All-Star ‘11: Second Balloting Returns

Vince Carter has 185,213 votes.

no Rudy Gay? cmon,the guy deserves to be an all star after what he did to LBJ.

So whoever “wins” the western center spot is a dead lock for worst all star ever in my opinion… who’s their competition? I think Jamal Magloire or Chris Kaman… who do y’all think is the worst all star ever? not least deserving because I know VC and Yao have both been voted in injured(theoretically someone who hasn’t played at all would be less deserving than someone who plays and sucks)… I’m talking worst skill-wise

CP3 is head and shoulders above any PG in the L. LOL at people mentioning casual fans, for the KG’S, Yao’s & Shaq’s (who is second in C voting in the East) then maybe it’s relevant. In CP3′s case no it isn’t. Who here has watched more than ten games this year of both D-Will and CP? If you have and still have D Will 1st then we can debate it all day. Lets just look at stats:
CP3 – 16.6, 9.8, 4.4, 2.8 stl, 2.4 to’s, 50% fg, 46% 3fg, 91% FT, in 34 minutes a game.
D Will – 22.3, 9.4, 4.0, 1.2 steals, 3.3 TO’s, 47% FG, 37% 3FG, 85 % FT, in 38 minutes a game.
So, CP3 is better in every statistic (including ass/TO ration) apart from scoring, whilst taking less shots and playing less minutes. Unless you watch CP3 consistently (which most people don’t) then you shouldn’t comment. If you do, then you should know CP3 is the best PG in the L.

CP3 is an innovator at drawing fouls too… he has that dribble-in-front-of-his-dude-then slow down move, so the guy gets beat then trys to chase him and ends up fouling… he also has a -make-a-face-throw-a- hard-dribble whilst leaning away from “contact” move he does whenever anyone gets near his hip that draws a lot of fouls-lots of dudes are tryin to do these two moves also now but he’s definitely the best at it, and I may be wrong but he seemed to be doin them first… people IN THE NBA are copying his moves…which is I guess a way of saying he’s actually changing the game…his shooting% is retarded right now, he clearly got his shots up in practice when he was recovering from the knee injury…add in that a lot of these guys are really combo guards…I don’t want to rant here, but…even with the injury, if you offered CP3 straight up for ANY PG- the other GM would be going for it- even the jazz… no disrespect to Deron Williams or any of those other dudes

Who the hell is voting for Rondo over Rose??!! This is just ri-god-d*mn-diculous and Blake Griffin should start, ASG is about fun, dunks and stuff, who’s more exciting than Blake? Nobody, that’s who. Dwill behind CP3, yeah right, I think fan voting should be stopped, just let coaches, GM´s and those kind of people vote, because, obviosuly, fans suck.

And, you say ASG is about ‘fun, dunks & stuff’. You think any Coaches or GM’s are putting Blake in the game over Timmy D or Carmelo RIGHT NOW? don’t contradict yourself.

Reading my initial comment, I mis spoke/typed when I said that the casual fan is a reason for KG currently in a starters spot. He is rejuvenated this year, and is the best PF in the East, regardless of Amar’e terrific play.

Some candidates for worst all star (no disrespect to these guys, they just suck compared to other all stars)- Kaman, Magliore, Mo Williams, Tyronne Hill, Wally Sczerbiak…

for those too lazy to look, Stockton, Olajuwon,Worthy, Pippen, Rodman, Nique, Mark Price, Dumars, Mutombo….were all on the BENCH….

Apologies, Pippen started, he didn’t come off the bench. Pip replaced the injured Larry Bird in the starting lineup….
Which is an amazing sentence to type in itself!

Hey Twatter, please don’t lump us in w/ the China fans, I for one am not delusional just factional. (I don’t vote, just enjoy the game) to BlackPhantom, KG is near the top for the east b/c he has been playing great, point blank. (facts = his stats are on point w/ Amare’s and some are better w/ less minutes. My man miguel should watch some games and look at the stats for old man Shaq who’s FG% is 2nd among centers w/ 20 plus games and 1st among “top centers”. He brings things to the table that some others don’t. I’m not saying Shaq should start or even make the team (I wouldn’t be mad if he did) but don’t question his play this season. You make it sound like his play sucks this year. come on ppl!

And LOL at whoever said that CP3 doesn’t will his teams to victory. When people actually watch NOH then talk. Utah have been on ESPN & TNT several times this year, so the ‘casual fans’ have plenty of chance to see him. CP3 hasn’t been on once. Unless you have League Pass then you ain’t gonna see CP regularly, if you do have LP and you watch CP3 then you will know he is better.

I use stats b/c no matter what someone writes there are always going to be a few that says it’s favoritism but stats don’t always tell the whole truth about a player. The situations and the makeup of the team has an effect on a players stats. With that said, CP# & Dwill are very statistically close. assts& rbs almost identical, to’s separated b 1, FG% goes to CP3 by 3%, FT% to CP3 by 6%, stls to CP3 by almost 2, double doubles to DWill by 2 and pts to DWill by 6. I personally don’t have a preference but would take either one on My C’s squad.

Well that settles it then. How many times have you watched CP this year?

Wait, voting for Rondo as a starter over Rose is ridiculous?! I don’t mind people voting for Rose. Great player. Deserves to start. But Rondo deserves to start as well. He was averaging 29 assists and zero turnovers when he got hurt, or at least that’s what it seemed like. Rondo can stack up against any PG in the league. Ridiculous would be Raymond Felton or Mike Bibby ahead of Rose.

+ Who would you rather see, I guy who throws up alley-oops, or the guy who can dunk with the best of em AND throws up alley-oops. Rondo’s assists are great, but Rose has to be one of the top 5 most exciting players to watch. Sounds like a perfect fit in the ASG to me.

I have Rose as a starter in the east as well with Rondo coming off the bench

My East for sures: (F) LBJ, Amare, KG & PDouble (G) Rose, RR, DWade & Ray (C) Howard & Horford plus Shaq & Noah My West for sures: (F) Durant, Anthony, Dirk, Gasol (G) Westbrook, Kobe, CP3, DWil (C) BGriff plus KLove and TD or Manu It’s not perfect but it’s mine which is subject to change at any time. lol

I think Miami should have 3, Boston should have 4. That doesn’t really leave much room for rest of the conference.

Monta Ellis should get some consideration. The guy brings it every night

I don’t rate Nash as high as most because often the best point in the league is whoever Nash is guarding

Monta is legit no doubt, there are so many guards that are right there it’s tough to decide at times..it’s just a matter of taste and allegiance I guess. It should be good regardless of who is left off of the team.

Stephen Jackson just took the worst crunch time shot I ever saw… down one eight seconds… Captain Jack nonchalantly lets the clock run out before hoisting up a DEEP three… down ONE…wtf drive to the hoop

Which guards are the coaches picking out West? Great PGs on losing teams…- Steve Nash. Or Great PGs on winning teams…-Deron Williams? And that Centre position is atrocious – Start Pau at centre with Melo and Dirk at the forwards. Coaches vote B. Griffin for a back up Centre. That solves a position problem for an exhibition game and we will get some terrific videogame style dunks…