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Thursday, January 27th, 2011 at 10:33 am  |  56 responses

Fredette’s 43 Lifts BYU Over SD St.

by David Cassilo / @dcassilo

The National Player of the Year talk for Jimmer Fredette got a bit louder Wednesday night after his 43 points helped BYU knock off previously unbeaten San Diego State, 71-58.

Fredette was nearly unstoppable, hitting 14-of-24 shots from the field. He was just one of two Cougars to score in double figures, but that was enough to get past the Azetcs.

San Diego State’s star Kawhi Leonard had a great game in his own right, finishing with 22 points and 15 rebounds, despite battling an illness. However, the rest of his team combined to make just 14 shots, and the Aztecs fell from the ranks of the unbeaten.

The night belonged to Fredette, and his performance turned heads, even among NBA players.

From The Deseret News:

For Fredette, it was the 15th time he has scored over 30 points in his career and his fifth game with more than 40. It’s only the second time he’s scored more than 30 points at the Marriott Center. He had 36 last season against Utah.

“It wasn’t a goal of mine to score 40,” Fredette said, who nailed 14-of-24 from the floor, including five 3-pointers. “It was a goal to try to win the game.”

The nation was paying close attention to this game, and so, too was NBA star Kevin Durant, who declared on his Facebook page after the game, “Jimmer Fredette is the best scorer in the world!”

And then there was one. With San Diego State losing, Ohio State is now the only unbeaten team in the country. All eyes will be on the Buckeyes this Saturday when they try to avoid major upset at Northwestern.

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  • riggs

    to get passed the aztecs*, sorry for being a grammar nazi.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    kd just tryin to make him feel special

  • http://SLAMonline.com GotHandles?

    dude was unconscious. they gave him no space and he still made his own. very impressive.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    I’ve never seen someone consistently pull up from literally 8 feet behind the line and hit shots like that. That was his third 40+ point game in the last four games. Teams come in knowing he is the only scoring threat on that team and he still gets his points & assists. Ridiculous.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Jimmer Fredette must be a New Yorker. Oh wait, he is. lol

  • http://www.twitter.com/dfrance21 dfrance21

    Great college player. I wonder how his game will translate to the NBA.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    france, it wont.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Jimmer has Nashty in his blood.

  • Cizzo

    His game is Hello polished! Hardwork and staying dedicated to the program get you where you need to be! He’s unbelievably good! And he will pan out in the NBA!

  • Papa Smurf

    he’s going to be very good in the nba. anybody who says otherwise has no idea what they’re talking about.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    What is he going to play in the NBA?

  • Bibbyfan

    Nicholas Fleming you must be a ute. Thanks for your input. Come over to byu and we’ll educate you on good basketball. Jimmer will be great in the NBA.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    What position does Ben Gordon play in the NBA? Identical frames. Jimmer has better ball handeling and shooting though.

  • JTaylor21

    Jiminy cricket is not a better shooter than Gordon, maybe a better 3pt shooter but not a better mid-range shooter. This dude reminds me of the Caveman

  • tarriq

    and dont forget beg gordon came into the L much stronger than this guy too. I watch people attempt to back him down and it looks like theyre just not allowed to do it

  • Bibbyfan

    Fredette is a more well rounded version of JJ Redick. Better passer, more range, stronger finisher around the basket.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Don’t forget the athleticism. I’m 6-foot-1 and dunk harder than Jimmer. Kid can shoot and can hit shots with people in his grill, but he is not great at creating his own shot. Love him in the NCAA and he may even take BYU deep into March, but elite defenses in the NBA and athletic defenders at every position are going to make life hard on a 6-foot-2 shooting guard.

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    Diesel…your smoking….anyways, this whole 40 pts against Mountain West teams is getting weak to me…even if SDSU was unbeaten or whatever….BYU lost to UCLA….that tells me what I need to know about them competing in major conference play. Maybe he can become a Steph Curry type guy come tourney time…I’ll still have to see it to believe it….and its funny KD drops 47 and 18 and makes that statement lol

  • ccoop

    to little niki fleming: Fredette can’t create his own shot…Freaking wow! you just lost all credibility.

  • EGOT

    Great, great game. I’m doubtful about Jimmer’s success in the L, but he’s sure fun to watch right now.

    And one more thing. @ Riggs: It actually is “get past the Aztecs.”

  • toinefan88

    KD is stupid

  • riggs
  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    I lost all credibility because Fredette is not great at creating his own shot? Learn how to read. I didn’t say kid couldn’t do it, I said he isn’t great at it. And unless he magically becomes more quick and more athletic as he gets older, he is going to be a really good shooter in the NBA, but that is it. He is 6-foot-2 and like 200 pounds. When is the last time that bio screamed, “Potential”?

  • Papa Smurf

    Black Rick . . . Fredette dropped 49 on Arizona and 37 on Florida last year.

    I wonder what Nicolas Fleming said about Steven Nash when he was in college. Actually, I don’t. If you don’t think Fredette is great at creating his own shot, you haven’t watched him play much.

    I hate BYU, but Fredette is the real deal.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Steve Nash is a point guard and 6-foot-3 equipped with quicks and incredible court vision. Just because they are both white doesn’t mean they are the same player. And the 37 on Florida was in double OT, and Florida was 9-7 in the SEC…

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    Jimmer will not get minutes in the NBA. He is not Stephen Curry his basketball IQ does not compare. He has no playmaking ability for his teammates, atleast not anywhere near an NBA level. Kid can score, definitely would put up double digits in the NBA, but he would give up double digits even more consistently. Sorry, but this kid is a college force, he won’t even be a better pro then Kemba Walker

  • Papa Smurf

    We’ll see. I have a feeling I’m arguing with a bunch of people who have not seen him play more than 1 or 2 games. Even if Nash had no court vision at all, he’d see major minutes based on his shooting alone.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    I’ve watched Fredette play about 5 games this season. And I watched quite a few last season as well, the kid can score on college defenders. He can’t really distribute, and at the NBA level, those giant swooping back and forth crossovers will not give him so much space, and the defenders will be bigger, and more athletic then the ones he is torching at rebuilding schools or powerhouses from the mountain west conference. its like when people thought Jerry McNamara would be a good pro, or that JJ Reddick was somehow getting shafted by falling out of the top 10, college is so totally different then the NBA. Plus there is no way Fredette ever gets that kind of green light at the next level, he can take a 32 footer, airball it by 20 feet and not face a single damn consequence, the level of confidence that comes with that is being heavily underrated.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Hey remember Adam Morrison? He was really good in the NCAA, too. And he even scored 30 in the NBA, but he couldn’t guard Stan Van Gundy. Jimmer is amazing to watch. He’s fluid and the game comes easy, but he will be an average NBA player. Which is better than 97% of the population. But there is not one person out here who would draft him No. 1 overall. Not one.

  • Papa Smurf

    San Diego State has one of the most athletic teams in the country. Didn’t seem to bother him much last night. Nobody who knows anything about basketball thought McNamara would play a single second in the NBA. And I don’t remember anyone saying that JJ Reddick should have been drafted in the top 10. Fredette has far more potential than Reddick, and Reddick sees major minutes.

  • Papa Smurf

    Fleming, you’ve basically gone from suggesting that he won’t play in the NBA, to now saying he won’t be the no. 1 pick. I doubt I would take him with the no. 1 pick either.

  • Papa Smurf

    Fleming, how many times have you watched him play? Be honest.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    Fredette is 6’2, JJ Reddick is 6’4, that and Reddick has a better jumper (gasp), Fredette would have to grow to reach Reddick’s potential. And Reddick has very little potential, he’s pretty much what he is, a very hard working player, who is a knock down, sniper, and not that horrible of a defender. No matter what Fredette does, he will never even be a passable defender. He wouldn’t see significant minutes on any tema in the league, even golden state. And don’t try and compare San Diego State’s athletes to the guys in the NBA, thats an absolute joke right?

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    @Diesel. I could be wrong but I remember Eric Gordon hitting 3′s from way beyond the arc when he was in college, consistently. I think his highlights were always about that.

  • Papa Smurf

    Ok nbk,

    Think what you want – no matter how wrong you are.

  • http://Mrjones21901@aol.com Run’n'Gun219

    Hey Nicolas Fleming- Remember Adam Morrison did blow out his acl in the league so that might be a reason he never panned out. He was not the same after that. And if im not mistaking JJ Redick is turning out to be a good pro, he is a key contributor for a winning team. How about we wait and see. And that Ben Gordon comparison isnt a bad one at all

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    @papa smurf powerhouses…

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    This argument was based on what he will do in the NBA. I have no doubt that he will get on a roster. If Eddie House can make a roster, Jimmer can. What I’m saying is that he will be an average NBA player, and I don’t think I have said anything other than that. I’m not saying I don’t think he will be the No. 1 pick. I know he wont be the top pick. I’m saying he isn’t going to be the go-to guy in any franchise.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Yes, J.J. Redick is an average player. He picks his spots and contributes, but he isn’t even the third best player on his own team, and you want people to get amped to see Jimmer in the NBA? What Jimmer is doing now is unbelievable and I can’t wait to see him in March, but the game he has at BYU will not translate to the NBA.

  • Papa Smurf

    you said his game won’t translate to the nba. that certainly does not seem suggest that you believed that he would be an average nba player. at least you’re smart enough to change your position.

    black rick, you said he couldn’t compete in “major conference play”. most people consider the SEC and PAC-10 major conferences. nice try.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Oh, and yeah Morrison did blow out his knee, but that was after he lost his starting spot on the 2006 Charlotte Bobcats not even halfway through the season.

  • http://Mrjones21901@aol.com Run’n'Gun219

    He was a rookie when he blew out his knee. and so what if he’s not the 3rd best palyer. Why do you have to be 1st 2nd 3rd best player? If you are a good player you will always have a jpb in the league. everybody does not have to be a superstar

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    He was not a rookie when he blew out his knee. It was pre-season of his 2nd year.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    And you don’t have to be the first, second or third best player on your team. I never said that. What i said is Jimmer won’t be the best player on his team in response to others that said Jimmer is “going to be a great NBA player.” Great implies something special, not the fourth or fifth scoring option. I think great is thrown around much too often.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    who cares, Jimmer Fredette is not Adam Morrison. Either way, both guys were college powerhouses that don’t translate to very good pros. Don’t really need Jimmer to play an NBA game to know that, its just the way it is. If he learns to pass (nobody has ever just figured it out all of the sudden) then he could be a good off the bench scoring threat, but he won’t, he’ll likely be a scenario guy that comes in at the end of a half to take pressure away from an iso situation. That’ll be his role in the NBA (eddie houses role for the majority of his career has been the exact same if you’ve actually watched) and it won’t be a big deal.

  • http://Mrjones21901@aol.com Run’n'Gun219

    he hadnt stated the next season. so that makes him a rookie. lol

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    Jimmer Fredette 2010-11 (27PPG, 4Ast, 3Reb, 1Stl) — Eddie House 1999-00 (23PPG, 3.5Ast, 5Reb, 2Stl) House shot 1 more shot per game, I think that is the best comparison possible for Fredette. His best NBA season 9.8PPG, 1.8Ast, 1Reb. Should be something like that

  • Papa Smurf

    nbk,

    So you are going from saying that “Jimmer will not get minutes in the NBA” – to now saying that he may have a career like Eddie House. Glad you’ve changed your position.

  • EGOT

    Riggs: I hate being contentious online, but it is “past.” “Passed” is past-tense verb like that site says, but that’s negated when you use “get” before it. So, if it read “BYU passed the Aztecs” then it’d work. But it changes when you say “to get past the Aztecs.” Like I said though, it’s not my goal to contend. Just wanted to support David in what he wrote.

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    He will get some minutes at some point. Consistent minutes? A real contributing role? Actually make a difference on a good team? No, he will be a bench player, the type that is easy to find and cheap, like eddie house (relatively speaking). He won’t be good, and won’t see minutes on a defensive focused team. haven’t changed my position at all Papa Smug

  • http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Russell_vs._Wilt nbk

    I didn’t realize how much floor time Eddie House sees, he will not get that. Eddie House is a career 17 minute a game guy, I bet in Fredette’s 4 to 6 years as a pro he plays maybe 9 minutes a night, max.

  • Papa Smurf

    nbk,

    come back when you have your story straight. it’s impossible to argue with someone who flip-flops as much as you.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Flip flop because I didn’t realize how many minutes through Eddie Houses career he’s been playing, lol ok

  • Killer Bees

    nbk- Dude your delusional. No player in College hoops can create a shot like Jimmer. I have watched nearly all his games and it doesn’t matter who guards him or where he shoots from, he can get his shot off and score the ball, even over forwards in the lane at 6’8″!!! He held his own this past summer playing with the NBA elite and they all said the same thing, “see you next year” Jimmer is on another level, he is much better than JJ Redick and Adam Morrison so those comparisons are getting old. Jimmer is Jimmer, the most unique and best player in
    College hoops!

  • Killer Bees

    and his basketball IQ is what separates him from the rest not his scoring ability. Watch him play, closely, the guy is a genius, just rips teams apart, breaks them down. He is also a great passer. Jimmer wants to win first, so when he should have 3 assists and team mates aren’t finishing he just takes over the game. How many players can do that? 4 players on BYU up until the SDSU game were averaging double digit scoring and Jimmer has over 4 assists a game averahing 27.4 pts per game, he can’t pass? Dude do your homework before going on posts and writing a bunch of crap!

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I said he can score what are you talking about? I said he might even be a better scorer then curry, but his shots slower and no matter what tyusay curry’s the better passer there is not one shred of evidence to the contrary. Curry is also a much better defender and Curry isn’t that good. And that’s what is going to keep Jimmer glued to the bench IMO. What makes you soo convinced hes not only a better player but gonna be a better pro then two guys one specifically in reddick who scored more points against tougher competition and have more “pro player tools” anyway? I don’t get it, because he creates already difficult shots off the dribble and is shooting out of his mind, you think that will carryover to considerably larger, quicker, smarter competition? Because he played good in some open gyms and his dominating college dudes? Well so did a plethora of other guys that aren’t good pros, the majority infact

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