Saturday, October 9th, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  220 responses

The Blueprint

There will never be another Michael Jordan.

Point blank, Michael Jordan is the greatest player ever.  In our newly released SLAM Presents Jordan 2010, Russ Bengtson breaks down why that is. (If you’re feeling this essay, be sure to pick up a copy of the special issue now). — Ed.

SLAM Presents Jordan: Michael Jordan Essay.

by Russ Bengtson

There will never be another Michael Jordan. Sometimes it’s best to get the obvious out of the way right out front, and this feels like one of those times. So, there. “The Best there Ever Was, The Best there Ever Will Be”? Yep. It’s right there on his statue in front of the United Center, literally carved in literal stone, and thus inarguable. So that’s that. Right?

Maybe. Michael Jordan wasn’t the best at everything, and he didn’t do everything first. Bill Russell finished with double fistfuls of rings, Wilt Chamberlain averaged 50 points a game, Dr. J dunked from the free-throw line. In a sense, Jordan was the ultimate aggregator-he took the best of everyone who came before and rolled it up into a ready-for-prime-time package. He threw down ridiculous dunks, scored bucketloads of points and won championships. Even played defense and practiced. And fortunately for him (and for us), his rise coincided with the NBA’s. They lifted each other to heights never before reached. Jordan was the right player at the right time, and the world conspired to make him a god.

Not to say it was all manufactured. Far from it. Jordan’s unedited NBA career spooled out like the most implausible of movies, from dropping 63 points on the 1986 Celtics (in their house, no less) to that last, hanging jumper over Bryon Russell. Even the Wizards epilogue, jarring in its entirety, provided moments to savor. Scoring 50 as a gimpy 40-year-old? Who does that? Not to mention two more All-Star Games and the priceless gift of allowing countless more fans to say they saw him play live. In the meantime-even while the real Jordan was still in his prime-a fruitless search for the next Jordan went on.

Paradoxically, there has been no next Jordan, there can be no next Jordan, for the simple reason that there was a first Jordan. “If I could be like Mike”? No chance. His career was structured in such a way that it can never be duplicated, only imitated. It wasn’t perfect-after all, his teams did get taken to two Game 7s (which they, um, won)-but it was so close that it may as well have been. The comparisons will always be there, and everyone who strives will always fall short. Fall too short, and you’re Harold Miner. Come too close, and you’re Kobe Bryant. The greatest tragedy of Kobe’s career-if you can find tragedy in a five-times-and-counting NBA Champion and certain first-ballot Hall of Famer-is that it cannot be viewed except through the Jordan filter. (It doesn’t help that his championships were all won playing for Michael’s old coach.) Five rings? Sure, but he’s only been Finals MVP twice. And he was only regular-season MVP once. Better than Jordan? Yeah, right.

Here’s the thing: Jordan built his career on the foundation laid down by those who came before him; Dr. J and David Thompson among them. This is how it always worked. Others who came after were expected to do the same. But Jordan didn’t leave much room for future players to build a legacy of their own. While those he emulated had fallen short or left things unfinished, Jordan didn’t. How do you build on a mansion? The game itself changed, and Jordan was the one who changed it. It’s hard to believe that any one player will ever usher in that sort of change again. Jordan defeated all the archetypes, expanded the game, created an archetype of his own (the basketball Terminator-a relentless cyborg covered in a thin human shell). It’s not even a question of whether anyone can equal his greatness-rather, is his greatness even one that can be equalled?

It might not be possible to follow in his footsteps at all. The fragmentation of the media has taken away the chance of having that mythology built up. The fragmentation of the NBA (and the apparent willingness of even the biggest stars to leave their teams) has taken away the chance to battle and battle before overcoming a particular challenge. And the battles aren’t the same anyway-teams like the Bad Boy Pistons and the Riley Knicks are as much of an anachronism as set shots and underhanded free-throws. Beat a team now, and another rises to take its place. There are no clear-cut heroes, no unmistakable villains, just an ever-changing pool of challengers. It’s hard to be king of the mountain when the mountain itself is gone.

It goes both ways, of course. In a way, Jordan was fortunate to have played when he did. We don’t know what the effect of a 24-hour news cycle would have been on MJ’s career, how he would have been seen filtered through the eyes of hungry bloggers, pop-culture-addled columnists and Rachel Nichols. When Sam Smith wrote The Jordan Rules, it was a radical act-the unmasking of a superhero. Now? Re-reading it 20 years later, what are the shocks? That he was vulgar? That he was competitive? His Hall of Fame speech was more damning. But for the first six years of his career, the public perception of Michael Jordan was shaped by fawning beatwriters, Sports Illustrated profiles, the NBA on NBC, and Nike’s ad agencies. By the time The Jordan Rules went to press, his perceived personality was more or less set in stone.

Compare that to someone like LeBron James, who’s been a highly scrutinized public property since he was in high school. Unlike Jordan, he wasn’t allowed to grow within that protective umbrella, to just play basketball while the rest was taken care of. Now? Controlled access has become a thing of the past, what with the emergence of Flipcams and camera phones and Twitter accounts. No longer do we need to wait on the Curry Kirkpatrick stories and the Walter Iooss photos and the Wieden + Kennedy campaigns to get the filtered truthiness. Like HBO Sports says, nothing is out of bounds.

So what happens? Let’s say LeBron averages a triple-double for a season (although it seems highly unlikely), or 40 points a game, or wins eight NBA titles (forgetting for the moment that just equaling Jordan would require him to win at least one Finals game, then-appropriately enough-23 more). Would he be viewed as Jordan’s better then? Maybe not. Leaving Cleveland and teaming with Dwyane Wade in Miami took him off the One True Path-and all it takes is a single misstep to fall. Not to mention being just like Mike, only better, simply doesn’t cut it. You have to change the game.

But who knows? Maybe things will be viewed differently in the future. Maybe the LeBron/Wade/Chris Bosh Heat team does change the game in some fundamental way. Maybe 100 years from now, when the topic of the greatest is debated by people who never saw Michael or Kobe or LeBron play live, there will be a sense of objectivity that doesn’t-that can’t-exist in our time. After all, historians love to revise. Maybe when emotion is stripped away and careers are judged simply by the numbers, someone else will be viewed as the best there ever was, the best that ever will be.

But probably not.

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  • Justin

    Kobe would have had a much better shot at Jordan’s legacy if it weren’t for the Denver thing and for the whole mess when he was playing with Shaq. Yes, Jordan’s “transgressions” came out as well but WAY after he was put on that pedestal. If Kobe had gone about things the same way it might be a different story, although he would still fall a little short. He’s as close as they come though.
    KB8…Jordan would struggle to get points against Kobe? Surely you’re joking? Your arguments for Wilt are pretty good except for one thing. You say his height advantage wasn’t that great because of what he did to Russell but who else did he go against? Russell was great, no doubt, but the rest of the league was small in comparison.

  • KB8toSG8

    @Justin…..what else would you want? He dominated Russel. I showed you all the 40 point and all that stuff kinda games against Russel and his Celtics. Why weren’t Russell’s stats so unbelievable against the same guys?? Jordan wouldn’t struggle to get points on Kobe? Some of you guys seem to forget that when motivated, Kobe has always managed to lock down every single player ( save I guess Carmelo who would always be panting and taking in lots of fluid during TOs when playing vs Kobe.) Kobe can and would definitely give a hard time for Mike to score. And that’s a fact. Mike would agree too. And, when Jordan was playing, the league was totally diluted. Name me alteast 2 players that played Mike’s position, had Mike’s height and played stellar D. Mike was also fortunate to play when the league was expanding to newer teams. The talent pool was diluted. That’s also a fact. A fact that MJ took advantage of. Just like Wilt did.@JTaylor, there you go. Hating again. Atleast Kobe tanked in Game 7 after half-time when the Lakers looked totally lost ( which I believe is false. He can’t always explode for 40-60 points right? And when Kobe and the Lakers beat other teams during the regular season using the same tactics, nobody complained I see.) unlike your King who tanked half the series. Give it a rest would you. Try as hard as you can to deny Kobe’s greatness, I can easily demolish LeBron’s too..

  • KB8toSG8

    Also, Russel was as tall as Odom and had a great wingspan. The best defender in MJ’s era was……..Pippen? Rodman? Hmmm……

  • The Philosopher

    Kobe would get 50 easily from Jordan.
    Larry Hughes. 40
    Allan Houston. 50
    Gilbert Arenas. 60
    Michael Jordan would have a hard time scoring on Kobe?
    Those other guys are not even Hall Of Famers.

  • KB8toSG8

    @The Philosopher…..would be oh so kind as to notice that I said WHEN MOTIVATED. Do you think he would be motivated to face against Larry Hughes, Allan Houston. I think it was when Kobe also had 40 points. And I don’t think Kobe was defending him. Gilbert had a great night against LA. I’d give you that. Hell, Kobe let Quentin Richardson burn him 3 after 3 against the Heat last season. Again, Kobe Bryant plays stellar D when he is motivated enough to do so. Gilbert was off the charts that day. In 1996, Pooh Richardson lit up Jordan…Pooh Richardson. Hell, I didn’t even hear his name till now :D . Damon Stoudamire had his way with Jordan that year (Stoudamire’s rookie season). While Stoudamire was very quick, Phil Jackson’s answer to him spoke volumes about Jordan: Phil put Scottie Pippen on Stoudamire. Jordan was so slow that a 6’7″ 225 lb FORWARD was Jackson’s answer to a guard. Those are a few examples. And who doesn’t remember AI’s crossover on MJ :D

  • http://slamonline.com Philly

    zeke took out bird, magic And Jordan in 89.. that must count for something

  • KB8toSG8

    Coop held MJ to 13 points. Jordan had trouble defending guys like miller or starks who were good scorers but not known as guys who could score 30 a game as a D-Wade, Kobe, or Lebron type player.

    If anything, Jordan’s defense was overrated. Particularly after he came back. And even before he quit for baseball, Coop was the better guy. Jordan had more stats like BLK, SPG etc. but Coop did all the dirty work. Kinda like D12 winning the award but IMO, Battier, Wallace, Artest, Bowen etc. deserved to win the award multiple times to say the least.

  • KB8toSG8

    Zeke!!! I forgot all about him…..He’s definitely in the Top 10 players…. :( . I simply can’t make up my Top 10 guys……

  • The Philosopher

    Everybody has a bad night.

  • JoeMaMa

    Taken from yahoo:
    Another common misperception is that Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain played against only 6’6″ white centers. That is completely false. Here are the NBA players from 1960-1972 6’11″ or taller who played at least 3 years in the NBA: (list does not include Wilt Chamberlain)

    Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7’2″
    Dennis Awtrey: 6’11″
    Walt Bellamy: 6’11″
    Tom Boerwinkle: 7’0″
    Nate Bowmen: 6’11″
    Mel Counts: 7’0″
    Walter Dukes: 7’0″
    Jim Eakins: 6’11″
    Ray Felix: 6’11″
    Hank Finkel: 7’0″
    Artis Gilmore: 7’2″
    Swede Halbrook: 7’3″
    Reggie Harding: 7’0″
    Bob Lanier: 6’11″
    Jim McDaniels: 6’11″
    Otto Moore: 6’11″
    Dave Newmark: 7’0″
    Rich Niemann: 7’0″
    Billy Paultz: 6’11″
    Craig Raymond: 6’11″
    Elmore Smith: 7’0″
    Chuck Share: 6’11″
    Ronald Taylor: 7’1″
    Nate Thurmond: 6’11″
    Walt Wesley: 6’11″

  • tomek

    Let me be the first one to call it: “Russ is the Greatest (Slam Writer) Of All Times”

  • JoeMaMa

    With 9 teams in the league during Wilt’s years, the competition was tougher, too. It’s not like double teams didn’t exist either, or shadowing a player. Also, he ran the 100m in under 11 seconds, was a high jump champion, and when he retired he played volleyball, winning the MVP of a professional volleyball all star game…but those are just cherries on top. Wilt played with and against great players; it’s fallacy to think he dominated only short guys his whole life. People just say things to explain away his superhuman feats on the court…but they refuse to acknowledge just how dominant he was. Wilt is, bar none, the best ever. I’d said this a million times: you can only truly compare a player against those he played against, for obvious reasons (evolution of the game, reffing styles, travel, league make up, even social norms). And Wilt was more dominant than anyone else. Lesson done.

  • KB8toSG8

    @JoeMaMa…..You just delivered the final punch. :D Was searching for that. But couldn’t find all of them.@Philosopher…..now, why can’t Kobe have a bad night??

  • KB8toSG8

    Face the facts, Jordan lovers, Wilt was/is and forever will be the GREATEST ever. Hell, you guys say that Jordan played in the greatest defensive era (BS) Have you ever stopped to wonder that even Jordan was allowed to hand-check him matchups? That would also probably mean that his defense is overrated when compared to Kobe’s….who can’t hand-check others. That would mean that Kobe was better defensively than Jordan and Jordan was a bit better offensively. ( Only a bit because Jordan only faced iso defense other than the Pistons who cleverly hid their semi-zone and never faced team defense like that of the Celtics which Kobe faced. Kobe on iso would KILL….) Now, would you accept such claims or just shrug it off saying that I’m an idiot?? Note: By no means am I stating that Kobe is better than Jordan. Am just saying that MJ isn’t as untouchable and can be defeated as well. The media makes him sound like that.

  • Blackphantom

    Hmm, let’s really compare whose the better player, Michael or Wilt. Who do you think would win that game one-on-one?

  • larrylegend

    @Philly: No, larry DNP the whole season and magic was injured during the finals (i think other lakers too).
    the only problems i have with mj are 1. he took to many spotlight like with miami and the lakers nowadays 2. it seems as if he gets every damn foul call during his 2nd 3-peat 3. the way he approched his teammates, could have been better.
    other than that he played the perfect sidekick to pip :-)

  • Justin

    No, the media doesn’t make him sound like that. 99.5% of the players who have ever played against or seen him are making him sound like that. If Jordan wasn’t allowed to handcheck, he would adjust. He was quicker than everybody at his position and smarter too. If he wasn’t handchecked he could have scored over 40/game. He went one season scoring over 37 a game and that was with handchecks. AND he’s a guard, not just a guy sitting under the rim with his arms out waiting for the pass and simpleton finger roll

  • JoeMaMa

    Playing one-on-one to see who’s best is a silly way to determining how someone influences a TEAM sport. I’m not going to diss Jordan; the guy’s freaking amazing. But Wilt did things on a nightly basis that would equate to a career game for 99.9% of other NBA players. I’ve shown that he did these things against other tall guys, and did so in a league that only 9 teams. I also love that Wilt led the league in assists for a season. Who else has led the league in points, boards, and assists throughout their career??! (99% sure of blocks too, though they weren’t counted back then)

  • KB8toSG8

    @Justin

    You think Wilt just stood under the basket and dunked it in? I’m not even going to answer that. Its that stupid. Yes, Jordan would’ve adjusted. Definitely. He could’ve continued to play stellar D without handchecking. The key factor is : COULD’VE. Yet, we don’t use the same for KB or Wilt. We assume that they CAN’T play better in a different era, but MJ is BEST in any era. See my point? See what the media can do??? A simpleton finger roll? You think its that easy? In that era? What’s next? Sky hook is a simpleton move?!@JoeMaMa, yes. Its said that if blocks were counted, Wilt would average atleast 15 blocks a game. That’s a quadraple double right there. Name me one other guy that can do that in the history of this game. NONE. HENCE, WILT>>>>REST.

  • Armando

    Good points… And hypotethically, if you were to move one player from one “era” (they are overlapping so it’s kind of a strange term), you would have to move that whole player’s life as well so that he gets the same benefits from the development of coaching, etc. For example: You can’t just put Chamberlain into todays league and say he would suck, the same way that his 50ppg and 22rpg doesn’t translate either (or Robertson’s triple doubles). Just for the hell of it: An aging wilt held his own against a young Lew Alcindor, who in turn held his own in an era where Bird, Johnson and Jordan dominated, who in turn was the best player in an era with O’Neal, Duncan and Garnett, and so forth and so forth…

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    This is why i like it when the NBA season (or atleast the SLAMONLINE season) gets going again…. RUSS IN THE HOUSE>

  • yaboy20

    @kb8 So i guess according to you greatness is defined by stats in numbers so i guess to you yea Wilt is the greatest so i guess when Lebron retires he will be the greatest cuz his numbers will be off the charts. To someone who knows basketball theres more to the game in stats and wins define greatness its a team game and how well you lead that team to win why do you think wilt only beat russell once and dont give me that russells supporting cast was better cop out wilt played with Nate Thurmond, Paul Arizin, Billy Cunningham, Tom Gola, Hal Greer, Jerry West and Elgin Baylor, who are all in the Hall of Fame, not to mention Chet Walker and Guy Rodgers, who could be for their battles and still couldnt win Russell was a great leader thats why his team always won unlike wilt he was a horrible teammate. You talk about the games he supposedly abused russell those games were blowouts so those were garbage buckets

  • yaboy20

    “We were forced to play against the Celtics 11 to 13 times during the regular season. And if you think that wasn’t enough, then we had another seven games against them in the playoffs, if it went seven games. So I had a chance to see William Felton Russell much more than I wanted to.” Wilt Chamberlain

    “If we played Boston four on four, without Russell, we probably would have won every series. The guy killed us. He’s the one who prevented us from acheiving true greatness.” Wilt
    Duh Russ spoke nice things about him they were good friends but he never sounded scared or like he couldnt beat him like Wilt did. Being a great leader/teammate goes into the GOAT status just as much as the stats do for me and thats one of the only reasons i cant put wilt in the discussion

  • yaboy20

    My only other reason is the eras the game was different there were a ton more possessions and alot more shots so it was easier to do what he did just like Oscars triple double. If u put Lebron or Dwight Howard in this era u cannot tell me that they dont do the same thing. Wilt was great in his era i am not disputing that but if he played now he would only get like 14 and 10 maybe pick up the bill simmons book and you just might change your mind on wilt. But thats why i think Kobe and Jordan are the greatest cuz their games translate to any era

  • The Philosopher

    So, that is one big man per team, right?
    Maybe two?
    Most were stiffs…
    The only thing Kobe has on Michael is the range on his shot.
    In Michael’s day, they moved the three point line in a little closer so Michael could continue his dominance.
    Again, that is the ONLY thing Kobe has on Michael. More range.
    But, that FURTHER illustrates how much better Michael is than Kobe.
    Kobe has never even been the Defensive Player of The Year.
    How can he be better than Michael on defense?
    And, once more, many of those big guys are stiffs.
    No offense, brethren.

  • The Philosopher

    And, I never said that Kobe cannot have a bad night.
    You said that Kobe would be hard for Michael to score on.
    I beg to differ…
    Michael has never let a non Hall Of Famer light him up for 60 points.
    Ever.
    Never, ever.

  • VisionofGreatness

    None of us truly know who the greatest was. All anyone has is their opinion. Some say Mike, some say Oscar, some say Bill Russell, some say Kareem, some say Wilt. There’s no definite answer. The greatest, most common held opinion is that Mike was the greatest. Poll past and present players and the most common answer we hear is MJ. That’s perhaps the most important opinion.

  • Blackphantom

    What idiot actually said Kobe was a better defender than Michael? Kobe’s great, but come on, sometimes my fellow Kobe fanatics go too far i admit

  • http://sdklff.com Jukai

    Interesting.
    In a pure BEST PLAYER EVER argument, you could argue that Wilt is up there or maybe even better than Jordan
    But greatest player ever?
    A few kinks:
    -Two championships compared to six. Yeah, circumstantial, but that’s a big factor
    -Jordan cared about getting stats over winning for about three or four years. Chamberlain did it throughout his entire career. When Chamberlain sacrificed his stats, they breezed through the playoffs. But when Chamberlain needed to lead the league in assists, they lost. Not saying Chamberlain could have beat the powerhouse celtics everytime, but 3-4 championships from Wilt certainly is feasible if he put his mind into winning everytime (and not to say he didn’t try to win in the playoffs, but I think his stat hunt hurt the jelling he had with his teammates and come playoff time, all those five point game seven loses may have come from that)
    -For about half of Wilt’s career, he was Karl Malone-ish in the clutch. He was Elvin Haye-ish in the clutch. He was downright Kevin Garnett-ish in the clutch!!!! He was afraid of being fouled and would take more turnaround jumpers than dunks. That changed as his mindset went from stats to winning, but that was a pretty big stain in his legacy.
    When I talk about centers, I always say Wilt was the BEST CENTER EVER because of his ludicrous skillset… but Kareem was the GREATEST because of his championships (more about luck) and his mindset, where he gave everything to the team.
    Plus, lord, I know 50-25 is f’ing insane, but Kareem’s 28-17-5-2-4.1 in a league with goaltending and three second rules… is RIDICULOUS!!!

  • http://sdklff.com Jukai

    Also, I get the Dwight Howard thing, Howard would have been pretty dominant… but Wilt was faster, stronger, taller, and had more range…. sooooo?
    The only thing Dwight Howard has is mobility (not faster in a sprint but probably faster with the ball) and MAYBE leaping… but even the leaping thing is in doubt.
    And it’s not like Howard has any post moves.
    So why would Howard do the same thing as Chamberlain if he’s pretty much worse in every way?

  • http://sdklff.com Jukai

    So…
    Chamberlain is STRONGER than Howard (Chamberlain dislocated a disk in Gus Johnson’s back by blocking Gus straight on… and Gus Johnson was a brickhouse of a man)
    Chamberlain is FASTER than Howard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paex9-VxPbA&feature=related)
    He had more RANGE than Howard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d7jRhaSgBA)
    Chamberlain was taller (7’1-7’2 compared to 6’10)
    Hell, it’s entire possible Chamberlain JUMPED HIGHER than Howard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=849_WdqJ8o8 …. look at some of the pauses in the middle… he’s blocking shots that go up towards the top of the square… and that is when he was in his 30s! Good christ!)
    But Howard could average 50-25 back in the day?
    Good Christ… Howard can’t even pass out of a double team today. What is he going to do when he’s dealing with triple teams?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Wilt Chamberlain was an olympic high jumper. He played a season where he averaged 48.6MPG. He led the league in assists because people said he couldn’t pass. Dwight can’t score more then 20PPG on a consistent basis. That comparison is totally bogus.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    that’s like comparing tyronn lue and allen iverson because they looked similar. (ok its not that abstract but its crazy – wilt is considered by many to be the best basketball player ever – top 5 all time at worst)

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Great stuff in here, esp on wilt…………. … .. Its pretty clear tyreke evans will be the best player ever. Its not even up for debate. If you dont think so, you hate the special olympics, sunshine, rainbows, cute babies, beyonce, kim kardashianaina, beer, pizza, and yo momma. Tyreke will be the best player ever, LIBRARY IT!!!!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    LIBRARY IT!! lol that’s the best isht i’ve ever read

  • yaboy20

    My grandad was a coach and has all of the old games on film even some of wilts sixers days do you understand me when i say there was no goaltending from wat i saw half of his points were redirecting shots into the basket and there were SO MANY more possessions they had about 140 per game compared to about 95 now so his stats were inflated with the pace of the game…. Ok dwight was an awful example i will admit that but shaq in his prime would use that era as a toothpick

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Joe, thanks for the list!
    And you didn’t even have to mention some of the undersized center greats like Wes Unseld, or the great power-forwards like Elvin Hayes who were insane at rebounding too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000580635564 Bryan

    Well if even I , a die hard Knick fan, can accept this dude as the GOAT then anyone can.

  • The Philosopher

    Jordan can’t handle Earvin on the blocks.
    It has been proven.
    Earvin exposed Michael in The 91′ Finals as not being The Greatest Of All Times. Scottie saved Michael’s ENTIRE Legacy in that Finals showdown.
    Earvin Johnson was masterfully guiding that team by his lonesome against Michael and Scottie, and while doing so, cementing his position as… The G.O.A.T.
    And, we’ve still to this day have never witnessed the kind of performance in a Finals clinching game that Earvin put on that night in Philadelphia.
    The greatest performance in NBA History. A rookie 6’9″ point guard manning all 5 positions at a Hall Of Fame level for the Ring.
    Never again.

  • KB8toSG8

    @Blackphantom……in no way did I mean that KB was a better defender than MJ. I was just saying that you can’t negate Wilt’s stats just because his era was (according to many) a weak one compared to the 80s and 90s (BS) Maybe my example was a bit misleading. @Philosopher….Arenas back in 06, before his injuries took over, was killing almost everyone!!! Sure, he’s no HOF, but he ain’t Pooh Richardson. He was an offensive nightmare. And many would testify to that. Tell me how many guys in the 90s that MJ defended had such scoring prowess that Arenas had. He has a great jumpshot, is great at catch and pop, is devilishly quick, has great handles and can drive relentlessly.@yaboy……Really? All I care about is stats? Tell me what you exactly want Wilt to do to be called the Greatest ever?? You want him to score 100 every game?!!?! Regarding those quotes, Wilt and Russell were great friends and even greater rivals. Hence, I took both the stats AND Russell’s quotes to back my argument. Not just stats. Russell was a great defender. Arguably the best post presence on the defensive end. Don’t you think that without him, Wilt could just always go and score? Height and physical presence cannot be taught to a player. Its pretty obivous that Wilt worked harder to get his points while playing against Russell. If you look closely enough, you’d realize that I continuously praised Russell’s defense in my other posts. I’m just saying that even with Russell guarding him, Wilt got high scoring and high rebounding games. WITH RUSSELL. Wilt + 4 other players could defeat 4 HOFs + any other center other than Russell. That just shows you how dominant he was.

  • KB8toSG8

    @Philosopher……Wilt would demolish Magic one on one. No offence, but Magic was an average defender and an awesome playmaker. In order for Magic to play to his full potential, he needs to have team-mates unlike Wilt who could defend, had great lateral quickness, has the height advantage and a ridiculous scoring ability from the post. One on one, Wilt could shut down Magic. 5 on 5, Wilt would have a hard time stopping Magic passing. It was amazing that Magic could take over like that in his rookie season. But Wilt’s records simply are unmatched.

  • KB8toSG8

    Thrust into the villain role by virtue of his size and the results of his frequent clashes with the smaller, more team-oriented Bill Russell, Chamberlain frequently was judged more on what he didn’t accomplish than on the many things he did. “They see me score 75 points in a game and instead of saying, ‘Great game,’ they wonder why I don’t get 75 every night,” he once grumbled. His one NBA championship with Philadelphia in 1966-67 — at 68-13, another one of the all-time great teams — seemed to count less somehow than West’s or Baylor’s none. Chamberlain’s size, strength and personality always just demanded more. This is the true reason why Wilt was never given his due. He spoilt the fans so much that they always expected him to get 70 points, 40 rebs, 20 blks, 10 assists and all that ish. Kinda like why these days Kobe’s consistently awesome shots don’t garner the praise from the commentators or analysts because he did that almost every game, unlike LeBron, Melo and a few other all-stars over whom commentators and analysts go ga-ga after a brilliant move. (Note: By no means is Kobe on the same level as Wilt before everyone starts breathing down my back. :D )

  • KB8toSG8

    @yaboy…..you think LeBron and Howard would do the same in Wilt’s era? I have a few quotes from both of them when they were played very physically. Trust me, they WHINED to no end. Complaining, whining…repeat that 2-3 times. Wilt’s era was VERY physical. Hell, they could just hit him on the head while shooting continuously on every attempt (which would get Wilt free-throws). Infact, what makes Wilt’s stats so amazing is that he did it all while missing the most no.of free throws in LEAGUE history. Think how dominant he would’ve been if he had….say 70% free throw shooting avg.

  • http://www.oprah.com Doyouwantmore

    I was one of those kids that were disillusioned when I grew up and realized that the guy from ‘Pro Stars’ was actually a regular dude with regular problems. (And mo’ money!) But he’s still the best for sure. He’s the best because a man’s greatness is ultimately a collaboration between himself and his Creator. Jordan performed at a peak level in moments and contexts that ring with story and authorship.

  • The Philosopher

    @KB8toSG8:
    Joe Dumars.
    Clyde Drexler.
    Reggie Miller.
    Mitch Richmond.
    Steve Smith.
    And, Magic’s passing out of the blocks would neutralize many things.
    Not all, but many.
    Magic can score on Wilt.
    He will not give him 35, but he would get double digits. He would have Wilt in foul trouble chasing him everywhere.
    He’s 85% for his career at the line.

  • Alek

    great article, totally agree!

  • smooth

    ok micheal jordan is the best ive heard that since i was born every basketball magazine ive read it had “micheal jordan is the best” every where. micheal is the greatest but not the best and i get of whos better mj or kb24 or lbj first of all both of them doesnt know how to win a championship by themselfs. So quit talking about micheal jordan all the time every body knows hes the greatest but not the best

  • smooth

    magic is the greatest

  • KB8toSG8

    @The Philosopher

    Really? Ritchmond? As much as I used to love him….he’s as complete as Arenas? Smith? Clyde…you got a point there. Reggie? He’s a great 3pt shooter or should I say a great pure shooter. He doesn’t have the quickness or the handles Arenas has. No offence to him though. Magic might score only a few points. Definitely not more than 15. I’d bet anything over that. Wilt would get into foul trouble CHASING him? I think people really underestimate Wilt’s athleticism. I think a video was posted here about Wilt’s speed. He can easily hang on with Magic. Foul trouble, I’m not quite sure. Magic wasn’t the best perimeter shooter out there and with Wilt’s height, it’d be tough for Magic. Also, with Wilt guarding him, he wouldn’t have anything from the paint. Nothing. Magic wouldn’t get many rebounds at all. Hell, I’d be surprised if he could get atleast 5 with Wilt over there. His assist numbers would continue to remain same. It’d depend on Wilt’s teammates to defend the others. If 5-on-5, I’d first definitely want to see Wilt’s teammates before I talk about the effect Magic would have on the game provided he plays Center. And let’s not forget, Wilt proved that he too could pass the rock effectively. I repeat, if 1-on-1, Magic would have ZERO chance. Zero. If 5-on-5, it’d depend on the teammates.

  • KB8toSG8

    Also, Wilt would also have Magic in foul trouble just as easily if he backs Magic into the post. And dare I say, Magic would be the one out of the game more quicker since Magic ain’t such a great defender. Hell, is it difficult for a guy to kill another player who is roughly the same height as the old previous centers and had avg/above average defense??? Come on, we’re talking about a guy who scored 50pts for the ENTIRE season over guys the height of Magic. And you’re telling me Wilt would be in foul trouble?!? And Wilt has more stamina than Magic as well.

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