at 12:01 pm
    Max, I never said it would DEFINE his legacy, just that it would be a part of it.

  • Max Posted: Jun.2 at 12:02 pm
    Rhoden’s piece was brilliant. The various radioactive mutations of his reasoning being applied by other pundits with an axe to grind, not so much.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 12:10 pm
    I have to say, I am quite fond of Max and his worplay. But I have nothing invested in Kobe outside of being a basketball fan and any invective on my part directed towards the Kang is not in defense of Kobe as much as it is in defense of the process that he and his predecessors endured. And if Russ and I are the only bloggers around discussing the matter its because the rest of the Brontourage has disappeared. Namely MrJones who you best believe would have a bevy of one liners had this happened in the WCF. But I understand its the price I pay for being so vocal and all I can do is try to be consistent in my rationale.

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 12:20 pm
    Brontourage…nice. Co-sign Myles.

  • Jackie Moon Posted: Jun.2 at 12:26 pm
    What Myles said.

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 12:32 pm
    I guess this is what you get when SLAM puts on you the cover and you don’t pay off. They did it to Iverson, now they’re doing it to Lebron. Amazing.
    I expect you guys to dig up something on Kobe when they lose to the Magic.

  • Khalid Salaam Posted: Jun.2 at 12:37 pm
    what russ said

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 12:38 pm
    Originally I was pissed at James about this too… I mean, I had rooted for the dude all through the playoffs and he pulls this off and makes me look bad. But some of you are just WAY TOO HAPPY to find that Lebron isn’t perfect. It’s upsetting, to say the least.
    I mean, the crap Lebron got through this series was RIDICULOUS. When the calls came the Cavaliers way, it was “OMG THE CAVS ONLY WON BECAUSE OF REFS CALLS” and when the calls went the Magic’s way, it was “HA CAVS CAN’T WIN WHEN THE CALLS AREN’T COMING THERE WAY!!!”
    Whenever Lebron went out, the lead vanished. Lebron’s teammates started playing like defensive idiots (VAREJAO). Mike Brown pretty much decided he wasn’t going to coach and let his DEFENSIVE AND OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS TAKE OVER IN TIMEOUTS. Lebron tried to do everything and at the end, found himself too exausted. Everyone is thanking Delonte? The dude who, at every second quarter, held the ball and stopped ball movement and practically lost the Cavalier lead every game? Really?
    If I was Lebron, I’d be FUMING. And now I have to deal with this? Screw it. I’d never shake anyone’s hand again.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 12:38 pm
    I guess I should enjoy the impression people get that I have any decision making capacities or influence outside of my blog or comments. There is no “you guys”.

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 12:39 pm
    Myles, I included Russ and Adam in “you guys.” The world doesn’t revolve around you, thank god.

  • Trey Posted: Jun.2 at 12:43 pm
    So…let’s pretend he shook hands with every player and answered questions from every reporter in the building…and then proceeded to demand a trade (even saying that “he would rather play on Pluto”) while throwing his organization and teammates under the proverbial bus, would that define his legacy, especially if the next season he was granted a gift All-Star PF for nothing and played up being a great teammate? Or would we just sweep this little incident under the rug? P.S. It was reported that D-Wade didn’t shake the Hawks’ hands after losing in Game 7. Point: Who cares? He probably should’ve shaken their hands, but as a sore loser myself, it didn’t really bother me as I might have done the same thing in that situation.

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 12:43 pm
    Iverson hits someone with a pistol, Carmello gets busted with weed, Shaq phone stalks a woman, JR Smith rips someone’s dress and SPITS on them… None of these issues got THIS much attention. Wow. That’s just… WOW.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 12:44 pm
    I’m trying to keep up with the insults to Lebron. The Kang. Check. Brontourage. Check. Crybaby. Check. Loser. Check. B*tch. Check. This is fun. No disrespect in any of these names is there? Got to save these somewhere.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 12:45 pm
    Thats my point. I already acknowledged that LeBrons most vocal supporters at the mag are relatively silent on the issue as I suppose I would be if not backed into a corner with my own incessant commenting. But I, nor Russ, nor Adam or many others have any decision making influence with who goes on covers and whatnot. Not to complain, just to state facts that “we” did not decide to put anyone on a cover and then lambast them when they dont come through.

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 12:45 pm
    Eboy: Lebrick Shames.

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 12:47 pm
    Myles: Perhaps they should be fired. They should have realized what a POOR SPORTSMAN and HUMAN BEING Lebron is.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 12:47 pm
    Got it. Thanks Jukai. I currently have 32 names……but 26 of them would require me to x out too many letters to get them through the filter.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 12:48 pm
    All because he didn’t shake hands.

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 12:49 pm
    Eboy: Yeah, he’s a poor man’s Dominique Wilkins!

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 12:52 pm
    Remember when Jason Richardson was driving 70 miles over the speed limit with his toddler unbuckled in the backseat? Man, that was bad, but at least the dude SHAKES HANDS AFTER GAMES AND GOES TO PRESS CONFERENCES!!!

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 12:55 pm
    And this is where any further conversation is pointless. Thanks for playing though….

  • AR Posted: Jun.2 at 12:55 pm
    Ok,now everyone’s being silly.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 12:59 pm
    Is it really? We are? Just like all this talk of no handshake is NOT silly, when there’s an enticing NBA Finals two days away from going forward. Yes, then you are right.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 12:59 pm
    And for the record, “Kang” is merely a case of inflection, not an insult. A southern drawl if you will, as TI calls himself the “Kang”. And Brontourage is no different than Brycophant or any other play on words that is more suitable for wordplay than castigation. Nonetheless, a running list of namecalling from the man who call someone an idiot, dumdum or something of the sort at least once a day in addition to the litany of homophobic rants he goes on-”f*ggot move, “gay pride parade”, etc-is nothing less than amusing. Keep building those strawmen scarecrow….

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 1:02 pm
    Everyone’s right though, what Lebron should have done is thrown everyone of his team under the bus during the press conference, then went outside and name-called everyone he wanted and demand a trade to someplace else, then go and r@pe someone. Then maybe he’ll get an all-star power forward on their team or something.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 1:03 pm
    Fa*got move really is hard to argue when speaking about guys like Mark Blount or Jarod Collins and their skillset.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 1:04 pm
    Myles, honestley, you need to take that magic mirror you keep near your laptop and turn that thing in the opposite direction to validate yourself.

  • AR Posted: Jun.2 at 1:06 pm
    Eboy:What LeBron did DID show bad sportsmanship.But the reaction to it has been overblown and ridiculous.Yours included.

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 1:06 pm
    Pretty sure Myles Just pwn’d Eboy VERY badly…

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 1:08 pm
    I’m just playing along AR, you know, ’cause it’s all fun and games when the cool guys are the ones throwing insults.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 1:09 pm
    wayno, I’m pretty sure that type of thing never would bother a person like me. Which of course, it didn’t. And anyone that speaks using pwn’d in their everyday dialect usually has no place in an adult debate. Just saying.

  • namik Posted: Jun.2 at 1:13 pm
    It’s sad that the formerly intelligent posters on this site have been reduced to the usual squabbling idiots that can be found on any basketball forum everywhere. Even the reasons given in their defense are the same -(paraphrase)”I’m tired of the fawning over LeBron/Kobe”(paraphrase). LeBron f*cked up and yes since he has been presented as the Anti-Kobe by many people here, it IS a big deal. But Kobe did worse in 06 when he asked all his teammates not to shake hands with the Suns. Admittedly there was bad blood in that series but still, that was a b*tch move on his part and this is coming from a Laker fan. I think what really riles people up is the fact that Laker fans are quick to deflect ANY blame from Kobe, while the rest of the basketball world has been quick to overlook any shortcomings in LeBron on and off the court.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Jun.2 at 1:19 pm
    If I may interject a brief non sequitur? For someone who really can’t stand Kanye West, I’ve been listening to “Maybach Music 2″ WAY too much. I don’t know what’s wrong with me. “Fifty-seven, 62, tell me how you wanna move.” RAWSE! OK, sorry. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

  • Ryan Jones Posted: Jun.2 at 1:24 pm
    What everybody else said.

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 1:25 pm
    Um I didn’t “speak” at all I typed it…anyone who refers to an online debate as speaking needs to step away from thier computer for more than 8 minutes a day and meet some real people who aren’t on message boards…Just saying…

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 1:25 pm
    Like a BAWSE.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 1:27 pm
    wayno, you are right. A billion percent. Sorry to have ’caused you any grief.

  • B. Long Posted: Jun.2 at 1:29 pm
    LeBron James would’ve been better off just going into hiding for the next 6 months instead of doing that interview yesterday. And if you don’t think that that wearing that Yankee hat to the interview was LeBron’s way of reminding Cav’s fans that they better not ever be critical of him because he could be gone at any moment, then you don’t know LeBron very well.

  • Allenp Posted: Jun.2 at 1:30 pm
    Man, I think too much is being made of this issue, but I don’t feel sorry for Bron.
    He chose not to shake hands. He knows people watch his every move, he revels in it. He likes being the center of attention, just like most NBA superstars. So, if you like the spotlight you have to accept it when it illuminates and when it burns. That’s life.
    He went out like a punk for not shaking hands. It’s a punk move. If I was on the park, or in the gym, and somebody did that, I’d think they were a sore-losing punk. If I smashed somebody in 2K9 or Live and they got all pissy, I’d think the same.
    If Bron didn’t believe in post game interactions he should have the court when he won as well as when he lost. His excuse that he’s a “winner” is bogus. He’s lost plenty of times before. In fact, he doesn’t have a ring, so ultimately he’s lost every year since he’s been in the league. He should understand what losing is, and he should know how to deal with it by now.
    He deserves to be questioned for acting churlish. He make is own King-sized bed, so now he has to lie in it. Ulimately, the same media that is tearing him down will be praising him even more when he wins a ring. That’s how the game works.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 1:30 pm
    I think B is smart and wise. Can you be both?

  • B. Long Posted: Jun.2 at 1:31 pm
    That being said, he is just a kid. 30 is the new 20 so I guess that makes LeBron 14? Now this all makes sense.

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 1:35 pm
    co-sign Allen. Well said. That’s been my point the whole time, you just articulated it far better than I.

  • AR Posted: Jun.2 at 1:39 pm
    He is not a kid.

  • ABIMATOR Posted: Jun.2 at 1:39 pm
    Fu(k all this sh*t, Magic in 5!!!

  • tina Posted: Jun.2 at 1:42 pm
    YES!!! i’m 20 hahaha

  • The Seed Posted: Jun.2 at 1:43 pm
    What does Kobe have to do with this article, Knowing, shows what are on people mind, Make Kobe look bad to prop Lebron up-Sad. For all these new Lebron fans, alot of people don’t like Lebron, before this walk out, I see him as fake as can be, he says all the right things, try to be this nice cool dude, who Mo loves, but to be honest, one of his teammates should have called him out- To me this is the sad part, they are scared to call out their leader. NAMIK, your dumb, Kobe paid his price from wannabes like you, Kobe messed up in Colordao, but I have messed up in life, you have, Imagine if everyone knew about your life, we probably wouldn’t want to chat with you. This Kobe talk about r@pe is dumb too, the girl stopped the case, took the money and doesn’t even talk to her eye witness bell hop friend old boyfriend anymore. Check it online, Kobe to me is the face of the NBA-and world, I read articles about Lebron getting mad because Kobe was treated like a rockstar. Lebron is arrogant and it showed, more because he had time to talk to his MOM, JAY Z, BUFFET and agents about what to say to media. I don’t understand and someone tell me how a player who admitting feels can’t be stopped, takes camera picutres when up in games in front of other teams, dances on sidelines when winning, hitting fake balls, but when he wins against ATL and DET, wants love from fellow players. Howard said it best when he said PRIDE MAKES A MAN FALL- BYE BYE LEBRON.

  • B. Long Posted: Jun.2 at 1:55 pm
    AR:That’s called sarcasm.

  • TADOne Posted: Jun.2 at 2:11 pm
    This is kind of entertaining.

  • Ryan Jones Posted: Jun.2 at 2:19 pm
    Here, in order of chronology and (probably) importance, are the three worst things that happened to me last weekend:
    -Everton 1-2 Chelsea
    -My lawnmower broke
    -I came down with the flu (no swin-o)
    I’ve been in bed with that always-fun combination of sweats/chills and body ache for about 48 of the past 62 hours, the suspicious timing of which will please those of you on the “look how right we were!” side of the debate being hosted here. Unfortunately, the Cavs’ Game 6 loss was only the fifth worst thing that happened to me this weekend (No. 4 being we just figured out we’ve been overpaying on our local property taxes; long, expensive story), and almost certainly not the reason I got sick. Regarding which I can only say, I’m sorry to have disappointed you.
    But, since I’m pretty much contractually obliged to speak on this topic, here’s what I’ll say:
    -LeBron wasn’t good enough. Statistically speaking, he wasn’t good enough in roughly the same way that Jerry West wasn’t good enough in the 1969 NBA Finals, when he (West) averaged 38 ppg and claimed Finals MVP honors despite the Lakers (who also had Wilt Chamberlain!!! And Elgin Baylor!!!!!) losing the series. But still, not good enough is not good enough, and that’s exactly what LeBron was.
    -LeBron should’ve stayed around to congratulate the Magic, and he should’ve spoken to the media. He didn’t, and so some amount of public wrist-slapping is deserved. I could try to defend/justify his failure here by imagining what was going through his mind at the final buzzer — “I’m better than every guy on that team, but because they have a bunch of 6-9 shooters who hit an absurd 50 percent from three the whole series, they’re moving on and I’m not; f*ck this” — but that would make me the sort of empathetic judge who screws up a perfectly good supreme court. It also wouldn’t change the fact that he should’ve congratulated the Magic, and he didn’t. So, fail LeBron.
    -I could also argue that many of the folks on the “You stay classy, LeBron” tip (sorry my phone was off, Myles; really hated to miss that text when it came through) seem a little silly hammering any shortcomings in LeBron’s character when Your Favorite Player™ is famously and repeatedly guilty of much, much worse, but again, that wouldn’t change the fact that LeBron should’ve manned up after the game, and he should expect to be publicly chastised for failing in that regard.
    -As more people seem to be realizing by the hour, hating LeBron is fun, free and easy; I often think that if I hadn’t had the access to him that I have, perhaps I would hate him too. Just my luck that I had to meet him and spend a bunch of time around him, I guess. My judgment must be atrocious.
    Anyway, those of you who choose to, take joy in his team’s loss (enjoying another team’s failure is at least as fun as reveling in “your” team’s success, a fact of sports fandom I’m with which I’m well acquainted), and let the Cavs’ failure reflect on him however you like. But anyone who looks past the actual oncourt realities of this series — Orlando’s matchup advantages and their almost literally unbelievable three-point shooting and the Cavs’ obvious deficiencies and LeBron’s historically mind-blowing excellence — and sees it as anything other than what it was is too basketball-stupid for me to take seriously.
    You can, as The Logo made clear 40 years ago, be f*cking ridiculously good and not good enough at the same time.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 2:20 pm
    I missed you Sports Gal.

  • Ryan Jones Posted: Jun.2 at 2:21 pm
    Now I’m gonna go make up for almost two days of missed work at my job (stupid job), so I will not be available for further interplay on this one. If you want to take that as refusing to shake hands with the winners, why, that’s up to you.

  • Alan Paul Posted: Jun.2 at 2:21 pm
    Isiah and Pistons still have not lived that down down 20 years later. LBJ making a big mistake with his handling of this situation.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 2:27 pm
    Wow, Alan Paul!!!! Damn…..this Lebron thing brings out the best. Good to see your name Alan. BTW, unless someone else wants to seem silly and argue this…..Isiah and the Pistons as A WHOLE were universally hated by NBA fans at that point of their team history. That’s not even debatable as their only support was from their diehard fans. Lebron is the complete opposite, universally loved and commited a mistep that won’t haunt him for his career, but will be a needle that will bug him until he addresses it at a later time. The small percantage of fans/press/etc. that dislike him won’t break Lebron’s abiltiy to be the most marketable guy in the league because of this. It won’t.

  • Eboy Posted: Jun.2 at 2:28 pm
    *percentage/ability

  • Tavoris Posted: Jun.2 at 2:30 pm
    I read through all-well most-well, some-of the responses, and it boils down to this: Lebron broke Sportsmanship Rule 101-be humble in victory and gracious in defeat. There’s no way 2 justify doing otherwise, especially when you are the one getting all the glory for your teams success. This half-assed explanation of why he didn’t exhibit sportsmanship won’t hurt his image, but it still was no good.

  • Bryan Posted: Jun.2 at 2:31 pm
    Co sign eboy.

  • Tavoris Posted: Jun.2 at 2:32 pm
    Jukai, Robert Parish got busted with a heluva lot more weed than Melo did…and let’s not get on Bill Walton’s decades of drug abuse. Don’t use the easy targets to prove your point.

  • B. Long Posted: Jun.2 at 2:49 pm
    Ummm, I’m not sure if James Posey’s facebook page is real or not, but it seems to be hinting in his updates that he maybe heading to Cleveland. Interesting.

  • TADOne Posted: Jun.2 at 3:01 pm
    The Pistons enjoyed being universally hated.

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 3:02 pm
    Tavoris: Okay, Tavoris, let’s replace Carmello with Bill Walton and Robert Parish. Did their drug busts get anywhere near the amount of attention that Lebron is getting now?
    Actually, I’m really asking, because I don’t remember that crap. But my point remains.

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 3:11 pm
    As a Pistons fan during that era, I throughly enjoyed everyone else hating the Pistons…it made them winning that much sweeter. I can only imagine how much that feeling was amplified in the players on that team.

  • Tavoris Posted: Jun.2 at 3:13 pm
    actually, Robert Parish’s DID get a lot of attention (he tried to have 2 ounces of weed Fedex’ed to him). And everybody and their momma knows that Walton’s habits shortened his career as much as his injuries did. Lebron is getting a lot of heat right now, but trust that it will all be forgotten by Thurs…

  • ENDS Posted: Jun.2 at 3:41 pm
    I Love My Magic just wanted to point that out. it was said that if the Double O won it would create this chaotic disorder…

  • Eazy Yi Posted: Jun.2 at 3:42 pm
    This small thing really warranted an article?
    Yawn, the guy wants to win you’re asking why he didn’t go and hug the guys he just lost to? Why he didn’t want to talk to the media who are going to ask him the same questions for two months regardless of one they do it? And his team mates? who didn’t step up continually? I think LeBron is the best player in the NBA and still, even after “this” the best team mate in the NBA

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 3:50 pm
    Tavoris: C’mon dude… I’m sure Walton constantly seeing unicorns on the court was a hindrance to his career, but I’m pretty sure it was his knees/ankles/back that did him in, and ONLY his knees/ankles/back.

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 3:51 pm
    And that’s just it! This WILL be forgotten by Thursday! So why is it such a big deal to crucify him now!

  • Diogo Posted: Jun.2 at 3:57 pm
    Heavy indeed. People give him sh*t for the most unimportant things.

  • Adam Sweeney Posted: Jun.2 at 4:07 pm
    Perception is reality and at the moment many people believe LeBron James acted in a selfish manner. I am a LeBron fan but he is not above criticism for mistakes. It comes with being a superstar athlete. Nobody should be above examination or having respect for their opponent, for that matter. Nobody is asking him to hug his opponents. A simple “good game” will do. It’s really not that hard to do. Whether or not you believe his behavior was a big deal, it’s impossible to deny that he displayed poor sportsmanship, something the “best team player and student of the game” should not do.

  • Adam Sweeney Posted: Jun.2 at 4:13 pm
    Jukai, I hope you know that I have yet to talk to anyone on the SLAM staff is happy that LeBron is out of the Playoffs. I know I’m disappointed. And the letdown has nothing to do with the fact he is on the cover of our magazine. I love LeBron’s game. Having said that, it is our job to examine both the good and bad decisions of players. Anyone making comments, not saying that you are personally, that say, “Well it could be worse. He could be a felon,” is missing the point. Mistakes aren’t relative. I don’t say, ‘Well Dwight Howard elbowed a guy but it’s ok. He could have jumped in the stands like Ron Ron!” You measure each incident individually. In this case LeBron messed up. It stands alone.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 4:19 pm
    Myles, Russ, Alan Paul and whomever. Nobody is saying that LeBron didn’t mess up. He did. That’s done been acknowledge. What we (or at lease I) are saying is that nobody will care by Thursday. Here’s a list of what superstars have done in the recent years: punch opponents, publicly demand to be traded, publicly demand for teammates to be traded, drive under the influence, get caught with weed, cheat on their wives/gfs, get accused of sexual abuse, diss opponents through the media, refuse to come out of a game, refuse to come off the bench, miss practise. as far as i know, bron hasn’t done any of those things. as far as i know, his teammates love him. as far as i know, his rep around the league is flawless (except with deshawn). so yeah, he should have shook hands with dwight but are you freaking kidding me?! part of his legacy? failure to deal with tough situations?

  • tealish Posted: Jun.2 at 4:24 pm
    I actually read through all the comments just to see where some of our regular commentators and SLAM writers stand, and I’ve got to say for the most part, I’m impressed with the honesty. Taking LeBron James to task was definitely warranted and I’m somewhat surprised at how much run this story is getting — not because the issue itself is undeserving of it, but because it’d be so much easier not to and be that “loyal mag” that Bron will recognize when he does rise back towards his throne on high.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 4:34 pm
    Adam, I don’t think anyone at SLAM is really pleased that LeBron is out of the playoffs… except Myles. He may try to hide behind a certain objectivity that’s not there or claim that he’s just trying to rectify the slurping that Bron gets but, to quote Jay, ‘we don’t believe you, you need more people’. Here’s what he wrote after Bron went for 44-12 and 7 in 49 mins and lost in OT :
    ”2.Speaking of Shard. Clutch. LeBron….eh, not so much. Yes, there were amazing drives/dunks, clutch FT and long range threes that willed their way in. But there were also numerous thoughtless turnovers, airballs, and completely mismanaged possessions. And please dont say he was tired. Cause youre probably one of the same folks that was talking that “Fo, Fo, Fo” Sh*t a week ago. The Cavs have played the least games of any team left in the playoffs and Shard has played 200 more minutes that the Kang. No excuses. If hes amazing one minute, he cant be that tired the next. 3.He fell over. That was Bullsh*t. Capital B. 4.Hes 6′8, 270 or some sh*t like that. For the millionth time, get a post game. 5.When he starts throwing teammates under the bus, lets just hope one of them uses one of those fancy cameras he got them. 6.If a certain someone was one second away from being swept after winning 66 games, being named MVP, and being proclaimed the favorite to win the series by ‘experts’ despite the fact that his team lost 3 of 4 during the regular season to that same opponent and proceeded to turn the ball over 7 times in the fourth quarter and overtime, shoot airballs and keep looking for the refs to bail him out in the biggest must-win game of his life…Hed NEVER EVER EVER hear the end of it. Ever.”
    His biggest argument is usually that Kobe would catch heat for such and such so he MUST balance things out. Meh. For me, he has lost any credibility in discussing Bron-related things.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 4:40 pm
    I still wonder what they did with those cameras…

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 4:43 pm
    They’re there, waiting to catch it on film when (not even if) he’ll throw his teammates under the bus. I know you’ll be watching.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 4:46 pm
    I actually think they bought the same camera that filmed someone in a parking lot throwing someone else of his own team under a proverbial bus. They got it 4 cheap.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 4:55 pm
    I love a good sale.

  • Jukai Posted: Jun.2 at 5:04 pm
    Adam, I believe Lebron deserved to take a hit for how he presented himself. I’m surprised you said a handshake will tarnish his legacy and devoted it to an entire post, while someone else buying weed or throwing his teammates under the bus or driving under the influence winds up in the “other news” section.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 5:08 pm
    In all honesty, you have every right to not slurp Bron. He can make do without a fan or two. It’s just that everytime you try to pass up your criticism of him or his game as objective or constructive… I can not help but laugh. And for that, I thank you. I look forward to any article on Bron on this site (good or bad) partly because I know you’ll be there to ‘not let Bron get a free pass’. It’s entertaining and it gives me a chance to chance to poke holes in your rationale. Thank you, Mr. Brown.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 5:11 pm
    Time to pack sh!t up. Looking forward to duke it out in another thread about Bron disrespecting the city of Cleveland and tarnishing his legacy by sporting Yankees hat. or something to that effect.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 5:12 pm
    I am Zool.

  • tealish Posted: Jun.2 at 5:15 pm
    Jukai: Maybe it has to do with LeBron being the biggest name in the NBA. Just a thought.

  • Zee! Posted: Jun.2 at 5:53 pm
    Lakers in 6.

  • TYRILLA Posted: Jun.2 at 6:10 pm
    Lebron walked out on his teammates not the magic GOODBYE Cleveland HELLO N.Y. cleveland better pull a rabbitt out of the hat B4 that contract is up or up is what LJ will b.

  • Max Posted: Jun.2 at 6:45 pm
    Let’s summarize who’s taken a good number of whacks at the pinata that is Lebron’s reputation post-Game 6: Myles Brown, Russ Bengtson, Adrian Wojnarowski, Ken Berger, Skip Bayless, Jemele Hill, Micheal Wilbon, Charley Rosen, Jay Mariotti, and even Brendan Haywood (!!). I assume Isiah and Deshawn are writing editorials as I post this. (I’m sure I’ve missed a few others — if I listed all the Laker and Magic scribes frothing with indignation, it would been out of control — but these were the loudest barkers at the time I checked). As I mentioned earlier, Rhoden is in a different league in his attention to nuance and context. The others hurt my ears and eyes, and allied together around the Lebron Takedown, they make the most interesting case of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” that I’ve seen in a while.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Jun.2 at 6:54 pm
    As I said before; this is the consequence of not letting the kid BREATHE. He is after all a human being. If there weren’t so many Super-haters, or so many foolish d!ck riders that are actually defending his (in which anybody that plays any actual sport knows, what he pulled says A LOT ABOUT HIM… PLEASE CONTINUE TO STUNT LIKE IT DIDN’T) behavior he may actually have the freedom to develop into the most awesome player alive.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Jun.2 at 7:02 pm
    I’ve read these posts with you guys bringing up all of these other players doing something they shouldn’t have outside of basketball; Your Lord and Savior seriously F’d up on 1 step closer to the biggest stage their is, in his PROFESSION, where it really matters. This won’t cement his legacy, but yeah; he’s Isiah status. You can blog about it forever, it won’t change that. Sorry.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 7:06 pm
    here we go again, another dude arguing against the thousands of non existent d!ck riders defending not shaking hands after a loss. do you come up with your own counter arguments in your false debates? READ THE COMMENTS. the issue is with the over dramatization of the ‘incident’ which is ridiculously benign when that’s the worst you can come up with as far as off court stuff for this dude. especially when you compare his ‘antics’ to those of other stars of his caliber. i won’t repeat the list, scroll up.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 7:07 pm
    and as somebody else pointed, nobody even remembers wade not shaking hands with the hawks. and it was like a month ago. to suggest that this will have any lingering effect on his legacy is laughable… at best.

  • Max Posted: Jun.2 at 7:09 pm
    And Myles, thank you for the kind words, and as with other SLAM writers, you are great when you are reasonable. The outburst that Z quoted above, though, was a little unhinged even by SLAM standards (though I’m sure there’s Ryan or is it Ryne hatefest somewhere I’ve suppressed in my memory). I guess I’ll have to get used to more crowing, though, since my pick is the Lakers for the Finals.

  • Sparker Posted: Jun.2 at 7:17 pm
    ah, jordan cried when he won his 1st chip. boys will be boys.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Jun.2 at 7:18 pm
    Wait, did you not just mention someone else other than LeBron Z? Did you just mention Wade? Thanks for validating my point.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 7:19 pm
    myles is actually a freaking good writer, he just turns into an intellectually dishonest bigot when talking about lebron. what’s even worse is that he will argue to his grave that he’s merely being objective. which actually makes him a fraudulent intellectually dishonest bigot. thankfully, he’s only like that when bron is the subject matter. otherwise, he’s a very gifted and witty journalist. i don’t know if i could give a better back handed compliment, that was my best effort right there.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 7:23 pm
    your point being that since this was done in the ecf its actually much worse than if it had happened in the 1st round? okay, that sounds reasonable to me. if that was your point. why does bron need to be my ‘lord and savior’ for me to consider this benign? can’t he just be my lord? why does he need to save me? i think you’re demanding a bit too much out of him.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Jun.2 at 7:37 pm
    Z; Well, my comment’s weren’t directly geared specific towards you; However, it was for everyone that had mentioned someone other than LeBron in their faults. I do understand favoritism, that is the essence of being a fan. But what he damn sure wasn’t benign. I remember in another LeBron argument you stating that you were 6’7 Z? Well assuming (just assuming) you play any sport, even casually, imagine busting somebody’s @$$… If it’s maybe a 2 on 2, game 11, and you score 9 out of 11 on the guy guarding you. The other guy on his team at LEAST nods his head to you and says “good game”; the guy you killed storms of the court pitifully and angrily. What are you tell your friends about that guy the next time you see him? “THAT GUYS A B$TCH!!!!” Z laughed, as he tied his sneakers tightly. Now I’m just saying, multiply that by a Billion.

  • Myung Posted: Jun.2 at 7:45 pm
    I hate the phrase “chink in the King’s armor,” but that’s just me.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 7:58 pm
    i get that jay. i’m not even arguing that it wasn’t the right thing to do. it wasn’t the right thing to do, point blank. lebron james is a sore loser and he should’ve faced the music. what i argue is that story was completely blown out of proportion. i’ve played hundreds (prolly thousands?) of organized basketball games from junior high up to college. can’t say that i shook hands with the opposition after every defeat. it’s human nature, sometimes it stings and you deal with it the wrong way. i don’t think he disrespected the magic and i don’t think the magic feel disrespected. he did email dwight that same night (his words). i’m pretty sure that there won’t be any bad blood between those two except an healthy rivalry between two great players. / the comments here about how this is the ‘true nature’ of bron are just so far fetched that it makes me think that some were DYING for him to have a slip up. especially the writer who goes by the nom de plume of myles brown.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Jun.2 at 8:10 pm
    I get what your saying. I’m not waiting for LeBron to slip up; I’m waiting for him to get his many championships in which I’ll know he’s gonna get. I’ve got my favorites too, but I try to stay as objective as I can. It was just frustrating to see guys on here use other players faults as meat-sheilds to block the fire of LeBron’s faulty behavior being pointed out. This’ll be mentioned in LeBron’s Sportcentury episode, but I’m sure it’ll be in the first 20 minutes with the remainder being about his long dominance of the league. I just don’t wanna see him too built up (or too torn down) before he gets there.

  • that dude Posted: Jun.2 at 8:14 pm
    There’s still about 2 days till Game 1, what the hell are we suppose to talk about till then?

  • wayno Posted: Jun.2 at 8:17 pm
    Lets wait until he wins to say he’s going dominate the league for a long time…

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 8:37 pm
    it would be shocking if he doesnt, not impossible, but shocking nonetheless. if you had to bet your life on it would you bet on him winning a couple of ‘ships when it’s all said and done or not winning a couple of ‘ships? one could also argue that, when the lowest ranking you can get from some people is 1b, you’re already dominating the league.

  • Cheryl Posted: Jun.2 at 8:40 pm
    I’ve spent the last 45 minutes or so reading all these posts–rarely do I do that–and here’s my 2 cents: MEH!

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.2 at 8:44 pm
    (Charles Barkley…) First of all, thank you. And first of all, Im not dying for anyone to slip up, Ive just seen this movie too many times is all. We all know how our media sells the ascent of an athlete until there is no more positivity to sell and then they quickly look to document his downfall. We also know that our media loves to sell us the next all time great just as much. Ive always held fast in two things: 1) That LeBron James rapid ascent to superstardom was practically inevitable due to a number of factors, primarily the climate that Jordan created, the void that Kobe left post Colorado and James undeniable talent. He was the first pro ready high school wing player ever and he not only fulfilled the hype, he exceeded it. This meant that the bar needed to be reset, that expectations needed to be furthered and in my opinion they were pushed to an unreasonable level. Any basketball fan is well within their boundaries to acknowledge that LeBron James is the single most unpredcidented physical specimen in the history of the game and that he has every tool to become its greatest player. However this hyperbole surrouding him is completely discarding the process that other players had to go through to become the greatest. I lived in Chicago, was in Chicago Stadium and can assure you that there was nothing but doubt surrounding Jordan and his ability to make his teammates better, shed his lust for scoring and win a title. Even though he had an MVP to his name, there was still healthy debate as to whether he was the best player in the league, much less close to becoming the best of all time until he began to win titles. I believe wholeheartedly that leBron James can win titles. But to treat them as though theyre merely letters to be tacked on his jacket in my opinion is to demean them and the work it takes to acquire them. To treat his statistical dominance as a reflection of a complete game and skill set is to ignore the readily apparent flaws still in his game. Of course hes not a finished product, but by that same token he never will be if hes never challenged to. (Shaq would be an appropriate comparison of someone who couldve achieved much more) And not to bring you know who into this, but its been noted time and again this year how James, Wade and Melo came back this year with a newfound focus after seeing KB’s work ethic. If theyre just learning these things in their sixth season, then its a safe assumption that KB knows plenty of other things that they dont and may never know unless they put in the time and gain the experience he has. Which isnt promised. I could go on, but this is already long enough. Anyway 2) All these mofos think theyre untouchable. Theyre not. Anyone that big becomes a target and all it takes is one thing to go wrong for everything to come into question. As Ive stated earlier, it happened to Money, Magic, Kobe and countless others. These guys are far from perfect no matter what anyone will tell you and it almost seems like a rite of passage to have your feet put to the fire. I dont wish any of it on LeBron, but I wont be so naive as to think it will never happen. And thats the only reason that I say that his handling of small things makes me question how he would handle something larger. Z, you say that its not a given and what if it doesnt happen? Then Ill be surprised and wrong. But Id still contend that careers are short, nothing is a given and he has a long way to go to fulfill his promise.

  • Old School Baller Posted: Jun.2 at 8:52 pm
    Lebron is a great player on an good (but not great) team. The Cavs got the most out of their ability and if not for injuries to the Celtics, the Cavs would not have gotten that close. The play-offs have been a Lebron love fest with constant talk of how great he is and the inevitabilty of winning a Chip. And Lebron appears to be reading his own fan mail, given some of his post-game comments. The objective of the Magic was to win the series, which they did, not stop Lebron. The saddest part about the entire saga is that the media has spent more time talking about a player (Lebron) and a team (Cavs) who will be sitting at home this week and not enough time talking about the stars (Kobe, Gasol, Dwight, etc.) who deserve the spotlight.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 9:30 pm
    i agree with most of your last post, myles. i just can’t comprehend why it is so important to you that he goes throuh mj’s so-called ‘rite of passage’? why does it bother you that some people embrace him? my biggest point though it this: the expectations are not unreasonable at all. multiple mvp’s, multiple ‘ships, possibly being the GOAT are things that are within reach for LeBron James if he continues to ball and improve at this pace. why is that blasphemous? perhaps he doesn’t have kobe’s work ethic but he did improve a lot of his weaknesses ever since he came out. although you’re still stuck in 05, bron has now a postgame, an adequate 3-point shot, solid footwok and a very nice defender. you argue that he’s not clutch but if you would take the time to look at his numbers in crunch time and the number of game winning buckets he has provided for the cavs, you’d see that you’re very wrong on this one. of course, all of those facets could get better and his midrange j NEEDS to get better. but i wouldn’t question the work ethic of someone that has improved every year since he came to the L. MJ is the ONLY comparison for his resume at his age.

  • Z Posted: Jun.2 at 9:39 pm
    two more things: 1- i don’t believe you when you say that you don’t want him to go through trials and tribulations because you’re always giddy as eff whenever a) he loses b) he slips up c) someone else is questioning/doubting/scolding. always. say what you will but your comments in these very threads suggest otherwise. 2- lebron has lost on a bigger stage (aka the finals) and handled it quite well. he has had no major (if any) off the court incident that i’m aware of. he has had teammates (namely hughes and gooden) that were DYING to be thrown under the bus. it didn’t happen. i don’t know how not shaking hands after this ecf would lead you or anyone to doubt his ability to handle adversity. you could argue that out of the superstars of the nba, he prolly has the most squeaky clean image outside of maybe dwight. in short, i’m not worried.

  • Krishan Posted: Jun.2 at 9:52 pm
    I can’t believe how an objective observation of an aberrant event could be misconstrued as subjective posturing. I guess when you’ve set your telescopic sights, expecting to find a phantom, distant object, you can’t help but fall off the cliff that’s in front of you.

  • Don Posted: Jun.2 at 10:01 pm
    i love lebron and mo, but what bron did was well, really unsportmanlike. and um, no i don’t think 23 quit, he could have scored 20 straight points, it wouldn’t matter, Cavs can’t stop howard on the other end, they would still have lost. i find it curious though that mo williams was passing up open threes. lebron needed him. mo didn’t respond.

  • tealish Posted: Jun.2 at 10:35 pm
    Z: Your outrage at the outrage would be more appropriate if Bron had only skipped out on the handshake and media. But I think what you’re ignoring or at least casting off into a lesser level of significance, is how LeBron came back 24 hours later — undoubtedly given some PR advice — and still choice to defend his actions as he did. It’s not a competitor’s “heat of the moment” thing. This is his mindset. He actually still believes he did nothing wrong. *That* is what’s startling and unless I’m missing a later retraction or clarification statement from Bron, it is what continues to startle and disappoint.

  • tealish Posted: Jun.2 at 10:36 pm
    chose*

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jun.2 at 11:33 pm
    To people somehow still dissing Kobe, when this is about LeBron, know this:
    In the world of basketball, solely basketball, being a poor sport is worse than whatever things players might have done in their past.
    Now, LeBron is one of my favorite players, but even I have to admit that it was a bad decision on his part. I know he didn’t intend to come across as a bad sport or anything, but that’s what it came down to. His disappointment and emotions got the best of him, simple and plain.
    Not as big a deal as people think, but at the same time he should face responsibility for what he did.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jun.2 at 11:35 pm
    @ Z: Correct me if I’m wrong: You defend LeBron no matter what, straight up. Myles attacks him no matter what, straight up. So both of you shouldn’t complain about the ‘onesidedness’ of the other’s arguments.

  • rainman10 Posted: Jun.2 at 11:39 pm
    Russ, Eboy…you guys are the reason I continue to read these threads.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jun.2 at 11:43 pm
    Surprisingly, co-sign Max.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jun.2 at 11:46 pm
    WOW, I can’t believe I’m saying this… Co-sign Jukai 12:32 pm. I like you SLAM guys, but seriously, what he said was pretty much on point. And I would never agree with Jukai unless I had to, if you know what I mean.

  • KBlair2689 Posted: Jun.2 at 11:52 pm
    Okay, I have a question. In 2007 when the Cavs were swept by the Spurs, did Lebron avoid the media then? bc i don’t think he did…

  • Dacre Posted: Jun.2 at 11:53 pm
    I’ve read and re-read this post; I was enthralled and dumbfounded by the sheer viscosity of reactions to LeBrons actions during the close-out of the series and I noticed something… TWO PARTICULAR STANCES: If you were in anyway representative of the media or somewhat mature about sportsmanship you basically decided that Lebron made a social faux par (thats a pretty big motsa ball out there Jerry…), hopefully speculating that he see’s the ripple effect this can have on his reputation and his rolemodel-ness and just thinks a little clearer, BUT I also noted a 2nd group that DUG THEIR CLAWS IN AND TORE SHREDS OFF HIM, I call this 2nd group “Kobe Bryant fans”.

  • Darksaber Posted: Jun.3 at 12:15 am
    hello kids, first off: this was one of the best comments sections to read in a long time here. Especially considering how detractors&supporters of LBJ usually go after one another on these posts. Eboy was a voice of reason and by his standards, quite even keeled, M. Brown did what he usually does when given a chance to discredit Bron and Max had some fantastic comments. We even witnessed (ha, yes i did) the return from exi…i mean illness of Ryan. And Z doing his thing as well as Jukester (was there a Myung sighting in here too?). And hardly any insults too, wonderful read.

  • Krishan Posted: Jun.3 at 12:28 am
    It would be so awfully nice if a lebron incident didn’t devolve into a kobe discussion by the way

  • Krishan Posted: Jun.3 at 12:35 am
    And darksaber, if I could play the part of devil’s advocate: yes it was an good back-and-forth comments section. But what I can’t wrap around it is that there are almost 200 comments regarding a failed handshake. I don’t know if that’s good or just downright stupid.

  • Peter B Posted: Jun.3 at 12:35 am
    We now see lebron for what he truly is, his hubris and arrogance is astonishing. He has no class whatsoever. It was bad enough that he walked of the court without congratulating the Magic, but to follow that up with that stupid comment about not being able to shake hands with the person that beats you up really took the biscuit. “The King” is as contrived as his undeserved nickname, the claim that he is the best team mate in the league has proven to be patently false, a great team mate doesn’t abandon his team mates at their lowest point in the season. Until he changes his attitude I simply can not root for this guy to win a chip. He claims to be winner, high school championships don’t count in the NBA lebron!

  • Peter B Posted: Jun.3 at 12:39 am
    Krishan, lebron is the one of the most high profile basketball players in the world, if he can’t show simple sportsmanship and take a loss with some grace it reflects poorly on the leauge and himself.

  • Z Posted: Jun.3 at 12:45 am
    There are PLENTY of things that bug me about Bron’s game because I hold him to a very high standard. There are things that bug me about his corporate image as well like not signing a petition against the chinese govt because he wanted a new market, never taking any position on anything, being too effing cute with jay-z, trying to force an on-camera friendship with kob when its obvious that he was rolling with dwade all summer and kob was rolling with melo, etc. However, I rarely get a chance to discuss those topics because guys like Myles have accused him in the span of 6 games where he avg 38-8-8 of : 1) not being clutch 2) quitting on his team ON the court 3) quitting on his team OFF the court 4) not knowing how to handle adversity 5) having no postgame 6) having no footwork. He even suggested that fouls SHOULD be called differently on him in order to make it fair because of his strenght. i WISH i was making this up!

  • Darksaber Posted: Jun.3 at 12:48 am
    Hey Krishan, for my money’s worth, the issue at hand is kinda stupid (in that i totally agree with the “exaggerate much” camp) but it was damn amusing to read all the same. And guys were bringing out the vocabulary on this one. Hubris, Leitmotiv and my favorite phrase of the month courtesy of Z: “a fraudulent intellectually dishonest bigot”. Say it loud, Z!

  • Darksaber Posted: Jun.3 at 12:51 am
    Z is on a roll. So glad i’m not the only one seeing the M.Brown bigotry. Oh well.

  • Z Posted: Jun.3 at 12:59 am
    Peter B had just added bad teammate so we’re at 8. and there was even talk of him being selfish AND passing the ball too much. by the same commenters. what i’m saying is that the hate is getting so out of control that it’s hard for me to discuss things that actually freaking matter about him. i think he jumps too much on his J and he’s a much better shooter when he takes set shots from deep. i’d actually like him to completely erase the contester 3-pointers from his repertoire unless the game is on the line. that’s how jkidd shot 40% from deep this year. i’d like him to get lower when he dribbles, esp on his crossovers. i’d like him to fight screen mores and not take the easy way out, he’s strong enough to stick his leg between the screen and the dribbler (they never call the foul when your leg is already thru, they’ll let you bodycheck the screener a little), i applaud him for chasing down sure dunks and not worrying about finishing on a poster to try to save two points for his team, i like the fact that he shortened the motion on his j making less room for error, i hate his ‘heat checks’ when he hits two or three jumpers in a row, i’d like him to make up his mind sooner when he gets the rock and not stall for 3-4 seconds near the half court line (or maybe is actually catching his breath? idk). these are all things that i’d love to discuss on bron related threads. ut it’s rarely possible because people like to take it to the extremes. and just for fun, i’d like him to ditch the headband. beven if you absolutely hate the guy, he’s still 1a or 1b in the L. it’s not possible to have an interesting convo when some commenters talk about him like he’s charlie villanueva.

  • Z Posted: Jun.3 at 1:02 am
    darksaber, i’d come up with even better lines if slam at a thread in french! gnite folks.

  • Z Posted: Jun.3 at 1:02 am
    had*

  • Darksaber Posted: Jun.3 at 1:28 am
    ah, oui? pas mal, Z.

  • Adam Sweeney Posted: Jun.3 at 3:55 am
    Maybe this will put LeBron’s poor decision into perspective. David Stern wants to talk to him about it. I’d say that qualifies it as important. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4224350
    It of course isn’t the end of the world, but it is worth discussing.

  • Krishan Posted: Jun.3 at 5:12 am
    Hey Z, I like your points about Bron on your 12:59 comment. But how different are they from Myles’? I’m not taking sides with a fellow Laker fan, lest someone bring that up, but to me both yours and Mr. Brown’s views are legit. I wouldn’t actually call what he said “hating”, they were just simply objective observations. Although he does nitpick on Bron’s game more, I wouldn’t say that he was exaggerating. And I would expect everyone to be asleep right now, so I would just like to add f*ck the international time line.

  • CLydeSays Posted: Jun.3 at 6:39 am
    An SI.com writer is speculating that the walk off was strictly done to send a message to Cavs management. I can buy that, but wouldn’t there be a better way to do it? Don’t comment on your contract or roster when asked.

  • Freedom Fries Posted: Jun.3 at 7:42 am
    When good blogs go bad – Lebrongate 09

  • Z Posted: Jun.3 at 7:59 am
    Darksaber, ouais j’te jure, t’as même pas idée. Krishan, I’m calling Myles a hater for his whole body of work. Just go on about any thread on Bron on this website, I don’t need to copy-paste. The reason why I poke fun of him is that he says things like ‘I only call him Kang to put a southern twist to it’.

  • Darksaber Posted: Jun.3 at 9:02 am
    Oh lord no, the Emperor has requested the young Padawan to be brought to his chambers. Darth Stern is gonna give Bron a “stern” warning. Well, MJ (Gambling-gate for example) got that treatment a few times too, so yet another step in the direction of being a legend for LBJ, i guess.

  • Mansonovic Posted: Jun.3 at 10:01 am
    And yet he hasn’t pulled in the refs for their truly shocking performances in the playoffs. Yeah, good to see you’ve got your priorites set, boss man.

  • Esco Posted: Jun.3 at 11:28 am
    Lol @ Krishan and Darksaber. I heart frenchies like myself. Vous êtes tous marrants les mecs. It was a fµcking handshake. Most of you guys have left a game without shaking the opponent’s hand when you lost. This is ridiculous.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Jun.3 at 1:36 pm
    1)He missed 5 FT in the fourth quarter of game 3. He turned the ball over 7 times in the 4th/OT of Game 4. They lost both games.
    2)Ive already referenced the stats from Game 6′s second half compared to his performance in the 4th of Game 5. There was a big difference in his approach to the game. Im not crazy or hating to infer that he may have stopped trying once he saw all hope was lost.
    3)Leaving your teammates to answer questions about the end of their season by themselves is embarassing and in poor taste. Please acknowledge that.
    4)I merely questioned his ability to handle adversity because as others have noted, it wasnt the act in itself that was so egregious, but his sleeping on it and coming back with that clearly flawed rationale for his actions. Im not crazy or hating to contend that we wont know how he will handle bigger things until they arise. You think they wont come and thats fine.
    5)Whatever post game he has is very basic and hardly suitable for a player of his capabilities. It needs work.
    6)Hes been in the league six years and is without question its most notorious traveller. He was called for a late game travel in on of the first two home games, he travled on his assist to Delonte and he was called for a few other traveling calls in the series. And this is just during the ECF. His footwork needs work.
    7)He clearly takes advantage of his size, strength and speed to muscle his way past weaker defenders and when they ‘fight back’ theyre called for the foul. I simply wanted them to be able to defend him physically since he initiates the contact.

  • Jackie Moon Posted: Jun.3 at 7:48 pm
    What Myles wrote.

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  • mendeezy Posted: Jun.23 at 4:54 pm
    this is dumb. i didn’t read the whole article, but i read enough. i agree with lebron. getting blown out like that in game 6 must have been a horrible feeling, considering the season they had. when michael jordan and the bulls got beat by the pistons back in the day, they didn’t shake hands and congratulate each other. granted they were big rivals, but still it’s a very similar situation now. i’m a big lebron fan, but i always try to be fair with any argument i make. in this case, i agree with him. i bet the team agreed as well.

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