Friday, June 19th, 2009 at 12:01 am  |  1,361 responses

The New Top 50

A lot has changed since SLAM first did this in ’97.

Ranking the Top 50 NBA players of all-time is no easy task. Making a list like this is not an exact science and, as you could guess, people are already squabbling—on our website, on other websites and in barbershops across the country—over the list we published in our latest issue. But is it really fair to have the debate before the complete list and reasoning is available for all to see? We don’t think so, and that’s why we decided to post our Top 50 in its entirety online. If you’re a real hoops head, a fan of SLAM or just a collector of basketball history, you should still go cop the issue; the images and the layout of the list in SLAM #130 are dope (not to mention the other usual goodness inside).

In any event, using the overriding standard that we only grade the players on their careers up until now (in other words: imagine if every current player retired tomorrow—which in the case of this list was about May 15—where would they stand?), eight full- and part-time members of the staff were given several days to study their history and prepare their own views. Then when gathered in our company’s conference room and hammered it out. We referenced the lists we did in ’97 (SLAM #19) and ’03 (SLAM Presents the 75 Greatest Players of All Time) a bit, but we mostly started from scratch, taking into account changes to current player’s legacies over the past six years as well as new appreciations for players of the past.

There were—and still are—a few disagreements about where guys ended up, but for the most part this list represents the consensus of the SLAM editorial staff. Will it represent yours as well? We know you won’t be shy about letting us know either way.

Michael Jordan 1. Michael Jordan
In case you were wondering, this was the least debated slot on the entire list. We’re not saying Michael Jordan can never be toppled, but for the time being, based on every consideration we could give, Mike is the one. Pure stats and their place in history? Try 30.1 ppg for his career (first all time). Or 2,514 steals (second all time). Honors? Rookie of the Year, 14 All-Star Games (MVP three times), 10 First Team All-NBA teams (nine First Team All-Defense), five MVP awards (plus six Finals MVPs). Dominant at both ends of the floor? Um, did you read the stats and honors above?! Championships? Six. Went head-to-head with other greats? Shoot, MJ ended one era (Magic-Bird-Isiah) before its time, and basically single-handedly kept a Hall of Fame lineup’s worth of stars (Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, Reggie Miller, John Stockton) from ever winning a ring.    Entertaining? The most. Impact on the game? Ditto. Really, Michael Jordan is the perfect basketball player, and the only way he wasn’t finishing No. 1 was if we’d devised a new label for whoever we deemed “the best.”—Ben Osborne

2. Wilt Chamberlain
There was no farewell tour. In fact, he may not have realized he had played his last NBA game until long afterward. But for Wilt Chamberlain, the ’72-73 season was the end. It didn’t seem that way. Sure, the 36-year-old Chamberlain averaged a career-low 13.2 points per game. But he shot over 70 percent from the floor—a record that still stands—and he led the League in rebounding for the 11th time. Wilt entered the League as the Basketball Colossus and stomped the record books flat. In his very first game, he posted 43 points and 28 rebounds. He went on to win both the Rookie of the Year and the MVP. In ’61-62, he scored 100 points in a game, averaged 50.4 points and 25.7 rebounds, and played all but eight minutes of the season. He only won two NBA titles, spurned again and again by Bill Russell’s Celtics. But his personal numbers stood up. They always did. Chamberlain’s last-ever NBA game came against the Knicks, in Game 5 of the 1973 NBA Finals. He scored 23 points and pulled down 21 boards. His team lost.—Russ Bengtson

3. Bill Russell
I can’t prove that Bill Russell is into arithmetic, but I have a hunch he must love numbers. Russell’s gotta appreciate the number 1—that’s where he falls on the all-time list of chips won (11). He likes 2 also, collecting the second-most rebounds of all time (21,620). If he wasn’t into the digit 3, he’d better like it now, because that’s where we have him on this list. Four is special to Russ, too, it being the number of times he led the L in rpg (22.5 for his career). Five is near and dear—it’s the number of times he hauled in the MVP hardware, though he easily could have had a few more. And 6, well, 6 is the number that the Celtics retired along with him, after soaking it with sweat, tears and champagne over a 13-season career, while making the Celts into the storied franchise that they are. By being the greatest winner of all time, Bill Russell made the Celtics into a franchise of winners—long after his playing days ended. If you don’t believe me, just ask Kevin Garnett.—Tzvi Twersky

4. Shaquille O’Neal
A legend in his own time. A juggernaut. A true difference-maker if ever there was one. Made everybody he played with better. Shaquille O’Neal is a star amongst stars and has been one of the focal points of the League for his entire 17-year career. His stats are monstrous. For reference sake, here are a couple: Playoff averages of 25 and 12, 15 All-Star Game appearances, tied with Chamberlain for the most times leading the League in field goal percentage (9), won two scoring titles, ’93 Rookie of the Year, 2000 MVP, three Finals MVPs and four rings. Could have had more if not for the Kobe battles, but still, four rings is nothing to laugh at. At his peak he was a physical marvel, 7-1 and 330-plus yet agile and quick. An underrated shot-blocker. Arguably the best post scorer ever. Even now, he still routinely pushes around other big men with a physicality rivaled by only a few players in the history of the game. He made you laugh. Made Kings fans cry. He calls himself the LCL (Last Center Left). I believe him.—Khalid Salaam

5. Oscar Robertson
Big O was the only player ever to average a triple double for a season: 30.8 ppg, 12.5 rpg and 11.4 apg in ’61-62, his second year in the League. Read it and weep. He averaged 25.7 for his 14-year career, once led his team in boards from the backcourt and dished out the fourth-most assists ever, playing in an era when they were less often credited than today. And he had the undying respect of his peers. “Oscar would beat you anytime he had the ball in his hands at the end of a game,” says Elvin Hayes. “He was a complete player.”—Alan Paul

6. Magic Johnson
He wasn’t a very good shooter, nor was he particularly athletic by NBA standards. And if you’re only old enough to know him as the husky guy on TV who hawks rebate anticipation loans for predatory lending firms, you’ll be excused for not understanding what made him so wonderful to watch in his prime: No player in the history of the game better combined court vision, creativity, competitiveness and sheer joy. This dude now, I don’t even know who he is. Twenty-five years ago, he was everything basketball is supposed to be.—Ryan Jones

7. Kareem Abdul-JabbarKareem Abdul-Jabbar
Sometimes the numbers tell the story. Just consider the 38,387 points Kareem Abdul-Jabbar scored in 1,560 games over 20 seasons, the most ever in the NBA, by a long shot. Some more numbers to ponder: 11.2 rpg, 3.6 apg, 2 bpg and 6 rings. But Cap also transcended the stats, as one of the most intelligent, enigmatic athletes ever and the creator of the sky hook, which Bill Russell called “one of the greatest innovations in the history of sports.“ Its brilliance, Russell added, was that “it was completely unique to Kareem’s physical abilities, proportions and coordination.” All of that made the shot virtually indefensible.—AP

8. Tim Duncan
Tim Duncan is the best power forward to ever play basketball. Over 12 seasons, he’s accumulated one Rookie of the Year award, two MVPs, three Finals MVPs, four championships, nine First Team All-NBA appearances and 11 All-Star Game invites. And all for the same franchise. His career numbers are dizzying, but Duncan has never been about the stats. With his quick wit, quiet grace, no-nonsense approach to the game and always, always perfect positioning, Tim Duncan playing basketball is poetry personified. At 33 years old, his career is probably winding down. Enjoy him—and appreciate him—while you still can.—Lang Whitaker

9. Larry Bird
Larry Bird collected every accolade the NBA offered. At 6-9, 220, and long-armed, Bird had the body for ball and he was blessed with a natural command for it, if not abundant athleticism. Physical limits didn’t stop “Larry Legend.” You don’t average 24.3 ppg and 10 rpg without athleticism, but Larry did. You don’t average 6.3 apg and 1.7 spg as a forward, but Larry did. You don’t win three rings and last 13 seasons in the L with a bad back, but somehow Larry did. More than anything else he did, he always found ways to overcome, to compete, to win and to repeat.—Matt Caputo

10.  Jerry West
Jerry West honed his skills in solitude, emerging from Cabin Creek, WV, to lead West Virginia University to the NCAA title game in 1960. West was rawboned, long armed and springy. His jump shot, especially off the dribble, was warm pie. West’s reticent aloneness both fueled and haunted him. His Lakers lost in the Finals his first six seasons, and each heartbreak added kindling to his astonishing drive to win. After more than a decade in the League, West’s ’71-72 Lakers won 33 consecutive games—still the record—and the NBA Championship. West chipped in 25.8 points and 9.7 assists on perhaps the greatest team ever. Modest yet self-assured, West was also the best clutch shooter the game has seen. He averaged a remarkable 27 ppg over 14 years, but upped that to 29 in 153 Playoff games—all before the three-point line. West was named an All-Star every year, First Team All-NBA 10 times. Here are two measures of the respect given Jerry West: He is the only Finals MVP not on the championship team. His image is the NBA’s logo.—Rus Bradburd

11.  Elgin Baylor
Do you believe in basketball evolution? You should, you know. Because the NBA wasn’t always like this. And I’m not just talking about recent developments like three-pointers and Thundersticks. The fundamentals of the game have changed. They’re still changing. They’ve always been changing. But if you know anything at all about evolution, you know it isn’t just about small steps. Because that’s not how you get from Ralph Kaplowitz set shots to LeBron James dunks in a mere 60 years. Somewhere along the line, someone has to leap. And Elgin Baylor took the biggest leap of them all. Understand this, if you understand nothing else: Without Elgin Baylor, there is no Michael Jordan, no Kobe Bryant, no LeBron James. Elgin took a ground-bound game skyward, transformed the entire sport. True, he never won an NBA championship, despite playing in eight NBA Finals. But his 61-point outburst in 1962 remains an NBA Finals record. His 19.8 rpg average in ’61 is unsurpassed by any other non-center. Everyone since has just built on the foundation he laid.—R. Bengtson

12.  Kobe Bryant
Perfectionism is the persistence of will in obtaining the optimal quality of spiritual, mental, physical and material being. Also referred to as Kobeism. When discussing KB24, there are a few things you have to take into account. One, he was constructed in a lab by commissioner David Stern and company. Sixty percent MJ, 20 percent Tiger Woods and 20 percent Jellybean Bryant (for physical attributes). Two, he’s only 30 years old and has 12 healthy seasons under his belt with three rings, 11 All-Star Game appearances and two scoring titles. Last but not least, how many players can give you 25-30 points when their defender is doing a great job stopping them? Kobe is the product of Michael Jordan as MJ was the product of Dr. J. Some may argue that there’s a different best active player, but truth is Kobe Bryant has the only set of keys to the best basketball player car and it’s going to be a few more years until he lets anyone else drive. For now he’s welcoming all students to ride alongside in the passenger seat. Put your seatbelt on and enjoy the ride.—Konate Primus

13.  Hakeem Olajuwon
Hakeem OlajuwonHakeem the Dream, first thrust onto the basketball consciousness as a star for the great University of Houston teams of the early ’80s, went on to an NBA career that featured a dozen All-Star selections, the all-time record for blocked shots, two Finals MVPs, two Defensive Player of the Year Awards, the most steals in Rockets history and the ’94 League MVP Award under his belt. A rare talent who—due in part to his youth training as a soccer player in his native Nigeria—possessed superb footwork. One of the very few dominant players on both offense and defense, he scored nearly 27,000 points in his career and grabbed nearly 14,000 rebounds. Offensively, all the pump fakes and change of directions were designed to get his opponent off balance (seriously, the Dream Shake could have a write-up all its own) and out of position. Standing 7-0 with an athletic 255-pound body, he used both finesse and muscle, and combined quick hands, upper body strength and nimbleness to shut down opponents.—KS

14.  Bob Pettit
At 6-9 and only 215 pounds, Bob Pettit was under-undersized. But after being cut from his high school team as a freshman and as a sophomore, Pettit went on to star at his hometown Louisiana State and then play 11 seasons in the NBA and total over 20,000 points and 12,000 rebounds. Pettit played his entire career for the Hawks, though at the time the team was based in Milwaukee, then St. Louis. As a rookie, BP averaged 20.4 ppg with 13.8 boards and won the Rookie of the Year award. His coach, Red Holzman, noted, “We didn’t ever hope that anybody could be that good.” His second year, Pettit averaged 25.7 and 16.2. In 1958, Pettit lead the Hawks to the NBA Finals against Bill Russell and the Celtics. The Hawks won the chip—the franchise hasn’t won another since—with Pettit going for 50 points in the decisive Game 6. As Bill Russell himself said, “Bob made ‘second effort’ a part of the sport’s vocabulary.”—LW

15.  Julius Erving
If it wasn’t for Dr. J, there is no SLAM. I have 180 words with which to justify his placement on this list, but I could have ended after those first 10 and been done with it. Because without the Doctor, I’m not writing this at all. Julius Erving didn’t invent the dunk, it just seems that way. Wilt Chamberlain, then a student at the University of Kansas, was dunking on a 12-foot basket as early as the mid ’50s. Doc wasn’t even the first guy to dunk from the free-throw line—Jim Pollard had done it as early as the late ’40s. In fact, the NCAA had banned dunking by the time Erving started at UMass in 1968. What Erving did was turn the dunk into an offensive weapon, a tool with which to demoralize and destroy. Ask Bill Walton. Ask Michael Cooper. Yes, he won four MVPs (three in the ABA). Yes, he won three championships (two in the ABA). Yes, he was the main reason behind the ABA/NBA merger. But mostly, without him, there is no us.—R. Bengtson

16.  Moses Malone
I’m old enough to have seen Moses Malone play basketball, but I mostly remembered the older, balding, bespectled, paunchy Moses who played out his career in a series of stints in peculiar locales (including Milwaukee and San Antonio). The Moses I don’t remember seeing is the man who parted the waters for players to go pro straight out of high school, the 6-10 center who averaged 24.8 points per game and 17.7 rebounds per game as a 23-year-old. Counting the two seasons he played in the ABA right after high school, Moses played 21 years of pro ball and retired with averages of 20.3 and 12.3. He won an NBA title and a Finals MVP, was a three-time regular season MVP, was an 11-time All-Star, led the NBA in rebounds per game six different times, and even led the NBA in minutes per game twice. Why, you may ask, is Moses ranked below Dr. J, when Moses’s stats and legacy are obviously superior? Well, Dr. J had a cool afro and could dunk. Other than that, I’m not sure why. Let my people go.—LW

17. John HavlicekJohn Havlicek
Tireless, gutsy, smart, scrappy and winner are all adjectives people used to describe Hondo’s game. The 6-5 guard/forward was certainly tireless, averaging more than 35 mpg nine different times. Gutsy also works, too, as Havlicek played through injuries, playing less than 75 games only once in his 16-year career. In that career, he managed to average over 20 ppg, 6 rpg and 4 apg, showing he was smart with the rock. It’s not just the stats, though; it was the way he accumulated them. Whether starting or coming off the pine, whether picking-and-popping or driving to the hoop, whether rebounding or passing, Havlicek did it all to the fullest. And that’s why he was the winner he was, pocketing eight championships. If you add it all together, one word can be used to describe him: complete.—TT

18. Karl Malone
Behind Karl Malone’s ringless fingers are two fists full of honors and records, of which we can only begin to highlight here. Malone was an All-Star every season from 1988 to 2002. He finished among the top eight in MVP voting for 14 straight seasons, and he won the award twice. He was First Team All-NBA for 11 straight years. He finished in the top 10 in total rebounds and top 5 in scoring for 13 consecutive seasons. Malone never missed more than two games in a season with the Jazz and played in the Playoffs every year of his career. He’s second all-time in career points and first in field goals made. Karl Malone was the prototype of being consistently great. And it doesn’t take a title to prove it.—Ryne Nelson

19. Isiah Thomas
Some of you under the age of 30 might look at Isiah Thomas’s ranking and shrug your shoulders, only knowing him from his scandal-ridden tenure with the Knicks. But settle down and learn something: Not only does he belong here, but there’s no debate about it. Clutch, quick and tough-minded, Zeke was a hard match-up for backcourt and frontcourt players alike. He routinely broke down his initial defenders and drove to the rack with determination. Additionally, he was an asshole (I mean that in a good way) to match, with a mean streak that only intensified his competitiveness. Thomas was the brains behind those fabled Detroit Pistons Bad Boys teams in the late ’80s and early ’90s. He scored over 18,000 points, dished out over 9,000 assists, was selected for a dozen All-Star games and was named the 1990 Finals MVP.—KS

20. Charles Barkley
Before the fat jokes every Thursday night and before senior citizen challenges at All-Star Weekend, there was a man who stood 6-4, who pumped fear into opponents and laid down the law in the paint. Often we give credit to those oversized with exceptional skill, and just as often we overlook the undersized players who cast just as large of a shadow. But how can anyone overlook someone who gives you 22 ppg with 12 rpg over the course of 16 years in the League? Yeah, Sir Charles didn’t get the one nice piece of jewelry he was aiming for, but he has his spot in the HOF, plus an MVP, a gold medal and countless other achievements. Plain and simple, Barkley was one of the toughest forwards to play this game. And some might even say he’s a great role model for future Hall of Famers.—KP

21. Rick Barry
Rick Barry’s prime was divided between the NBA, the ABA and various courtrooms, as the leagues fought over him. This reflected the tumult of the times but also overshadowed the fact that he was one of the game’s all-time greatest offensive players, scoring over 25,000 points in 14 seasons. “Rick had a tremendous outside shot,” recalls Chet Walker. “If we had had three-pointers during our era, this guy would have been truly unstoppable.” Barry led the NBA in scoring his second season with 35.6 ppg, but the League sued him when he tried to jump to the ABA. He was forced to sit out a year before his 34 ppg led the rival league in ’69. He returned to the NBA after four years. “Rick was as good at working the pick and roll as any forward ever,” recalls Slick Watts, who teamed with Barry on the Rockets, “He could shoot or pass great coming off a screen from a big guy, and he could also put the ball down once or twice, then score on anyone.”—AP

22. John Stockton
First all-time in assists (5,000 more than second place). First all-time in steals (700 more than second place). John Stockton didn’t just exceed what anyone thought a 6-1, 175-pound guard out of Gonzaga could do, he absolutely demolished expectations. Working brilliantly alongside Karl Malone and Jerry Sloan for the only team he’d ever suit up for (a record 19 seasons with one franchise), Stock ran the game at both ends of the floor with supernatural hands and unprecedented guile. The biggest negative to Stock’s career is his lack of a ring, but you can blame MJ for that. It should go without saying, given the outrageous numbers Stock put up, but dude hardly ever missed a game; in 17 of his seasons he didn’t miss a single outing, including closing his career with five straight seasons starting every possible game. And the 10-time All-Star wasn’t out there for charity—in ’02-03, his last campaign, Stock quietly led the NBA in assists per 48 minutes. He’s headed into the Hall this fall…though most people won’t notice cause you know who’s going in, too.—BO

Elvin Hayes23. Elvin Hayes
The Big E infuriated coaches and drove teammates crazy, but that marvelous turnaround jumper of his helped him become the sixth-leading scorer in NBA history. The top overall pick of the San Diego Rockets in ’68 after playing in one of the most famous college games in history (a 71-69 win for his Houtson Cougars over UCLA), Hayes led the NBA in scoring as a rookie and soon became one of the most productive and durable big men in history. In 1972, the Rockets traded Hayes to the Bullets, where he joined Wes Unseld on one of basketball’s most formidable front lines. Hayes helped the Bullets to the ’75 Finals, but a surprising four-game loss to Golden State earned the Big E criticism from those who considered him a selfish player. Three years later, he lifted Washington to the title, earning vindication against his detractors. Hayes finished his 16-year career in Houston and is remembered as a pioneering power forward and force on offense and the backboards.—Michael Bradley

24. Bob Cousy
When you think of razzle-dazzle and creative handles, you probably think of streetball. But long before the AND 1 Mixtape Tour, Boston Celtics point guard Bob Cousy was known as the “Houdini of the Hardwood.” Cousy helped contribute six titles to the greatest dynasty in any sport of all time. And even though his numbers won’t blow you away (18.4 ppg, 7.5 apg, 5.2 rpg), his crossover would crack any present day below-average NBA defender’s ankles. The New York native pioneered leading the break with behind-the-back dribbles and no-look passes that seemed headed nowhere until you saw a teammate swoop in and finish off the dime. He saw what other people didn’t see, and he knew what to do when he saw the opening. Cousy’s innovation shaped ballhandling on all levels of the game forever.—MC

25. David Robinson
Basketball, like life, is funny. In both cases, one or two moments can come to define your existence. Take David Robinson, a guy who averaged 24 ppg, 12 rpg and 4 bpg as a rookie, and went for 30 and 11 a few years later. Ten-time All-Star. Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, League MVP. Dream Teamer. And yet when I think of David Robinson, what do I think of? The guy Dream embarrassed in the Playoffs. The guy whose greatest contribution to his franchise was missing most of the ’96-97 season. But this is my problem, not his. For the first half of his career, David Robinson was all-world. For the second half, he was “only” a terrific, selfless role player with two rings to show for it. Nothing funny about that.—RJ

26. Kevin McHale
Kevin McHale looked like he was built in some mad scientist’s lab, perfectly constructed for low-post dominance. The man was all arms and legs, 6-10, 225, with limbs that seemed to stretch halfway across the court. He used those long arms to become one of the great low-post defenders in the game as well as an offensive force; he could release a shot over anyone, no matter how tall, athletic or determined. Consistently praised for being tough to guard by Charles Barkley, McHale teamed with Robert Parish and Larry Bird to form one of the game’s all-time great front lines for a dozen years, leading the Celtics to three titles. He often came off the bench as a super sixth man, abusing tired starters or overmatched subs, but he was rarely not on the floor at the end of tight games, and he won many with clutch shots, blocks or free throws.—AP

27. Scottie Pippen
Bring up Scottie Pippen and people like to talk about his negatives—once refusing to come in for the conclusion of a Playoff game, not winning a ring without Jordan, etc. But by doing that they miss the obvious. Dude was a serious player and basically perfected the point-forward position, especially during the second three-peat when he took over much of the ballhandling responsibilities for the Bulls. Additionally he was a lockdown wing defender, a key element in the overlooked fact that those championship Chicago teams of the ’90s were the best defensive teams that many of us have ever seen. At 6-7 and 228, Pip had the requisite strength and the speed to guard several positions on the floor. He did all this while being the team’s second option, scoring nearly 19,000 points over his career, making his complementary contributions to Jordan not just happenstance but crucial to the Bulls success.—KS

28. Jason Kidd
At 6-4 and 210 pounds, Jason Kidd was faster, stronger and bigger than most of the guys he went up against. But instead of running his opponents over, Kidd used a Mensa-level hoops IQ to outfox most of them, using pin-point passing to rack up over 10,000 assists in his first 15 seasons. His 103 triple-doubles are third all-time in NBA history, and they attest to Kidd’s singular ability to play a complete game in the modern era. While his defense these days is often mostly cursory, he was named First Team All-Defense four different times and is the NBA’s active steals leader. Kidd reinvigorated the Nets in the early Y2K, carrying them to the Finals twice, and then reinvigorated his own game with a trade to Dallas in 2008.—LW

29. George Mikan
There was no father to his style. That George Mikan was the NBA’s first great big man is almost beside the point; he was professional basketball’s first big man, period. A gangly 6-10, Mikan stepped into a game played by average-sized men taking set shots and changed it forever. He was both a freak and a superstar at a time when the game had neither and needed both. Understand this: They changed rules for this man. He dominated the lane so thoroughly that they widened it, and he swatted so many shots from above the rim that they disallowed the practice. Comparing him to the greats who came after, players with more size and talent, is a waste of time, and really beside the point. George Mikan is peerless because he literally had no peer.—RJ

30. Kevin Garnett
Career stat lines like 20 ppg, 11 rpg, a four-time rebounds per game leader, seven-time All-Defense First Team and one MVP pretty much sums up Mr. Garnett. Allow me to elaborate: Kevin is the most giving selfish player ever. Every dunk or fadeaway is done with the intent to make you feel bad about yourself. Every rebound he snatches is another way of telling you he’s better than you. His intense eyes and war cries are his way of letting out the pain for you. KG came into the League in 1995 as a hyped-up skinny high school kid from Illinois via South Carolina who played with passion and intensity. In 2009, 14 years later, you can call KG a man who lived up to the hype and plays with intensity and passion every game.—KP

31. Willis ReedWillis Reed
When Willis Reed emerged from the tunnel in Madison Square Garden to inspire his teammates to beat the Lakers in Game 7 of the 1970 NBA Finals, he created a moment that would last forever in League folklore. That one moment shouldn’t overshadow the many other accomplishments in his successful, if brief, NBA career. In his 10 years with the Knicks, he was Rookie of the Year, a seven-time All-Star, two-time NBA Champ, two-time Finals MVP and also the MVP of the 1970 All-Star Game. Considered the greatest Knick ever by many New York fans, Reed was the captain of the franchise’s only two NBA championship teams. The injuries that created that defining moment also ended his career, and Reed retired after the ’73-74 season. He posted averages of 18.7 points and 12.9 rebounds over 650 games.—MC

32. Wes Unseld
Wes Unseld was an absolutely ferocious rebounder. Using his 6-7, 245-pound body to hold off any and all comers, he averaged 14 rpg for his career, along with 10.8 ppg and 3.9 apg. He was Finals MVP when the Bullets won the ’78 title. “Wes had some big scoring games, but his focus was on being a tough guy and leader and to get extra shots for his team,” recalls Dave Cowens, a regular opponent and fellow HOF member. “He could also throw the outlet pass better than anyone, whipping a two-handed pass all the way downcourt while still in the air.”—AP

33. Nate Thurmond
At a time when great centers roamed the NBA, Thurmond was a major interior force, even if he didn’t receive great attention. A product of Bowling Green University, Thurmond made an immediate impact with the San Francisco Warriors, who drafted him in 1963. During his 11 seasons there, he led the club to a pair of Finals appearances and played in six All-Star games. There was nothing flashy about Thurmond, who excelled at the defensive end and was a ferocious rebounder. Thurmond concluded his 14-year career with averages of 15.0 ppg and 15.0 rpg, not to mention the considerable respect of those who competed against him.—MB

34. Dolph Schayes
A 6-8, 220-pound forward, Schayes was named to a dozen consecutive All-Star games from 1951-62, leading the Syracuse Nationals to three Finals and the ’55 title. He had deep range on his set shot and unusual agility for a big man of his era. He retired in ’64 as the NBA’s all-time leading scorer (19,247 points). “Dolph was completely tenacious and he worked as hard as anyone ever could have,” recalls Bill Russell. Schayes’ opponents were forced to work equally hard or risk being embarrassed because he never quit moving, exhausting defenders with a style he once summed up simply: “Basketball is a game of movement, so move!”—AP

35. Walt Frazier
Those who follow the Knicks now know Frazier as the colorful wordsmith who covers them on the MSG Network. But back in the ’70s, Frazier was one of the best point guards in the League and skillfully weaved his way into seven All-Star appearances, four All-NBA First Team selections, seven All-Defense selections and two Knick championships. An accomplished defender who was known for his quick hands and unflappable personality, Clyde ended his decade-long Knicks career as the franchise’s career leader in assists and points. Selected to the NBA’s 50 Greatest Team, he finished with over 15,000 points and 5,000 assists.—KS

36. Patrick Ewing
Patrick Ewing was called a warrior so much it’s a wonder his No. 33 isn’t hanging in The Arena in Oakland. It does, however, hang in MSG, despite a tumultuous last few years in blue and orange and his ultimate failure to bring a title to New York. But, in his prime, the irascible (and often sweat-soaked) Ewing was perhaps the best jump-shooting center in NBA history, a shot-altering force in the middle, and the last line of a ferocious blue-collar defense. A fierce and proud competitor to the end, Ewing was the League’s first true warrior.—R. Bengtson

37. Jerry Lucas
Jerry Lucas was one of only two players selected out of high school in the NBA’s old territorial draft, picked by the Cincinnati Royals in 1959. When he finally joined the team (and Oscar Robertson) in ’64, the 6-8, 230-pound PF averaged 17.7 ppg and 17.4 rpg and was named ROY. The next season he went for 21.4 ppg and 20 rpg to become just the third “20-20” player in League history. He is also one of only four guys to get 40 rebounds in a game. Lucas finished his 11-year career in New York, and when the Knicks won the ’73 title, it gave Lucas championships in high school, college, the Olympics and the NBA. “Jerry combined skill, hard work, determination, knowledge of the game and raw intelligence as well as anyone,” says Clyde Frazier.—AP

38. Gary Payton
Some guys are handed nicknames, but the only way you get a name like The Glove is by earning it. He played with a feral, confrontational quality unusual for point guards. He intimidated 95 percent of the guards in the League with that style and dominated best point guard in the League discussions for the entire ’90s. His nine All-Star Game selections are bolstered by nine All-Defense First Team selections and highlighted by his Defensive Player of the Year Award in ’96 (the only PG to ever win that honor), the season he led the Seattle SuperSonics to the NBA Finals. After stints with the Celtics and Lakers, he reemerged with the Heat and hit the key shot in Game 3 of the ’06 Finals, capping a Hall of Fame career with a deserved Championship ring.—KS

Allen Iverson39. Allen Iverson
“We talking about practice?” One of the most memorable quotes in basketball history, and oddly enough it came from a man who led the League in scoring four times, averaged 27 ppg for his career and made 10 All-Star games all while being constantly injured and extremely undersized. Generously listed at 6-0, Allen Iverson banged with the best and played through every injury short of a broken leg. But still, “We are talking about practice, not a game.” Not the game? He was League MVP, All-Star MVP twice and ROY. “We are talking about practice.” There is no question about his dedication, heart, love, nor individual talent. But while you may question how AI will solidify his place among the greats, only he knows. Because Allen Iverson is still The Answer.—KP

40. Billy Cunningham
They didn’t call him the Kangaroo Kid for nothing. A 6-6, 220-pound small forward, Billy Cunningham used his outstanding hops to dominate from the wing. From 1968-72, he grabbed between 11.7 and 13.6 rpg, along with 24.3 ppg and 4.6 apg. That was after he served as an electrifying sixth man on the 68-13 1967 Sixers and before he went to the ABA and was MVP of the League. A blown knee prematurely ended his career in ’75, but Cunningham earned another ring as coach of the ’83 Sixers. “I’d like to take credit for the jumping but it was a God-given talent,” says Cunningham, a Brooklyn native who spent countless hours on the playground. “It was easy to develop a game because we just played so much against so many great players.”—AP

41. Clyde Drexler
Clyde Drexler wasn’t your typical superstar. A sublimely brilliant all-around guard, the high-flying Drexler simply kept his head down—on and off the court—and never stopped moving. Drafted out of Houston in ‘83, he led the Blazers to two Finals appearances, in ‘90 and ‘92, finally winning a championship with Houston in ’95. But he wasn’t just hanging on to get a ring—that year he led the Rockets in points, assists and steals. Yet, polite to the end, he chose to walk away. “I think it’s better to go before you’re asked,” Drexler once told me. “I worked too hard to develop those skills to see them atrophy.”—RB

42. LeBron James
There is no number that better describes the difficulty of doing an all-time player list than this one. Forty-two for LeBron James? I’m writing this in mid-May. Will he vault to 37 if the Cavs win the title this year? Who knows? And who cares? He’s here, in the conversation, in his sixth season and still shy of his 25th birthday. Ignore the marketing and the talc showers. The stats, not to mention the opinions of his rivals and peers, do not lie; being ranked No. 42 right now is irrelevant. King James’ destiny is single-digit.—RJ

43. Dominique Wilkins
Dominique Wilkins was called the Human Highlight Film, but it wasn’t only because of his dunking. Nique had a deadly mid-range game, an array of off-the-glass jumpers, and he developed into a reliable three-point shooter. Still, it was the dunks that made Nique greater than so many of his peers. In fact, if he’d played during the YouTube era, he’d probably be five or six slots higher on our list. Playing the majority of his career in the same conference as Larry Bird and Michael Jordan kept Nique from ever making it to the NBA Finals. But for fans of basketball played above the rim, nobody did it better than Dominique Wilkins. Ever.—LW

44. Dave Cowens
While Cowens is the last of the eight Celtics in our 50, he is also the most unique of them. Cowens accumulated a solid resume: 17.6 ppg, 13.6 rpg, two NBA Titles and an MVP award. But this doesn’t tell the whole story of the 6-9 center’s 11-year run. Always hyperactive and tenacious on the court, Cowens was just as eccentric off of it—retiring once mid-season, driving a taxi cab during another. The fact that he was able to do so much on the court while doing so much off it is a testament to his greatness.—TT

45. George GervinDNA056027091.jpg
The “Iceman” ruled over his 13 pro seasons with some of the coldest scoring skills in the history of the game. A 12-time NBA or ABA All-Star, Gervin was regularly among the top NBA scorers, including four finishes as the League’s leader. Famous for his Afro, skin-and-bones body type and for pioneering the finger roll, Gervin’s 26,595 career points, two 30-plus ppg seasons and All-Star Game MVP trophy keep his legacy frozen in time. As if that wasn’t enough, he’s also the only guy to be teammates of both Julius Erving and Michael Jordan. Although he never won a title or League MVP, Gervin was one of the most dangerous offensive threats of any era.—MC

46. Bob McAdoo
If it weren’t for McAdoo’s second act as a standout reserve on four Laker Finals teams, few would remember the sweet-shooting forward for anything other than controversy. A star at UNC, he joined the Buffalo Braves in 1972 and became an immediate sensation, winning three scoring titles. But McAdoo clashed with ownership midway through the ’75-76 season and began a five-team odyssey that eventually brought him to the Lakers. Though a former MVP, McAdoo thrived in a reserve role and played big parts on L.A.’s ’82 and ’85 title teams. He finished his career as a star in the Italian League.—MB

47. Earl Monroe
At 6-3, Earl Monroe couldn’t get over you. At 190 pounds, he couldn’t go through you. So he had to figure out how to go around you. And go around you Monroe did, with a dizzying arsenal of spins and dribbles that left opponents clutching at air. A four-time All-Star with the Knicks and Bullets, Earl the Pearl’s blacktop-bred game occasionally even left him wondering. “The thing is, I don’t know what I’m going to do with the ball,” Monroe once said. “And if I don’t know, I’m quite sure the guy guarding me doesn’t know either.”—R. Bengtson

48. Dennis Rodman
How did Dennis Rodman become the best rebounder ever? Divine intervention. Over (growing nine inches between his 19th and 20th birthdays) and over (drafted a Bad Boy) and over. At 19, Dennis Rodman was a 5-9 twerp, hanging out in malls, stealing cheap watches. By 30, he was gathering over 25 percent of the rebounds on the court. Plainly, Dennis knew before everyone else where the rebound would be. You know what was craziest about the Worm? His “court sense.” How else, in basketball’s modern age, could a 36-year-old possibly average 15 rebounds for an entire season?—RN

49. Walt Bellamy
Walt Bellamy had one of the greatest rookie seasons in NBA history, averaging 31.6 ppg and 19 rpg season for the Chicago Packers after being the top pick in the ’61 Draft. “Bells” played in 1,043 of 1,055 games during his 14-year career and retired in ’74 as the sixth-leading scorer (20,941 points, 20.1 ppg) and third all-time rebounder (14,241 rebounds, 13.1 rpg). He is in great company as one of only seven players to score 20,000 points and grab 14,000 boards, along with Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Elvin Hayes, Robert Parish, Moses Malone and Karl Malone.—AP

50. Steve Nash
At 6-2, maybe 190 pounds, Nash has scored over 13,000 points and dished over 7,500 assists in his 13 NBA seasons. But more relevantly, he won two MVP awards with a couple of eye-popping seasons in Phoenix. Were his numbers inflated from playing in Mike D’Antoni’s system? Maybe. But as Nash himself told me a few years ago, “It was from team play and it was how well our team did that made me the MVP. I owe it all to my teammates, and I realize it’s unique. It’s good for kids and good for the game that the MVP was awarded to someone who won it in a team setting.”—LW

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  • AIadvocate

    Ok, where is Wade? Wade is better than Nash. Do people forget he pretty much carried the Heat in 2006 to a title? He should be in the top 30 at least. Nash = most overrated player ever.

  • AIadvocate

    12. Kobe Bryant
    Perfectionism is the persistence of will in obtaining the optimal quality of spiritual, mental, physical and material being. Also referred to as Kobeism. When discussing KB24, there are a few things you have to take into account. One, he was constructed in a lab by commissioner David Stern and company. Sixty percent MJ, 20 percent Tiger Woods and 20 percent Jellybean Bryant (for physical attributes). Two, he’s only 30 years old and has 12 healthy seasons under his belt with three rings, 11 All-Star Game appearances and two scoring titles. Last but not least, how many players can give you 25-30 points when their defender is doing a great job stopping them? Kobe is the product of Michael Jordan as MJ was the product of Dr. J. Some may argue that there’s a different best active player, but truth is Kobe Bryant has the only set of keys to the best basketball player car and it’s going to be a few more years until he lets anyone else drive. For now he’s welcoming all students to ride alongside in the passenger seat. Put your seatbelt on and enjoy the ride.—Konate Primus

    I’m sorry, but if Kobe never played with Shaq and was in a smaller market, no one in their right mind would say he’s hands down the best player in the league. I would argue that LeBron and Wade are as good, if not better than Kobe. He needed Gasol and the refs in 2008 to get to the finals. He was great this year and deserved the title. But if I hear that Kobe carried the Lakers to a title one more time I am going to throw up. He had great players around him. It is amazing to me that he’s #12 and Iverson is #39. That is just a lack of respect and a generally incompetent view of basketball. Iverson was the best guard in the NBA for about 7 years straight(2000-2007). Kobe didn’t really excel until 2005. I doubt a lot of people know this, but Iverson was in the top 10 in scoring and assists from 2004-2007. He is by far the most dominant offensive player of his era. He probably should have won at least one more MVP when he was playing with a rookie Iguodala, a 2nd year Kyle Korver, and a one legged Webber in 2005 where he averaged 31 points, 8 assists and 2 and a half steals per game. He also averaged 33 points, 7.4 assists, and 2 steals per game in 2006. If Kobe is #12, Iverson should be #11. Or realistically, Kobe should be around 15-20 and Iverson should be in the same scope. My god, if Iverson had a big man to play with. With his stats, #4 all-time ppg and #2 in PLAYOFF ppg at 30 a game behind Michael Jordan. What really makes a great player, one that plays better when there is more on the line.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Any time people are arguing that someone should be higher while another person is arguing that player should be higher than I think that we did something right.

  • http://slamonline.com tonizzle

    ur gonna make a top 50 greatest players list and not add cris webber? … i was extremely dissapointed. he didnt win a ring but he was and still is the best passing big man to ever play this game. what other power foward has his passing abilities along with 20 points per game?

  • P-Dawg

    seriously, i agree with Tariq about some of the people posting on this site about Kidd.If you people are old enough to remember the start of this decade, you will remember how Kidd single-handed transformed the nets team into champ contender. the fact that he was robbed of an MVP award and has no title is what is keeping him at 28. he would be top 20 otherwise. The fact that some of you think he should not even be on this list makes me wonder if you actually watch basketball. and Kidd is one of the greatest five point guards to play this game. ( magic, oscar, stockton and pistol pete or isiah being the other 4- in random order)

  • Zach

    I’m honestly thrilled that Slam left Reggie off the list. Guy was probably the most 1-dimensional, overrated player of the last 50 years and I would’ve been outraged if he’s been on it. I’d say the most glaring omissions are Bill Walton and Dwayne Wade.

  • P-Dawg

    and also all the people questioning kidd’s defense – he is 9x All-Defensive Team member!

  • galleo

    How Mr. Bryant isnt in the top 10 is baffling. And how in THEE world is Shaq ahead of a guy that could play every position and created showtime and got 5 rings! Are you serious.

    The list sucks.

  • two suite

    You guys didn’t put Joe Dumars or Connie Hawkins on this list? This is just a joke, right?

  • two suite

    Bob Lanier is not on this list? I’m going to call the police!

  • essentialexp

    Ben Wallace?!?!?! Really?!?!

  • http://slamonline.com Anthony

    Shawn Kemp would’ve dunked on half those people. Go back and watch tapes of the reign man. Best entertainment, funner to watch then anyone else.

  • Slam Corrector

    It was a mistake to rate Wilt and Shaquille over Kareem. When evaluating the best players you should take into account winning and statistical dominance.

    Clearly all three of these 7 footers were dominant statistically but when you factor in winning (collegiate and pro) Kareem clearly had the most effective career.

    Stat wise we know Kareem is the all time NBA scoring King and his career scoring and rebounding averages are top notch for centers. At UCLA, Kareem led the Bruins to 3 straight NCAA Championships and was the MOP of each and because of him the dunk was outlawed.

    Add those 3 NCAA Championships to the 6 NBA Championships and his dominance is undeniable. So we can look at or combine (Stats, Titles, Awards and Longevity) and Kareem is the best combination of all attributes. Wilt’s got the stats but not enough rings, Russell’s (the greatest winner) has the Championships but was not the offensive force the others were. Shaq has great stats and Championship dominance but he did not do either as well as Kareem.

    Kareem = 3 NCAA Titles & 6 NBA Titles
    Wilt = 0 NCAA Titles & 2 NBA Titles
    Shaq = 0 NCAA Titles & 4 NBA Titles
    Russell = 2 NCAA Titles & 11 NBA Titles

  • Slam Corrector

    When it comes to the guards Slam overrates stats and undervalues winning. The object of the game is to win.

    Yes we all know Oscar’s averaging a triple double is incredibly impressive but he played in an era where the stats were much higher than modern day statistics. Oscar won 1 Championship, Jerry West won 1 Championship, unfortunately the great Elgin Baylor did not win any titles. I agree these guys are great but they did not WIN. Magic Johnson made it to 9 NBA Finals and won 5. The man was always playing for a Championship. Kobe’s 4 titles has put him past West, Baylor and Robertson.

  • Slam Corrector

    The Official Top 15 of The Slam Corrector

    #1) Michael Jordan – Titles, (6NBA, 1NCAA, 2Gold Medals) great stats
    #2) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar – (6NBA, 3NCAA) great stats
    #3) Bill Russell – (11 NBA, 2 NCAA, 1Gold Medal) great “D” and boards
    #4) Wilt Chamberlain – (2NBA) Great stats
    #5) Magic Johnson – (5NBA, 1NCAA, 1 Gold Medal) great QB
    #6) Shaquille O’Neal – (4NBA, 1 Gold Medal) great stats
    #7) Kobe Bryant – (4NBA, 1 Gold Medal) great stats
    #8) Larry Bird – (3NBA, 1 Gold Medal) great stats
    #9) Tim Duncan – (4NBA) great stats
    #10) Oscar Robertson – (1NBA, 1 Gold Medal) great stats
    #11) Julius Erving – (1NBA, 2ABA) great stats
    #12) Hakeem Olajuwon (2 NBA) great stats
    #13) Jerry West (1NBA, 1 Gold Medal) great stats
    #14) John Havlicek (8NBA, 1NCAA) great stats
    #15) Elgin Baylor (no titles) great stats

  • Zach

    after some thought, the 10 most deserving names not on there are . . .

    Nate ‘Tiny’ Archibald
    Hal Greer
    Tim Hardaway
    Pete Maravich
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Paul Pierce
    Robert Parish
    Dwayne Wade
    Bill Walton
    James Worthy

  • Ken

    Who cares about championships. A lot depends on who is on your team. When you look at the individual himself, nobody will ever get near the records of WILT. Before the league was watered down for Jordan to be the NBA facebook, WILT was on the two teams that won more games than any other teams. Someone read the record book.

  • Slam Corrector

    Uhhh Ken, the object of the game is to win. Who cares about “Championships”? LOL! You sound like Iverson…

    We talking about Championships?

    Yes this is what separates the great athletes. Yes I agree the team you are on will play a large role in how many titles you win but Wilt played on some great teams and only closed the deal twice in the NBA and never in College. Stats play a major role in evaluating but you can’t throw being a Champion out of the equation. Michael and Kareem are the best combo of statistically dominant players and Championship dominance.

    Wilt came up a little short in the winning dept…. FACT!

  • Slam Corrector

    To the A.I. Advocate… Its cool, you are an Iverson fan and that’s ok. A.I. was easy to root for and he was a great player but you are wrong to claim A.I. was the best guard of his era, and better than Kobe for most of the past decade. That is “statistically” wrong, it’s “eyeball test” wrong, it’s “results” wrong, it’s “Championship” wrong, it’s “Olympic” wrong, it’s just flat out wrong. Iverson vs. Kobe, AI has the edge in a few areas quickness, steals, assists (but not as much as he should) and he turns the ball over more.

    If you compare the two over the past 10 seasons you will learn the following… (some of this is obvious but I am making a point here so bare with me)

    Championships – Kobe (4 titles, 6 appearances), Iverson (1 appearance)

    Durability – Kobe has played in 66 more regular season games

    Defense – While A.I. gets steals, he is a gambler and Kobe with his size has the ability to guard 3 positions well. Kobe is up there in the discussion of the top defensive guards of his era, Iverson is not.

    Stats –
    PPG: In the past 10 seasons, Kobe has had a better scoring average 5 times and Iverson has had a better scoring average 5 times.

    FG%: In the past 10 seasons, Kobe has had the better FG% 10 out of 10 seasons.

    3PT%: Kobe wins this catagory 6 times, Iverson was better 4 seasons.

    FT%: Kobe is the superior Free Throw shooter besting Iverson 9 out of 10 years

    REB: Obviously with the size advantage Kobe is strong in this catagory better that AI every year. 10 out of 10

    AST: You would think Iverson would own this catagory but AI wins this one 6 out of 10 years but one of the 6 he beats Kobe by 01%. Kobe’s assist totals are quite competitive with Iverson for most of the past decade. Kobe had 3 seasons where he beat A.I. in assists, 1 season where they tied and then the other virtual tie where Iverson averaged 5.0 assists to Kobe’s 4.9… (edge Iverson)

    STL: Iverson owns the steals catagory… 10 out of 10 years

    BLK: Kobe owns the blocks catagory 10 out of 10 years

    TO’s: Iverson consistantly turned the ball over more. Kobe had more turnover’s than Iverson only 1 year out of the decade. They tied in TO’s in 2 other seasons but 7 seasons Iverson was outright more turnover prone than Kobe.

    You said in your post, and I quote: “It is amazing to me that he’s (Kobe) #12 and Iverson is #39. That is just a lack of respect and a generally incompetent view of basketball. Iverson was the best guard in the NBA for about 7 years straight(2000-2007). Kobe didn’t really excel until 2005. I doubt a lot of people know this, but Iverson was in the top 10 in scoring and assists from 2004-2007. He is by far the most dominant offensive player of his era.”

    If Kobe wasn’t excelling then maybe I don’t understand the meaning of that word. I think you should go back and look at there stats again… And then apologize for the temporary insanity you must have experienced.

  • Slam Corrector

    Hope this cut & paste comes out but AIAdvocate I just don’t see how you can crown your boy Iverson the best of his era. Winning, Defense, plus all the stats listed below point to Kobe as the premiere guard of the era. Also the playing with Shaq argument doesn’t hold any weight because he has seasons of playing with a dominant BIG man in Shaq and Pau and he has seasons of playing on a Bum ass team with Kwame Brown. The common denominator is Kobe still produced elite level numbers in either scenario. So don’t Blame it on the Diesel take a look at the numbers then please explain how Iverson is superior…

    Allen Iverson vs Kobe Bryant
    (10 seasons) From the 1999-2000 season to the 2008-2009 season…
    Season #1 1999-2000

    Allen Iverson (Age 24)

    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    70 28.4 .421 .341 .713 3.8 4.7 2.1 0.1 3.3

    Kobe Bryant (Age 21)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    66 22.5 .468 .319 .821 6.3 4.9 1.6 0.9 2.8

    Season #2 2000-2001
    Allen Iverson (Age 25)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    71 31.1 .420 .320 .814 3.8 4.6 2.5 0.3 3.3

    Kobe Bryant (Age 22)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    68 28.5 .464 .305 .853 5.9 5.0 1.7 0.6 3.2

    Season #3 2001-2002
    Allen Iverson (Age 26)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    60 31.4 .398 .291 .812 4.5 5.5 2.8 0.2 4.0

    Kobe Bryant (Age 23)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    80 25.5 .469 .250 .829 5.5 5.5 1.5 0.4 2.8

    Season #4 2002-2003
    Allen Iverson (Age 27)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    82 27.6 .414 .277 .774 4.2 5.5 2.7 0.2 3.5

    Kobe Bryant (Age 24)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    82 30.0 .451 .383 .843 6.9 5.9 2.2 0.8 3.5

    Season #5 2003-2004
    Allen Iverson (Age 28)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    48 26.4 .387 .286 .745 3.7 6.8 2.4 0.1 4.4

    Kobe Bryant (Age 25)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    65 24.0 .438 .327 .852 5.5 5.1 1.7 0.4 2.6

    Season #6 2004-2005
    Allen Iverson (Age 29)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    75 30.7 .424 .308 .835 4.0 7.9 2.4 0.1 4.6

    Kobe Bryant (Age 26)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    66 27.6 .433 .339 .816 5.9 6.0 1.3 0.8 4.1

    Season #7 2005-2006
    Allen Iverson (Age 30)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    72 33.0 .447 .323 .814 3.2 7.4 1.9 0.1 3.4

    Kobe Bryant (Age 27)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    80 35.4 .450 .347 .850 5.3 4.5 1.8 0.4 3.1

    Season #8 2006-2007
    Allen Iverson (Age 31)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    65 26.3 .442 .315 .795 3.0 7.2 1.9 0.2 4.1

    Kobe Bryant (Age 28)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    77 31.6 .463 .344 .868 5.7 5.4 1.4 0.5 3.3

    Season #9 2007-2008
    Allen Iverson (Age 32)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    82 26.4 .458 .345 .809 3.0 7.1 2.0 0.1 3.0

    Kobe Bryant (Age 29)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    82 28.3 .459 .361 .840 6.3 5.4 1.8 0.5 3.1

    Season #10 2008-2009
    Allen Iverson (Age 33)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    57 17.5 .417 .283 .781 3.0 5.0 1.5 0.1 2.6

    Kobe Bryant (Age 30)
    G PPG FG% 3pt% FT% REB AST STL BLK TO
    82 26.8 .467 .351 .856 5.2 4.9 1.5 0.5 2.6

  • Slam Corrector

    Ohh well it didn’t cut and paste well, but look it up yourself and you will see the numbers don’t lie nor does the winning…

  • B.B.BALLER

    Rodmen over Pistol SHAQ and Duncan over Bird Nash over DWade.I do like where u put King James though.

  • bball3r

    no way kareem and tim duncan should be over larry bird. gary payton is way too high if even being on the list. lebrons pretty high for not winning a championship. wade should definetely be on the list. nash shouldnt

  • Belz

    Top 50 is an awesome list…what a difficult task in itself in choosing, much less ranking the talent. However, not to see Pete Maravich is sad. From the biography…”Pete Maravich”..check out these quotes from those who are on the Top 50 list:
    “Pistol Pete is a legend to all who understand the History of Basketball”—Jason Kidd

    Oh my..he did things with the bbal that players-still today-can’t do. If Maravich was playing today he would be a god”—Isiah Thomas

    “Pete was ‘The Man”. I’d just sit there, watch him, and shake my head and say to myself…how did he do that?–Magic Johnson

    “I’ve got alot of Pistol Pete in my game+–Steve Nash

    “I learned all my tricks from Pete Maravich.”–Kobe Bryant

    “He was one of the truly great players that could fill an arena.”–Larry Bird

    Pete was the original. He was the best ball handler I ever saw. EVER!”–Pat Riley

    “He was one of the few players in the history of this game that I would PAY to see play.”–Bob Lanier

    Rafer Alston and Chris Paul to this day watch videos of the Pistol. Walt Frazier said if Pete were playing today he would be the biggest draw in the NBA. Something I never new until I read the book….the nuber of “triple doubles” Pete had. In the back of the book it lists his top 25 games…and the stats are gawdy.

    I’m a fan of your magazine, but I personally feel an oversight for the Pistol.

  • Ken

    If championships is the only criteria than Russell and about every player on that team have at least more rings than Jordan. Dan Marino and Dan Fouts never won a superbowl but you can’t say as a quaterback they were not great QBs. I am only debating what the individual himself did against his peers. When you do things that nobody has or will never get close to ….how do you give it to someone else. Also, basketball was not the entertainment sport that it is today. Back than, it was the game. How many ever saw West or the Big O shot from the 3 point line which than was only 2 points. The league today is watered down with to many teams which allow high school kids to join the league. Wilt dominated the league from day 1 as a rookie……look at the record book. Jordan did not.

  • Slam Corrector

    Ken,
    I’m not saying championships should be the ONLY criteria… I think the most important 2 factors are Stats and Championships. I agree Wilt Chamberlain is undeniably GREAT but with these “who’s the best” discussions we are splitting hairs. You mention Wilt dominated the league from day 1 as a rookie and Jordan did not. I don’t agree with that and their situations were different. Wilt entered the NBA at the age of 23 and averaged 37.6 points per game. Jordan was 21 years old when he entered the league and averaged 28.2 ppg (that’s dominant by the way). Jordan was hurt his second year and only played a few games. But Jordans second “FULL” season he was 23 years old and averaged 37.1 ppg. So at the age of 23 both Wilt and Michael averaged 37 points a game.

    Wilt played in an era where the league leaders in points and rebounds were averaging #’s much higher than modern day basketball. I bet if Wilt or Elgin Baylor or Oscar Robertson or Bill Russell or any other great player from that era played in the 80′s their #’s would be significantly lower. I don’t think Wilt would average 50 per game in the modern era.

    Making an argument for Wilt to be #1 on the list of the greatest players is fair, I just don’t agree and I think Championships along with stats should be considered. Which is why Jordan with 6 titles, and Kareem with 6 titles top my list.

  • Ricku

    Let’s be logical and for good reasoning. When you talk about top 10 players in the NBA of all time, you should consider 1. Who is the player? 2. What has he done (championship wins, career statistics and highlights) 3. How passionate and a strong-minded person he is or was. 4. How relevant is he TODAY?
    5. Does he really love the game of basketball.

    I may have exxagerated number 5 but it is essential and a must have if you are to be called great. So you are really looking at well-rounded players who never played basketball for all the wrong reasons and were real true athletes of the game.

    My Top 10
    1. Michael Jordan
    2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
    3. Kobe Bryant (maybe a stretch but after this year, definitely behind MJ)
    4. Magic Johnson (I really have Kobe & Magic at a close tie, so no. 3 & no. 4 you can go either way)
    5. Hakeem Olajuwon
    6. Larry Bird
    7. Bill Russel
    8. Wilt Chamberlain
    9. Oscar Robertson
    10. Julius “Dr. J.” Erving

    Of course, no one should argue at the fact that a basketball or NBA championship is a must have in order for you to be top 10.

    Honorable mentions who can be arguable for top ten players of all-time….

    David Robinson, Issiah Thomas, Tim Duncan, John Havlicheck, Jerry West, Bob Petit, Kevin McHale, Shaquille O’Neal, Kevin Garnett, Karl Malone, John Stockton

  • Zach

    I have trouble taking seriously any list that ranks Kareem, Kobe, and Hakeem above Bird, Russell, and Chamberlain.

  • juane

    WADE 2006 is the best performence in the history…

  • Slam Corrector

    @Zach
    Kareem is over Larry Bird in every way, stats, or championships…

    The 4 Centers you mention plus Shaq make up the top 5 centers of all time. I agree with you that Hakeem with only 2 championships has no business being ranked ahead of any of the other players you mentioned.

    But Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell are equals and one could make a compelling argument for any of the 3 to be in the #1 or #2 spot of all time.

    Bill Russell’s got the championship argument locked down with 11 NBA Titles but his statistical dominance was not on the level of Wilt or Kareem.

    Wilt Chamberlain’s got the statistical argument locked down but he is lacking in the winning department with 2 NBA Titles.

    Kareem is the combo, he’s the All Time leading scorer, he was clearly statistically dominant and with his 6 Championships he was dominant in that regard as well.

    To me I have no problem with someone ranking those 3 in any order…

    Finally, Kobe vs Bird, both these guys are clearly 2 of the best to ever lace em up. But Kobe has been to the NBA Finals 6 Times and won 4 Championships and looks primed for more, while Larry Legend appeared in 5 NBA Finals and won 3. The both have great stats, I don’t see how you could not take seriously Kobe being ranked higher than Bird…

    To each his own…

  • Zach

    Kobe is awesome, but of the 4 titles he has won, 3 came as the 2nd best player on a team with Shaq at his peak. And all champions during the last 10 years have come during the most watered down period the league has ever known. If he wins another I’d bump him to the top 10 for sure. But Bird is inarguably the best forward of all-time. And Bird’s titles came during the 80s in the east, when Philly, Detroit, Atlanta, and later Chicago had some tremendous teams. Magic/Kareem’s 80s titles are a bit inflated bc they were the class of a terrible western conference for a decade.

    As for Kareem, he’s a great player, but nowhere near as dominant as Chamberlain was on offense. Some of his totals rank higher bc he played forever, but if there was an open tryout and all players were at their peak, I see nobody taking Kareem above Wilt. Compare averages, not just totals. As for Russell, it’s not just his rings, which make him top 5 regardless. He’s the single most dominant defensive player of alltime (they didn’t even keep blocks as a stat, which is like discounting home runs for Babe Ruth). Wilt is the greatest offensive player ever. There’s really no argument for either of those statements. And both were significantly better rebounders than Jabbar. I’d put Jabbar 3rd bc his stats and rings ultimately rank above Hakeem and Shaq, but I’m not convinced he was better than either one of them.

  • Andy

    I’m a huge Spurs fan. And I believe Duncan is the greatest PF of all time; his defense and ability to come through in big games far exceeds Malone’s; Malone lost a lot of big games to non-Bulls teams, too.

    But I don’t think Duncan should be above Larry Bird. Like Slam said, Bird had no business averaging 10 boards/game from the SF spot w/ virtually no athleticism… yet he did. Even when the incredibly long-armed Kevin McHale was a starter, he never averaged double digit boards for Boston. And the fact that Larry averaged 6 assists/game w/o being the primary ball handler in a testament to how incredible a passer he was.

    Besides that, I’m overjoyed that Duncan skyrocketed from #55 in 2003 to #8 in 2009; Slam usually never gives him props. I would put Russell over Wilt, however; take away Wilt’s 1967 title, and would he even be considered top 5? That one time he beat Russell always seems to carry more weight than the numerous times Russell beat Chamberlain. I’d probably put Shaq over Wilt too, but that’s just me.

  • Andy

    At this point Kobe’s passed up West. It’s still kind of debatable, since Baylor and West were not so much Batman & Robin like Shaq and Kobe were, but more like Batman & Batman, two equally important stars. And unlike Kobe, West was one of the best players in the league for every single year of his career. But Kobe prob has the edge now due to the titles, and if he wins another title as the main guy, he will be head and shoulders above the Logo.

  • Slam Corrector

    Andy,
    Why is it you give equal credit to Baylor and West and “Batman & Batman” but you discredit Kobe as “Robin” to Shaq’s “Batman”

    I think people have this view because of 2 factors #1 Shaq’s gargantuan size, him being so huge people want to discredit other’s contributions, also Kobe’s youth, Bryant coming out of High School people wanted to go with the whole big brother little brother narrative but the #’s tell a different story.

    I see that Shaq Kobe duo if we are to keep the super hero analogy as Superman and Batman, both are Super Stars. If you look at the stats take the 2000-2001 season where they won title #2 of their 3, Both these guys averaged 28 points per game. The #’s don’t lie this was a partnership of two of the greatest players of All Time. It’s like Stockton and Malone they were stars on equal footing.

  • shukra

    WTF SHAQ ABOVE KAREEM

  • kamika

    As far as I know, elvin hayes WON a championship with the 78 bullets. Check your facts buddy. Iverson should be higher. Duncan should be lower. Way lower. Top 10? Thats just disrespectful to the game. Kobe….meh. Lakers only deserved one of those 3 championships (SEE: NBA refs). He should be lower, and lebron should not be on this list. Nowhere close. When the hell was he better than D-Wade, much less Earl monroe. Respect for getting Nique in there. Hes a beast, but gets no respect. Dwight, CP3, and wade are gonna kick the bottom 3 of this list out soon enough. shaq should be a little lower. Not outta the top 10, but still.

  • kamika

    As far as I know, elvin hayes WON a championship with the 78 bullets. Check your facts buddy. Iverson should be higher. Duncan should be lower. Way lower. Top 10? Thats just disrespectful to the game. Kobe….meh. Lakers only deserved one of those 3 championships (SEE: NBA refs). He should be lower, and lebron should not be on this list. Nowhere close. When the hell was he better than D-Wade, much less Earl monroe. Respect for getting Nique in there. Hes a beast, but gets no respect. Dwight, CP3, and wade are gonna kick the bottom 3 of this list out soon enough. shaq should be a little lower. Not outta the top 10, but still.

  • kamika

    My bad, you guys put that he won one in that list.
    Stock, Isiah, Kareem, and Magic deserve to be higher.

  • Zach

    Kamika, Lebron should not be on this list??? The only reason he isn’t higher is bc he’s only been playing since 2003, but based on numbers and ability, he’s already top 15 material.

  • weew

    where the heck is dwyane wade?????

    man this list is incomplete…. robert horry????

    come on man where are there names….

    lebron with no ring is on the list while robert horry with 7 NBA rings…. what a rip off……

    Chauncey Billups is not also included….. damn those authors are nuts!!!

  • Zach

    weew, you can’t possibly be serious about Robert Horry can you?

  • Andy

    Slam Corrector,

    I’ll concede that Kobe was not merely a sidekick, the Robin analogy isn’t too fitting. I do not, however, consider him as integral to Shaq as a teammate as was Stockton to Malone or Baylor to West. Now, Shaq has had a pretty lucky career in that until Phoenix he has ended up on teams with outstanding perimeter players (even now he’s w/ Lebron). This is unlike Kareem, who for a stretch in the 70s didn’t have a great point guard– or a great teammate, period (maybe this is why Shaq’s higher), so had seasons in his prime when he didn’t even make the playoffs. And without Kobe, the Lakers would not have won any of those three titles from 2000-2002. As a Spurs fan, I think Kobe was more important to beating the Spurs than to Shaq; SA had the interior defense, but nothing on the perimeter until Bowen came along. But from 1999 to 2004, Shaq was the Lakers’ most important player, i.e. using my poor analogy, the Batman. Not because he was the elder statesmen, either. What Kobe is to the league now, Shaq was back then; when he got the ball, you pretty much knew what was going to happen. But this wasn’t the case with Kobe during those years playing with Shaq. During crunchtime, sure, but not throughout the entire game. I can say that with confidence as a NBA fan. When Shaq got the ball, I basically was waiting for the other team’s inbound pass. This was not the case with Kobe back then. And Shaq having to sit out a game for LA was much more drastic than Kobe sitting out a game. Compare the beginning of the ’02-03 season w/o Shaq and w/ Kobe to any previous stretch w/o Kobe and w/ Shaq. Kobe is out of this world now, and back then he was extremely good, too… but during those years, he was not the wholly unstoppable force that Shaq was.

  • Andy

    Slam Corrector,

    I also just took a look at your top 15 list. It is obviously a good list, though it does differ from mine. Maybe mainly b/c I only take NBA/ABA accomplishments into account, not the Olympic or college game.

    1. Bill Russell – 11 titles, 5 MVPs, won early and late, was the main reason Wilt isn’t universally considered the greatest player of all time, and the main reason a slew of other guys aren’t considered in the top ten all timers

    2. Michael Jordan – 6 titles, 5 MVPs, I don’t really have a problem ranking him #1 (he’s MJ after all), but I take Russell b/c he led his team to the title almost every single year of his career. 11 titles in 13 seasons compared to 6 in 14 gives him the edge. Skillwise for his position, however, Jordan is probably the best of all time

    3. Magic Johnson – 5 titles, 3 MVPs, along w/ Bird he represented basketball at its finest. I used to rank Bird slightly higher thinking that Parish and McHale combined were still inferior to Kareem, but then I discovered how good Kevin McHale was. Plus, Magic made the finals w/o Kareem in ’91. Still, despite all that, it really could go either way btwn Bird and Magic in my mind

    4. Larry Bird – 3 titles, 3 MVPs, best passing forward of all time, for a while he ruled a stacked Eastern conference

    5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar – 6 titles, 6 MVPs, statistically dominated the 1st half of his career and spent the 2nd half racking up titles, main knock from me is that he seemed to need a great point guard (not just a great point guard either, apparently two of the greatest of all time) to be championship material.

    6. Tim Duncan – 4 titles, 2 MVPs, arguably (though it really shouldn’t be) the greatest PF of all time, gets the nod from me over Shaq b/c he has not had the same amazing talent around him (Manu, Tony, and old Robinson are great but not young Penny/Kobe/Wade great) and has managed to win just as much. For a while, title hopes always seemed to be derailed by single plays (Fisher’s shot in ’04, Dirk’s And1 in ’06). Stats would be better if he had a more lenient coach who didn’t limit playing time. Regardless, stats are my main knock on him.

    7. Shaquille O’Neal – 4 titles, 1 MVP, along w/ Wilt one of the two most unstoppable centers of all time, knock is that he has rarely played w/o a great swingman… the one year he didn’t have one, he had a 2 time MVP PG and a first team big man for much of the season, yet didn’t even make the playoffs

    8. Hakeem Olajuwon – 2 titles, 1 MVP, best center of his era, arguably the most skilled center of all time, took off where MJ left off after his 1st retirement, derailing the title hopes of Stockton, Malone, Barkley, Robinson, Ewing, and a young Shaq, and did so in 1994 w/ a bunch of solid role players rather than another star.

    9. Wilt Chamberlain – 2 titles, 4 MVPs, statistically the most dominant player of all time, most people always rank him top 5 but I’ve never been able to justify ranking him higher than any of the guys I put above him. It always seems like the one time Wilt beat Russell’s team in ’67 gets so much more attention than the numerous times Russell beat Wilt. The two times that he lost to a beat up Willis Reed-led Knicks hurt him too. Still one of the best players of all time, I’ve just never ranked him above any of the guys from 1-8

    10. Kobe Bryant – 4 titles, 1 MVP, the closest thing to MJ, after I post this I’ll probably change my mind and rank him above Wilt. Main knocks are [see my above post] and that defensive rules changes have greatly benefited perimeter players of his era. But I’m sure he’ll be ranked higher than this unless something terrible happens

    11. Bob Pettit – 1 title, 2 MVPs, 10 time first teamer in 11 years, easily the best forward in the league until Baylor came along and the two dominated the position. Did what West and Baylor couldn’t do: get past Bill Russell, and he did so without the benefit of teammates of West/Baylor’s caliber. Main knock is his short career compared to others; if he had played longer, his stats would’ve taken the inevitable dip

    12. Oscar Robertson – 1 title, 1 MVP, amazing all around player, great FG% from his position knock is that his stats are inflated due to the style of the game back when he played. Still impressive that he was the only guy who pulled it off, however. Another knock is he played more playoffs games in his last 4 seasons than his first 10 combined, when he was the undisputed leader of his team. I don’t rank Garnett high for his statistical accomplishments but playoff mediocrity in Minnesota, so why should I judge Robertson any differently? It’s probably because Big O was the best point guard of his era (sorry Cousy). I do think Slam tends to rank him too high, however. Aside from his game, resenting Jerry Lucas just b/c he was white never sat well w/ me either (blame the media, not Jerry), when the two of them probably could’ve had some great playoff runs together. That doesn’t affect my ranking of him, but it makes me question his priorities compared to Baylor, West, and other perpetual losers

    13. Jerry West – 1 title, no MVPs, easily the greatest player who never won MVP (finishing 2nd on 4 occasions), stats can stand up even next to later greats like MJ and Kobe, great FG% for his position, main knock is seven finals losses in his first seven finals appearances, and eight in nine overall despite consistently having great teammates.

    14. Elgin Baylor – no titles, no MVPs, even with stat inflation he has the career stats of a much bigger player (27 and 13), the best player to never win a championship, not winning one in eight finals appearances is his main knock

    15. Moses Malone – 1 title, 3 MVPs, the first great straight from high school player, probably the most overlooked of the all time centers (certainly the only 3 time MVP that ever gets overlooked) b/c he bounced around on crappy teams early and late in his career, not to mention he relied on an “ugly” blue-collar game. The greatest offensive rebounder of all time took a 40-42 Rockets team to within two games of the NBA title, took Dr. J and Philly to the title 3 years later, sweeping the team of the decade in the process. Dr. J was more skilled and more exciting, but I’ll take Moses if ever so slightly for his unhyped, overlooked dominance

    I’m sure you’ll disagree w/ a good number of my choices, but that’s ok. I really wanted to put Dr. J and John Havlicek up there. Sometimes there just aren’t enough spots.

  • the jdawg

    nash, rodman, kidd, and pippen on this list are ridiculous…they doesn’t belong… especially pippen-no one in sports history has been more historically fortunate than pippen, who couldn’t do a darn thing without mj. no pistol pete is a travesty…no d-wade, no james worthy, no robert parish, no bill walton? get real. where to start with nash? kevin johnson, tony parker, chris paul, dennis johnson, joe dumars are all far superior guards. i am a huge shaq fan, but cannot put him in front of jabbar or magic. no way duncan is better than bird. i would drop isiah about 10-15 spots and raise stockton up. i also question gary payton.

  • erererere

    Where the F… is reggie miller????????

  • Andy

    Dang, how come my post showed up as a huge clump instead of a list

  • Zach

    jdawg, I’d argue Pippen in a way was the most Unfortunate player in NBA history. He was the best defensive player of his generation and a versatile offensive threat who took a lot of pressure off of Jordan. They wouldn’t have won 6 titles with just anyone in his spot.

  • TripleOcho

    Jason Kidd at 28!?!? WTF? The guy doesn’t even deserve to be in discussion of top 100. The guy can’t shoot, was never a great or even good scorer, and he never accomplished anything, even while playing with guys like Dirk and VC. Also, Dennis Rodman may be one of the best defensive players of all-time, but his offensive game isn’t even average. He doesn’t belong here either. Finally, Steve Nash on this list is really dumb. The guy could shoot and pass, but other than that, nothing. He is one of the most overrated players of all-time who stole his two MVP’s from Kobe Bryant. I mean just think about it….the guy played with Amare Stoudemire, Shawn Marion, and a very solid supporting cast…and still wasn’t even ever able to make it to a single NBA Finals, not to mention he can’t play D worth a darn. Any other two-time MVP on that roster wins a couple of rings at least.

  • hawksfan4lyf

    hawks’ dominique really is THE best dunker of all time if it wasnt for the bulls dominance in the 90s they would have been to the finals

    kobe and lebron shall go up especially because of the championship ring for jellybean bryant

    cp3 needs a ring with him being the finals mvp
    same with d wade

    LETS GO HAWKS!!!! champs 09-10 lol NOW U KNOW!!
    nothing wrong with being optimistic lol

  • http://yes.com LbJis KING

    WHAT?!? i dont like this list.
    in my list LeBron James is #2
    hes the KING. he led his team to the semi-finals of the 2009 playoffs.
    kobe has gasol and fisher. who does lebron have? no one as good as them! though ilgauskas is the closest.
    cmon!!!

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