War Veterans Protesting in Orlando For All-Star Game Tickets

I don’t think those war vets deserve the all-star tickets since they orchestrated 9-11.

it’s all about imperialism, people..America & other powerful nations have military bases all over the world in order to control these parts, which leads them to have (more) power..we, the people, are just being manipulated and some of us are even willing to die for this imperialism bullsh*t, thinking we do it for our “country”, which doesn’t actually have any sense if u really think about it..

Two videos, please watch. Click my name for the first one.

Second video… For anyone who thinks bombing Afghanistan was the right thing to do. He explains it crystal clear… If I were to type it here I’d just be plagiarizing his words, lol. (Chomsky).
And it’s not anti-American to call the US out on its war crimes. And let’s say EJ is against America (which he isn’t). What exactly is he against? Is he against you and me, the people of America? Is he against the schools, the cars, the food? Is he against the flag? I don’t think so…
He’s against what every freaking American should be against in the first place. The world is not a big sports game where you root for your “team” and say screw everyone else.
Again, this has nothing to do with marines or individual soldiers.

Hey teddy, you make good sense

Why is flying planes into buildings an act of terrorism, but flying planes OVER somebody’s country and bombing/leveling ENTIRE cities not an act of terrorism?
Terrorists operate outside any moral code? Okay, let’s say you’re right. Well, the US is just about the only developed nation that doesn’t adhere to International Law and constantly violates the Geneva Convention, and has indisputably killed more civilians than any “terrorists” out there. Are Americans terrorists? Hmm…
Google search a map of Iran and the number of American military bases directly surrounding it. Then tell me who is a threat to whom?
And can we put WWII to rest, please? It’s the same tired excuse over and over again, and it has nothing to do with wars that were fought after it. Case in point: The Cold War with Russia (our ally) and the Korean War with China (our ally), as well as the hiring of Nazi scientists (our enemy) by the military.
And was America REALLY heroic during WWII? Well, while Americans were out there defeating the Nazis and being heroic, BLACK PEOPLE weren’t even allowed to fight alongside white people! And now the only country in the world to ever use nuclear weapons in war is trying to tell other countries that they can’t have nuclear weapons?!
And by the way, not only did we drop 2 atomic bombs on Japan, we also firebombed an entire city AFTER the Japanese surrendered, just for the hell of it.
Last thing: Africa and the Middle East are rich regions of the world. The people are poor because America/Europe have been plundering their resources for over half a century. Their problems are only internal because we use divide-and-conquer to conquer their sh!t, and because our international banksters (IMF and World Bank) are glorified loan sharks. But it’s always easier to blame the victims.

Not that I’m saying the world wasn’t justified in stopping the Nazis and Japanese fascists. The world was very justified, and I’m thankful they no longer exist. But that doesn’t have anything to do with American imperialism.
Anyways, I’m out for a bit. peace all.

Its cool, just wanna point out that France tried to take over the world at one point too, so as much as you would love to sit on your high horse made of maple syrup, it might be time to wash the blood off your own hands or do you think that French is indigenous to the the North part of North America?As for the development of emerging nations, the the stakes are much higher now, there is more of a global community, and the threat of widespread destruction is more prevalent. As for Japan, well thats what happens when you declare war on somebody, did America want to fight Japan? NO. and look I cant stand here and defend Americas foreign policy or even some of its domestic policies, mistakes will be made, but its a fallacy to try to argue that terrorism wouldnt exist without America, the Huns were terrorists. and the conflict in the middle east is older than America by centuries.

Honestly, I wouldn’t have been mad if we just done leveled Afganistan. Just made it smoke and ash.
Teddy lives in China, one of the most oppressive countries in the world. He’s such a massive hypocrite.

Ah, my long post didn’t show up. Must have used some curse words. Well, that’s that I guess.

It’s so loud, inside my head. With words.. I … Never said…. Fellow commentators, I will not elaborate on my opinion, I shall present you with the evidence.If you have time , YouTube/Netflix “loose change”

shutup: perhaps you are right, but he definitely has some heritage from China. Whenever someone mentions something negative about China, he’s the first person to come in and say “WELL WHAT ABOUT AMERICA!!!!” so I feel no remorse bringing up the awful sh*t China’s been doing and is doing.
I mean, some of the comments are so ignorant. Not confirmed we were attacked by al-qaeda? The organization literally took credit for it. We have video footage of Osama planning the attacks with the hijackers. Al Jazeera literally played those video tapes with Osama talking about the attacks. To deny that al-qaeda and the taliban (who housed and trained and armed al-qaeda, and shared leadership) weren’t directly responsible is now borderline denial.
Secondly, the dude is talking like the September 11th attacks were caused by the culmination of American interference and policing it has done to the world. That’s ridiculous. If that were any type of valid excuse, we could use that for any type of intrusion (and actually have, sadly). You have to look at it in a vacuum: what caused al-qaeda and the taliban to attack us? The honest answer: Nothing. The USA put the Taliban in power. We armed it in its independence war against the USSR. One can easily say we made our own bed, we did. But the groups radicalized immediately (easier to control people through religion, I guess) and took offense to our alliance with Israel and our continued military deals with Saudi Arabia. In some ways, objectable offenses… but nothing that directly influenced them in the slightest. America was a scapegoat, a way of further controlling the masses through religion and fear. The attacks were a further simple of power, eg “Join us, the enemy can be injured.” It was an inexcusable act of war.
Now one can complain about a lot of things we did, our use of torture (DISGUSTING), our siding with questionable people to gain influence in the country (disturbing) and some of the people we put into power are as corrupt as their previous governments (truly awful) but the bottom line is: how do we respond to the attack without attacking Afghanistan? They were housing and defending Osama. They refused to hand him over because they “did not have enough evidence” despite the fact that the arab stations were playing video footage of Osama planning the attack. Were we supposed to hold meetings? Sit down and talk? It’s silly and naive to think that this would be solved any other way. And along the way, we set up schools and hospitals and freed villages and tried to unify a people. We failed, mostly because of Iraq and our non-commitment to nation building Afghanistan.
But to call our actions there an over-retaliation and a terrorist attack in itself is absurdly disingenuous. It was a war. Innocent people die. Welcome to reality.

Damn Jukai, your comment makes a lot of sense. But what if I told you that 9/11 was a demolition? Would you believe me? Nah you wouldn’t, man just Google it, and maybe you might see that it was all an intricate cog for the bigger picture. Loose change , watch it. Your beliefs/views might be swayed.

Teddy-the-Bear you’re a jackass.

l2ising: I lived in New York through September 11th, dude. This is simple logic for you: there is no way they could have set up a demolition without New Yorkers noticing. There were thousands of people going in the building every day, tens of thousands walking around the World Trade Center every day. It just can’t happen without someone noticing.
As for Loose Change, it’s interested but… very very dated… haven’t listened to all of it… Saw some summaries… a lot of what they claim they don’t have (video of plane strikes, video of parts of the plane) were released after they were cleared years later. Some of it was just reporting media and eye witness reports when there was chaos, ie “Joe Shmoe says “I didn’t see a plane!!!!” when he probably didn’t. But 50 other people did.
And a lot of stuff they said was BS. The cell phone not getting reception in 2001 in planes is crap. The “the US government said the plane totally disintegrated” is BS. The plane was shredded by concrete, it didn’t disintegrate. I don’t know, I mean, some of the stuff is eye opening but a lot of this stuff is misinformation. I hate conspiracy stuff that says “if this didn’t happen.. what did?” Well… tell us!

First, I don’t live in China. Second, we can argue about China vs. United States later–but one thing China doesn’t do is have military bases in every continent of the world. I’ll start a new comment because Jukai is funny and I need to roll up my comment sleeves. lol.

Also look up Operation Northwoods, a bill that almost passed during the Cold War that was supported/drafted by the Joint Chief of Staff. If you don’t think America specializes in false-flag operations you’re a f*cking fool. Iraq being just the recent one.
Now, Operation Northwoods never passed because John F. Kennedy refused to sign it, but it was lobbied for by everyone with any position of power in the military.
Basically it was a plan that proposed the CIA stage terrorist attacks on AMERICANS in order to frame Castro and justify an invasion of Cuban. Look it up.

I saw the plane I watched the second one crash into the second tower, muy brother video taped it as the first tower was burning, its a direct sight line from greenpoint (grand st station on the L) to lower Manhattan. plus I volunteered for cleanup after the attacks, not only was I working in a building overlooking the pit everyday afterwards(101 Barclay) for about 6 months but you could see the cleanup of the debris, dust covered all of downtown for at least 3 months following the attack, so all these conspiracy theories are bull$!t,. as for the china debate millions of dead female babies is horrific, the lack of civil liberties are deplorable, censorship is rampant and punishments are quick and severe. one could only imagine what would happen to Chomsky if he spoke the way he does if he was a resident of that country.

OMFG… The US is bringing the world stability? How lamentable, the US actually has to adhere to international laws (which it doesn’t)! How deplorable, we have freedom of the press! People can criticize our government! Do you realize how hypocritical you sound?
The difference between countries we consider repressive, like Iran and China, and countries the entire world considers repressive (us and Western Europe), is that unlike China and Iran, we have over 700 military bases in over 130 countries of the world. Does that not register??
Iran hasn’t invaded a single country in over 200 years. China hasn’t invaded a country since the late 1970s (the Sino-Vietnamese War… which disgusts me, but which the US fully supported).

Wait maybe my comments are posting I donno. I have one comment that I’ve been trying to post but whatever.

One question if the US is so secretive and underhanded how does things like “Operation Northwood ” come out? not that I’m going to google it, because there is enough anti-American US propaganda in this post. If you feel like googling something how about “yellow Journalism” and no its not an anti-Asian thing. Plus we have elections unlike other countries were people with the most power or guns become leaders. your hatred of America is turning a civil discussion into an emotional argument. I wonder if you were in Iran would you be allowed to watch the NBA or post on Slam? I think not. Its real easy to control what comes out from a government if they control the press, read Manufacturing Consent by your beloved Chomsky.

Teddy: Your heart is in China if you even think there is a debate between China and the United States. China is a walking human violation. Thinking otherwise is just a joke.
First off, your Northern Alliance crap is just that: crap. Do you even know the history of the organization? They were a fringe group made from ousted leaders that the Taliban kicked out that formed in friggin 1996 (lol at the US sponsoring them throughout the 90s). And please give me reasonable citations that the US supported this group in the five years between their formation and 9/11. Other than words when the Taliban was SYSTEMATICALLY WIPING THEM OUT VILLAGE FROM VILLAGE, I never heard of anything about the US arming them. Don’t just namedrop it.
And the Operation Northwoods thing is laughable but conspiracy nutcases just love it. It never got close to passing, Teddy. It was a proposal made only by a group (not ‘everyone’) in the CIA and sent to the president, whose administration quickly rejected it. No other group outside of a small part of the CIA even knew about it and no one in the administration even considered it. If that is what you’re using to back up your thoughts that the US made up 9/11, then you’re a lunatic, straight up. You probably wear tinfoil on your head in your parents basement.
And do you really want to namedrop China with all the places they refuse to give independence too? What army bases do we have in places where the government wants to oust us? I don’t even know how you wouldn’t be embarrassed to even have this debate. You just sound like another tool who lives outside of reality.
I mean, I really can’t believe you’re using Operation Northwood to prove that 9/11 was fake. Wow. Someone call bellevue.

@ Jukai: I’m not sure what China has to do with the United States. I don’t live in China and as a Chinese person I’m well aware of the Chinese government. We’re talking about the US–you’re diverting attention away from the discussion because it makes you feel better. And it makes you look like less of a fool for wanting all of Afghanistan to be killed, and then trying to be objective after that. Do you have a single slice of credibility after that? You sound like a f*cking Nazi.

I’m just saying, I couldn’t do it man.
I don’t agree with a lot of government policies, foreign and domestic, but if I ever felt that strongly about it to the point that you do I would rather leave the country and disassociate from any and everything American.
But thats just me.

From Chomsky:
Since the harsh treatment of women in Afghanistan has at last gained some well-deserved attention, one might expect that attitudes of Afghan women towards policy options should be a primary concern. A natural starting point for an inquiry is Afghanistan’s “oldest political and humanitarian organisation,” RAWA (Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan), which has been “foremost in the struggle” for women’s rights since its formation in 1977. RAWA’s leader was assassinated by Afghan collaborators with the Russians in 1987, but they continued their work within Afghanistan at risk of death, and in exile nearby.
RAWA has been quite outspoken. Thus, a week after the bombing began, RAWA issued a public statement entitled: “Taliban should be overthrown by the uprising of Afghan nation.” It continued as follows: “Again, due to the treason of fundamentalist hangmen, our people have been caught in the claws of the monster of a vast war and destruction. America, by forming an international coalition against Osama and his Taliban-collaborators and in retaliation for the 11th September terrorist attacks, has launched a vast aggression on our country… what we have witnessed for the past seven days leaves no doubt that this invasion will shed the blood of numerous women, men, children, young and old of our country.”
The statement called for “the eradication of the plague of Taliban and Al Qaeda” by “an overall uprising” of the Afghan people themselves, which alone “can prevent the repetition and recurrence of the catastrophe that has befallen our country….”