Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 am  |  212 responses

Heavy is the Crown for King James

We’re all witnesses… to the first chink in the King’s armor.

by Adam Sweeney

For the past year, things have been golden for LeBron James. But after the Cleveland Cavaliers’ unceremonious departure from the NBA Playoffs was followed by James walking out without congratulating the opposing Orlando Magic, speaking to the media  or staying to talk to his teammates, it appears that for the first time in his NBA career a bit of the shine has worn off the King’s crown.

The moment would normally be dismissed if not for the fact that James is widely known as one of the most accessible and down to Earth players in the game. In his defeat weLeBron James weren’t witnesses to any of that. We were instead treated to a rare instance in which James was human.

“It’s hard for me to congratulate somebody after you just lose to them. I’m a winner. It’s not being a poor sport or anything like that. If somebody beats you up, you’re not going to congratulate them. That doesn’t make sense to me. I’m a competitor. That’s what I do. It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.”

That was how James inexplicably tried to justify his bad attitude to the media the day after the Game 6 loss when a simple, “I was disappointed in losing. I should have congratulated the Magic and my teammates for a great season. Even Nike LeBron puppet knows that,” would have gone a long way toward saving face. And wearing an all-white Yankees hat while he did it? Very nice touch. But at least he sent Dwight Howard a congratulatory email, because that makes everything better. Doesn’t he know Superman is a Twitter fan?

James may be on his way to claiming the title of best player since His Airness, but he has a lot to learn when it comes to the unwritten rules of the game, namely that you always congratulate your opponent whether you win or lose. They teach you that at YMCA camps. In one fell swoop, LeBron gave an excuse for other ballers to punk out after a game. Somewhere a high school player that can jump out of the gym is saying, “If The Chosen One won’t give a hand pound, why should I?” And don’t come at me with the Charles Barkley “Athletes aren’t role models” arguments. When you watch the Denver Nuggets play and look in the seats to see children with fauxhawks and imitation tattoos on their arms in honor of Chris Andersen, the look and attitude of these players absolutLeBron Jamesely has influence on those that admire them.

That’s something James forgot this weekend. He represents more than just himself. Everything is being set in place for LeBron to be the face of this franchise and the NBA. That face can’t only appear when the Sun is out. Anybody can do campy choreographed stunts with teammates when you’re running through the League in the regular season, but how you respond in the face of adversity is when you truly show your character. The future $1 billion face of the Association can’t afford to use up his social currency with fans or teammates. Don’t be surprised if David Stern politely reminds him of this with a phone call.

And they won’t admit it, but there is no doubt that James’ act of silence hurt his teammates. Of course they won’t crack on the man who almost carried them to the NBA Finals. It’s understood that you don’t bite the hand that feeds you the rock. But you win and lose as a team, and not staying after the Game 6 loss only added to the pain that the team was feeling after such a stunning defeat. It also may have tainted the chemistry that was built in a season that is to be remembered, all things considered. If you are claiming to be the franchise player and team leader, you do not turn your back and let Boobie Gibson have to take the podium to answer questions about the end of your team’s season. Yes there are some people that will say, “Well his teammates should be under the magnifying glass. They’re the cats who let him down in the biggest series of the season, not vice versa.” It doesn’t work that way. If Kobe loses in the NBA Finals, he can’t put his headphones on, pat Adam Morrison on the back and say, “You step up and field these questions, Big Moustache.”

To top it all off, the Orlando Magic deserved better for their accomplishment. They exposed the Cavs for what they were and showed the world they were the superior team. Kobe did the same thing to the Denver Nuggets and Carmelo Anthony, who has been ripped before for his lack of leadership, shined by sharing congratulatory words and a hug with Bryant after the game. Even if Anthony never wins a ring, he showed how a true winner behaves in defeat.

Maybe LeBron should go watch some ESPN Instant Classic videos of the games between the Detroit Pistons and L.A. Lakers. Isiah Thomas and Magic Johnson always made sure to keep it cool with each other, even if they probably wanted to kill one another when the ball was in the air. On second thought, maybe we don’t need to go as far as those two did in pre-game salutes. Kisses aren’t necessary, but LeBron could have at least given the Magic players a handshake for their worthy accomplishment.

Isiah’s actually seen both ends of the sportsman’s spectrum and could tell you that it’s a bad idea to walk away without congratulating the victor. He learned that the hard wayLeBron James after pulling the “I’m taking my ball and going home” move when the Chicago Bulls swept Detroit in the Eastern Conference Finals. It should go without saying it but I will anyway. LeBron, you do not want your name in the same sentence as Zeke.

James can’t be so naive to act like he’s above the rules of sportsmanship. No great player before him has gone their career without a heartbreaking defeat. Jordan had them against the Pistons and Celtics. Kobe did as well against the same organizations in the NBA Finals and both players had enough respect for others to swallow their pride and accept their defeat with class. If hockey players can shake hands after literally throwing down their gloves and pounding each other in a game, you can be cool enough to be a good sport on the hardwood.

Don’t get the misconception that I’m asking for James to step down from his throne. All he needs to do is like Kanye said, occasionally bow in the presence of greatness, which is exactly what anyone on Orlando would have done if they had lost to Cleveland. There’s hardly anything to dislike about LeBron James. He loves and respects the history of the NBA. His game will carry him to the Hall of Fame and he will have plenty of banners to hang in the rafters, whether it’s in Cleveland or New York. In his play and through his charity work, he has proven to be as selfless a person as there is in the game. But he’s no Superman. The caped one will be playing in the NBA Finals Thursday against L.A. That isn’t what matters though. What does is that no matter how he tries to spin it, LeBron will never truly be a winner until he learns how to lose.

  • Add a Comment
  • Share
  • RSS

Tags: , , , , , , ,

  • http://www.manutd.com/ Z

    Time to pack sh!t up. Looking forward to duke it out in another thread about Bron disrespecting the city of Cleveland and tarnishing his legacy by sporting Yankees hat. or something to that effect.

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    I am Zool.

  • http://www.nba.com tealish

    Jukai: Maybe it has to do with LeBron being the biggest name in the NBA. Just a thought.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Lakers in 6.

  • TYRILLA

    Lebron walked out on his teammates not the magic GOODBYE Cleveland HELLO N.Y. cleveland better pull a rabbitt out of the hat B4 that contract is up or up is what LJ will b.

  • Max

    Let’s summarize who’s taken a good number of whacks at the pinata that is Lebron’s reputation post-Game 6: Myles Brown, Russ Bengtson, Adrian Wojnarowski, Ken Berger, Skip Bayless, Jemele Hill, Micheal Wilbon, Charley Rosen, Jay Mariotti, and even Brendan Haywood (!!). I assume Isiah and Deshawn are writing editorials as I post this. (I’m sure I’ve missed a few others — if I listed all the Laker and Magic scribes frothing with indignation, it would been out of control — but these were the loudest barkers at the time I checked).

    As I mentioned earlier, Rhoden is in a different league in his attention to nuance and context. The others hurt my ears and eyes, and allied together around the Lebron Takedown, they make the most interesting case of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” that I’ve seen in a while.

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    As I said before; this is the consequence of not letting the kid BREATHE. He is after all a human being. If there weren’t so many Super-haters, or so many foolish d!ck riders that are actually defending his (in which anybody that plays any actual sport knows, what he pulled says A LOT ABOUT HIM… PLEASE CONTINUE TO STUNT LIKE IT DIDN’T) behavior he may actually have the freedom to develop into the most awesome player alive.

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    I’ve read these posts with you guys bringing up all of these other players doing something they shouldn’t have outside of basketball; Your Lord and Savior seriously F’d up on 1 step closer to the biggest stage their is, in his PROFESSION, where it really matters. This won’t cement his legacy, but yeah; he’s Isiah status. You can blog about it forever, it won’t change that. Sorry.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    here we go again, another dude arguing against the thousands of non existent d!ck riders defending not shaking hands after a loss. do you come up with your own counter arguments in your false debates? READ THE COMMENTS. the issue is with the over dramatization of the ‘incident’ which is ridiculously benign when that’s the worst you can come up with as far as off court stuff for this dude. especially when you compare his ‘antics’ to those of other stars of his caliber. i won’t repeat the list, scroll up.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    and as somebody else pointed, nobody even remembers wade not shaking hands with the hawks. and it was like a month ago. to suggest that this will have any lingering effect on his legacy is laughable… at best.

  • Max

    And Myles, thank you for the kind words, and as with other SLAM writers, you are great when you are reasonable. The outburst that Z quoted above, though, was a little unhinged even by SLAM standards (though I’m sure there’s Ryan or is it Ryne hatefest somewhere I’ve suppressed in my memory). I guess I’ll have to get used to more crowing, though, since my pick is the Lakers for the Finals.

  • Sparker

    ah, jordan cried when he won his 1st chip. boys will be boys.

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    Wait, did you not just mention someone else other than LeBron Z? Did you just mention Wade? Thanks for validating my point.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    myles is actually a freaking good writer, he just turns into an intellectually dishonest bigot when talking about lebron. what’s even worse is that he will argue to his grave that he’s merely being objective. which actually makes him a fraudulent intellectually dishonest bigot. thankfully, he’s only like that when bron is the subject matter. otherwise, he’s a very gifted and witty journalist. i don’t know if i could give a better back handed compliment, that was my best effort right there.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    your point being that since this was done in the ecf its actually much worse than if it had happened in the 1st round? okay, that sounds reasonable to me. if that was your point. why does bron need to be my ‘lord and savior’ for me to consider this benign? can’t he just be my lord? why does he need to save me? i think you’re demanding a bit too much out of him.

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    Z; Well, my comment’s weren’t directly geared specific towards you; However, it was for everyone that had mentioned someone other than LeBron in their faults. I do understand favoritism, that is the essence of being a fan. But what he damn sure wasn’t benign. I remember in another LeBron argument you stating that you were 6’7 Z? Well assuming (just assuming) you play any sport, even casually, imagine busting somebody’s @$$… If it’s maybe a 2 on 2, game 11, and you score 9 out of 11 on the guy guarding you. The other guy on his team at LEAST nods his head to you and says “good game”; the guy you killed storms of the court pitifully and angrily. What are you tell your friends about that guy the next time you see him? “THAT GUYS A B$TCH!!!!” Z laughed, as he tied his sneakers tightly. Now I’m just saying, multiply that by a Billion.

  • Myung

    I hate the phrase “chink in the King’s armor,” but that’s just me.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    i get that jay. i’m not even arguing that it wasn’t the right thing to do. it wasn’t the right thing to do, point blank. lebron james is a sore loser and he should’ve faced the music. what i argue is that story was completely blown out of proportion. i’ve played hundreds (prolly thousands?) of organized basketball games from junior high up to college. can’t say that i shook hands with the opposition after every defeat. it’s human nature, sometimes it stings and you deal with it the wrong way. i don’t think he disrespected the magic and i don’t think the magic feel disrespected. he did email dwight that same night (his words). i’m pretty sure that there won’t be any bad blood between those two except an healthy rivalry between two great players. / the comments here about how this is the ‘true nature’ of bron are just so far fetched that it makes me think that some were DYING for him to have a slip up. especially the writer who goes by the nom de plume of myles brown.

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    I get what your saying. I’m not waiting for LeBron to slip up; I’m waiting for him to get his many championships in which I’ll know he’s gonna get. I’ve got my favorites too, but I try to stay as objective as I can. It was just frustrating to see guys on here use other players faults as meat-sheilds to block the fire of LeBron’s faulty behavior being pointed out. This’ll be mentioned in LeBron’s Sportcentury episode, but I’m sure it’ll be in the first 20 minutes with the remainder being about his long dominance of the league. I just don’t wanna see him too built up (or too torn down) before he gets there.

  • that dude

    There’s still about 2 days till Game 1, what the hell are we suppose to talk about till then?

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Lets wait until he wins to say he’s going dominate the league for a long time…

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    it would be shocking if he doesnt, not impossible, but shocking nonetheless. if you had to bet your life on it would you bet on him winning a couple of ‘ships when it’s all said and done or not winning a couple of ‘ships? one could also argue that, when the lowest ranking you can get from some people is 1b, you’re already dominating the league.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    I’ve spent the last 45 minutes or so reading all these posts–rarely do I do that–and here’s my 2 cents: MEH!

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    (Charles Barkley…) First of all, thank you. And first of all, Im not dying for anyone to slip up, Ive just seen this movie too many times is all. We all know how our media sells the ascent of an athlete until there is no more positivity to sell and then they quickly look to document his downfall. We also know that our media loves to sell us the next all time great just as much. Ive always held fast in two things: 1) That LeBron James rapid ascent to superstardom was practically inevitable due to a number of factors, primarily the climate that Jordan created, the void that Kobe left post Colorado and James undeniable talent. He was the first pro ready high school wing player ever and he not only fulfilled the hype, he exceeded it. This meant that the bar needed to be reset, that expectations needed to be furthered and in my opinion they were pushed to an unreasonable level. Any basketball fan is well within their boundaries to acknowledge that LeBron James is the single most unpredcidented physical specimen in the history of the game and that he has every tool to become its greatest player. However this hyperbole surrouding him is completely discarding the process that other players had to go through to become the greatest. I lived in Chicago, was in Chicago Stadium and can assure you that there was nothing but doubt surrounding Jordan and his ability to make his teammates better, shed his lust for scoring and win a title. Even though he had an MVP to his name, there was still healthy debate as to whether he was the best player in the league, much less close to becoming the best of all time until he began to win titles. I believe wholeheartedly that leBron James can win titles. But to treat them as though theyre merely letters to be tacked on his jacket in my opinion is to demean them and the work it takes to acquire them. To treat his statistical dominance as a reflection of a complete game and skill set is to ignore the readily apparent flaws still in his game. Of course hes not a finished product, but by that same token he never will be if hes never challenged to. (Shaq would be an appropriate comparison of someone who couldve achieved much more) And not to bring you know who into this, but its been noted time and again this year how James, Wade and Melo came back this year with a newfound focus after seeing KB’s work ethic. If theyre just learning these things in their sixth season, then its a safe assumption that KB knows plenty of other things that they dont and may never know unless they put in the time and gain the experience he has. Which isnt promised. I could go on, but this is already long enough. Anyway 2) All these mofos think theyre untouchable. Theyre not. Anyone that big becomes a target and all it takes is one thing to go wrong for everything to come into question. As Ive stated earlier, it happened to Money, Magic, Kobe and countless others. These guys are far from perfect no matter what anyone will tell you and it almost seems like a rite of passage to have your feet put to the fire. I dont wish any of it on LeBron, but I wont be so naive as to think it will never happen. And thats the only reason that I say that his handling of small things makes me question how he would handle something larger. Z, you say that its not a given and what if it doesnt happen? Then Ill be surprised and wrong. But Id still contend that careers are short, nothing is a given and he has a long way to go to fulfill his promise.

  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Old School Baller

    Lebron is a great player on an good (but not great) team. The Cavs got the most out of their ability and if not for injuries to the Celtics, the Cavs would not have gotten that close. The play-offs have been a Lebron love fest with constant talk of how great he is and the inevitabilty of winning a Chip. And Lebron appears to be reading his own fan mail, given some of his post-game comments. The objective of the Magic was to win the series, which they did, not stop Lebron. The saddest part about the entire saga is that the media has spent more time talking about a player (Lebron) and a team (Cavs) who will be sitting at home this week and not enough time talking about the stars (Kobe, Gasol, Dwight, etc.) who deserve the spotlight.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    i agree with most of your last post, myles. i just can’t comprehend why it is so important to you that he goes throuh mj’s so-called ‘rite of passage’? why does it bother you that some people embrace him? my biggest point though it this: the expectations are not unreasonable at all. multiple mvp’s, multiple ‘ships, possibly being the GOAT are things that are within reach for LeBron James if he continues to ball and improve at this pace. why is that blasphemous? perhaps he doesn’t have kobe’s work ethic but he did improve a lot of his weaknesses ever since he came out. although you’re still stuck in 05, bron has now a postgame, an adequate 3-point shot, solid footwok and a very nice defender. you argue that he’s not clutch but if you would take the time to look at his numbers in crunch time and the number of game winning buckets he has provided for the cavs, you’d see that you’re very wrong on this one. of course, all of those facets could get better and his midrange j NEEDS to get better. but i wouldn’t question the work ethic of someone that has improved every year since he came to the L. MJ is the ONLY comparison for his resume at his age.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    two more things: 1- i don’t believe you when you say that you don’t want him to go through trials and tribulations because you’re always giddy as eff whenever a) he loses b) he slips up c) someone else is questioning/doubting/scolding. always. say what you will but your comments in these very threads suggest otherwise. 2- lebron has lost on a bigger stage (aka the finals) and handled it quite well. he has had no major (if any) off the court incident that i’m aware of. he has had teammates (namely hughes and gooden) that were DYING to be thrown under the bus. it didn’t happen. i don’t know how not shaking hands after this ecf would lead you or anyone to doubt his ability to handle adversity. you could argue that out of the superstars of the nba, he prolly has the most squeaky clean image outside of maybe dwight. in short, i’m not worried.

  • Krishan

    I can’t believe how an objective observation of an aberrant event could be misconstrued as subjective posturing. I guess when you’ve set your telescopic sights, expecting to find a phantom, distant object, you can’t help but fall off the cliff that’s in front of you.

  • Don

    i love lebron and mo, but what bron did was well, really unsportmanlike.

    and um, no i don’t think 23 quit, he could have scored 20 straight points, it wouldn’t matter, Cavs can’t stop howard on the other end, they would still have lost.

    i find it curious though that mo williams was passing up open threes.

    lebron needed him. mo didn’t respond.

  • http://www.nba.com tealish

    Z: Your outrage at the outrage would be more appropriate if Bron had only skipped out on the handshake and media. But I think what you’re ignoring or at least casting off into a lesser level of significance, is how LeBron came back 24 hours later — undoubtedly given some PR advice — and still choice to defend his actions as he did. It’s not a competitor’s “heat of the moment” thing. This is his mindset. He actually still believes he did nothing wrong. *That* is what’s startling and unless I’m missing a later retraction or clarification statement from Bron, it is what continues to startle and disappoint.

  • http://www.nba.com tealish

    chose*

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    To people somehow still dissing Kobe, when this is about LeBron, know this:
    In the world of basketball, solely basketball, being a poor sport is worse than whatever things players might have done in their past.
    Now, LeBron is one of my favorite players, but even I have to admit that it was a bad decision on his part. I know he didn’t intend to come across as a bad sport or anything, but that’s what it came down to. His disappointment and emotions got the best of him, simple and plain.
    Not as big a deal as people think, but at the same time he should face responsibility for what he did.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Z: Correct me if I’m wrong: You defend LeBron no matter what, straight up. Myles attacks him no matter what, straight up. So both of you shouldn’t complain about the ‘onesidedness’ of the other’s arguments.

  • rainman10

    Russ, Eboy…you guys are the reason I continue to read these threads.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Surprisingly, co-sign Max.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    WOW, I can’t believe I’m saying this… Co-sign Jukai 12:32 pm. I like you SLAM guys, but seriously, what he said was pretty much on point. And I would never agree with Jukai unless I had to, if you know what I mean.

  • KBlair2689

    Okay, I have a question. In 2007 when the Cavs were swept by the Spurs, did Lebron avoid the media then? bc i don’t think he did…

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com Dacre

    I’ve read and re-read this post; I was enthralled and dumbfounded by the sheer viscosity of reactions to LeBrons actions during the close-out of the series and I noticed something… TWO PARTICULAR STANCES: If you were in anyway representative of the media or somewhat mature about sportsmanship you basically decided that Lebron made a social faux par (thats a pretty big motsa ball out there Jerry…), hopefully speculating that he see’s the ripple effect this can have on his reputation and his rolemodel-ness and just thinks a little clearer, BUT I also noted a 2nd group that DUG THEIR CLAWS IN AND TORE SHREDS OFF HIM, I call this 2nd group “Kobe Bryant fans”.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    hello kids, first off: this was one of the best comments sections to read in a long time here. Especially considering how detractors&supporters of LBJ usually go after one another on these posts. Eboy was a voice of reason and by his standards, quite even keeled, M. Brown did what he usually does when given a chance to discredit Bron and Max had some fantastic comments. We even witnessed (ha, yes i did) the return from exi…i mean illness of Ryan. And Z doing his thing as well as Jukester (was there a Myung sighting in here too?). And hardly any insults too, wonderful read.

  • Krishan

    It would be so awfully nice if a lebron incident didn’t devolve into a kobe discussion by the way

  • Krishan

    And darksaber, if I could play the part of devil’s advocate: yes it was an good back-and-forth comments section. But what I can’t wrap around it is that there are almost 200 comments regarding a failed handshake. I don’t know if that’s good or just downright stupid.

  • Peter B

    We now see lebron for what he truly is, his hubris and arrogance is astonishing. He has no class whatsoever. It was bad enough that he walked of the court without congratulating the Magic, but to follow that up with that stupid comment about not being able to shake hands with the person that beats you up really took the biscuit.

    “The King” is as contrived as his undeserved nickname, the claim that he is the best team mate in the league has proven to be patently false, a great team mate doesn’t abandon his team mates at their lowest point in the season.

    Until he changes his attitude I simply can not root for this guy to win a chip. He claims to be winner, high school championships don’t count in the NBA lebron!

  • Peter B

    Krishan, lebron is the one of the most high profile basketball players in the world, if he can’t show simple sportsmanship and take a loss with some grace it reflects poorly on the leauge and himself.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    There are PLENTY of things that bug me about Bron’s game because I hold him to a very high standard. There are things that bug me about his corporate image as well like not signing a petition against the chinese govt because he wanted a new market, never taking any position on anything, being too effing cute with jay-z, trying to force an on-camera friendship with kob when its obvious that he was rolling with dwade all summer and kob was rolling with melo, etc. However, I rarely get a chance to discuss those topics because guys like Myles have accused him in the span of 6 games where he avg 38-8-8 of : 1) not being clutch 2) quitting on his team ON the court 3) quitting on his team OFF the court 4) not knowing how to handle adversity 5) having no postgame 6) having no footwork. He even suggested that fouls SHOULD be called differently on him in order to make it fair because of his strenght. i WISH i was making this up!

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Hey Krishan, for my money’s worth, the issue at hand is kinda stupid (in that i totally agree with the “exaggerate much” camp) but it was damn amusing to read all the same. And guys were bringing out the vocabulary on this one. Hubris, Leitmotiv and my favorite phrase of the month courtesy of Z: “a fraudulent intellectually dishonest bigot”. Say it loud, Z!

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Z is on a roll. So glad i’m not the only one seeing the M.Brown bigotry. Oh well.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Peter B had just added bad teammate so we’re at 8. and there was even talk of him being selfish AND passing the ball too much. by the same commenters. what i’m saying is that the hate is getting so out of control that it’s hard for me to discuss things that actually freaking matter about him. i think he jumps too much on his J and he’s a much better shooter when he takes set shots from deep. i’d actually like him to completely erase the contester 3-pointers from his repertoire unless the game is on the line. that’s how jkidd shot 40% from deep this year. i’d like him to get lower when he dribbles, esp on his crossovers. i’d like him to fight screen mores and not take the easy way out, he’s strong enough to stick his leg between the screen and the dribbler (they never call the foul when your leg is already thru, they’ll let you bodycheck the screener a little), i applaud him for chasing down sure dunks and not worrying about finishing on a poster to try to save two points for his team, i like the fact that he shortened the motion on his j making less room for error, i hate his ‘heat checks’ when he hits two or three jumpers in a row, i’d like him to make up his mind sooner when he gets the rock and not stall for 3-4 seconds near the half court line (or maybe is actually catching his breath? idk). these are all things that i’d love to discuss on bron related threads. ut it’s rarely possible because people like to take it to the extremes. and just for fun, i’d like him to ditch the headband. beven if you absolutely hate the guy, he’s still 1a or 1b in the L. it’s not possible to have an interesting convo when some commenters talk about him like he’s charlie villanueva.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    darksaber, i’d come up with even better lines if slam at a thread in french! gnite folks.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    had*

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    ah, oui? pas mal, Z.

Advertisement