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Wednesday, January 11th, 2012 at 11:00 am  |  59 responses

Layup Lines: Gangsta’s Paradise

I’m the kinda G the little homies wanna be like

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  • dma

    white people love this movie and song. it’s such a feel good movie to know that white people are trying to do something to help the poor people. and of course reinforcing stereotypes that all poor minorities are in gangs and have babies in high school.

  • http://slamonline.com GotHandles?

    dope song, regardless.

  • http://slamonline.com Yknot

    dma ftw!!!

  • jsmoke212

    @dma A lot of poor minorities are in gangs, and do have babies during high school. But many don’t. Just like how there are both rich and poor urban/suburban white kids. Stereotyping white people is the same as them stereotyping you. Check yaself homes

  • Rugulose

    Slam, how about something a little less mainstream next time like Conscious Style by Poor Righteous Teachers? TIA.

  • Kilo

    @jsmoke212 True, but I thnk it is clear that their is a hyuge diff between streotyping blacks and whites. And I never liked Coolio.

  • Alex

    ^^and the the diff is??

  • AQWORD

    This song is aight. Brings back some memories from first club nites etc. Word to Stevie Wonder on this one. Most of yall wouldnt know though. Too busy StereoTypin :-)

  • AQWORD

    … in amish paradice.

  • Rugulose

    @AQWORD, glad to know someone else realizes where this song came from too. Actually, a fairly unknown rapper named DMG sampled it before Coolio but it didn’t exactly dominate the charts:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19-uw8whMrQ

  • dma

    I guess hollywood can’t Help that they’re Blind Sided and continue to feed us stories about white-do-gooders.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Sh*t, most of my homeboys WERE in gangs.
    And most of my homegirls WERE having babies at 14, 13 (!!!) years old.
    Even worse than another race stereotyping is our own races looking the other way and choosin to ignore the reality.
    I see what you’re saying, seems like so many movies a white person goes to the inner city and either “inspires” the poor blacks and Latinos (Dangerous Minds) or just beats the sh*t out of them (The Substitute) but when there’s been movies about blacks and Latinos going to schools and inspiring blacks and Latinos (Lean on Me, Stand and Deliver) or beating the sh*t out of them (187) everything’s all good.
    It’s the same sh*t, just leads me to believe you a little on the racist side, not Hollywood.
    Although it would be nice to see a movie about a black or Latino going to a troubled white school and either inspiring them or whipping they a**es for a change. Ha.
    This song was dope as hell to me when it first dropped, I was like 11.
    Now tho the lyrics are silly but I still love the chorus from dude.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    And for the record, do I think Hollywood is racist as hell?
    F*ck yeah, but not cause of movies like Dangerous Minds.
    Rather cause of the thousands of movies where you won’t even see a brown-skinned actor at all.

  • snasty10

    @ enigmatic, What about Denzel in Remeber the Titans? He inspired the white players to play and get along with the black players, but then again thats the only movie i can really think of where a minority inspires white people to do better

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    @snasty10 – yeah, good one. Didn’t even think of that one.
    And it was even more impressive because he inspired them right after the civil rights era.
    Although he was purely a football coach and they were already good before he showed up, he just inspired them to get along.
    It would be nice to see a movie about a minority teacher inspiring white kids in the classroom

  • jsmoke212

    @Enigmatic. good shi*t on the ignoring reality kick. @dma, u got a point on Hollywood bias towards minorities. But hating on white people who actually want to do good (in whatever community) is just dumb. Who cares what their motivation is for doing good? Sometimes, actually most times, in life, actions speak louder than words.

  • snasty10

    Being a white person i would find that movie quite awesome and pretty entertaining to, I think Samuel L Jackson would be the perfect fit for that role, or Michael Clarke Duncan, and if its going to be a comedy im gotta go with Mike Epps or Paul Mooney

  • http://www.twitter.com_dfrance dfrance21

    Damn Enig, where are you from!?

  • http://nba.com GP23

    there is a movie with a minority teacher inspiring white kids. It’s called “To sir with love” starring Sidney Pottier. It’s really good.

  • http://www.twitter.com_dfrance dfrance21

    For the record I loved this song growing up too. “why are weeeee, so bliiiind to seeee…” love that part.

    @Enig I just checked your site bro I’m assuming you’re from Illinois, respect.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    That’s.. “To Sir, with Love” starring Sidney Poitier. Released in 1967.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com/ O

    Damnit!!!

  • kobesBESTfriend

    Dangerous minds was based on a true story u idiots so How can it be based off stereotypes?

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Man, long a** post for nothing

  • http://slamonline.com AlbertBarr

    @kobesBESTfriend: good point.

  • http://slamonline.com AlbertBarr

    and Michelle Pfeifer used to be ridiculously hot and so therefore all critiques are moot. And that Coolio song is bada$$. I think I was in 6th grade when that ish came out and cosign dfrance: the melodic chorus is the best part.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Let me try again – I won’t front like I’m from some hardcore inner city.
    I grew up in a Chicago suburb people from other suburbs avoided like the plague, but it was still a suburb.
    It was about 80% minority and we had the gangs, the drugs and the teen pregnancy an all that, but on a smaller scale.
    My man O told me bout how it was where he grew up, and extreme sh*t that used to go down rarely in my hood was an everyday occurrence in his.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com/ O

    Slam ain’t letting NONE of my posts go up on this subject…

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com/ O

    The homie, Enig knows the deal. I wish we had ONE teacher in my high school that gave a damn about us like any of the teachers in Dangerous Minds, Stand and Deliver or Lean on Me. And have we forgotten High School High as movie where a teacher motivates inner city kids to reach for the stars? I loved that movie…

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com/ O

    Enig, a troubled white high school?! LOLOL. Sorry kid. The closest movies I can think of when it comes to that are “Havoc” where we see some pretty good nudity from a rebellious Anne Hathaway who tries to get down with a Chicano gang in LA and “School Days” where Brandon Frasier is a Jewish kid who gets picked on by Matt Damon and his peoples.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Sh*t I mean troubled as in all the kids are doing drugs and failing they classes.
    That sh*t happens in white schools too, especially in the south.

  • http://www.twitter.com_dfrance dfrance21

    I don’t think the peoblem lies with the movie, its the narrow minded people that believe that these movie represent 100% of what goes on in real life. It’s like people that watch movies about NY and think Manhattan and Brooklyn are the ONLY places in NY. I moved from NY to Maryland and my co-workers all think that NYers are fast talking, rude, mean, jerks. They were surprised I was from there because I say good morning to them when I walk in the office. smh.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^lol

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Going back to the “troubled white schools” thing tho, O, if you look at a lot of rural communities, especially in the south, the dropout rates there are sky high just like in the inner cities.
    The circumstances are different, sure.
    Many kids from those communities drop out to help their families on the farm or because of their drug use or simply because no one in their family ever graduates high school and get a higher education.
    But the end result is the same.
    Generation after generation of dropouts , an endless cycle.
    That’s not a black or white problem.
    It’s an American problem.
    Rigo is for the children. Like Wu Tang.

  • Flud

    Marion Barry High. I am LV… this is a melody :)

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com/ O

    LOLOLOL @ Rigo is for the children. That’s just funny. But yeah, kids are messed up in all areas of life. From the ghetto to the burbs. Hollywood just prefers to make movies about ghetto kids who find a ray of hope living in the hood. When Hollywood wants to depict troubled white kids they make another Step Up movie or as I like to call them, “I’m poor and your rich, but let’s dance anyway…”

  • snasty10

    i think kids in general nowadays are just messed up, even in my own highschool(which is about 95% white), when i was there it was just weed and booze, but kids there now are doing heroine, meth, coc, popping all sorts of pills and even shoving tampons soaked in alcohol up there butts, the kids arent alright

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Shoving tampons full of alcohol up their…seriously?
    I mean… For real???!!!

  • snasty10

    ya man i swear, my buddy is a assistant coach on the hockey team, and he said the players were talking about it one day at practice, rich white kids with to much time on their hands, usually leads to bad stuff, like the movie Traffic

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    What Rigo? You don’t ever take an anal shot?

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    F*ck no.
    This thread has gone to a horribly, horribly wrong place…
    Let me steer this back on.
    Big shout out to the homie Schneezy for bringing layup lines back.
    We may not always agree with his selection of music but it’s great to see the site acknowledge the correlation between Beats and Buckets (see what I there, Schneezy?).

  • http://slamonline.com Schneezy

    yesssir. appreciate the shout. can’t please everyone. just bringing back some old jams and creating conversation…albeit some pretty odd conversation occasionally. coolio->tampons. huh??

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Alcohol infused tampons, not just tampons.

  • snasty10

    my bad, the hook is classic on this so is the beat

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com/ O

    I remember LV tried to do a solo record… he was never heard from again.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Good movie! Dma does have a huge point though. That “white charity” cliche is really grating and downright delusional.
    And no, black people stereotyping white people is NOT the same as white people stereotyping black people, at all. They’re both offensive usually, but the former has almost no consequence on real-life institutions or everyday activity, while the latter most certainly does.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Alex, I guess.

  • http://www.leaguelineup.com/welcome.asp?url=pawtucketymca Gametimeweezy

    Great movie, great track… reminds me of 8th grade…

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I agree 100% with Enig on Hollywood, it’s kinda ironic that I want to be an actor and unfortunately agree though…

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com/ O

    I keep trying to give a perfect example of how Hollywood is what Enig explained, but every time I try to post it, it won’t show. Guess there’s a combo of words associated with my name that won’t allow the site to show what I say…

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Remember when they came out with a Dragonball movie and cast an unknown 20-year-old white guy as Goku? Now THAT was some bullsh!t, and I don’t even like Dragonball. Their biggest star was Chow Yun Fat and they had him playing Master Roshi. wtf is that?

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Or that movie “21,” about the MIT prof and his college kids who did some “card counting” technique and won millions of dollars in casinos?
    It was based on a true story, and in real life every one of those college kids were Asian, most of them Chinese. The professor himself was also Chinese.
    In the film they cast Kevin Spacey as the professor, made most of the kids white, and for good “authenticity” included 2 Korean actors in small supporting roles. Because Koreans are totally Chinese.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Also @ Enigmatic: You’re wrong… They always have a token black guy nowadays ;) .

  • blakos

    @Enig. Is that why The Wire was highly rated? I remember reading a stat that said over 60% of Baltimore’s population is black. When i watch that show it seems the majority of the cast is black. The show felt real. (Note: I am from New Zealand, so my knowledge is limited).

  • http://www.leaguelineup.com/welcome.asp?url=pawtucketymca Gametimeweezy

    @O – yea sometimes things don’t post it’s annoying
    @Teddy – I hear what you saying that movie ’21′ has to be real
    @Enig – yea thats some ill sh*t

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ blakos: The Wire had poor ratings (ie. low number of viewers) and was consistently overlooked by major awards (ie. The Golden Globes and the Emmys). One of the reasons was definitely because the majority of the cast was black. If it’d aired on a basic cable network like CBS instead of HBO, it definitely would have been cancelled.
    But luckily the critics loved it and HBO usually values that more than the # of viewers, because they have paid subscribers anyway and don’t rely on ad revenue.
    Which is good, because Wire Lovers know it’s the best show ever made!

  • Justin G.

    Again…the movie is not about stereotypes since it’s based on the book by the real life teacher that Michelle Pfeiffer played. Do people just read the article and then skip down to the comments without reading what others have wrote? If you had then you’d see KobesBESTfriend already pointed it out. I’m sure in 10 comments someone else will say how racist Hollywood is because of Dangerous Minds

  • blakos

    Ye by highly rated i meant critics. Definitely the best show ever. Sopranos up there for me too

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    High school high was fantastic. Aren’t movies always a 100 percent accurate portrayl of reality?

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