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Monday, July 11th, 2011 at 11:35 am  |  43 responses

Ray Allen ‘Embarrassed’ By Lockout Fight Over Money


Ray Allen tells the Boston Globe that it’s an embarrassment that the game is on hold because of dollars: “While team officials are banned from talking about the lockout or negotiations, players have the freedom to express their disappointment, and Allen understands his place in sports and society. The fact that millionaires are fighting with their bosses over a $4 billion pie is not lost on one of the game’s gentlemen. ‘I think of Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Dr. J, and I almost feel just . . . the money we make, not only as players but as owners, the money that’s in the loop is so outstanding, it’s almost embarrassing we can make this type of money and then we can haggle over what we haggle over,’ Allen said. ‘It’s important that the game is at an all-time high and I believe that those players in the ’70s and ’80s, they built us to this point to where we can afford the salaries that we all afford, and we just have to remember that. We’ve got to take this game to the next level and know that this is bigger than us.’”

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  • nick

    ray, classy as always. nicely said.

  • http://Yahoo! Chris Mullin’s Accent

    Ray Allen and Shane Battier > Derek Fisher and Maurice Evans

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    Coming from this overpaid guy…

  • Jer dawg

    Totally makes fans look stupid. Kids are the ones screwed by this. Adults are bitter throwing money at this garbage. Some GMs and owners blow. Some players sound stupid, i.e., Stephen Jackson. Claiming he deserves a new contract because he’s such a great leader and plays hard. Lmao! You are good player putting up numbers on bad team. Get over yourself. But, get what you can.

  • bull22

    little by little you can see not all players are interested in this lockout….

  • AD

    ill play pro ball for 15$ an hour lol…….. dese players and owners are asking too much……… A MILLION DOLLARS SHUD BE ABLE TO LAST A LOOOONG TIME

  • Towelie

    I read it: Ray Allen Embarrassed at Locker room fight over money >.<

  • marc

    there should be a replacement season. lol

  • JL

    how about they take the lower offer from each side, and then the difference they give to the fans. host clinics, food drives, free jerseys, shoes for needy kids… everyone wins!

  • DieselMechanic

    lol @ Chris Mullins Accent

  • robb

    Yeah, well businesses are about money Ray, and professional basketball is run by businessmen so…

  • Marcus Bastos

    I’ve always saw nba’s owners and players talking (specially after a trade): “It’s a business, and so on…”. Well, business takes care of nothing except money… The owners and the players want to earn more bucks. Maybe the nba’s fans (around the world) have the solution: pay more for this “amazing game”!?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Ray, you took a 2 year 20 million dollar contract. Nuff said. Obviously you get what you can get paid, but thats way to much money for a 2 year deal on a 2 guard past his prime. Things need to be fixed a little imo.

  • Rog23

    Ray didn’t put a gun to no ones head. If your boss offers you a higher salary than you deserve, wouldn’t you take it???

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Good analysis there Rog. You truly read what I said and made a very important discovery. Ray didn’t put a gun to anyones head. What insight. So what your telling me is 20 million for Ray Allen for 2 years sounds right? Right?

  • MzColumbo5529, aka MrsJordan

    I just thought I’d say one thing….late, but I can’t hold it anymore. AN NBA LOCK-OUT? REALLY STERN? It’s all about money. Lest we forget that the players earn the money that the FANS invest in them. The economy is still swimming in the crapper and the bottom line is – - that the fans will eat the cost. If the organization and the players must work something out consider what that decision could do to some of the strugglin franchises, hmmmmmmmm. First it’s an NFL lock-out from Goodell now this!!!!! I guess Selig didn’t want to go for a fart on the fans tri-fecta?

    Now we have some of our NBA players contemplating and/or going overseas to get their game on. Heck, Allen Iverson wants to come back to the play in the NBA something fierce. It looks like I need to write him and
    tell him to hold on. He might be able to recruit some of the American ‘lock-outs’ to his own team, and badda bing badda boom…..’lock-out dream alliance’ is born, lololol.

    I’m sayin, the agents is trying to take advantage of
    the situation, and get paid.

    Well, it’s a thought and it sounds nice. A lady can dream, can’t
    she, lol

    The only problem with that is if one of those said lock-out players gets hurt, then what??

    If nothing is resolved before the season starts, it looks like we’ll have to get satellite tv in order to watch some some of our favorite players.

    David Stern is an angry elf, and gettin more crabby in his old age.

    THANK GOD We still have Slam. The people at SLAM is so creative with it, that we won’t even miss the NBA. I LOVE THIS MAGAZINE!!

  • Rog23

    I never said his contract was appropriate. But I don’t put the blame on allen(or any other overpaid player) for ‘underperforming’. Its on the GMs for bad judgement.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I think things need to change when some of the NBA high earners are Rashard Lewis, and Gilbert Arenas, Joe Johnson. Your not thinking if that makes sense to you. I didn’t say it was Ray’s fault. He just is an example of why things need to change. If I were Ray, I would have asked for 30mill.

  • Rog23

    LakeShow I agree something should change. The GMs need to see and LEARN from their mistakes. Don’t pay your teams best player like he’s the best in the league. Let some other desperate franchise make that mistake

  • LeBron de Con

    Millionaires 1 Fans 0

  • ripslam

    Ray Allen is an athletic specimen, the greatest shooter of all time, killer in the clutch, and at 35 years old can still put up 25 points on any given night. Additionally, despite being the oldest of the Big Four, he is the most durable and arguably the most consistent. Maybe 10 mil a year isn’t a completely justified, but calling him overpaid is wrong.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    You contridicted your self. “Maybe 10 mill a year isn’t completly justified, but calling him overpaid is wrong.” He is overpaid. Doesn’t mean he isn’t good. He is amazing, but my point is the dude gets paid more than he should. Is that his fault, no. Is it the owners fault ya sorta. I don’t think that there is a wrong and a right position on this matter. That fact is they are getting paid more than they should. (I think) f*ck i dunno… Just let me watch NBA next season u AS$HOLES. lol

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign Chris Mullen’s Accent, just so I can say Chris Mullen’s Accent.

  • iLLwiLL

    HAHAHAHA at Chris Mullen’s Accent. Cracked me up.

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    Teams need to quit hiring GMs with no business acumen. Knowing the game of basketball doesn’t mean they won’t get burned in negotiations with an established agent. Bill Simmons has a nice ideas in his write up about the NBA lockout.

  • seriousblack

    If the owners are paying out these so-called “ridiculous” contracts it’s because they can afford it. If they couldn’t afford to operate, they wouldn’t. Period. The only thing that needs to be “fixed” is the idiots who actually dole the contracts out. The players don’t pay themselves. Lakeshow, do you have a stake in any professional team? I’m curious as to why a fan– whose ticket and merchandise prices stay the same no matter what the players make– can advocate cutting the salaries of the people who aren’t the ones taking any money from you. Unless you believe fans will actually catch a financial break from a reduction in player salaries your position is silly at best.

  • dookie

    Anybody’s willing to pick up an extra couple of mil,
    even if they don’t deserve it. But I think Shuttlesworth is one
    of the very few guys who’d be willing to drop that extra couple
    of mil to get play resumed.

  • Dyce

    None of the players over pay themselves, owners do. But it’s not as if this money comes from Owners pockets this revenue is generated and split with the players so they have all right to make the salaries that they do. There are millions being generated on the players backs, and popularity so they do have a say on how much they should get.

  • http://www.triplajunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Its funny when all these guys are saying ‘I’ll play for Fifteen dollars…or I’ll play in the NBA for free….”…. Of course you would – How many fans would you drawer to watch you play??? Exactly.

  • Will Lee

    Ray Allen + Shane Battier, always known to be classy guys.

  • Heals

    @Lakeshow, you unsuprisingly missed the point in order to take shots at a C. On the whole, RayRay is coming from the standpoint that those within the League (past and present) have put in alot of work to get where they are at and it is awful that a solution can’t be reached in a more amicable fashion. Personally, he has invested alot in his life to achieve what he has (financially, socially, statistically, etc.) so it is disappointing that the end of his career may be mared by a lockout at a time when the NBA appears to be thriving for so many (I know not all, duh, the whole lockout thing). So save your overpaid rant for the multi-year deal Artest got or the last years of Kobe’s deal (25 mil plus I think) or not being to sign DH12 cause your squad is capped out because of cats like LWalton…

  • Hurricane

    @ LakeShow, Heals is right. You completely missed the ENTIRE point of what Ray said and then tried to make someone else seem wrong. YOU LOOK DUMB NOW SO TRY NOT TO CONTINUE DOING THAT. Take care and I hope you do not misread this.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Thank you Ray, I agree with you.

  • flipnoyce

    Cosign Heals @comment 10:01 Seriously theres a lot of haters when it comes to C’s players. People such as Fakers fan. Kobe makes $25 mil for someone that just shoots and whine,Bynum makes $15 mil who spend half the season next to the waterboy and hurt players half his size, Gasol makes $18.5 to shoot 10 footers and whine, Odom makes $9 mil coming of the bench.Walton makes $5.5 mil to wear suits and ties. It all equals to swept!!! What these GM’s needs to learn is supply and demand. It’s the basis for all businesses. What Ray was trying to say is that Basketball now is in demand like what it was when MJ, Magic, Bird, Dr.J were still playing. Money shouldn’t be an issue due to the fact that people will pay to watch the games regardless.

  • Arch

    S/o CMull…& his accent…BROOKLYNN!

  • dahon

    respect

  • hushabomb

    Its funny that people think that these guys are overpaid. Jesus has performed with the Celtics and if this was DeShawn’s stats, he’d be a max player. Though the owners are the ones who pay players after the fact. When Jesus gets the Celts to the finals, is on the All-Star team of course the owners are gonna shell out. Owners will not shell out money unless the players perform. Jesus has performed with the Celtics.

    And in some cases players are overpaid (Rashard Lewis and Agent Zero are ones) yet I would like to point out, it should be on individual cases. As Jesus has helped you get to the playoffs and has made 2 finals. His stats especially now are still on par and aren’t declining.

    If the players union cares about its players, then it needs to help the bottom feeders. Guys playing on the benches and the veterans not making a hell of a lot (by NBA standards). Maybe raise the vets minimum from 1 million to 2-3 million.

  • neaorin

    @seriousblack: show me one business owner/manager in any field who says he knows exactly how each member of his staff will perform in five years, and I’ll show you the biggest liar this side of the pond. Yeah, it’s easy to say “nobody’s putting a gun to there owners’ heads when they’re doling out these long term contracts”, but just try to have a GM approach someone like Rashard Lewis and offer him a five year deal with team options after each year. Every NBA agent and their mother would laugh their a$$ off and hang up the phone. Then the team tanks, the fans get restless and stop going to games, and the GM is out of a job. CEOs and their golden parachutes are universally hated, so where’s the outrage for guaranteed contracts which are not tied to on-the-job performance for NBA players? Get rid of those and then maybe I’ll feel some sympathy for those players; and if I don’t get fired from my own job in the meantime, maybe I’ll even afford to go to a game or two.

  • vtrobot

    NBA tickets are probably about 3 times the price of what they’re actually worth. Paying $60 to watch a tiny game from a mediocre seat? F that. I’ll stay at home and watch it close up, in HD with beers that are 10x cheaper. Enjoy.

  • seriousblack

    Neaorin: Let me get this straight. Your argument is that because GMs are incapable of out-negotiating agents, they and the owners aren’t responsible for giving large, undeserved deals out? The only way to prevent GMs from overpaying mediocre guys is to take the option of big money off the table for all players?Contracts, regardless of whether the GM wants them or not, must get final approval from the owners. Your whole argument is nullified on that point alone. As I said, they are the only problem. Also, if you can’t afford to go to a game now you won’t be able to afford a game if the players get a salary reduction. Those billionaires aren’t passing off their savings to the fans.

  • seriousblack

    One last thing: The system that was just in place was designed to reward performance. It’s the dumbass management that decided to give contract out based on potential.

  • Faye

    @LakeShow Ray isn’t “overpaid”. Being Overpaid is when you’re producing half as much as the money you’re making. Ray on the other hand is having one of the best seasons of his career and is a KEY player on a championship contending team. Not to mention that plays more minutes than half the league, he’s an incredible respected hardworker. Why should he have to turn down a salary like that, he’s not an idiot but clearly you are.

  • neaorin

    No, my argument is that because long term GUARANTEED contracts are allowed by the (now defunct) CBA, the players and their agents have come to expect them, and GMs and owners are faced with the choice of either trying to run a tight ship and having a poor/mediocre team (fans get pissed, revenue drops) and tying their resources long term in players who may or may not perform, but will not sign otherwise. Both losing propositions in the long term as shown by this lockout. And no system which allows guaranteed money for six years is set up to reward performance. Base salary + bonuses (plus a faster way out for the employer in case the player doesn’t perform) rewards performance.

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