Wednesday, September 23rd, 2009 at 8:00 am  |  101 responses

Top 50: Caron Butler, no. 28

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Gregory Dole

All you need to know about James Caron Butler is his nickname “Tough Juice,” given to him by his former Washington Wizards coach Eddie Jordan. He is tough, a product of a difficult childhood, bouncing in and out of the prison system on many occasions before his 15th birthday. In contCaron Butlerrast to his problematic youth, Butler’s game is solid and well rounded, the result of having been a post player in high school before he slimmed down to play wing.

You won’t read much about Butler in the media, other than his predilection for chewing McDonald’s and Burger King straws (and the odd Cheesecake Factory straw). And he isn’t the sort of player that is celebrated because some quantitative analyst from MIT has found data to suggest that he is much better than he would appear.

Butler is one of those players who fly under the radar and get the job done. You want 20, 6 and 4? Done, done and done. The Butler did it along with very few else but don’t expect basketball fans around the world to discuss his merits all that often.

He is in what you might call the BMW class of NBA players. Very high performance results but not particularly flashy. Butler can throw down spectacular dunks, some of which live posthumously on YouTube and are worth checking out again or for the first time. He can cross over guys on the perimeter and beat defenders off the dribble, the basketball equivalent of a decent 0-60 mph acceleration.

Similar to a BMW, this class of player is so consistently good that they are almost boring. Better to get an Italian roadster that looks special, sort of like a 7-1 former ballerina from Tbilisi, Georgia named Nikoloz Tskitishvili, who was drafted five spots ahead of Butler in 2002. Nice eye for talent there, Kiki Vandeweghe.

Enough automotive talk.

One of the more underrated post-season teams was the 2003-2004 Miami Heat. This team had no business being a playoff contender, only showing signs of life at the end of the season when they won 17 of their final 21 games. For a brief time, they played like they belonged with the best in the League. Butler showed up in Game Seven of the first round series, giving his team 23 and 9 to beat the New Orleans Hornets. This team had heart, a trait that seems to be a part of every team Butler plays on.

And who can forget Butler’s 2006 performance in against the Cleveland Cavaliers. His 20 rebounds in Game 6 almost put the Wizards over the top, if only his last second trifecta had gone down. Let us not forget that Cleveland won the series by the slimmest of margins, squeaking out three victories by one point in the best-of-seven set.

In 2008, with Gilbert Arenas out, Butler defined the expression “man up.” He willed the Wizards into a Game Six before the Cavs prevailed.

It appears as though Butler has all the intangibles. I’ll have to ask Gil the next time I bump into him on the street somewhere. Butler’s teammates enjoy playing with him. He inspires their loyalty. He is the guy who gets rebounds and doesn’t force the ball on offense. Some might suggest that he doesn’t shoot the ball enough, which makes Butler a perfect teammate for Agent Zero.

These aforementioned qualities would have made Butler the perfect running mate for Kobe Bryant. Unfortunately, Lakers’ resident personnel guru Mitch Kupchak thought Kwame Brown was a better bet, sending Butler to the Wizards in 2005.

That trade is worth dwelling on for a beat. The Lakers shipped away a wing player who can defend, rebound, shoot, and defer to the team’s main scorer. Weren’t they looking for one for several years until Trevor Ariza showed up?

Not insignificantly, Kobe loved him some Tough Juice, but even the mighty Black Mamba or whatever couldn’t keep Butler around. And we wonder why the best basketball player of all time to be named after a variety of beef was so ticked off at the Lakers management?

Perhaps the pride of Racine, WI is given more credit than he deserves and thus the decent ranking on this here SLAMonline list. If anything, it seems hard to find anyone who has a negative opinion of Butler. The story that circulated sometime back of Butler showing up at some suburban teen’s birthday party is one for the ages.

Explaining the decision to attend Anthony Fadel’s birthday party, Butler said: “I am not anti-social. It is good to be around fans.” While unrelated to his talents on the court, Butler gets “it”. His reputation has been built by being one of us mortals. He has remained an everyday guy, even though the basketball system has given him ample opportunity to be some rich snot that disconnects from his fans and reality in general. For that, maybe he earns more praise than he should.

Butler is also often injured. He hasn’t played more than 75 games since he was an L.A. Laker in ‘03-04. Perhaps as a result of injuries, Butler doesn’t get to the free throw line as much as he could even though he shoots a stellar 85% from the stripe.

Reports are that this off-season he stopped drinking soda, switching to water and homemade juices from his juicer. Is he taking a page out of the aged fitness guru Jack Lalanne?

Maybe these juices put the tough back in the “Tough Juice.”

I can’t think of any other worthy criticism. Butler is a talented player that any team would want. If he figures out how to stay healthy, expect Butler to crack SLAMonline’s top 25, well into the next decade.

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’09-10 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • Michael

    i actually think this is a little too low for caron, outstanding all round player

  • http://www.slamonline.com Klav

    *co-sign TADOne. I’m sick of people just name dropping just for the sake of name dropping. Speak on what you know, otherwise just don’t say anything at all.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    It’s sad to think that just a year ago…..SLAM’s website and it’s commenting community was the best in all of on-line sports reporting. The site is still fine……the rest of it? Well, just look above ^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • christian wells

    Good spot 4 caron i like him and he’s better than ginobili,and i’m not jus say’n that bcuz i hate the spurs

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ SOFOKLIS SCHORTSIANITIS(down to…. 150 kg!!!)

    @Eboy_____:exactly!!!!(once again your argumentation was solid…)

  • http://lacuevacrosscountry.com Slick Nick Da Ruler

    Like I said, I prefer small forwards, particularly those with Caron’s build, to average about 8 rebounds a game. I remember when Rashard Lewis was in Seattle he was killed for being weak on the boards and he was putting up seven a game from the three. I remember Melo getting killed for putting only seven boards a game.
    Small forwards should get eight boards a game in my opinion unless they are undersized. Caron is not undersized, thus I think he should be getting around eight boards a game, not six.
    Greek dude, your puerile rants are annoying, but a necessary side effect of free speech.
    Carry on.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Sorry, that last comment by Slick Nick about rebounding was from me.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I did a historical search to see if my expectations of Butler were off base, and found that I appear to be expecting too much from him. Given the stats of some of the all-time greats, six rebounds appears to be normal for modern small forwards.

  • onlyclipfanonslam

    Allen… make a list of SFs that average even 7 rebounds a game. Wait I’ll do it for you. 1. Crash 2. Bron. SF is a wing position, not really a premier position for banging the boards. Your expectations are too high, and if you think they are not your view on the game is skewed.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ SOFOKLIS SCHORTSIANITIS(down to…. 150 kg!!!)

    @Allenp….:stop this back & forth (that is agonizing all of us) and give us once and for all the answer that we are waiting desperatelly: YOU WILL FINALLY INCLUDE HIM AT YOUR FANTASY TEAM OR NOT????!!!! (man, i love this kid….)

  • TADOne

    Allen, the only SF who averaged more than 8 rebounds per game last season was Shawn Marion, who also moonlights as a PF. After that, the next highest was Gerald Wallace averaging 7.8, Bron at 7.6, Melo at 6.8, Durant at 6.5, Marvin Williams at 6.3, and then Caron at 6.2. Sure, Caron could average more boards, but his other stats make up for that.

  • http://www.utjazzblog.com Utah Jazz Blog

    I love Butler’s game and wish the Jazz could find a way to trade for him. Unfortunately I doubt the Wizards would want Boozer (the obviousy trading chip) since they already have Jamison. They don’t need 2 PFs who don’t play defense.

  • http://www.utjazzblog.com Utah Jazz Blog

    I’ve always liked Caron Butler’s game and wished the Jazz could find a way to trade for him. I doubt the Wizards would want Boozer (the obvious trade piece)since they already have Jamison. You don’t need two PFs who don’t play defense.

    (Sorry if this ends up being a duplicate post… I clicked submit but it never showed up)

  • tavoris

    ridiculous how some people carry the comments. Caron Butler deserves this spot. Not the best SF in the league, but probably the most complete SF in the league(until Bron fixes that J and actually plays consistent defense outside of blocking shots). kobesbesfriend is delusional. sofowhatthefuckever doesn’t realize that you don’t end a command with question marks. that is all.

  • tavoris

    sofoklis, you don’t end commands with question marks. Also, since you are writing your thoughts, using parentheses to identify your thoughts is unnecessary-in additona to being improper. That is all.

  • tavoris

    FAIL that my comment about his lack of grammatical etiquette has grammatical errors. fml

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ SOFOKLIS SCHORTSIANITIS(down to…. 150 kg!!!)

    @tavoris….:you’ve read “Ulysses” ? (Does even the name James Joyce rings a bell to you ?) You read it and then we talk….that is all.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Greek dude
    I don’t play fantasy sports. I find them ridiculous.
    TADONE and Clips fan
    I stand corrected. Clearly me thoughts about what a small forward should be doing are not in line with what is actually happening on the court. I’m not sure if this is because my expectations are unreasonable, or because the game has just changed.
    No matter, I was wrong.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ SOFOKLIS SCHORTSIANITIS(down to…. 150 kg!!!)

    @Allenp…:that was quite a mature stance. Hats off to you sir.

  • Anony Mous

    Guys who say players aren’t deserving of their ranking play NBA 2K9 way too much. The list just shows how valuable players are to their teams, not how well they could run the ship by them self. Obviously he isn’t the 28th most talented player, but you have to account the intangibles. This is right where Butler should be. He’s like the prototypical Wingman that doesn’t demand shots and does everything else with a bit of flare.

  • tavoris

    SOFOKLIS, not only have I read it, but I’ve read the Odyssey, Aeneid and the Iliad as well…done quite a few Greek & Latin translations, as well. One that comments on the intelligence of others (negatively) often is trying to cover for their own “deficiencies”. Try it on somebody else’s watch.

  • tavoris

    Allenp, don’t sweat it. 8 rpg is NOT unreasonable to expect from a prototypical SF in ANY era. Butler rebounds pretty well from his position, and it’s even more apparent when you see his rebounding prowess during the game. The numbers are misleading, because while Lebron gets them with athleticism, and Wallace gets them wit hustle, Butler gets them with positioning and smarts. That’s precisely why he was STILL as pretty good rebounder in an injury-plagued season.

  • TADOne

    Allenp: I wasn’t trying to show you up. I honestly wasn’t certain myself where the SF’s in the L ranked and decided to look it up.

  • http://iliveinphoenixidiots.com nbk

    whats our one rule? E.L.E

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Rondooo……???

  • http://iliveinphoenixidiots.com nbk

    good question Moose

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Yeah. I mean, Rajon is better than everyone 50-34, but he’s not worth this. Something is wrong.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Klav

    nbk, everbody love everybody? I forgot where that’s from. Semi-Pro?

  • http://iliveinphoenixidiots.com nbk

    yeah

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ SOFOKLIS SCHORTSIANITIS(down to…. 150 kg!!!)

    BREAKING NEWS!!!!: The moment that most everybody(?) was waiting for is about to come!! “Mama” finally answered your prayers and i was just informed (very politely)through e-mail that i have to “tone down my comments, follow the guidelines & stop disrupting the conversation” or else….since i honestly believe that i do nothing more than (occasionally) answer to posters that have repeatedly ridiculed my opinions-country-etc i do not plan to change my ways of writing(i have to admit that teasing some of you is a part of the fun here,of course that doesn’t mean i believe all i am writing). So, in case i never “see” you again i want to HONESTLY thank EVERYBODY for the wonderfull time i had in this forum. At the same time i have to thank SLAM (i understand the reasons why some things have to happen, i would maybe ban me if i were you) for giving me the oportunity to freely present my biased-stupid-whatever views on bball. As i’ve told in the past, in case ANYBODY of the guys here passes by Bucharest or Athens can come and find me (SLAM can make the link ,i guess). Have a nice NBA season and keep balling(my suggestion is to do it in reality, nothing against videogames,i’ve never played-not my age, i just find it more healthy physically & mentally) !!!!!!!! Once again, thank you.Good night.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Tad and Tavoris
    Man, I don’t take it personally when I’m wrong. We’re here to talk basketball, I’m not going to be right all the time, no matter what I think.
    Ain’t no hard feelings.

  • Michael

    i love it when we get to this part of the list and it becomes painfully obvious someone of note will be left off

  • Sarah

    Not better than Manu.

  • Sarah

    And I like Caron. But he’s just not.

  • Dyce

    Caron is solid deserves the spot.

  • jdn41

    d rose going to be way overated and rondo too, granger and durant are like pandora’s box good players on really bad teams and i just can’t accept anyone with a top 25 player status in the nba and never have hopes of making the playoffs for another couple of seasons that to me is just disturbing im starting to think jose calderon won’t be on this list as well

  • tavoris

    one poster up here posted the best news EVER…oh, and @Allenp, you are right so consistently, that your retraction was a little jarring.

  • http://nba.com nba

    Ginobili is better than Butler – undisputable.

  • ben hunter

    BUTLER OVER GINOBILI???????????????? this is a travesty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://aol.com jayweezy

    this guy has no credibility… Caron Butler was a laker in the 04-05 season and none of u guys even picked it up. ahaha great basketball fans you are. you guys sure are intelligent

  • http://aol.com jayweezy

    Caron was actually a laker in the 04-05. this guy has a lot of credibility…. along with you people who didnt pick it up. this whole page seems like a big joke to me

  • http:///realcavsfans.com Anton

    “Butler showing up at some suburban teen’s birthday party” Ah, young Jedi, Master Mamba has taught you well.

  • Player

    Caron Butler is a great player.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    I don’t understand the IQ of a lot of guys commenting here… Lets break something down for everyone. The rankings found on here are for THIS PAST SEASON ONLY. It’s PURELY a stats/performance driven list. Gilbert will not feature on this list. So work it out/calm down/chill out. Caron was just outside of being an allstar this year, so anything within the top 30 is fine for this guy.

  • rikson

    Just checked the sats of rick fox -> much worse than I thought….

  • Solon

    Captin Jack >>>> Caron Butler

    He is getting hated on (like all Warriors) and he better make the list. He is better then everyone 35-50.

    Top SF in the League:
    In League by himself:
    LeBron
    The Next in Line:
    Melo
    KD
    The Rest:
    Granger
    Pierce
    Stack Jack
    Butler
    Gerald Wallace
    R Jeff
    Turkey
    Artest

  • LeoneL

    @Eboy, maybe Slam should make people register before they can leave comments. It won’t stop them from saying idiotic things but it would be easy to ban them…again…and again.

    @Dacre: “Rankings are based solely on projected ‘09-10 performance.”

    So I guess SLAM is being just cautious thus putting Butler over the Wizards’ big two. If Agent Zero is indeed “back”, this projection is all wrong.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    The 5:42PM comment made my day.
    And when Slam finally releases it’s list of point rankings of how it all played out, it might only be 1 or 2 points separating Manu and Caron so chill.

  • K.a.

    sofo imaginary sparring with allenp is highly entertaining. I cracked up at, allenp as video game playing teenager stereotype. Off the top of my hat, 8rpg is a good number for average starting PF. 8 to 10 was good for pippen better game. Mostly he’d go for 18 to 20, 7-7. Jordan would go for 30-6-6. A defensive, non playmaking SF like Marion can go 8rpg and above but he’s exceptional at rebounding.

  • http://Gmail Akash Kaushal

    Caron is a good player but he needs to pass the ball more and find more open looks for his
    teammates.

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