Thursday, September 8th, 2011 at 11:56 am  |  28 responses

Layup Lines: The Ghetto

So just peep the game and don’t call it crap
Cause to me, life is one hard rap

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  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    About time. Too Short aka the greatest westcoast rapper of all-time.

  • http://SLAMonline.com GotHandles?

    False. half the ish this dude talks about (with the exception of this song) is hoes and dumb sh!t. not a big fan at all.

  • Kilo

    This is the best Too Short song of all time. And Pac is the greatest west coast rapper ever.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    ^ Pac didn’t move to the west coast until he was 17. He grew up in New York and Baltimore. When he was underground, he named himself MC New York…. But I guess you could say he is more west coast, since his fame elevated from there. However, many people on here, will always regard Pac as east coast. So in that case, I think Ice-Cube is the greatest West Coast rapper.

  • O

    GP23 has a point. The only reason Pac really started repping the West is cause he felt betrayed by his NY friends and wanted to discredit them and f*ck up they cash flow. Too Short was a cool rapper, but seriously, where’s his classic album at? Ice Cube, Dr. Dre and Snoop had their classics. Even Game had a street banger with Documentary. So sorry, JTaylor, Short dog ain’t the greatest west coast rapper of all-time.

  • sean b

    Agreed. Short dog is def a west coast. OG but im partial to Ice Cube as west coasts best

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Ice Cube takes a big stinking dump on Too Short. Sorry.

  • Kilo

    Wait a minute here. Pac first hit the scene with Digital Underground and they were out of Oakland. And Pac is a very big influnce West Coast MC’s and that was clear even before the beef with any East Coast rappers. He rap career and legacy is clearly linked to the West Coast.

  • Kilo

    I’m think that we try and get some kind of extension of this Layup Lines thing into the mag.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Keep believing that BS.

  • http://thetryoblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Oakland is the best West Coast rap city. Sorry, LA.

  • http://bedotwater.bandcamp.com BE.water

    f#*k no. Oakland doesnt compare to LA-Area rappers/producers in any way besides party music.


    I was hoping for “I need a freak” or “Gettin it”. But this is still nice. And co-sign Allenp. Ice Cube is the greatest West Coast rapper. “Ya-Yayyyyy”.

  • davidR

    dj quik is the most underrated west coast rapper, and the most complete rap artist

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ BE.water: Are you serious? Name your favorite LA rappers/groups and I’ll name you four from Oakland who are better.


    Teddy. Now, u know I agree with pretty much everything u comment on. I respect ur knowledge. But im afraid im gonna have 2 disagree with u on this 1 (as well as who is better: Biggie or KRS-One. U know my answer. Haha!) Anyway, as I was saying, Im pretty sure the list of great Oaktown rappers will pale in comparison 2 L.A. rappers, n my opinion.

    Oakland: Rappin-4-Tay, Too $hort, The Hieroglyphics, Digital Underground, Luniz and Mac Dre. I could say MC Hammer, but, nah. I think im missing someone tho.

    L.A.: Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg, Eazy-E, Rass Kass, MC Eiht, MC Ren, Crooked I, Coolio, Dr. Dre, DJ Quik, Ice-T, WC and Mack 10.

    The list is pretty lopsided. And L.A’s list is mighty incredible. Matter of fact, I’ll take Dr.Dre and WC off the list and still L.A. comes out on top, n my opinion.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    That’s cool, man. I agree with you a lot too–and the respect is mutual. BUT we’ll have to clarify a few things… I think my comment sounded really really pro-Too $hort, lol. I didn’t mean to make it seem like Too $hort > Ice Cube, because we all know that’s not true.
    LA does have a tonne of good rappers, so if we’re talking about # of rappers, then LA is better. But if we put Oakland’s best against LA’s best, and I mean BEST of the best, then I’ll still put my money on Oaktown.
    Here are the four best from Oakland, imo: The Coup, Pharcyde, Hieroglyphics, and Digital Underground. Hieroglyphics is really huge too, so we can break them down into Souls of Mischief, Del tha Funkee Homosapien, etc.
    Now, the Coup are one of my favorite rap groups ever, so I’m a little biased, but their first album is better than anything I’ve ever heard from the West Coast (or East Coast, for that matter). Then we have Souls of Mischief who would dance circles lyrically around a lot of those guys.
    I admit I’m not as up on West Coast rap as I am the East… But from what I’ve heard, Oaktown is bananas. But you’re right, LA does have a huge list, and you named some guys I hadn’t thought of. Hmm.

  • efcn

    how bout Xzibit and Kurupt? yea i know neither were born in LA, but they started mc’in out there and they’re both crazily talented dope MC’s

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywmMO8iilaE IAMORANGE4EVER

    Eazy E would have been WC Goat if not for HIV, and you can quote me.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Eazy E didn’t even right all of his lyrics. GTFOH.
    Cube all day homie. Gangsta Gangsta >>>>>> Any of your favorite early 90s songs.

  • president bama

    who even has sex with women these days anyways… wtf

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Yeah, I have to agree Cube is the west coast GOAT.
    I mean, from NWA to his classic albums to all the rappers he put on from Da Lench Mob to Mack 10 and others.
    Plus all the classic rap battles he was in over the years. And he never even had to use his AK!
    Now, how can y’all go on about great Oakland rappers and not even mention Richie Rich? Dude is an OG, even Snoop once said early on he tried to pattern his rapping style after him.


    Its all good Teddy. For what its worth tho, Im sure that many of the rappers from L.A. would be able to stand their ground against the greats from Oakland. In particular Ice Cube, Rass Kass, Crooked I, MC Eiht and Snoop (young Snoop). Nonetheless, both cities have produced great rappers no doubt.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Correction: Eazy E wrote *none of his own lyrics. But he had a great voice. The DOC gets shafted a lot from the best West Coast rapper conversation, but he’s the writer behind most of NWA’s songs featuring Eazy E or Dr. Dre. And then later just Dre, when he made his solo albums. Plus, The DOC’s first album was pure fire.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Yeah I agree @ Hammer. They’re both dope. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one, lol–it’s a matter of preference/opinion.


    AGREED TEDDY! Like GURU of Gang Starr said without the voice you need to chill. Eazy-E had the voice…But at the end of the day, I love all the West Coast rap artist being listed in this thread. Ice Cube is definitely one of my favorites…NWA is LEGENDARY man, they had Eazy-E, Cube, Dre, Ren, DJ Yella….all those cats were gangsta groundbreakers.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFJQlFvkmQw IAMORANGE4EVER

    Click my name for Eazy Er Said Than Dunn.