• October 9, 2009 8:00 am  |  106 Comments

    Top 50: Pau Gasol, no. 14

    The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

    by John Krolik

    In the 1990s, Chicago Bulls GM Jerry Krause had one of the great dynasties of the modern era. He had the greatest player of all time at shooting guard. Alongside of him was all-time second banana Scottie Pippen, who Krause haPau Gasold hand-picked from relative obscurity. The team was winning championships, setting records, dominating. But Krause was never happy. He never found the player he was looking for.

    Krause was obsessed with big men-he believed the best teams were built around them, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary in front of his eyes. And he didn’t want just any big man;the perfectly competent and sometimes fantastic bigs the Bulls brought in, from Luc Longley to Horace Grant to Bill Cartwright to Dennis Rodman, never satisfied him. He constantly pushed Phil Jackson to make Toni Kukoc into the superstar Krause believed Kukoc would become, when in reality he was always best suited as a complimentary player despite his skills. Before Michael Olowokandi was drafted, he ran around the front office telling anyone who would listen how big of a superstar Olowokandi would become. He attempted to trade Scottie Pippen for the draft rights to Keith Van Horn, only to have MJ nix the trade. After Phil, MJ, and Scottie left, he attempted to build his new dynasty around rookie giants Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler.

    Krause was chasing a dream; he wanted to find a big man with true center size but the skills to change the game entirely from the pivot position, young and malleable, a giant who would dominate through unorthodox finesse rather than pure lumbering power, from a place most wouldn’t think to look. He was looking for Pau Gasol. And as fate would have it, Gasol now plays in Phil’s triangle with the best guard since MJ, on a team with one championship and more likely on the way.

    Great big men are as important as they ever were, but at this time fewer of the league’s best big men’s greatest attribute is their post-up game. Three-quarters of KG’s shots were jumpers last season, and three-quarters of his shots were assisted. 65% of Chris Bosh’s shots were jumpers. 85% of Dirk’s shots were jumpers. 55% of Amare’s shots were jumpers last season, and while his post game has improved, most of his looks around the basket still come from the pick-and-roll or facing his man up. David West, 71% jumpers. Even Tim Duncan took 57% of his shots from outside the paint. Dwight Howard is certainly a beast inside, but it’s not a state secret that his one-on-one traditional post game remains a work in progress. There’s still, of course, Shaq, Yao, and even Al Jefferson, who are their own stories.

    But more and more, the great teams in the league seem to be inching towards a Celtics/Magic/et al model, in which the power forward stretches the floor and does most of the playmaking while the center dominates the paint and does most of his damage on catch-and-dunks, rebounds, defending the rim, and the occasional overpowering move deep in the key, rather than a “twin towers” model where both the center and power forward are comfortable initiating offense from the block. This does, to a degree, make some sense; the hand-check rules make going around players easier, so shooting over them becomes something successful offenses are less likely to be built around.

    None of this is meant to be an elegy for the post game-for proof that it will always be an effective weapon, one need look no further than Gasol’s teammate Kobe Bryant, who at 6-7 has developed perhaps the league’s most advanced array of mid-and-low post moves, which he uses to devastating effect. (And that’s before Kobe starting working with The Dream this off-season. Um, Holy Crap.)

    But one-dimensional low-post players, who take the ball on the block, take 20 shots a game, and can’t make as much of an impact by stretching the floor, passing or moving without the ball, or on the defensive end, seem to be less and less present on the league’s elite teams, or even starting on decent ones-see the rise and fall of Eddy Curry, Zach Randolph, and even Chris Kaman.

    Then you’ve got Pau Gasol, the pivot man Evolved. Gasol, is, first and foremost, one of the league’s deadliest low-post scorers. He has a simple but devastating set of weapons from the block. He has a beautiful jump hook that he’s great at setting up with deep position, he’s confident with his left hand around the basket, he has a disgustingly fast back-to-basket spin move that leaves defenders wondering what happened, he’s comfortable facing up slower bigs and blowing by them, and he’s athletic, strong, and crafty around the basket when he finds himself out of position near the rim. All of this leads to huge dividends from the inside-60% of Gasol’s shots come from inside, and he made a ridiculous 64% of his shots from down there, a fantastic mark, with barely over half of those shots coming off assists. And with a 78% mark from the stripe last season, fouling Gasol doesn’t help matters much either. Despite the fact many still think of him as a soft player or a natural 4, Gasol is as much of a force on the block as any player in the league.

    But of course, Gasol is so much more than just a low-post player, and that’s what elevated him into a crucial part of a championship team. He’s fabulous playing the high-post, which of course makes him invaluable in the triangle. He’s an outstanding passer for his size-only Brian Cardinal (?), Boris Diaw, Lamar Odom, Jared Jeffries, and Andrei Kirilenko had better assist ratios at power forward than Gasol, and all of them had worse turnover rates. (Among players listed at center who played significant minutes, only Ronny Turiaf, Brad Miller, Jeff Foster, and Al Horford had better assist ratios, and all of their listings at center are far more questionable than Gasol’s, with the possible exception of Horford. And again, all of their turnover rates were worse.) And Dirk Nowitzki, Antonio McDyess, and Darius Songalia were the only big men who posted a better shooting percentage from midrange than Gasol’s 46%.

    Gasol also runs the floor incredibly well for his size, and was a key to the Lakers’ deadly fast-break; among teams that made the playoffs, only the Nuggets had a faster-paced offense, and that was only by a hair. That skill certainly came in handy for the Lakers when Gasol was there to catch Kobe’s amazing pass in a two-for-one situation in the crucial game 4 of last year’s finals.

    That does, of course, lead to somewhat of an elephant in the room when it comes to discussing Gasol’s effectiveness; the fact that the rest of the league’s big men don’t have Kobe Bryant on their team. Kobe does, of course, make life a lot easier for Gasol-Gasol doesn’t have to take bad shots at the end of the clock, defenses can’t load up against him, and he’s the recipient of plenty of weak-side dunks thanks to Kobe’s unsurpassed ability to find big men with passes from impossible angles in traffic, often from mid-air. It just can’t be denied that playing with Kobe Bryant makes other players better-Kobe even managed to make Kwame Brown look halfway decent for a few years.

    But while it would be silly to pretend that playing with Bryant hasn’t helped Gasol tremendously on the court, the degree to which Gasol has seamlessly blended his game with Kobe’s to give the Lakers one of the best offenses ever does deserve some praise. Gasol’s versatility has been key in helping him become the league’s best beta dog. (Spoiler alert: no player with a player higher than him on this list on his own team is ranked higher than Gasol. If I end up mysteriously disappeared for divulging this, so be it.)

    When Gasol gets the ball in the high post, he’s a good enough passer to find Kobe cutting to the basket or left alone for a three. When Kobe’s driving, Gasol has the hands and hops to catch and finish around the basket, and the range to step back and keep the floor stretched. When the defense tries to key in on Kobe, Gasol can take the ball on the block and punish the single coverage or rotate it back out to Kobe on the weak side if they do bring a double. And of course, Gasol is smart and humble enough not to start demanding the ball, going for his own shots, and keeping Kobe from doing his thing if he’s feeling it. It’s rare to see two great offensive players who are versatile enough not to have to give something up when they’re playing with each other, but Kobe and Gasol have managed to do just that, to the tune of a ring.

    The only thing approaching a caveat when it comes to Gasol is the fact that, despite his listing, he’s a very, very good power forward, but a downright special center. He is a player who’s at his best offensively down low, and prefers to work from the inside-out. The stats bear this out-Gasol played twice as much center as power forward last season, and his PERs jumped from 21 to 26 when he played center. The Lakers also played much better as a team with him at the 5, averaging 10.4 net points per 48 minutes to 6.0 points per 48 when he was at power forward. In the playoffs, this split got even more pronounced. He played three times as much center as power forward in the playoffs, and his PER jumped from 14.0 to 26.0, with the Lakers’ net points per 48 going from 1.2 to 10.2.

    However, while he certainly did more than an acceptable job against Dwight Howard defensively in the finals last season, he’s somewhat of a tweener defensively. He can get out on the pick-and-roll pretty well and has good length and size inside, but he’s not quite strong enough to mark the league’s most hulking centers or quickest power forwards. And of course, the Lakers are invested in the development of Andrew Bynum, a hugely promising young true center. Between Gasol, Bynum, Odom, and Artest, someone is going to have to sit during crunch-time (unless Kobe plays point, which could well work and would be kind of awesome), and even a frontcourt of Gasol, Bynum, and Odom would have trouble keeping the floor spaced without a true three-point threat. But overall, having too much talent is a good problem to have, and there are few people better suited to figure out those problems than Phil Jackson, Kobe, and Gasol. I’m not sure how exactly it will work, but I’m fairly certain that it will, if that makes sense.

    Pau Gasol may well be a vision of what the dominant post players of the future will look like-the same beautiful set of moves from the block and mid-post, and someone who will gladly destroy single coverage if he gets it, but also someone quick and versatile enough to make the pass, step out and hit the jumper, or run the floor on a fast-break when the increasingly drive-and-kick nature of the game demands it. Of course, Gasol might just be so good that we won’t see another like him for a long, long time.

    Notes
    • Rankings are based solely on projected ‘09-10 performance.
    • Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
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    • pietro Posted: Oct.9 at 8:05 am
      first

    • josh Posted: Oct.9 at 8:07 am
      OOHHH I there might be a few Laker fans complaining about this…

    • josh Posted: Oct.9 at 8:09 am
      oh yah… First!, and Second!

    • josh Posted: Oct.9 at 8:09 am
      First and second!

    • josh Posted: Oct.9 at 8:10 am
      why are my comments not showing up?

    • Lazaruz Posted: Oct.9 at 8:10 am
      FIRST! IMO should have been named to all nba 1st team last year, could be ranked a bit higher.

    • josh Posted: Oct.9 at 8:11 am
      Now they show up… that sucks lol now i have the first 5 comments!

    • Bryan Posted: Oct.9 at 8:21 am
      I thought he was gonna be higher , great player.

    • Hisham Posted: Oct.9 at 8:35 am
      I agree with this listing, and I enjoy reading John Krolik. win-win!

    • LOAF Posted: Oct.9 at 8:37 am
      i have read all of the top 50 articles, and this one is my favourite well written and a interesting read MUCH PROPS

    • josh Posted: Oct.9 at 8:43 am
      Roy going to make it to the top 10? I hope so! Im a huge blazer fan.. Gasol i might have put at 12.. but not a big deal, he is a solid player.

    • Michael Posted: Oct.9 at 8:49 am
      finally a well thought out, well constructed argument to back up the ranking, why cant all of the write ups have been like this? I think he is a tope ten player in the league, so this seems slightly too low to me, i would take him any day of the wek over bosh

    • rog123 Posted: Oct.9 at 8:49 am
      Best pf all last season.

    • Ken Posted: Oct.9 at 8:57 am
      I bet this post reaches 100 comments because of all the idiots doing multiple posts to try and say “firsteeez!”
      Oh, and has Artest appeared yet? And I would put Roy around 10 or 11.

    • Brad Long Posted: Oct.9 at 9:09 am
      Solid spot for a player who could dethrone Tim and Kev as the undisputed best power forward in the game right now, depending on how healthy they are this year.

    • Ronron Posted: Oct.9 at 9:19 am
      Seems like it’s going to finish with a tie at 1st place… 14 names remaining : Lebron, kobe, dwyane, chris, dwight, carmelo, kevin, tim, kevin (the second tarantula), dirk, yao, chris, brandon and deron (not necessarly at this order). Right?

    • Michael Posted: Oct.9 at 9:22 am
      Here the remaining list in order:
      1. Lebron
      2. Kobe
      3. Wade
      4. CP3
      5. Duncan
      6. KG
      7. Dirk
      8. Dwight
      9. Durant
      10. Deron
      11. Melo
      12. Roy
      13. Bosh

    • Eboy Posted: Oct.9 at 9:23 am
      Until this guy plays a bit of defense……..he’ll be steps below the players Lakers fans (like the rube above me) try to make him out to be.

    • rog123 Posted: Oct.9 at 9:26 am
      He does play defense. Pretty well if I might add

    • josh Posted: Oct.9 at 9:34 am
      Michael Posted: Oct.9 at 9:22 am
      Here the remaining list in order:
      1. Lebron
      2. Kobe
      3. Wade
      4. CP3
      5. Duncan
      6. KG
      7. Dirk
      8. Dwight
      9. Durant
      10. Deron
      11. Melo
      12. Roy
      13. Bosh You are nuts!!! Durant in the top 10??? Deron above Roy and Melo? First of all, the coaches in the league clearly think that Roy is better than Deron which is proven by them choosing Roy for the All star game the last 2 years over Deron… Durant has no defense.. not top ten.. I would not have put durrant ahead of gasol. durrant is on a loosing team where he can jack up as many shots as he wants. I would also like to suggest(however unpopular this suggestion may be) that wade is #1. Dwade does so much with so little… I know not many will agree because they believe either kobe or lebron are the best, but i dont care. Also, howard should be above duncan kg and dirk.. all of those guys are old and will not produce this year like they have in the past.

    • tavoris Posted: Oct.9 at 9:37 am
      Great player…this pick is probably low for him (I’d put him at 10), but the write up is WONDERFUL.

    • Brad Long Posted: Oct.9 at 9:38 am
      I agree with E, I mean, had he been able to remotely slow down Dwight Howard the Lakers would be Champs right now. Wait a second…

    • Eboy Posted: Oct.9 at 9:44 am
      How’d he do the year before against KG? I can’t remember that either.

    • Bryan Posted: Oct.9 at 9:45 am
      A center not being able to slow down dwight is like a point guard not being able to stop tony parker.

    • josh Posted: Oct.9 at 9:57 am
      13. Durrant
      12. Bosh
      11. Deron
      10. Melo
      9. KG (he is going to have a slow start)
      8. Duncan (can he stay healthy?
      7. Dirk (7 footer that doesnt play d or rebound)
      6. Roy (BA… and i am a blazer homer, but i admit it)
      5. Howard
      4. Paul
      2-3 Lebron and Kobe (I dont want to pick who is better than who here…
      1. Dwade

    • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.9 at 10:03 am
      Second best big man in the world at the moment.

    • Brad Long Posted: Oct.9 at 10:05 am
      E:He sucked, but I’ve heard a rumor that sometimes if you work hard at improving parts of your game in the offseason it works sometimes. Considering his performace during the entire season last year, I think it would be hard with any remote basketball knowledge to argue that Pau isn’t a better defender now than he was two seasons ago.

    • Eboy Posted: Oct.9 at 10:10 am
      Without a doubt, B. I’m just not convinced he has the fire and ability on the defensive end that a career’s worth of effort from guys like KG and The Robot put in and have proven in championship runs and fantastic seasons themselves. Just me. Happy B-Day, btw!

    • Michael Posted: Oct.9 at 10:11 am
      Josh, you are a blazer homer, thanks for clearing that up, your previous rant didnt make that clear.

    • Royal Posted: Oct.9 at 10:11 am
      Dwade is nice but,im not sure if he’s above Kobe or Lebron

    • Lonnie Long Posted: Oct.9 at 10:18 am
      I like Pau’s game

    • Eboy Posted: Oct.9 at 10:19 am
      Dwyane will have a bigger statistical season than Kobe and maybe a very similar one to Lebron with Shaq sharing the offensive load more now. He should still be third on the list though.

    • jude Posted: Oct.9 at 10:21 am
      most complete big man in the league 1)Wade
      2)LeBron
      3)Kobe
      4)Dwight
      5)CP3
      6)Dirk
      7)TD
      8)KG
      9)Roy
      10)Durant
      11)Melo
      12)DWill
      13)Bosh

    • Brad Long Posted: Oct.9 at 10:32 am
      If Wade can get his team to the 4th or 5th spot in the East with the stats he’ll have to put up this season in order for his team to be successful he’s my preseason favorite for MVP, with CP3 coming in close second. Of course thats gonna be super tough for Wade to do this year with the Wizards back to full strength. And thanks for the birthday wishes, E.

    • sab Posted: Oct.9 at 10:35 am
      great write-up! he could maybe have hit the top ten but i remember all the fools last year calling for him to be all-nba first team - no, he’s not THAT good. but i’d agree that he’s about as good a “Pippen” as you could get these days - an amazing 2nd option.
      i’d be amazed if the top 5 aren’t bron, kobe, wade, cp3 and dwight (in whatever order). they were the top 5 on the NBA’s “Race2MVP” rankings practically the whole of last season. and Melo and BRoy “got next”. after that i don’t care too much…

    • Eboy Posted: Oct.9 at 10:36 am
      Super tough is very accurate.

    • Gerard Himself Posted: Oct.9 at 10:37 am
      John, once again a great article. I’d like to point out one thing: when you mentioned Keith Van Horn almost being traded for Pippen, the link you provided sparked my interest as a Nets fan. Why? Because I’ve never heard of it. The article you linked tells that Chicago wanted to trade Pippen to Vancouver for the number 4 pick in the Draft, to get T-Mac, not Van Horn.

    • jdn41 Posted: Oct.9 at 10:39 am
      im from toronto and love bosh but pau gasol is a better player than bosh in my opinion i was also shocked to see tony parker ranked lower than bosh, and for the past 5 years based on public opinion everywhere it seems that amare was a better player too just interesting to see bosh being recognized on that note HAPPY BIRTHDAY B-LONG (don’t waste your birthday wish on bynum making the all star team lol)

    • Klav Posted: Oct.9 at 11:07 am
      No Pau, no championship. Any Lakers fan knows that, here’s to hoping all the chemistry goes well this year and we’re able to come out with a half decent season. Lets grab another one boys!

    • Allenp Posted: Oct.9 at 11:23 am
      I like Pau. He was a lot less soft last year. Cause KG took his manhood the year before in the Finals.
      I hope the Lakers and Celtics get that rematch this year. That would be a crazy series.

    • Matthew Posted: Oct.9 at 12:01 pm
      You people who are ranking LeBron over Kobe don’t know anything about basketball. Kobe was just voted “NBA Player of the Decade.” Not to mention the fact that “Prince” James doesn’t have a ring yet. If Kobe wanted to average more points, assists, and rebounds he clearly could. Give it a rest. James will be number one when Kobe is no longer in his prime.

    • TADOne Posted: Oct.9 at 12:02 pm
      Meh.

    • Ryne Nelson Posted: Oct.9 at 12:10 pm
      Pau Gasol is no match for Shaun Pruitt!

    • Yesse Posted: Oct.9 at 12:21 pm
      This is probably where Pau lands in the chart.I wouldnt put KG over him, because we havent really seen him after his knee injury.Looks like slam likes to gamble.

    • Brad Long Posted: Oct.9 at 12:25 pm
      Hi Tad!

    • niQ Posted: Oct.9 at 12:36 pm
      This is about where I have him on my Fantasy league. Lol

    • rog123 Posted: Oct.9 at 12:42 pm
      Hey matt, bron hasn’t even been in the nba for a decade so I don’t know what that’s gotta do with anythin.plus this list is not about the past Josh, you say wade is 1 because he carries his team, well isn’t that just like durant? Only wade has a better team.

    • Silencer Posted: Oct.9 at 12:42 pm
      Pau was the best 4 of the league last year, he played better than Tim, KG, Bosh or anyone as PF. He is smart, very smart. And also last year defended Howard quite well. I think he is just below the NBA holy cows (kobe, Lebron, Wade, Howard maybe…) I put it at 10, like someone said “No Pau, no ring…”

    • James the balla Posted: Oct.9 at 12:49 pm
      Hey Teddy - Just about yesterdays post. Dwight is not the second best in the NBA but his stats are 22-14-3-3-2 this year I think. He is guaranteed top center and most double doubles. There is a chance he could be second. That is all I am saying.

    • j4zzm4n21 Posted: Oct.9 at 12:50 pm
      dude has such a diverse skillset lakernation knows that he was the final piece of the puzzle.could someone please explain why baby ice is ranked higher than the gas-man ?

    • Brad Long Posted: Oct.9 at 12:58 pm
      ^I think it’s because KD is gonna avg. 30 this year. It’s hard to not put a guy who avg. 30 pts in the top 10, even if he hasn’t developed into a great defender yet.

    • NUPE Posted: Oct.9 at 1:06 pm
      This isn’t a bad spot for him. A lot of arguments can be made about how he compares to a bosh, kg, or duncan. he certainly doesn’t have the careers as a kg or duncan but for next season only he could compare to them. So much is about system and who you have around you, odom, artest and kobe will make his role that much easier.

    • dfrance Posted: Oct.9 at 1:10 pm
      I have no comment on the ranking as i think the qualifications for making the list make no sense. They say its projection for next yr, yet they are gonna put TD and KG above Pau, when they both had arguably the worst seasons of their careers last year while Pau got better.

    • j4zzm4n21 Posted: Oct.9 at 1:10 pm
      Thanks for that Mr.Long , but it just annoys me slightly that a more complete player is ranked lower than a less complete , albiet with great potential , player due to high scoring abilty on a team that is years away from threatening in any way, shape or form.

    • UnRel Posted: Oct.9 at 1:11 pm
      good read… good spot for pau.. right at the cusp of the heavy hitters of the league.. without kobe.. and on a contender.. he’d probably be higher.. however.. i don’t like speaking on ‘ifs’.. cause what is.. is that he’s a great player on a great team with an all-time great.. which means.. this is a good spot for him.. although Bosh’s impact on his team is more important than Pau’s.. Bosh’s game is light years behind the Spaniard’s..

    • dfrance Posted: Oct.9 at 1:20 pm
      And the argument that its somehow “easy” to average a bunch of points on a sucky team in the NBA is stupid. You have to be good in order to average 20+ points in the NBA period. KD increased his ppg and rebs last season from his rookie yr. And if you think he was just jacking up shots his fg% went up as well.

    • niQ Posted: Oct.9 at 1:22 pm
      So.. Bosh is next?

    • christian wells Posted: Oct.9 at 1:48 pm
      it came 2 me lastnite that it would b gasol at 14 any higher i would hv had some questions about this list,#14 was 2me the hardest one 2 pick,i had 2 look at every NBA roster and try and figure who would b here at 14, 1st i thought M.ellis but he was injured last year,and 14 would hv been high regardless(even though i think he’ll hv a awesome season)then gasol came 2 me as he hadnt been listed and he deserved 2b n the top50,BUT isnt this list based on supposed production this season,i think it is.if so i would hv had D.granger higher and (some can hate)…D.ROSE he’s gonna hv a monster season he’ll be as goo if not better than cp3 and deron williams n 3seasons.now since this list is about this seasons production lebron #1, D.wade #2,CP3 #3,KOBE #4,I think D.howard #5,…o yeah i think u guys could hv added a rookie (maybe ur against it idk)BUT I think B.griffin will avg 18-20pts-and probably 9-10rebs he coulda been n the 40’s

    • James the balla Posted: Oct.9 at 1:59 pm
      For the record: I hate Rick Kamla!! Talks sh1t about Kobe and then sucks up face to face.
      That is all.

    • Brad Long Posted: Oct.9 at 2:19 pm
      I noticed that too, James. He kinda seems like a total douche.

    • Adam Fleischer Posted: Oct.9 at 2:32 pm
      Ryne you damn homer you.

    • Ken Posted: Oct.9 at 3:29 pm
      Wouldn’t it be amazing if Derrick Rose showed up on this list again, like, around #8? That would be the most amazing and hilarious thing ever.

    • jdote Posted: Oct.9 at 3:33 pm
      I really like Gasol but let me provide a counter argument, in the wake that Pau Gasol Duncan and KG are to be considered top 15 players by this list. My problem is that KG and Gasol especially, and Duncan at this stage in their career are basically great second options.. the best second options you can have no doubt. However, if you think about every championship team of the past 16 yrs (im only 20 so lets not go too far back) they all feature a player whose a threat to score 40 and avg 30 per a series… Gasol can’t really do that, unless playin against a Warriors frontline or somethin.. I kno he’s smart, a good rebounder and very skilled… I just don’t buy the fact that u’d take him over amare considering amare can really be a goito player..

    • James the balla Posted: Oct.9 at 3:42 pm
      Yeah. He specifically will talk bad about Kobe, say he is not a good leader, Bron has been better then him since day one. But on this real training camp show. He sucks up to Kobe. Then when Kobe leaves, he makes the slightest of jabs. I remember watching his fantasy show on NBATV when I was 17/18. And getting so annoyed at that hate he had on for Kobe. I really wish Artest would do an interview with him and f()ck with his head lol. But anyways, good spot for Pau. I don’t think anyone would argue if he was top 10. But top 15 producers for next year is not easy to arrange in a certain number. O and Brad … who is the guy with the dreads in the Lakers practice? He doesn’t look that good so I am hoping he is just a pylon or something.

    • Ryne Nelson Posted: Oct.9 at 3:52 pm
      Glad someone caught that, Adam. ;)

    • jbn74sb Posted: Oct.9 at 4:04 pm
      Gasol is the best complimentary player in the league, next to LeBron.

    • Brad Long Posted: Oct.9 at 4:05 pm
      James: It’s Mikeal Gelabale. He’s pretty much an energy dude from France. Kind of a poor man’s Turiaf.

    • tavoris Posted: Oct.9 at 4:05 pm
      jdote, not the Pistons. they rarely had a player drop 25 pts. And Gasol is inifinitely more well-rounded than Amare…more post moves, a better mid-range shot, better rebounder, defender, passer. Amare is so freakishly athletic, which makes up the gap a bit.

    • tavoris Posted: Oct.9 at 4:06 pm
      lol @ jbn74sb.

    • davidR Posted: Oct.9 at 4:11 pm
      tough read. i still have no idea what your spoiler alert is trying to say. regardless, gasol is supremely skilled, and very underrated. remember that this dude led the grizzlies to the playofs

    • sab Posted: Oct.9 at 4:24 pm
      lol @ DavidR - that really was horribly worded. basically, the top 13 players all play for different teams…!

    • Bryan Posted: Oct.9 at 4:47 pm
      Bodie ftw.

    • Z Posted: Oct.9 at 4:49 pm
      Pau is a heck of a basketball player… but it’s the same ol’ Pau with different circumstances. What he is doing now is exactly what he was doing in Memphis. The stat line has not changed since his rookie year! I don’t disagree with the ranking, I just take his ‘improvement’ with a grain of salt. He was always doing work on the low block but nobody cared because Memphis sucked.

    • Brad Long Posted: Oct.9 at 5:12 pm
      Z:He’s put on noticable muscle since then and he’s twice the defender he was even two seasons ago. In fact, during his rookie and soph years he was more of a perimeter styled 4 similar to KG than the low post beast he is today. It took a minute but those Hubie Brown lessons finally took.

    • albie1kenobi Posted: Oct.9 at 5:50 pm
      how come lakers fans aren’t saying thanks to the grizz every day?

    • Russ Bengtson Posted: Oct.9 at 6:21 pm
      Unless Pau is playing for free (what a bargain!), he’s a complEmentary player.

    • vc cleveland Posted: Oct.9 at 6:56 pm
      Every year someone says what someone else does with so little what about what Lebron has done with so little he went to the finals with bums and no one gave him credit for that dont get me wrong im not saying that wade is not good but give credit when it is due its not his fault he is so young and so good,why cant he be the best in the nba shaq said it best the cavs is the best team he has ever been on(nba.com).Cavs to win it all and I have been a cavs fan for 29 years and counting. To all the haters you will be a witness this year. East Cleveland Stand Up.

    • Afonso Posted: Oct.9 at 7:39 pm
      IM SHOCKED!!! HOW IN THIS WORLD BOSH IS BETTER THAN GASOL!??!?!!? PAU LED THE FREAKIN GRIZZLIES TO THE PLAOFFS!!!! BOSH CAN NOT DO THAT IN A BETTER TEAM…
      I KNOW, HES WHITE, NOT AMERICAN AND NOT FLASHY.

    • walt williams Posted: Oct.9 at 8:19 pm
      There won’t be another player like Pau until a guy like Spencer Hawes comes along. Believe it.

    • B-more Mike Posted: Oct.9 at 8:48 pm
      All of you people claiming Pau is soft, do you know what it is to actually play against someone better than you and know that you have a way to go and have the desire to improve and toughen up that bet you it wouldn’t happen again. If you Kev would do the same thing you’re crazy!!!! The learned a career’s worth of lessons in that finals and will be forever better from that!!

    • B-more Mike Posted: Oct.9 at 8:51 pm
      A lot of gramatical errors blain it on the 1738

    • BUUGI Posted: Oct.9 at 9:01 pm
      the article is too biased, too emotional (words like fabulous, amazing, devastating, deadly, incredible) to be analytical journalism. it just really annoyed. otherwise well written. should be higher

    • catalan Posted: Oct.9 at 10:06 pm
      Pau is a PF, not a Center. People say Gasol is soft. What’s happened with your animal, 20-20 per game, Dwight Howard last June? Still cry bitches.
      Pau is a top 10 right now. Kobe without Pau is like D-Wade. Pau is a great basketball player. Basketball. Only 7,8 players betters right now. (LeBron, Kobe, Wade) Not Chris Paul, Bosh, Melo, KG, no no no.
      Dwight must learn to play like Pau, then he will be #1.

    • catalan Posted: Oct.9 at 10:10 pm
      14? no. he’s a top 8,9 right now. if you see last season, you must accept. he destroyed dwight howard, yes, mr. 20-20. our soft catalan, destroyed your american animal. top-8.

    • Celtic Knight Posted: Oct.9 at 10:28 pm
      Well this year I believe Paul Pierce will be in top ten and Rondo might sneak in the top 20. Pau Gasol is a very good player but he’s definately not as good as Paul Pierce and KG. Pau needs to work on his defense and toughness right night he still to soft.

    • Celtic Knight Posted: Oct.9 at 10:29 pm
      Oh and KG is going to kick his ass all over the court mark my words.

    • Steve Posted: Oct.9 at 10:56 pm
      Gasol will be better this season than Melo, Bosh, and possibly Duncan. Lakers/Spurs, which should be your Western Conference Finals, will come down to the battle between the two of them.

    • Steve Posted: Oct.9 at 10:58 pm
      Celtic Knight, are you dreaming? Paul Pierce was given too much credit in the spot he got, let alone being top ten!!

    • Jukai Posted: Oct.10 at 12:52 am
      Okay… Why is no one talking about Dirk as the best PF in the game right now? Because you know, he sort of is.
      Also, I’m fine with Bosh being this high, but not higher than Pau. Unless there is a belief that Bosh will break out next season (since this is judging for next season).

    • Shelton Posted: Oct.10 at 12:53 am
      I hope kobes # 1…but I know it’s gonna be lebron. On other websites he is already the hands down MVP. Pretty tired of the jocking.

    • Double J Posted: Oct.10 at 2:36 am
      KOBE BRYANT… Black Mamba… KB24… ex-KB8… The Assassin… no one compares.

    • sab Posted: Oct.10 at 3:36 am
      kobe fans live in a dreamworld… if you swapped Kobe and LeBron, the Lakers would DESTROY the league, no question…

    • Jack Posted: Oct.10 at 4:27 am
      You do all remember that this list is based off expectations of performance this coming year. Pretty sure KG and Duncan are going to have less of an impact than Melo and Roy. If either of those two goes down, their team immediately goes from contender to low-seed. However, if KG or Duncan go down, they still remain competitive. San Anton still got 3rd seed last year, and Boston still had a respectable playoff run. Not to mention the injury concerns, age etc with both KG and TD anyway. Melo and Roy both should be top 6 at least now.

    • J.C. Posted: Oct.10 at 5:12 am
      Great write-up. I really like Gasol; very happy for him that he got out of Memphis and put his skills to use.

    • Jukai Posted: Oct.10 at 5:33 am
      Jack: Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Dwight, Chris, Deron, Dirk… Maybe Roy makes top six, but if Melo goes down in Denver, they may have enough fire power to make it.

    • Solon Posted: Oct.10 at 5:39 am
      NO way Bosh is better. And I hate the friggin Lakers (Dubs fan), but he is a killer. Bosh quit on his team last season, plays just as “soft”-if not more-as Gasol. Gasol slows down Dwight after he murders the mighty Cavs,is a good rebounder, great scorer, shooter, passer, everything you want from a big man. Bosh is a bit overrated i think.
      My list from now….
      13. Bosh
      12. Deron
      11. KG
      10.Durant
      9.Roy
      8.Duncan
      7. Dirk
      6. Melo
      5. CP3
      4. Howard
      3. Kobe
      2. Wade
      1. Bron

    • josh Posted: Oct.10 at 6:35 am
      I dont know about the list directly above me. Its hard to put mello at 6. He is not really a leader. Biilups had to come in to take over the leader role because mello couldnt. Durrant is not top 10!!! he should not have been top 15. He is way overrated.

    • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.10 at 7:03 am
      SPURS - OLYMIAKOS: 107 - 89(at least we were not humiliated…). A good performance from an Olympiakos team that after it entered the game very nervous (many of the expected mistakes due to the differences that Kleiza and Jukai mentioned before the game) and was left behind 39-21 at the first period, it succeded to balance the game and have a good third period where “Big Sofo” and Wafer were able to excel (with Duncan and Parker at the bench….).At the 4th period Olympiakos put in the game some of the guys form the junior team(under 19 years) to taste the NBA atmosphere…. Spurs were led by Parker(12) and Duncan (10) while Olymiakos had “Big Sofo” with 16 and Wafer&Josh both with 15 points….i’ll give you a link with some videos. Sunday night we play against the Cavs.

    • PANAGIOTIS VASILOPOULOS Posted: Oct.10 at 7:06 am
      and now the links: http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/198858

    • doyouwantmore Posted: Oct.10 at 2:55 pm
      Here’s the rest of the list.
      13. Boobie Gibson
      12. Vanessa Bryant
      11. Windows Vista
      10. Jesus Shuttlesworth’s dad from “He Got Game”
      9. Chris Rock
      8. Justin Timberlake
      7. Tyrannosaurus Rex
      6. Deron Williams
      5. Jean Luc Picard
      4. Tim Horton
      3. World Wide Wes
      2. Shaun of the Dead
      1. Batman And the Milwaukee Bucks just won the 2010 Championship for all the games they would like to win.

    • Irfan Posted: Oct.10 at 4:21 pm
      Pau is, in my opinion, far more effective than Bosh or Durant or even Dwight Howard. And he will be next year too, of course. He is competing only with TD, KG and Dirk, as far as bigs who can extend are concerned. Also, you have to take in account the FIBA player, he is one of the greates. His last 5 games in the Eurobasket were just stunning, he couldn’t be stopped. The guy dribbles so well for a 7-footer… he defended against D-Howard very well too in the Finals… he is a splendid passer… he is a very clever player.
      Though, I hate his complaining attitude, and the spanish players these days all seem to me both stupid and preposterous. Rudy just can’t speak english, but he still shows off, for example.
      I’m a bit far from the subject here, but just to say : for me, Parker & Gasol should be higher, but we all know you American believe in steroids more than in basketball IQ so Howard tops, Melo is high too, and Amar’e was higher than Billups (!).
      Hope that you will rank Roy top-10 at least, he is such a good player, all-around, very humble, I like him very much. Batum said how nice and inspirating a guy he was, who took care of foreign rookies etc. Really a guy for the next decade, MVP-in-being, Top 5 in 2010. Melo should be like 15, Bosh 14, howard more like 7-8, and Pau n°6-7. With Billups 12 and Parker 13, or vice-versa. At least, Billups ahead of Melo.

    • Anton Posted: Oct.10 at 7:47 pm
      lol @ doyouwantmore

    • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Oct.10 at 10:10 pm
      doyouwantmore, you only left out Derrick Rose.

    • Flashback Posted: Oct.11 at 9:35 am
      Sab… don’t worry homie. You’re gonna get your wish. LeBron will one day sign with the Lakers. The greatest sports franchise of the modern era.

    • DFIELDS Posted: Oct.11 at 9:36 pm
      Man kobe better be number one…if not…there something wrong!!kobe just won his 4th ring…and put 32.4ppg…7.5assits…5.5rebs this past finals…and that hasnt been done since jordan and jerry west….lebron had a nice postseason run…but failed at the end…and everybody and the damn media was picking lebron to take it all…it was just alot of dickriding…kobe prevailed at the end…while putting up 30.2ppg…5.6rebs and 5.5assits the whole entire postseason..while taking it all…kobe is the man…he better be num 1 on slam..just like the past three year he was num 1 on slam

    • Celtic Knight Posted: Oct.24 at 10:36 pm
      The Truth will let you know Steve. Pau will get better and in some ways he is better than Dirk and have more offensive skills than D. Howard. If we the Celts stay healthy then we should meet either Spurs or Lakers.

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