• September 7, 2009 8:00 am  |  61 Comments

    Top 50: Ron Artest, no. 42

    The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

    by Myles Brown/@mdotbrown

    In any other off season he would’ve been the story. But lost amidst this summer’s whirlwind of events ranging from the downward spiral of Stephon Marbury to the ceaseless wonder that is Delonte West, is the continuing saga of Ron Artest. Remember when he was the crazy one? The thug? The tragedy? The comic relief?

     

    What happened?

     

    The advent of social networking tools such as twitter and uStream have given us a peek into the lives of numerous NBA stars and fringe personalities who’ve alternately enchanted and repulsed us with their foibles. But in reference to Artest, they’ve forced us to ask ourselves; has Ron truly matured or are they simply proving him tame by comparison?

     

    Either way, the Los Angeles Lakers welcome the distractions. Because those were the initial questions upon his signing. Will he be a distraction? Can he handle the distractions? Adding a reputedly combustible personality such as Artest certainly could destroy the chemistry of a championship team, but a closer look indicates otherwise.

     

    His recently developed penchant for shot happy play breaking, while not entirely excusable, is understandable considering the circumstances. The Sacramento Kings were a middling team void of any true purpose or leadership. Artest’s attempts to assert himself only proved he’s incapable of carrying a team, not that he’s a particularly selfish or cantankerous player. The Houston Rockets were an injury plagued unit, yet one that defied expectations. Artest’s perimeter oriented play could’ve allowed his teammates to operate in the post, as is his claim, nonetheless it still resulted in a career low FG%. However it should also be noted that he shot a career high in 3PA and 3P%. Point being that concerns of his willingness to defer or adapt, while based in reason, have become a bit exaggerated.

     

     

    Now the comparisons to Dennis Rodman’s stint with the Bulls are indeed lucid. Both are high risk/high reward specialists who need proper direction and motivation and due to their headstrong nature, that direction needs to come from someone they respect lest they try to do things their own way. Those roles have obviously been filled in these respective situations. It was never entirely clear whether Dennis held Michael in any reverence or simply knew not to cross him. Artest on the other hand, at times seems truly enamored with Bryant. Most important, is that Phil Jackson-soothsayer that he is-knows as with Dennis, there will be times when Artest will need to do things his own way, but will also know how to grant those allowances without disrupting the team dynamic.

     

    Though it has yet to be proven in Artest’s case, it is to be expected that both players will fall in line because they not only respect the game, they also know the stakes. If their teams fail, neither is naïve enough to believe the blame would fall anywhere but squarely on their shoulders. Which is why while Rodman was undoubtedly the league’s biggest distraction, he was also one of it’s hardest workers. Lapses in judgment were inevitable, but so were stretches of play that few-if any-other players could produce. The same could be said of Ron.

     

    Similar as their situations may be, there are still slight-and possibly crucial-differences between the two. Rodman before his, um, transformation, was drafted into a championship caliber unit and immediately learned the nuances of winning while carving a niche for himself. In the latter stages of his career there was never a question of whether he knew how to win, simply whether he cared to do so at all. This is Artest’s first and best chance at a title. It remains to be seen whether he can learn on the fly.

     

    Secondly, for all his antics, Dennis was more calculating than Artest. Most of his schtick was just that, an act. He relished the attention and with good reason. He profited handsomely from it. Artest could be seeking that same cultural cache, but as Dennis did, he should know his appeal is entirely dependent on winning. A rebel is far more marketable as the victor than the scourge. Rodman successfully toed that line, though quite childishly. However Rodman’s was a choleric and reflexive brand of childishness, whereas Ron’s childlike quality is that he’s, well, for lack of a better term…simple minded. This is not to imply that he’s incapable of insight or profundity, but to insist that he’s completely void of any pretension or ulterior motives. He is as genuine and forthright as someone so unpredictable can be.

     

    Apparently Artest plans to use his time in L.A.to explore other entertainment options. Will he be as cunning as Rodman in balancing the two? Will it affect his play? Who knows? As is often the case with Ron Ron, there are more questions than answers.

     

    This summer Artest revisited the defining moment of his career by making amends with John Green, the infamous beer tossing Pistons fan. The two have developed a friendly relationship and are planning on conducting an interview together. Green has nothing to gain from this endeavor, but Artest is clearly seeking redemption. November 19, 2004 changed his life. Though seven games is nothing to draw conclusions from, the mercurial forward was having his best season and the Pacers may have been on the cusp of championship contention. It all disappeared in an instant and he’s been trying to recapture that moment ever since. Now is his chance and though the role has been reduced, the importance has doubled.

     

    If there was a SLAMonline Top 50 list on the dawn of the 1996 season, we probably would have spoken similarly of Dennis Rodman. And he probably wouldn’t have been higher than 42, if he made the list at all. But he certainly would’ve been much higher in a poll of players importance to their team’s hopes for a championship.

     

    The same can be said of Ron Artest.

    Notes
    • Rankings are based solely on projected ‘09-10 performance.
    • Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
    • Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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    • Gerard Himself Posted: Sep.7 at 8:54 am
      I am a bit surprised Artest wasn’t ranked a little bit higher, but I am not a huge Artest fan so to me it doesn’t matter much. Of course it’s great that he plays at both ends of the court, but if you’ve been in the NBA for this long and your shot selection is still that bad, maybe no. 42 is just the right spot.

    • vongustedt Posted: Sep.7 at 9:00 am
      second!!!

    • rikson Posted: Sep.7 at 9:06 am
      Id put Gordon over Artest in terms of production this season… cause, I think godons gonna start for the pistons and will be their main guy on offense! Plus Artests production will be significantly lower (if he manages to adapt to the team - NO WAY Jackson is gonna like his shot selection right now) with the lakers. But right now - after bowen is retired - maybe the only great perimeter defender - who gets “under your skin” - we have left - gotta admire that…

    • Moose Posted: Sep.7 at 9:08 am
      Would’ve had him just a little bit higher, but this seems like a good enough choice. I agree. When is Richard Jefferson coming up? Really can’t be long…

    • Darksaber Posted: Sep.7 at 9:14 am
      Rodman in 96 would have been higher than “tru warrier” is now imo. An undersized PF who guards Shaq, Kemp, Ewing etc? Changes the flow/outcome of games through grit, defense & astounding rebounding ability, hell Rodman (the player not the sideshow) was top 50 without a doubt…. When in the right environment…

    • Moose Posted: Sep.7 at 9:39 am
      Rodman also just got boards and played defense. Artest can do it all.

    • neaorin Posted: Sep.7 at 9:52 am
      Forty-two? I hope you realize Ron is coming over to your house to kick your a$$ as soon as he’s done reading this.

    • Furious Posted: Sep.7 at 10:07 am
      Dont be stupid neaorin - Ron’s cant read.

    • LeoneL Posted: Sep.7 at 10:08 am
      “Forty-two? I hope you realize Ron is coming over to your house to kick your a$$ as soon as he’s done reading this.” All while he’s belting My Heart Will Go On.

    • German Reignman Posted: Sep.7 at 10:24 am
      @whoever said, thers no Rockets on this list: See ???? Oh, wait ….

    • Yesse Posted: Sep.7 at 10:39 am
      Now this one i can agree with.Ron might expect a bigger position himself tough.

    • Darksaber Posted: Sep.7 at 10:45 am
      LeoneL: genius

    • Darksaber Posted: Sep.7 at 10:59 am
      Hey is this ranking of Ron with or without the inclusion of the now (hoops) world famous Shin Shin? Cause she must raise his standing 2 or 3 spots, right?

    • Bryan Posted: Sep.7 at 11:03 am
      4 lakers, but I’m better there aren’t any knicks on here.

    • Moose Posted: Sep.7 at 11:07 am
      Bryan: The dude with the best chance from the Knicks (uhhh, well, we think he’s on the Knicks…..probably not actually) would be David Lee, and I don’t know if he makes it this far. It’s about the production, and Lee is a double-double machine. Hard to say.

    • Bryan Posted: Sep.7 at 11:16 am
      I guess lebron is gonna be number 1 or 2 though and he may as well be a knick right?

    • Moose Posted: Sep.7 at 11:19 am
      Don’t get your hopes up, Shia haha.

    • rikson Posted: Sep.7 at 11:21 am
      What about Al Harrington -> surely hes better than Lee….

    • Bryan Posted: Sep.7 at 11:30 am
      Al harrington is not better than david lee.

    • Gerard Himself Posted: Sep.7 at 11:39 am
      What about Wilson Chandler? He was one of the surprises of last season, and I think he could be in the running for MIP if he continues his strong play….

    • davidR Posted: Sep.7 at 11:56 am
      harrington might not be better than lee, but under d’antoni his production is through the roof. i’m guessing if either of them make this list, al will have a higher ranking

    • i have high hopes on Ron, but we’ll see….he must be a great guy.

    • Jukai Posted: Sep.7 at 12:04 pm
      davidR: So will Lee’s contributions… Harrington is not better than David Lee

    • Today is the first day of the European championship in Poland. We are playing at this moment our first game against a small “country” near Greece that likes to be called (unoficially) macedonia. Of course the greek players that actually were born at that part of Greece (Macedonia is the northern part of Greece with Thessaloniki as a capital) were really pissed off with what happened the last few days and the result is that we are leading after the first half 52-26 ….the big game is tomorrow when we will face Croatia….

    • GOAT Posted: Sep.7 at 12:17 pm
      @Moose - Rodman “just” got rebounds and played defense, just? JUST? JUST!?!?! That’s like saying Ray Allen just shoots three pointers, or John Stockton just got assists and steals. Dennis Rodman is pound for pound the greatest rebounder in the history of this glorious league. One of the most tenacious defenders of his generation for sure, and again, arguably of all time. Not too mention his uncanny ability to start the fast break with pin point outlet passes.
      Let’s give credit where credit is due here. Sure Artest scores a lot more, but he takes a hell of a lot more shots than Rodman ever did too. And Dennis just didn’t give a damn about scoring (when you’ve got Isiah and Joe D, or Scottie and Michael as teammates, that’s a good strategy to take). Ron Ron better take a look at his horrible shot selection and career shooting percentage before this season starts, and hopefully take a similar approach, while opting to feed the likes of Kobe, Pau, Bynum and LO. If he knows what’s good for him. BUT, I’m pretty sure Ron has no idea what’s good for him (which is partly why we all love him).

    • larry bird Posted: Sep.7 at 1:01 pm
      hes getting ready to bust some heads lol. hell be just fine, he demonstrated in houston, if not a matured playing style, a more varied albeit innefficient offensive game and a much moregood natured attitude. in the right system, with his mind back on getting into his peak on ball defensive shape, his solid offensive skills when not overutilize, etc, he will be an excellent go to perimeter defender, bring toughness that the very clearly la brand soft lakers need, and shoot a three in the corner or dunk on the break every once in a while. still, in the finals, disagrees with kobe, goes wild, lakers go soft again, celtics win ring, assuming la isn’t knocked out by the if healthy now equally talented spurs with a much more disciplined, experienced tough team

    • Darksaber Posted: Sep.7 at 1:03 pm
      GOAT: bravo, i concur with your response to Moose (except of the “why we all love him” part - i don’t)

    • underdog Posted: Sep.7 at 1:19 pm
      So, this means Odom is not on the list?

    • James the balla Posted: Sep.7 at 1:27 pm
      Odom is 100 percent on this list underdog… come on now!!

    • Overtime Posted: Sep.7 at 1:28 pm
      No problem with the ranking. But I do have an issue with his ”first chance to win a title” and ”the Pacers may have been on the cusp of championship contender”.
      The Pacers had the best record in 03-04. They were already a contender and Ron had a chance to win a title there, they just didn’t get it done

    • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.7 at 1:34 pm
      Artest should be a lot higher.

    • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.7 at 1:37 pm
      Artest is a great defender like Rodman, but he’s nowhere near as good of a rebounder. BUT, his offensive skillset is like 100000000000 times that of Dennis Rodman’s. Artest can hit the trey consistently, he has a nice midrange jumper, he’s insanely good at the post-up when he wants to be… he’s basically got the full package offensively AND defensively. Artest should be way higher than 42.

    • James the balla Posted: Sep.7 at 1:41 pm
      Thanks Teddy I agree. Mo Williams higher the Artest?

    • JE Posted: Sep.7 at 1:46 pm
      Remember when Ron requested permission to take the season off so he could concentrate on his rap career? Wasn’t that the same season as the Pacers/Pistons brawl — the one that Myles implied was going to be a career year for him?

    • Myles Brown Posted: Sep.7 at 1:50 pm
      And?

    • Brad Long Posted: Sep.7 at 1:56 pm
      I expected Ron to be early 30’s. Good stuff, Myles. I still think there should be 5 Lakers on this list.

    • John Krolik Posted: Sep.7 at 2:05 pm
      Teddy, just to let you know, Baron Davis and Josh Smith were the only qualifying players who shot worse from midrange than Artest last season. http://www.82games.com/0809/FGSORT7.HTM

    • John Krolik Posted: Sep.7 at 2:05 pm
      Teddy, just to let you know, Baron Davis and Josh Smith were the only qualifying players who shot worse from midrange than Artest last season.

    • @James…..:Mo ain’t making the list….i mean,what else does he have to do than completely desapear in the only serious that his team was chalenged at the playoffs in order to convince you that he ain’t one of the 40 best players in the league…? At the same time the shoe-seller did much worse than this and he is again at top-50,….So,the question is: what is the marketing value of Mo Williams…?

    • @John Krolik….:Baron Davis doesn’t count cause he has a place locked as one of the worst shooters the game has seen, even if he was to move to the second division of the German league…he has maybe the worst shot selection i have ever seen from a player that reached the all-star game(NOT all-star level, B.J.Armstrong and A.C.Green also reached this game but they were not all-star level players).Maybe only Antoine Walker was worst…

    • Bryan Posted: Sep.7 at 3:48 pm
      Also harringtons production doesn’t dwarf lee’s , he averages 4 more points bet at the same size like half the rebounds

    • a huge surprise is about to take place in the first day of the European championship when the world champions Spain with all its stars (except Calderon) is 15 points behind the young team of Serbia…

    • quick recap of the games with an NBA interst:
      FRANCE-GERMANY: Ronny Turiaf led his team with 14 pts and 15 boards to the win against a Germany team that fought really hard without Novitski. Parker was terrible for 3 quarters but he took over at the fourth scoring the last 11 points for them.Nicola Batum had also 12 points and Boris Diaw scored seven.
      SPAIN-SERBIA:The huge upset of the tournament took place in the first day when the heavily favored and arrogant Spaniards lost to a Serbia team led by Krstic and Tepic. Serbia was leading with 19 points at the end of 3rd quarter.Navaro led Spain with 14 while Pau Gasol, injured and obviously nervous, lost 4 straight free throws at the end… TURKEY-LITHOUANIA: Turkey won with 84-76 led by Ersan Ilyasova (back in the NBA with the Bucks)who had 17 and 6, while Hedo had 19 points. Linas Kleiza had just 12 points…

    • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.7 at 6:07 pm
      @ John Krolik: Fair enough, but that doesn’t mean he can’t hit the midrange jumper. And that’s not saying much when comparing Ron to other guys on this list. See, I never knew Dwight Howard had a better midrange jumpshot than Ron Artest.

    • James the balla Posted: Sep.7 at 6:15 pm
      @SOFO … the arrogant Spaniards? Doesn’t that make you … anyways good recap. Thanks.

    • walt williams Posted: Sep.7 at 6:38 pm
      where will Kevin Martin be?

    • Brad Long Posted: Sep.7 at 6:48 pm
      ^In Sacramento?

    • James the balla Posted: Sep.7 at 6:56 pm
      Brad with the zinger.

    • Joey E. Posted: Sep.7 at 7:14 pm
      too low

    • Pardeep Posted: Sep.7 at 8:05 pm
      LA is going to repeat and Ron Artest is going to be a major reason why!

    • BETCATS Posted: Sep.7 at 8:17 pm
      this list is getting intresting. If Shawn Marion is ranked above Artest and Josh Howard i am going to go craaaazzy

    • chintao Posted: Sep.7 at 10:58 pm
      I am conflicted. I feel that Ron will be better than 42 this season. On the other hand, insofar as he is repping the Fakers this year, I kind of hope that somehow he never even suits-up.

    • Joel O's Posted: Sep.7 at 11:16 pm
      Shawn Marion can’t be on this list. He hasn’t been relevant for two years now. There’s no way he’s higher than Ron or Josh Howard or AI for that matter. And I don’t see how he’s going to fit in or work out as the 4th (at best) option for the Mavs.

    • Tariq Posted: Sep.7 at 11:41 pm
      I like the comparisons between Dennis and Ron. Still think he’s too low though.

    • The Last Kings Fan Posted: Sep.8 at 12:15 am
      He was number 49 last year, and if you tell me there are 50 players in the NBA better than Kevin Martin, I will be very upset. Cuz he’s definitely up there, but he’s gotta be coming up soon right?

    • Solon Posted: Sep.8 at 1:27 am
      Marion-No way he is making list. neither should harrington…or david lee. at least not above artest and B Diddy.
      Artest is super looney, but this isn’t his first shot at a title-Remember the Pacers took the 04 Champ Pistons to 7 games (those same Pistons that Swept the Lakers in 5 games). That was a gooooood Pacers team, and a lot of People picked them to win it all in 05, and if the Brawl hadn’t happend,then who knows….but then again if the brawl hadn’t happenend, we would have the Ronron that we all know.
      This is about where I would put him though. he is what, the 4th best player on his team? Also no way Bynum makes it either. Lakers get 4-Artest, Odom, Pau, Kobe (#2?)

    • Dacre Posted: Sep.8 at 1:32 am
      the 2010 dennis rodman? apt perhaps.

    • jay Posted: Sep.8 at 2:02 am
      I’m not going to argue this ranking, but I am going to praise Myles for this write-up. Great job.

    • Furious Posted: Sep.8 at 5:03 am
      If Bynum makes the list, especially now that we’re already up to #42, I will kneecap myself.

    • UnRel Posted: Sep.8 at 1:05 pm
      Ron-Ron should be low-mid 30s as of right now.. he’s supposed to come to the Lakers as a lock-down defender.. if he does that.. and shuts down the best 2s and 3s in the league.. he should get a higher ranking.. but, then again.. defense is, usually, an after thought when lists are being made..

    • Lazaruz Posted: Sep.29 at 12:40 am
      Far too low, imo better than everyone ranked ahead of him so far.

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