Thursday, September 17th, 2009 at 8:00 am  |  115 responses

Top 50: Lamar Odom, no. 33

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Vincent Thomas / @vincecathomas

Initially, 50 players seems like a truckload of hoopers, doesn’t it? Like it’s not that exclusive of a group. So someone that we rank, say 33rd best, like Lamar Odom, almost seems like a slight, to me. It’s like, “Wait. There’s no way there are 33 players better than Lamar Odom! A do-it-all forward that’s a cross between Magic, Worthy and AC Green all the way down at No. Lamar Odom33?! Get real.”

But then again, some of you — maybe even most of you — may be reading this and blasting us for including Mar, at all. “”Wait. There’s no way that Odom is the XX best dude in the NBA. A do-it-all forward that’s a cross between Magic, Worthy and AC Green, but some games has about the same impact as Brian Cook?! Get real.”

That’s what’s most compelling about Odom’s current standing in the League. This season coming up is Odom’s 11th. After you ball for a whole decade in the League, your full career starts to congeal and Odom has basically cemented a rep. He’s no longer the youngster full of potential, he’s the versatile vet, a supreme X-Factor. But the term “X-Factor” isn’t necessarily a compliment when it’s handed to a 30-year-old ball player. Veiled in that moniker is the basic premise that no one knows what said player is gonna bring to the table each game.

So be it. That’s just how it goes for Odom. Over the years, he’s become one of the NBA’s more polarizing figures. Some love him, some can’t stand him. Even the cats that dig him a lot — like yours truly — can’t stand him sometimes. It’s not because he’s a bad dude. In fact, Odom is one of the most decent and thoughtful players in the League. Nah, Odom polarizes because, for some, he never lives up to their expectations; for others, it can be maddening to hear the constant frustrated barbs thrown his way. I tend to think that most of the Odom Hate is a lot of ridiculous projecting and sophomoric pettiness, but, I’d be a liar if I said it didn’t have, at least, some merit.

But then there’s idiocy, like the beginning of last season when fans and journalists insisted on calling Odom the fourth best Laker. That’s just the kind of unbelievably flawed thinking that you get from people bent on detracting from what Odom actually brings to the table. I mean, how could anyone seriously say that Bynum was a better ball player than Odom? In all honesty, there are some nights when Odom is L.A.’s second best player. Those nights when he’s subtly directing traffic, gobbling up almost any shot that caroms off the rim, bothering all types of shots from the weakside, scoring at just the right time. And that demeanor of his — what his detractors call being soft and passive — is what allowed him to blunt his game and ego for a larger goal, last season.

Toward the end of this past season, for one of my NBA.com columns, I fleshed out this term I like to use — Franchise Role Players. Here’s an excerpt germane to our inclusion of Odom in the SLAMonline Top 50…

“Last season, sometime in March [of '08] during one of Lamar Odom’s double-double strings, my boy and I came up with a term to describe a certain set of the League’s gifted performers. We call them Franchise Role Players (FRP). Odom, Tony Parker, Josh Smith and others are from the ilk that gave us the Dennis Rodmans and Dennis Johnsons of previous generations. They’re the complimentary players with very specific roles, assignments, responsibilities — whatever you want to call them — who perform these tasks with such impact that, on many nights, they are just as responsible for Ws as the stars that lead the teams. Don’t mistake them for the narrowly specialized, lower-impact “role players,” or the somewhat nondescript, low-consequence “get-in-where-they-fit-in” typical rotation players. Not even James Posey, a role-player poster boy, can claim inclusion in the FRP ranks.”

There may be 33, heck 43, other players that you’d rather start a team with, but there is not 33 better basketball players than Lamar Odom. There also isn’t 33 players of more value than Odom. Given that his double-doubles and facilitation is very responsible for making the Lakers favorites — and not just contenders — I’d have no problem with Odom cracking the Top 30. And if I really want to get crazy, I could go even more exclusive. Don’t tempt me.

Vincent Thomas is a columnist and feature writer for SLAM, a contributing commentator for ESPN and writes the weekly “From The Floor” column for NBA.com. You can email him your feedback at vincethomas79@gmail.com or follow him on Twitter at @vincecathomas.

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’09-10 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Because they both like sugar & calories, who knows? kobe’s friend might benefit from a “TRADE HIM (BACK) FOR SHAQ!” Or mention who he’d like instead of “Not Pippen so he sucks ODOMIZED!” but he only knows of Laker players.
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    New rules in every write up, going back on other rules. Adding to judging rules. Should have just went with top 50 MVP candidates? So nobody can really complain outside the top 10? or more like 5. Realistically, 3.
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    Danny Batman G, 30-25.
    ShaqWheel of Fortune, 25-19.
    Since you don’t know if you’re getting the ShaqReal Deal, or ShaqMeals on Wheels.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Money Monta, soon or not at all. Iguodala/G Wallace, I dunno.

  • Furious

    @ solon: Manu won’t make it cos “too injured”, then what is Arenas doing on the list?

  • COLT6

    I’m gettin tired of Sofo and his dimwitted comments. You for real? First you disrespect Allen Iverson by sayin he cannot ball anymore. Now you are tellin me that Odom deserves higher than #33? Iggy Hops and RJ are just for track & field? F#ckouttahere! Clearly your logic is as dull as your game outside the Greek National team. Think before you type next time, okay?

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ SOFOKLIS SCHORTSIANITIS(down to 130 kg!!!)

    @COLT6….:okay.

  • Harlem

    i dont get the LO hate,the guy gets the job done….sure he goes m.i.a at times but hes unselfish and plays hard,he never complains about anything,he just plays ball and hes one of the realist guys in the n.b.a,very down to earth……i guess u guy would rather have a ballhogin,selfish diva then a humble ballplayer

  • Harlem

    AND WHERES NATE ON THIS LIST………….(waiting 4 the hate)

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ SOFOKLIS SCHORTSIANITIS(down to 130 kg!!!)

    @COLT6….:one correction, i have NEVER said that A.I. cannot ball ‘anymore’.I have repeatedly said that he has never been an actual bball player in his whole life. There is a big difference ot this. Isaiah Thomas cannot ball anymore but he used to be a really real bball player.You dIDn’t have to see him play in the world championship to figure this out…same for A.I. those who know didn’t need to see him in the Olympics or in Denver and Detroit. Those situations only helped for the kids to wake-up a little bit….

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ SOFOKLIS SCHORTSIANITIS(down to 130 kg!!!)

    @Harlem…:Nate Archibald? He is retired since mid 80′s but if cartoon’s can make the list,then…you never know!!!

  • rikson

    The strongest part of odoms game, is that he is one of the last real allrounders. Thats why hes creating all kinds of problems for the enemy. And thats something that wont be shown through stats….

    “First you disrespect Allen Iverson by sayin he cannot ball anymore.” Are you allen – no?! Then get get fu(k outta here! Disrespect??? But there is some truth in Sofoklis words: AI has never been a real basketballer, hes more of a streetballer. You can see that in his moves and even more in his mentality… He was never really able to function in a system of 5 players. Hell, he only was succesfull when surrounded by defensive orientated players, cause he needs totaly freddom to work on an NBA court! Plzs Iggy = track and field – I love that metaphor *lol* Im not with you regarding jefferson, as hes got a really nice J….

  • Teddy-the-Bera

    LOL AI has never been a real basketballer. That really is the icing on the cake for the comments I’ve read by rikson and Sofo.

  • Shem

    Lamar Odom is not going to produce more then gilbert or allen or turk but to his team he is more valuable… i might say gil is a lil more valuable seeing how the wizards had awful seasons without him but still good spot for the candyman

  • Jamal

    I do not like Odom’s game at all. He is soft cannot play post d like varejao. Not even close to a better playmaker than biby. Your killing Bibby’s Image here. Odom 33 I dont think so. Odom 50 that seems more right.

  • josh

    Lamar is not a top 50 player. period. that is just ridiculous.

  • Eric

    Lamar is so versatile, its amazing that so many of you guys trash him. 14.5ppg 9rpg and 4apg to go with a block and a steal a agme for his career. he does it all. I say this spot is perfect.If you trash lamar odom, then trash josh smith. theya re the same player cept lamar can shoot way better and smith gets more blocks n steals.

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