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Dont one of these ni**as got sickle cell or something?
f*ck off Kevin, just f*ck off!!!
You mad? Just saying. Mobb Deep been garbage since Murda Muzik
And this song is from Murda Muzik, so what’s your point?
Kevin, yo so then how the hell do clicking on your name link to “tha hip hop corner”?
If you don’t even appreciate true hip-hop?
I mean, you said all the mid-90s East Coast cats were wack except for Nas and AZ?
So Biggie was wack too?
True hip-hop? Just cause I dont like mid-90′s East Coast rap I dont appreciate hip-hop? Really? Always thought all of that stuff was overrated and boring. All of my favorite hip-hop comes from the South, West and Midwest. I’ll listen to Cube, DJ Quik, Dayton Family, Geto Boys, C-Bo and Outkast before anything from NYC.
Bet Kevin is a Franchise Boys fan.
So there it is, you just got a bias against the east coast.
I’m from the Midwest, but I don’t let where I’m from or where rappers happen to be from dictate whether or not I’ma like a dude’s music. That’s just petty as hell.
I like Cube, Dayton Family (their old, pre-ICP stuff), Geto Boys and Outkast too among others.
But I can get down with NYC cats.
And yeah, in all honestly I do believe if you don’t like mid-90’s East Coast rap that you don’t appreciate hip-hop because that means you don’t appreciate Ready to Die, Reasonable Doubt, 36 Chambers, Enter Da Stage, War Report, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Capital Punishment, Bacdafucup, and I could go on and on and on and…
I have no bias, I just dont like it. A bias would be mad just hating for no reason about it with no knowledge. Nah I give everything I fair listen, and I just aint feeling it. I think that’s BS to say if you dont listen to East Coast you dont appreciate hip-hop. Im from the South and im a huge hip-hop fan. Just cause i’ll jam Street Military and 8Ball & MJG over Wu-Tang and Onyx, dont make not a hip-hop fan c’mon son
i can see where kevin is coming from.
i mean, i dont really like UGK, i especially hate pimp c, but others consider that “real hip hop”
What the hell is a Street Military???
Street Military the greatest underground rap group you’ve never heard of. 4 man group from Houston that debuted in the early 90′s (Pharoah, KB the Kidnappa, Icey Hott and Lil Flea) they signed to Wild Pitch Records around ’93. Dropped a lot of great stuff, mostly EP’s and 1 full album. Great lyrically, very raw, gangster rap, hard material, from the NWA and Geto Boys mold but more aggressive. One of my favorites, their 1993 album Dont Give A Damn is pure greatness. I’d recommend giving them a listen
This is when P was killing it with the rhymes. My man fell off something hard…
Street Military sound kinda dope, I’ma have to check them out.
I mean, you can listen to whatever the hell you feel like it, but that NYC 90’s rap, to me, that’s the essence of real hip-hop right there.
That’s just my opinion though.
I feel like too many rap cats from other places don’t even know who the hell Kool Herc is.
Or what the significance of 1520 Sedgwick Avenue in the Bronx is.
Or what the four elements of hip-hop are.
To me that’s hip-hop, and them NYC cats grew up with that and respected that.
That’s why I show them love.
Again, just my opinion though.
RIGO, YOU FAIL!! IVE MENTIONED STREET MILITARY BEFORE. . “CRANK THIS BIICH UP, DONT GIVE A DAMN” “THEY SAID ID BE DEAD IN A YEAR, BUT THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO AND IM STILL HERE”. DFC IS THE SHTT TOO.
ICEY HOTT WASNT MADE FOR THE MINIMUM WAGE, SO I GRABBED MY GAUGE AND GOT MY AZZ PAID.
LOL, I’ma check ‘em out, for real.
Personally, I like remix version better. But this is still nice. And the “White Lines” sample is dope.
ENIG, CHECK PHAROAH-SIX FOOT GIANT. WILL DESTROY YOUR MISCONCEPTIONS OF HOUSTON RAPPERS. MY DUDE K-RINO IS CLOSE WITH ALL OF THEM. ALSO CHECK Z-RO.
@HAMMER – Prodigy was just razor sharp lyrically on this joint, so I prefer this over the remix.
Plus Lil’ Kim’s verse was wack on the remix.
Kev, nice cheap shot followed by the quick backtrack “Just saying. Mobb Deep been garbage since Murda Muzik.” Could’ve made that comment any number of other ways, but you was looking for a little E-skirmish. Props man, you’re real hard behind your keyboard. You have no bias against or taste for the rap that many of us loved growing up, but choose to comment about those songs regardless. Mobb’s been garbage since, but it ain’t like the cats you mentioned have dropped anything worth mentioning lately. Did anybody bring up how Deep is still killing it? I just love the mentality of people that feel the need to tell other people what they don’t like in situations like this. Totally back-a$$wards…
What cheap shot? I said it and stand by it, Mobb Deep been wack since Murda Muzik. They havent put out anything good since. Nowadays Prodigy is more known for getting punched by Saigon and Keith Murray and getting put on the Summer Jam screen….tell me where im wrong….and yeah y’all need to check out Street Military
@ Enigmatic. Im not even gonna debate ya on that one man. Just personal preference of mine. But, it is true that Mobb Deep hasn’t been sh!t since “Murda Muzik”. My personal fav album of theirs is “Hell on Earth”. Top to bottom, album is sick. Their dark beats is what captivated me from the jump with these cats. As is the case of many of the hip-hop artists I grew up on, its sad how they have practically vanished and are irrelevant in 2days music scene. Mainstream America just doesn’t know what great music is no more.
Even though Mobb fell off after Murda Muzik, they still had some INCREDIBLE production from Havoc and Alchemist. Too bad Prodigy got REAL lazy with the lyrics and flow. Havoc’s always been decent on the mic. Never really got better or worse.
I know this has nuthin to do with hip-hop, but I recently heard a song called “Pumped up kicks” by Foster The People. Song is creepy.
@Kevin, you just seem wrong for saying $hit about stuff you don’t listen too, oh and your out of date too.. P is still in the game dropping some nice verses, go check out “The Ellsworth Bumpy Johnson Ep”. The beef with Keith and Sai was settled before he went to jail and that was 3 years ago..
“Dont one of these ni**as got sickle cell or something?” It’s the whole cadence (maybe it just doesn’t read well). If we were in a room with P and Havoc and I said “hey that’s Mobb Deep,” and you replied “Dont one of those ni**as got sickle cell or something?” I think you’d get smacked…
@JMac Like I said in my earlier comment I give everything I fair listen, i’ve heard plenty of Mobb Deep tracks. I just dont hate or talk down on stuff without listening to it. That would be idiotic. I listen to a lot of stuff, if I like it cool if not then i’ll let it be known. And i’ll check out that ““The Ellsworth Bumpy Johnson Ep” for sure
@Heals SMH at me getting smacked by Mobb Deep, didnt Tru Life make them strip in the street and walk home? Just saying
So does everything on here even turn into a Tupac or Kobe debate eventually?
Tru Life and his crew punked the hell outta them cats.
Yeah I remember watching that on Beef or whatever and laughing my butt off.
I like Kevin. I don’t agree with everything he said, but I like how he handled himself.
It’s called a hypothetical situation Kevin and it was used to explain why I thought your first comment was weak. Throw in your comments about 90′s EC rap on the Cormega thread yesterday and I think my first comment is valid. To me your like a vegetarian who feels the need to walk into a deli and announce how most meat tastes bad. The deli owner and other customers don’t give a shht if you don’t cause we do. If you then came back the next day to do the same spot, but started of with “backhanded” comment before repeating the previous days rant you’d evoke a response like trees’. That’s all…
That deli analogy made me laugh out loud.
Nah, Kevin’s cool.
He earned my respect the way he handled himself as well.
Not the usual E-thugging or “I’m better than you” route.
Cause we disagree in our taste in music, that don’t mean nothing.
Let’s get some Fat Joe on Layup Lines
I used to roll with some of the Gheto Inmate cats back in the day (LES stand up!). I remember when my man told me they ran up on Mobb Deep and not believing a word he said. Then his peoples showed up wearing that unmistakable Mobb Deep jewelry. Speechless…
Out of all the Mobb joints, this is maybe my least favorite. Just so happens this is their most commercially successful track. I miss that gritty 90′s Havoc snare beats with P rhyming something incredible. From 95-99 P was one of the top 5 MC’s in the game, period.
What I don’t get is why Kevin feels the need to hop on these 90′s NYC artist appreciation threads bashing them. If you don’t like them, then keep it moving. Or state your opinion once and then move on. You sound either immature or troll-like stating hating opinions on each of these threads.
yeah, lets not get some fat joe on here.
big pun would be cool though.
@ O – I have a feeling you got a lot of dope stories from back when you were down with XXL.
@ airs – Don’t sleep on Fat Joe.
Represent and Jealous Ones Envy are classics.
Don Cartagena and Loyalty are dope too.
And dude went back to his roots on The Darkside.
Now, as far as a human being and a man, I don’t have too much respect for Fat Joe after what he allegedly did with Pun’s money.
But as a rapper, he’s had good albums.
@ Enigmatic, You damn right I do. LOL. But that Gheto Inmates robbing the Mobb happened when I was a senior in high school. I just happened to build with them before their claim to infamy (pun intended). They came through flashing the jewelry like, “You thought we was lying, O!?! Toma!” Great times (obviously not for the Mobb).
Havoc should really stick to producing FULL TIME! The beat he sampled is from the old school classic “White Lines (Don’t Do It)” by Grandmaster Flash & The Furious 5. And also a snippit of Motown legend Smokey Robinson’s “A Quiet Storm”. The one and only song Mobb Deep is critially aclaimed for! ATL’s 112 jacked the best for a smash hit too…. @ Kevin, Quik is and has always been all time favorite Hip-Hop ARTIST, not rapper, ARTIST! One of the most slept on producers and arrangers in the industry. Shout out to Port Arthur and Oak Cliff!
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