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• 6marjons Posted: Jun.30 at 3:42 pm
  first!
  here’s hoping it dont last long

• bobbyfade Posted: Jun.30 at 3:44 pm
  This was expected…but still sucks ass!!

• Max Posted: Jun.30 at 3:45 pm
  F this.

• Moose Posted: Jun.30 at 3:47 pm
  So when will we know if there will be a season this year?

• nbk Posted: Jun.30 at 3:48 pm
  BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

• MikeC. Posted: Jun.30 at 3:50 pm
  I second the motion put forward by nbk. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! To both owners and players.

• Jeremy Posted: Jun.30 at 3:53 pm
  

• CatKiller Posted: Jun.30 at 3:55 pm
  Good less games for Stephen Jackson to make a fool of himself

• Max Posted: Jun.30 at 4:06 pm
  ^
  *FACEPALM*
  We got ourselfs a new troll..

• Nicolas Fleming Posted: Jun.30 at 4:07 pm
  I blame it on LeBron and “The Decision.”

• dma Posted: Jun.30 at 4:08 pm
  i’m depressed. may have to watch wnba. may.

• Max Posted: Jun.30 at 4:10 pm
  Cosign Nicolas!

• Wayno Posted: Jun.30 at 4:11 pm
  at least there’s college football in the fall…

• Eboy Posted: Jun.30 at 4:14 pm
  This won’t upset me until there’s actual games that should be played being cancelled.

• Joey E. Posted: Jun.30 at 4:20 pm
  #TmacsFault

• Rodrigo Posted: Jun.30 at 4:23 pm
  The owners are happy now, they will save lot of money.

• nbk Posted: Jun.30 at 4:25 pm
  Eboy – I rely on summer league during my vacation every year. I will be without games in less then 2 weeks.

• JTaylor21 Posted: Jun.30 at 4:26 pm
  F*ck David Stern, F*ck the owners and F*ck all those who chose to blame the players for something the owners are 100% at fault at.

• A l a n Posted: Jun.30 at 4:31 pm
  Hope it doesn’t last for long…

• LakeShow Posted: Jun.30 at 4:32 pm
  Same NBK, summer league gets me through the summer. Damn this whole situation. Who gets screwed more than anyone else? The real fans. The ones who make the most money for the league.

• niQ Posted: Jun.30 at 4:37 pm
  NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

• CatKiller Posted: Jun.30 at 5:04 pm
  I think the lockout will help the NBA in the long run though. If the cap space reduction is put in place it will end the creation of ” super teams” like Miami or soon to be New York. So now the NBA can become a more stable and competitive league. Even though some of you might say you enjoy watching these high payroll teams take over and beat Down on smaller market teams like Minnasota or Cleveland. But look at it from a small market fans view. We arent interested in watching our team be embarrassed time after time by these super powered teams. So this lock out could make the NBA much better than it already is

• mersh Posted: Jun.30 at 5:06 pm
  this is stupid…after one of the best nba seasons/playoffs in a long time, this crap happens. like everyone else already said…i hope this doesn’t last long.

• TheBigL Posted: Jun.30 at 5:16 pm
  Greed.

• JTaylor21 Posted: Jun.30 at 5:17 pm
  Here’s one solution; how bout contract those teams that no one gives a hoot about. e.g., Timberwolves and Bobcats and send guys like KLove, Rubio and Kemba Walker to other teams.
  Also move the clips out of LA to either LV or SEA. Just imagine the kind of hype and money a BGriff-led Clips team can generate in a new city.

• bike Posted: Jun.30 at 5:18 pm
  This all begins to make perfect sense after about the 10th bong hit.

• nbk Posted: Jun.30 at 5:18 pm
  The point of the lockout is not to “prevent the creation of super teams” – the point of the lockout is to increase revenue. Which sooper teams do more then any other business model. The last thing the league wants, is to break up these “super-teams” in big markets. (which is the issue with why this lock-out is so bad that noone is talking about….not even the owners agree because the small market owners want to prevent this from happening again, while the big market owners don’t want to relinquish their advantage)

• nbk Posted: Jun.30 at 5:22 pm
  Taylor the Clippers are ALWAYS among the highest earners in the league. And are 1 of the 11 teams to make a profit. Infact, they make a profit every single year.

• LA Huey Posted: Jun.30 at 5:26 pm
  I think what would help the owners most is revenue sharing. Maybe a more even split of regular season ticket, concessions, etc revenue but only playoff teams get playoff revenue?

• rainman10 Posted: Jun.30 at 5:28 pm
  There were 4 playoff teams from this last season that averaged lower attendance numbers than the T-Wolves. More so for the Bobcats. Those aren’t the teams with problems. Something needs to happen with the Pistons, Raptors, and Hornets. And it’s not just the attendance. Management and ownership has screwed those teams.

• fruizm Posted: Jun.30 at 5:40 pm
  at least ill save $60 on NBA League Pass….i would rather spend it though

• bike Posted: Jun.30 at 5:41 pm
  It’s the economy stupid. Bad economy = lowered demand = lower attendence at games = loss of revenue. Reduce player’s salaries, reduce coach’s salaraies,reduce Hunter’s salary (is the guy really worth 2 mill/year, lower Stern’s salary. That’s how the real world works. Whatever. But don’t lose the fans, guys. They are the reason you are all rich beyond belief.

• JTaylor21 Posted: Jun.30 at 5:43 pm
  NBK, I understand that but imagine how much more money they could make moving out of the Laker’s shadow and going to basketball starved cities like LV or SEA. It only makes sense because there’s no professional team in LV and SEA fans are starving for a team since the Sonics left town.

• nbk Posted: Jun.30 at 5:44 pm
  actually Bike its proven that during down economic times Sports and Movies find a boost in business. Likely because families can no longer afford vacations, so a large portion of that money is spent on local entertainment.

• nbk Posted: Jun.30 at 5:48 pm
  I’d be willing to bet they don’t make anywhere near what they make in LA in Seattle that’s for sure. — They made more money then the Sonics when the Sonics were there, no reason to think anything would change. — Vegas has other issues they have to work out first, like gambling. It’s illegal to gamble on UNLV sports in Vegas, it would be hard to make a similar rule about a professional team. — Plus both Seattle and Vegas lack modern arenas. — Oh and also, why wouldn’t you just move one of the teams that don’t make money, rather then one of the 11 out of 30 that do? makes much more sense to bring New Orleans out of New Orleans, or Charlotte out of Charlotte — cities that have failed in the past, that inexplicably got teams again.

• JTaylor21 Posted: Jun.30 at 6:13 pm
  Fair enough that makes sense. I just figured out that even though CP’s the better player, BGriff’s more popular. Therefore the clips being able to generate a bigger hype and attract more fans in a new city than the Hornets can. Anyways I just feel that something needs to be done because there are too many teams. I think Jukai hit the nail on the head yesterday about how it’s similar to the 80s being that only 5-6 teams are true contenders year in and year out with the only difference being that there were 23 teams back then compared to 30 teams today. The money and interest generated in the 80s and early 90s has been good and bad for the L, good in that the NBA has become a global force and bad in that it led to over-expansion and cities with little to no basketball fanbase received teams. What’s football-crazed states like Minnesota and Louisiana doing with professional basketball teams in the first place?

• angus Posted: Jun.30 at 6:31 pm
  millionaires vs billionaires

• David J. Moore, IV Posted: Jun.30 at 6:36 pm
  I was in high school during the 1998-99 lockout. This is not good. Forget the players, owners, and all other higher NBA execs. This will affect all of the average employees that work for the various NBA stadiums. What about them? I think it’s a little selfish on both sides.

• add Posted: Jun.30 at 6:38 pm
  S**t

• Heals Posted: Jun.30 at 7:12 pm
  Keep it comin’ NBK, exactly until the owners agree on Soft vs. Hard cap, the players Assoc can’t offer any legitimate proposals. Although I’m pretty sure more than 11 teams are positive earners. There is no doubt some teams reporting losses are fudging their numbers (not including certain revenue streams) in order to promote their agenda (wanting a hard cap below 75mil). I’d be shocked if there is hoops before February…

• TP Posted: Jun.30 at 7:18 pm
  The owners have more money than anyone would ever need.
  The players have more money than anyone would ever need.
  Bunch of rich idiots who take fans for granted.
  I’d seriously like to see the FANS give them all a lockout next year: every seat empty in every arena for every game for a whole year. No viewers on TV. No jerseys bought from the stupid NBA store.
  The only real thing left in basketball is KG. And SLAM.

• nbk Posted: Jun.30 at 7:18 pm
  I understood why you thought it’d e better to move te Clips I just wanted to make sure we realized that team is very profitable. Idk what the league should do, but I agree something needs to be done

• omphalos Posted: Jun.30 at 8:58 pm
  Players need to stop being so hard-headed. Guaranteed contracts are a sticking point if I recall, players need to be held accountable for poor performance just like every other working person. Instead we have a Curry situation. If players had the fear they’d lose their contracts maybe they’d spend more time working on their games and actually treating it like a real job.

• HAMMER Posted: Jun.30 at 9:14 pm
  Oh well. I might have felt something the 1st time around. But now? Just numbness.

• LilKDub503 Posted: Jun.30 at 10:13 pm
  @omphalos: If only you could go through the day as an NBA player, then you would realize that they probably spend more time than you do working, and their activity is much more strenuous. Guys have to do corrective exercises, conditioning and strength work, lifting, and most work harder on their games than most high schoolers do in the summer hours before a game. Then they have to deal with the media and everyone trying to get tickets to the game. Notice I didn’t even say anything about the game? And guys who don’t play much have to run in sprinting intervals. Anyway, this may be the most disappointing part of the year for me. Other than the Home Run Derby, I have nothing to look forward to except game after game of baseball. Is the women’s World Cup on? I mean, this is normal, but now I have to live without speculation on the seasons of basketball and football. I feel like my heart is being ripped out of my chest Boondocks style.

• Jukai Posted: Jun.30 at 11:00 pm
  I was fairly angry at the players (for focusing on guarenteed contracts being secured when that is the one point they should relinquish to work around everything else) but after reading an ESPN article on how the owners are docking the books… yeah, I’m just not happy.

• BlackPhantom Posted: Jun.30 at 11:00 pm
  For some reason I’ve hated David Stern ever since that Dress Code nonsense. I agree the Clippers should be moved to either Seattle or Las Vegas. But DAMN IT! I can’t believe both the NBA & NFL are going through this crap. Even though I think Roger Goodell is worse than David Stern

• Rachel Posted: Jun.30 at 11:27 pm
  It’s an obvious conclusion that both owners and players are richer than they need to be, so they should be able to put greed aside. But it’s a different matter if someone else is keeping the money you feel you yourself are entitled to. Then it becomes a matter of principle, of wanting justice to be done and not wanting to let the other guy treat you unfairly.

• Billy Posted: Jun.30 at 11:30 pm
  hopin they still make nba 2k12? haha

• Jukai Posted: Jun.30 at 11:35 pm
  Also, Stern looks more and more like the Emperor at every photoshoot.
  “POWER!!!! UNNNNNNLIMITED… POWERR!!!!!!”

• Ryan Posted: Jun.30 at 11:51 pm
  http://deadspin.com/5816870/ Read this link about how losing money is all part of the plan for NBA owners.

• Clutch Performer Posted: Jul.1 at 1:01 am
  kenny smith on nbatv said something i agree with. why dont you have MJ in on those meetings? hes the only person to be on both sides of the table as player and now owner. he would have a unique perspective from both sides and see where both sides are asking for too much.

• BIGBLUE Posted: Jul.1 at 2:03 am
  THIS IS BULLSH#T. i mean i understand that the players and owners are just trying to look out for themselves, who isin’t? but the fans of the game are clearly the biggest losers in this situation.

• Zoom Posted: Jul.1 at 2:10 am
  Wow I blame Stern he just making the NBA stupid. F you Stern !

• Dacre Posted: Jul.1 at 2:10 am
  anyone looked at nba . com today?… this lockout stuff reduced the nba flagship home page to a one page ‘poke in the eye’ to fans all over the globe…. thus the titanic sinks…

• Dacre Posted: Jul.1 at 2:33 am
  Just read through that article on deadspin (ryan a few posts above has the link) and it makes a lot of sense – the creative accounting schtick – team owners are all about revenue and if they can show ‘a loss’ figure on the books in furtherance of making more money down the road it’s no surprise.
  —–
  Reading through that article highlighted one thing I didn’t realise, players wages are fully tax deductable…?!?!? AMAZING. THATS WHY THEY ARE HAPPY TO GIVE BALLOONING CONTRACTS TO PLAYERS THAT FAIL.

• BlackPhantom Posted: Jul.1 at 2:36 am
  ……..NBA.Com is joking right now, right??

• Ronald Posted: Jul.1 at 3:02 am
  They arent joking BP. They arent allowed to show any images of the players etc legally.

• Darksaber Posted: Jul.1 at 3:09 am
  Cue FIBA-President rubbing his hands together à la Mr. Burbs while wearing an evil grin, “excellent. Get me Dirk on the phone, time for him to extend his stay in Deutschland this summer.”

• Darksaber Posted: Jul.1 at 3:15 am
  Greetings from the beach at Koh Samui, SlamFam. Sad to see the lock is now officially on, hope games resume at some point this year.
  Hey, still space on the FIBA bandwagon peeps. Some big national team contests coming up, wonder how hard AUS, SRB, GER, ITA, FRA & Co are campaigning for Bogut, Dirk, Bargnani, Milicic, Parker, Deng etc. to join their teams in training camps this summer. Should be fun.

• Jahmai Posted: Jul.1 at 4:46 am
  After reading alot of reports on this matter, I have a feeling we might not see a single game of the 2011-12 season. What a f*cking nightmare, I can’t imagine the feeling I will have when it’s October and there’s absolutely nothing happening. Well, time to completely turn myself over to the NFL. Fly Eagles Flyyyyy!!

• Ronald Posted: Jul.1 at 7:27 am
  I am suprised that the NBA relinquished guranteed contracts. A lot of the problems stem from such contracts. And contracting teams like Clips/Wolves is a stupid idea. Like that would fly with the players. If anything teams like NOH and the ATL should be contracted.

• Jukai Posted: Jul.1 at 9:38 am
  Ronald: It’s because the players (unwisely) set ALL their focus on the guarenteed contract stuff instead of focusing on wages and the cap and revenue sharing.
  The NBA players union just seems a bit more unwise and unwilling than the NFL players union

• Allenp Posted: Jul.1 at 10:48 am
  Thanks for that story Ryan. Very informative.

• Jacqueline Mitchell Posted: Jul.1 at 10:55 am
  This whole situation is unbelievably sad and unecessary. It could have been settled months ago.

• Allenp Posted: Jul.1 at 10:55 am
  The link to the story on ESPN is also very good as well. Puts things in perspective.

• Allenp Posted: Jul.1 at 10:58 am
  Guaranteed contracts work just fine in baseball. They work fine for Fortne 500 companies. They work fine for your average television media outlet.
  Don’t be fooled, the reason why the League is pushing for non-guaranteed contracts is because they want built in protection for when their employees screw up horribly. Where is a player’s protection when they sign too low a contract, like what Scottie Pippen or Magic Johnson once did? I would support partially guaranteed contracts, if there is a clause that allows for larger payouts if a player OVER performs under his contract.

• celts4ever Posted: Jul.1 at 12:01 pm
  noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

• prince wale Posted: Nov.21 at 7:42 am
  this crap is messin’ da world up…nw i feel da the world comin to an end….man!!! you beta , thought-out before somthin’ crazi happens…. do you av any idea? huh? selfish owners!!!