Tuesday, September 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 am  |  198 responses

Top 50: Manu Ginobili, no. 29

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Adam Sweeney

Underrated. It might be the most overused word in sports. As hoop-aholics we always beat our chests and stand on the curb shouting about how our favorite player gets no love. Therein lies the roundball rub. Our arguments are often dismissed because of our allegiances. This case foManu Ginobilir Manu Ginobili’s greatness can’t be. Why? Because as a Houston native, I loathe the San Antonio Spurs. I can assure you that no bias exists here. I went to college twenty-five minutes away from San Antonio and had to listen every day about the San Antonio Spurs dynasty. I made it my mission to debunk the fantasies Spurs had about their team. The thing is that the more you examine Manu’s career, the better he becomes. In fact, Manu may be the most underrated, there’s that word again, player of our generation.

Fact: Kanye West can cry about how a VMA was robbed from Beyonce but one of the truly great steals in history came when the Spurs grabbed Manu Ginobili with the 57th pick in the 1999 NBA Draft. Let me throw out a stat, seeing as we spent the last few weeks drinking the champagne of greatness that was Michael Jordan’s career. Manu is only the second player ever to win a NBA Championship, Euroleague title and Olympic gold medal. But you still don’t get it.

Seeing is believing and anyone who saw the San Antonio Spurs fall apart in the playoffs against the Dallas Mavericks last year got a huge dose of how important Manu is to the team’s success. Say what you want about the addition of Richard Jefferson. Give deserved praise to Tim Duncan as the greatest power forward ever. Gasp at Tony Parker’s speed and emergence as a team leader. A run at an NBA title begins and ends with Manu Ginobili.

And what’s funny is that as NBA fans we only got a partial glimpse of the picture. Before he came to the Association, The Argentine was tearing it up in Argentina and the Italian League. MVPs? He’s got them, winning the 2001 Euroleague Final Four MVP. He was only voted one of the thirty-five greatest players ever but we don’t want to talk about that. The NBA is king, oh wait, except when Manu led Argentina to Gold in the 2004 Olympics. Yeah, he was the MVP of that also. Perhaps it’s Manu’s foreign origins that make us shy away from him. You make the call.

If that wasn’t enough, the most exciting player in S.A. is the first sixth man to win All-NBA honors. If Ben Gordon is worth over $50 million, what is Manu’s value? You can’t put a price on it. Unlike Gordon, who is at his best when he is coming off the bench, Manu has proven he could dominate as a starter. The stats don’t lie. In a five-game stretch as a starter last season, he averaged 34.4 points per game and 6.6 assists per game in 37.4 minutes per game. Efficiency, Manu is thy name.

How well-rounded is Ginobili’s offensive game? A New York Times article regarding Shane Battier, the defensive student of the game that he is, studied the very subject. Battier is given data to study every opponent. The results speak for themselves. “Manu Ginobili is a statistical freak: he has no imbalance whatsoever in his game,” the article offers. “There is no one way to play him that is better than another. He is equally efficient off the dribble as he is off the pass, going left and right and any spot from on the floor.” It’s true. You’re just as likely to get beaten by a quick slash to the lane as you are a bucket from behind the line when it comes to Ginobili. He can score from anywhere. On any other team he would be a perennial All-Star.

But it’s not about that. See, unlike other players who are too caught up in the “importance” of getting starter’s minutes (see Allen Iverson), Manu Ginobili kills ‘em softly any way the team needs him. He doesn’t mind letting Timmy and Tony have their names on the marquee, even though he could lead the team in points and assists. He just keeps on keeping on and counts the championship rings at the end of the day.

The word clutch has become synonymous with Kobe Bryant but it’s an undeserved association. Yeah, you guessed it, Manu’s the real heir to the last minute throne. Forbes did a study chronicling the top players in the last five minutes of a game including overtime. It wasn’t even close. Manu topped the list and shoots lights out at a 57.4% clip. Your boy Kobe? 44.8%. Do I have your attention yet?

The only thing that can stop Manu Ginobili is his health and he has suffered a few setbacks in the past few years. The 2008-2009 season ended unceremoniously for him as he had to shut it down with a stress fracture in his right distal fibula. That only means you’ll be sleeping on him this upcoming season, just like the majority of us have slept on the Spurs all these years. So when you are watching the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals next season, perhaps against the defending champion Lakers, don’t be shocked if Manu slaps the taste out of your mouth with a game-winning three. The quiet ones always sneak up on you. The funny thing is you’ll be the one left speechless. Manu Ginobili has been doing it his entire career and yet we still can’t find words to describe him. For now, underrated will have to do.

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’09-10 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • http://fjdklf.com Jukai

    Pardeep: So he was compared to Wade once in his life and that makes him not underrated? Are you insane?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Adam, Manu loved your article so much, he gave you a shout out on his Facebook Profile and linked to the story. That’s appreciation right there. Kudos, man.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    As for the story itself, great write-up, Adam. I loved the comparison to GOAT in terms of Achievement on all levels. (turn it around and MJ’s never won a Euroleague MVP, ha!). As a confessed Dirk-o-phile i feel it is my goal in Life to despise the San Antonio Spurs, and for a while, it was an easy achievement. (Kurt Thomas and Bowen on one team, too easy) Then they stole Findog from Dallas (nooo! i luv that guy), Tony Parker gave an interview on French TV two years ago with Eva & his family, impressed the Eff out of me and whoosh the irrational hate disappeared. Plus he put a 55 & 10 on the Wolves, a Stat Line that was one of the top 3 last season and just turned into this unstoppable, offensive machine on the court. Bowen Collector retired. Good riddance. Timmy has always been one of my favorite Sports stars, so quiet yet fiery, so controlled yet look at his eyes on court..dude is burning inside, true Champ. and now they brought in Antonio. McDyess, the rock, old school hair, old school stoism on court, productive even with multiple knee surgeries. Anytime i watch him, i am in awe. McDyess, role model. And of course, the zig zagging, flopping, best friends with Oberto force of nature from Argentina known to all as Manu. Now, this isn’t fair…. how the hell do i continue to generate hate for the Spurs when i damn admire damn near everyone of their players right now? (not you RJ)

  • Brad

    Manu is not underrated. His game (except for the flopping) is well respected by NBA fans and even more so by writers and broadcasters. International media and fans love him. Everyone is well aware of the fact that he has won championships at in the NBA, FIBA and Olypmics. Because he plays with Duncan, and to a much lesser degree Parker, because he’s an international player, and because he isn’t black, fans of his just tend to think of him as somehow underrated or underappreciated. You can see here in the posts, where so many people are complaining that he is being disrespected and should be (way) higher. The fact is, the majority of NBA fans/writers are in agreement: ‘Manu Ginobili is an awesome player, a winner, who really is underrated’. Does the fact that whenever people talk about him (non-flopping talk) they gush over him, and call him underrated, make him actually overrated? Yes.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    As for the story itself, great write-up, Adam. I loved the comparison to GOAT in terms of Achievement on all levels. (turn it around and MJ’s never won a Euroleague MVP, ha!). As a confessed Dirk-o-phile i feel it is my goal in Life to despise the San Antonio Spurs, and for a while, it was an easy achievement. (Kurt Thomas and Bowen on one team, too easy) Then they stole Findog from Dallas (nooo! i luv that guy), Tony Parker gave an interview on French TV two years ago with Eva & his family, impressed the sh** out of me and whoosh the irrational hate disappeared. Plus he put a 55 & 10 on the Wolves, a Stat Line that was one of the top 3 last season and just turned into this unstoppable, offensive machine on the court. Bowen Collector retired. Good riddance. Timmy has always been one of my favorite Sports stars, so quiet yet fiery, so controlled yet look at his eyes on court..dude is burning inside, true Champ. and now they brought in Antonio. McDyess, the rock, old school hair, old school stoism on court, productive even with multiple knee surgeries. Anytime i watch him, i am in awe. McDyess, role model. And of course, the zig zagging, flopping, best friends with Oberto force of nature from Argentina known to all as Manu. Now, this isn’t fair…. how the hell do i continue to generate hate for the Spurs when i damn admire damn near everyone of their players right now? (not you RJ)

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    As for Antonis: “you can’t stop him, you can only hope to contaiiiin him”. (ring a bell, fellas). why so agitated, we all know where he stands and everyone was expecting him to come out in full force on the Manu post, he loves the dude… relax, peeps. Or not, your problem.

  • http:///realcavsfans.com Anton

    When I saw how high Manu was in the rankings, I flopped out of my chair and started complaining endlessly.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ SOFOKLIS SCHORTSIANITIS(down to…. 150 kg!!!)

    @Darksaber….:see you in Turkey.(with a full roster this time)

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @ jukai: Sarunas marciulonis was the real manu before manu ever came along. This guy played exactly like ginobili and was just as crafty. Threw his body around and never flopped nor backed down. Too bad his career wasn’t long enough nor did he really get the minutes. It was hard to play on a team with hardaway, richmond, owens and mullin. But this guy was unbelievable and way way better than drazen. He was a lefty too like manu. I don’t understand why this guy was just forgotten but even gp said back in the day he was one of the hardest to guard. Slam should do a piece on him. European players in the league weren’t fashionable back then but this guy was killing it.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ SOFOKLIS SCHORTSIANITIS(down to…. 150 kg!!!)

    @cb 34_____: i seriously considered Marciulonis for my top-10 ever shooting guards but i choosed Wade over him with the hope that he develops a consistent 3 in the next 2-3 years… Of course he wasn’t at the level of Drazen cause Drazen is one of the most charismatic bball players ever….he was a much better defender though. Drazen and Sabonis(from 1987-89) are top-10 bball players of all-time.After them comes the 1990-93 Toni Kukoc(think of a 6-11 Larry Bird with hops).

  • Dukes

    What is the muber of the best player in the best team in the past 6 years? Who had the last ball to play?

  • rikson

    Manu is 29th ?! And not underrated ?! Cmon…. What weakness does his game have, except his health issues ???? This list is getting more and more ridicolous…..

  • crismaxcian

    Manuuu¡¡¡¡ esta temporada es tuya¡¡¡ saludos desde Formosa, Argentina

  • Benji

    Sorry to change the subject, but I feel I have to address the above commenters regarding the race issue.
    I’m English, and I’m going to take an educated guess and say that the people who don’t regard Spanish people or Argentines as white are probably American. I’m not quite sure where white Americans think they originated, but many of them are decended from Spanish people. Some of you seem to confuse Spanish with Hispanic which are two very different races. Another great deal of them are decended from Italians who, for the most part are white. And if you don’t consider Spanish or Italians to be white then there really aren’t too many white Americans! Argentina is not like other South American countries in that a large percentage (86% in fact) of the population is white, having decended from mainly Italy and Spain. Ginobili being an Italian name, I’d say he’s probably an Italian decendant, and hence white. Glad I could clear that up for you.

  • horsey

    kukoc was a great shooter, but to call him a 6-11 Larry Bird is silly. Very good shooters who can finish around the rim and run the floor while being nearly 7 feet tall is impressive, but Bird could still out shoot toni right now. in street clothes.

    also, if you insist on commenting on all things all the time (as well as spamming about the euroleague repeatedly) and talking down to other people you should get spell check. seriously. calling someone a “genious” and “amasing” and “intersting” really makes you look less informed than you think you are. which you are. try putting that through the translator…

  • tavoris

    great comment, horsey

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I’m going to take up for Greek dude on the language thing.
    While his condescension is irksome, I always find it impressive when people from other countries can have conversations in English, particularly since I can’t have a conversation in any other language. So, given the fact that English is not his native language, he gets a pass for effing up some words in my book.
    Back to regular programming.

  • horsey

    granted, english is a hard language for foreigners to learn (exceptions, homonyms. the fact that we know it at all is nothing short of a miracle) i’d give him more credit if he was writing a book report in english, but i can’t give him the benefit of the doubt for trying to talk down to an entire online community in their native language. besides, how many times have we seen a message labeled “EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP 2009?” regardless, i’m off my horse about it. just venting some frustration about the double standards of everyone being polite and co-existing together to form legitimate, relevant basketball conversations/good natured ribbing if that person is from another country. read the box below the “Submit Comment” box. tell me SOFO doesn’t do those things.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    No argument with your last sentence, I just wanted to say something on that language thing because I feel like that’s a recurring issue.

  • rog123

    I said earlier bos and sa play basketball the best. I never said they have the best team. However each season they are title contenders. Injuries is the only thing that can stop those teams. Lakers played like trash last year. When u consider the level of talent they have, they should have easily made it to the finals and win.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    mos def NOT underrated.

  • Franko

    Benji i like your post.

  • RM

    GREAT read. Manu Ginobli and the Spurs are going to make a splash this year. Ginobli’s got one of the most diverse games I’ve ever seen.. it’s true how there isn’t one exact way to guard the guy.

    ps. also gotta give love to shane battier. that boy knows basketball. love the Q.

  • ripcity

    yep, throw us some statsketball to convince us that this flopper is better than shaq.

  • ripcity

    yep, throw us some statsketball to convince us that this flopper is better than shaq.

  • http://SLAMMagazineOnline Adam Sweeney

    Hey everyone,

    the rankings were compiled from every SLAM writer’s top 50. So while I may rank Manu higher, for example, overall the writers put him there. I didn’t get to decide where he was ranked, only why I thought he was a great player.

    I hope you enjoyed the read. Thanks for taking the time to do so.

  • http://asfkl.com Jukai

    Adam: Why don’t YOU state in your article where YOU thought he should be?

  • K.a.

    allenp had some good burns there. Ahem. I love Manu so its a bit late in the game to callhim underrated and totally appreciate his consistency/health being a factor in the rating. But I’d take spurs with Manu over a bron/Kobe led team in a series, no doubt. I love his game. He’ll drive u crazy sometimes but when gets it going its a thing of beauty. I especially love the fact that his game is distinctively non american. I just like that its a different flavour.

  • SAG

    Way underrated. he could beat Kobe or Lebron in 1 on 1 any and every day if wasn’t for his injuries. He would be in the top 5 players of all time if Tim Duncan and Tony parker weren’t the leaders.

  • Marg Shanks

    I love him. He is what makes me love watching the Spurs play. If I hadn’t been flipping through channels and happened to see some guy make the most amazing moves I’ve seen ever in the game I would still be ignorant right now. He is the best and most passionate player out there and when he leaves the sport so do I cause there is no basketball without Manu Ginobili. Whoever doesn’t agree is lying to themselves and disagreeing purely due to pride. I could not agree with the article anymore and I will never waver in what I say because it is the truth. Manu Ginobili is possibly the greatest all around player who ever lived. Great on the court and off.

  • oscar

    If Manu was born in USA he would be in the top 15 pf all time….

  • http://manugibili.com bimbo

    i just want to say that MANU IS THE ONLY ONE IN NBA and nobody else.my entire life, in my mind and spirit, MANU GINOBILI THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAYER OF THE WORLD….FOREVER…

  • marianobhi

    manu n0 14??? too low!!!
    He ´s top 10!!!
    Iverson has to play with his own ball, the rest with another ball

  • marianobhi

    manu no 29??? too low!!!
    He ´s top 10!!!
    Iverson has to play with his own ball, the rest with another ball

  • DallasTX SPURS FAN!

    Manu is sooo unratted. Hopefully we will be healthy to help the SPURS win it all. GO SPURS GO!

  • Pablo

    omg wow its so funny reading all these comments of people talking like they actually know stuff
    come on people do a lil bit of reasearch first before you actually say something stupid
    manu- i simply can not think of many players ever to have so much success in a career
    he has won wherever he has been
    oh n he needs tim duncan HAHAHAHA
    2004
    argentina beats usa rather easily in the Olympics
    N GUESS WHAT tim duncan was playing but guess for what team
    oh iverson was playing too in his prime
    not to count only a few playes like a yound lebron a wade and a carmelo
    many gets injured doesn’t play in the playoffs and guess what

  • Pablo

    the spurs, tim duncans team, gets knocked out in the first round for the first time since td joined the team
    yep its a fact manu = success = championships of all sorts
    and if manu played the same minutes other superstars do like lebron carmelo he would be in the top in scoring
    yah thats right go check some stats people n stop being so ignorant cuz ur only insulting urself

  • Jorge

    Manu no esta para un puesto 29, para nada. Es un jugador ganador, de una calidad y vision del juego como ninguno. A mi gusto, uno de los mas completos, pudiendo estar tranquilamente entre los 10 mejores. Pero es algo que lo vemos nosotros, nunca ustedes

  • Thomas

    Manu IS underrated, no doubt about it.
    Olympics, NBA and Euroleague several times
    WTF! this guy won EVERY f#cking thing he played for.. (not counting the USA sub-championship with a suspicious final against SCG). Not talking about his efficacy and decisive points in the finals.
    I’m not saying he’s better than Kobe, no way but…
    Where he would be if he was born in USA??, Of course: less than Nº5 on this and any other rank. Period.

  • Marcos

    You are underrating him yourself!.
    He is much better than 29th.

  • http://myspace.com/tymarion Ty Marion

    Who is the other one that has won a Euro Champ, Gold, and NBA?!? NO ONE. He’s the only one.

  • http://NBA.COM SEANB

    FINALLY, THERE IS AN ARTICLE ABOUT HOW GREAT THIS GUY IS. BEFORE HE CAME TO SPURS THERE WERE ARTICLE’S WRITTEN HOW THIS GUY WAS THE MICHAEL JORDAN OF EUROPE AND HE WAS !!!.CHECK OUT U-TUBE ON HIS HIGHLIGHT’S. THEN HE CAME HERE AND HAS 3 CHAMPIONSHIPS,4TH COMMING IN 2010.NOW LAKER FAN’S THE ARTICLE DOES NOT STATE HE BETTER THAN KOBE BUT HE IS AS A BIG CLUTCH PLAYER AS KOBE,THATS WHY HIS RESUME IS FULL OF TITLE’S.KOBE WAS ASK 2 YEARS AGO WHO IS FAVORIATE PLAYER TO WATCH AND HE SAID MANU. WHILE HE WAS FILMING A DOCOMENTARY LAST YEAR WITH SPIKE LEE ON HIS LIFE,DURING A SPURS GAME ,HE POINTED OVER TO THE BENCH TO GINOBILLI AND SAID THAT’S A BAD BOY RIGHT THERE,I TOTALLY RESPECT HIS GAME!!SO IF KOBE IS GIVING PROP TO MANU, WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU.THIS GUY WILL BEAT YOU WITH HIS SHOT,PASSING TO OPEN MAN,KEY REBOUND,STEAL IN LAST 5 MINUTES OF THE GAME.I HAVE SEEN HIM DO IT ALL.OH U-TUBE HIGHLIGHTS IS MOSTLY AGAINST LAKER’S. BEWARE MY FRIENDS,THIS SPURS TEAM HAS MORE TALENT THAN ANY OTHER SPURS TEAM IN LAST 10 YRS.THIS TEAM IS WAY DEEPER THAN THE LAKER’S IT TAKE MORE THAN 1 INJURY TO STOP THEM BUT AS ARTICLE SAY, IT START WITH GINOBILLI AND ENDS WITH GINOBILLI.

  • Jon Walters

    Manu has the best winning percentage of any current NBA player, both in the regular season and playoffs (via Bill Simmons of ESPN and the Elias Sport Bureau research). Higher than Kobe, of course, but also higher than teammates Tim and Tony.

    He is the most underrated ATHLETE in any of the major sports. I’ve said it for years and your article points out a lot of reasons why. Thanks.

  • James

    Manu is the best actor in the NBA.

  • Gaston

    29…it just a number…He doesn´t need that to be one of the best players of the Nba in last 10 years…

  • j-flo

    very well written article, manu is definatly the most underated player in the nba. the tear he went on after the all-star break shows how valueble he is to the spurs. also he really does perform well in clutch situations, not only on offense but defense as well. that sick block on durant proves that.

  • nikkinicole

    loved it finnally somebody givin props to Manu!HE lead argentina to a gold medal on a team full of super stars!MANU IS DA MAN and Really u cant compare Manu to Kobe! Manu has class!

  • nikkinicole

    **against a team full of superstars**

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