Monday, October 5th, 2009 at 8:00 am  |  240 responses

Top 50: Derrick Rose, no. 18

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Franklyn Calle

The time has come! The guy you all love to hate has finally appeared on the rankings. If you’ve been following our Top 50 list as of late, then you already know that DRose has been meDerrick Rosentioned in the comments section more than the featured player. And for the most part, the comments haven’t been too positive.

Many of you feel Rose is too high. Maybe he is, maybe not.

There is no point for me to sit here and try to convince those who aren’t happy with where is ranked or even those who don’t like his game. An article will not all of the sudden change your perspective on him. Instead I will evaluate his rookie season, what can be expected from him next season, and what could have led to him landing at No. 18.

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We all witnessed history on April 18, when DRose had a historic playoff performance against the defending champions – the Boston Celtics – finishing with 36 points, 11 assists and 4 rebounds, while shooting 63 percent from the floor. His 36 points tied Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for most points ever scored by a rookie in his playoff debut. I should note that Abdul-Jabbar was 22 years old at the time and Rose was only 20. And…. 10 inches of height makes a difference. Rose also became only the second player in NBA history to finish with more than 35 points and 10 assists in his playoff debut (regardless of years in the League).

So let’s see, how did the Chicago native’s first year numbers rank with those of Chris Paul, Allen Iverson, Deron Williams, Jason Kidd, Chauncey Billups, Rajon Rondo, Steve Nash, Tony Parker and Devin Harris? If we were to compare Rose’s rookie season to those of the League’s premiere point guards, it is evident that he is on his way to be a very special one.

Compared to the point guards who were just mentioned, Rose’s regular season rookie stats showed he may very well be the real deal. Only Iverson averaged more points than Rose as a rookie. What about field goals? His 47.5 percent from the floor was higher than any of the aforementioned guards. Only Paul, Iverson and Kidd averaged more assists then Rose as a rookie, and that difference was by less than 1.5 assists.

Rose is the only one who led his team to the Playoffs as a rookie. I emphasize ‘LED‘ because although Nash, Parker and Harris made the Playoffs as rookies, all three teams had other guys they depended on to lead the way. We all can agree that Rose was a huge factor in the Bulls making the Playoffs after Chicago’s absence the previous year. He shot 80 percent from the free throw line in the Playoffs, better than any of the other guards when they played in the Playoffs for the first time – and keep in mind most of them dudes didn’t even make the Playoffs until their third year in the League.

With Ben Gordon leaving to the Pistons, you can expect for Rose’s stats to increase by a good amount. A 22-point, 8-assist, and 6-rebound season is very well possible.

Now I’ve noticed some people argued that Rose only shot 22 percent from behind the arc. Well, he proved in his playoff debut that he can easily drop 36 points without ever having to hit a single three-pointer. It won’t be too long before the same applies for 40-point performances. And let’s be real, his three-point percentage will improve with experience and years.

Another argument against Rose seems to be his defense. My question is how many 20-year-olds do you guys remember coming into the League and straight up locking down guys? Name the point guards! You won’t find many… if any! In fact you have grown-ass men in their 30s in the League who still don’t seem to have learned the fundamentals of defense.

So if we’re going by statistics, then it’s fair to say Rose is well ahead enough to being one of the NBA’s premier guards. If we are going by talent and court presence, even better. I don’t know how many point guards in the League are as athletic, agile and explosive as he is. Again, if any.

Now how did he end up at the 18 slot? Well as you may see at the bottom of the page, “rankings are based solely on projected ’09-10 performances.” This hints that it has nothing to do with what a player has done in his career, and more so with what it is expected of him this season. It is obvious by where he is ranked that expectations are higher for Rose than, say, Billups and all the other guards who have already appeared in the Top 50 list.

Coincidentally enough, Rose celebrated his 21st birthday yesterday.

Say what you like, but if last year was any indication, Rose is on his way to either being your favorite point guard, or your favorite point guard to hate. But either way, he’ll have you talking for years to come.

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’09-10 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
• Want more of the SLAMonline Top 50? Check out the archive.

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  • http://www.in-n-outnba.blogspot.com Lucas

    I bet either Amare or Duncan are next

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Tony Parker, Chris Bosh, Paul Pierce or Pau Gasol is next.

  • aj

    way, way too high.

    He’s gonna get there, but he’s not even close to a top 20 spot now.

  • http://yahoo.com Logues

    agree completely with aj, SLAM how can u say that rose is better than billups?

  • http://riccardo_walker@yahoo.com Blackrick

    I dont think you guys understand just how good this kid is.When he was at Memphis he destroyed every point guard he went against in the NCAA tournament,read what i said,DESTROYED!!Not to mention he was only a freshman.He goes on to be rookie of the year and has one of the greatest playoff debuts in NBA history!!And he’s only gonna get better,that’s the scary thing.He’s about to ball out of his mind this year,mark it down.Physically no point guard in the league can deal with his size,speed and uber-athleticism and i mean nobody!Throw in the fact that despite his physical gifts he’s still a true pg and looks to get everybody involved and then things get more scary.This kid is a top 20 player without question and who knows?,by seasons end we might be talking about this kid top 10.

  • Mack

    really? Derrick Rose < Joe Johnson? maybe next year

  • Mack

    lol I mean joe johnson is better

  • Orlando Green

    Drose’s court prod will be better than C-Bills and Nash so thats why he is higher…period.

    Good spot

  • http://fdsjklf.com Jukai

    ARENAS OVER AI ARE YOU @*$*)(*# KIDDING ME?

  • I am the walrus

    Now this is ridiculos.I know this is based mostly on prodjected performance for the upcoming season, but damn it Slam you can’t put a young player with one season under his belt and say he is the 18th best player in the NBA. He is not the 18th best player in the best league in the whole world. He ain’t that much better than Rondo, JJ, Billups,Odom just to name a few. I’m not a hater but i think this is way too high…

  • BIG Z

    if these rankings are based on 2009-10 projections. Then how high will Durant be im thinkin at least #9

  • http:///realcavsfans.com Anton

    Stupid ranking system. I like last year’s best players in the game RIGHT NOW criteria.

  • minikidd

    @ T.J.:”He’s definately top 25 but no way he’s top 20″..!? Wth, that statement doesn’t make any sense…

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    No Anton, that would make too much sense. I only tease, SLAM. I only tease.

  • josh

    he should be in the 25-30 range….

  • Furious

    minikidd, that makes perfect sense. obviously tj is saying that he should have been 25-21, but that there is no way he deserves any higher. not that hard to understand.

  • don

    “Only Paul, Iverson and Kidd averaged more assists then Rose as a rookie, ” — this proves that AI is really that good.

  • jk_light

    I think it’s kind of funny if somebody says that the ranking is totally unbelievable and he should be 3 places up or down (Counts for every player, not just this ranking for D.Rose). Who are you that you exactly know where people should be ranked? Everybody has a different opinion and this is the Average of some people, that have way more information then nearly everybody on this board. So you can all state your opinion but most are doing as if they have the one and only (right) answer.

  • minikidd

    Furious, i’ll just have to disagree with you then.. I don’t see how you can “definately” be among the 25 best players, but there’s “no way” he’s top 20.. so 5 spots are difference between definately and no way.. well, never mind, I’m just being petty… No matter what Drose is gonna be sick this year, can’t wait to buy league pass…

  • La Maravilla

    Men what the hell is going on with this thing is becoming a joke u put this ni99a over Billups? Billups got denver to thw WCF men he had a way better season then this rookie men get off Drose meat he can’t shoot to save his life and don’t u ever compare him to my boy CP3 cause CP3 is in another level yeah that noe level that Drose will never reach not even with the help of stockton kid magic I don’t care who u put to coach him he can’t see CP3 at all

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq

    minikidd:
    Yeah. 5 spots makes a difference. So you can say, for example, that Deron Williams may be a Top 10 player in the NBA but there’s no way he’s a Top 5 player. Something like that.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq

    Speaking of which, what the hell does Deron have to do to make the all-star team? There goes my “18th-best player is a lock” hypothesis.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Deron has to play in a conference that doesn’t have Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups, Kobe Bryant, Brandon Roy and Steve Nash in it. Either that or they need to expand the All-Star rosters to 15 players already (which they absolutely should do).

  • jsmith

    J-Salmons will take away most of the pressure from Rose. Deng might do something this year but you never know, and Tyrus T should still continue to improve a little bit. Rose should be a stud this year, and I think 19-8a-6r is easily attainable for Rose.

  • http://astrokidz.blogspot.com T.J.

    @minikid

    you know

    21,22,23,24,25 but not 1-20 range and surely not over JJ

  • Harlem_World

    If we’re talking about forthcoming season, its a better debate to ask who is better RIGHT NOW Rondo or Rose? Neither can shoot (though Rose is better shooter), but Rondo does more all over the floor than Rose right now. I’d take Rose if it was my franchise as he has the far higher ceiling, but right now? Kid’s not quite there yet. Having him placed higher than Chauncey is just nonsense. As someone else said, Devin and Grainger too.

  • Zach

    I read alot of these comments. And I’m sick of everyone hatin on my boy D Rose. 18th spot is correct. The loss of Gordon won’t make a difference in the way this team will play. Other people will step up including Rose. He officially kknows the NBA now. He knows how to play in the league. Based on that he will put up better numbers and prove all you haters wrong. Derrick Rose will own up to the 18th if not better.

  • JD

    I don’t hate this guy, but 18 is 20, 22 places too high 4 him, give it a few years first, he only just edged OJ 4 R.O.Y and he’s no.40 something

  • http://www.utjazzblog.com Utah Jazz Blog

    Ridiculous ranking for an unproven player. Rose had a nice rookie season and probably will be deserving of this position in a year or two, but not now. No way at this point in time that he is the 18th best player in the league.

  • Darryl

    The only GM’s that could pick up the phone and make the Bulls an offer for D.Rose Live in LA(Kobe),Cleveland(LeBron),New Orleans(CP3),Miami(D.Wade and Orlando(D.Howard),everyone else gets laughed at.That’s how good Rose is!

  • KH

    This is a ludicrous ranking.

  • Charles Kirk

    I think that Rose is good but, there is noway that he is that much better than Mayo. It’s okay if you think he is but, by 29 spots no frickin way.

  • Kyle

    How is this guy better than Steve Nash? Wow… and Mayo and freaking Gallinari are both better than he is this season. Good call Slam!

    Oh, and Kobe is far better than LeBron. Nash is also better than Williams. Give him the Utah Jazz team, and he’d have 14 assists a game. The guy is making Channing Frye look like a starter in the NBA.

  • rich

    4 1/2 months later, the ranking fits pretty perfectly. might even be higher now.. haha.. rose was just ailing with his ankle injury early in the season. he’s tearin it up now

  • Jay

    It is safe to say that this ranking was justified with the season D.Rose just had. This is why the writers are working for SLAM mag and you people arent…

  • Jay

    Oh I still agree that Billups is a bit underrated…

  • whitey

    i think that he should be in the top ten

  • Jay

    Top ten? No way.

  • joe

    D-rose is better than jerry west

  • joe

    No way LOL…what person in there right mind would say he’s not in the top ten a d rose hated thats who problly some one who thinks nash and parker is better than rose……

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