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Friday, August 8th, 2008 at 10:17 pm  |  35 responses

Links: Josh Smith To…Atlanta!

by Lang Whitaker

Just got word that the Hawks are matching the Grizz offer sheet to Josh Smith. So that didn’t last long.

“Tonight, the Hawks organization received an offer sheet from the Memphis Grizzlies for Josh Smith,” said a statement from Hawks GM Rick Sund. “We are happy to announce that we will match their offer sheet.  Ownership, management and the team are happy to have Josh return as a member of the Hawks. We look forward to training camp in October and we will continue to look at additional opportunities to improve our roster.”

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  • kevbo

    58 mil is a steal to keep josh

  • Nad

    Good move, this guy is the key to their success!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Pretty sh*tty move by the hawks. Josh wont be happy unless that was what was agreed upon by him and management. They should’ve started negotiatons and been agressive early. Hawks saved money but didnt help save face with Josh and other free-agents if they were only going to match originally. Being cheap wont help lure free agents and thats what the hawks are projecting by not being agressive and straight up. Smart but stingy. At least hawks fans will be happy with the outcome, not necessarily the process.

  • i am the walrus

    they need him
    good move

  • RAINMAN-0

    Gilbert Arenas needs a cover!!!

  • RAINMAN-0

    and to the point…i’m happy josh smith is staying in atlanta, I’m a Wizards fan, but I’ve always liked Josh Smith, but I hate the Grizzlies. If he went to the grizzlies i would never buy his jersey haha.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    I hope he says get f*cked and signs a one-year tender.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Phew, that Smithed up Grizzly roster seemed almost too real.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Short-lived were the (day)dreams of Smith/Rudy Gay/O.J. Mayo trifecta in Memphis, but it looks like the Grizzlies have their sights set on more high-profile free agents a year or two down the line. Ha!

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    im with russ. the atlien got screwed. i think lang is right, he will end up all time blocks leader

  • http://www.sprint.com/sero Dma

    I hope Josh Smith forces Atlanta to trade him next year somehow when he can be eligible to be traded. He deserves better than The Spirit.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    I guess since he signed the offer sheet he can’t sign a one-year deal now, right?

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    Thank you Atlanta Spirit Group for not being complete idiots.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP aka D.Polo

    Not good for one of your star players to have beef with the head coach. But I guess as long as they can co-exist(which I still don’t think is possible) then maybe the hawks can make some noise. But everyone gets a flukely in their lifetimes and hawks fans, you should have enjoyed it last year.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    I’m thinking there’s pretty much no way he stays in Atlanta for the duration of the contract, but then again I’m a glass-totally-empty-and-shattered kind of guy.

  • tinchek

    smith to olympiakos!!!!!

  • floe

    f that! why shouldn’t teams let the market dictate the price? this is a business not a prom date.

    a guy like josh smith isn’t a max player yet but could potentially be in 2 years. so yeah if he really wants let him take a short term contract minus the security.

    also, i dont think atlanta could keep its core group of youth together without playing smart on the negotiations table. i think its a great move on their part. lang oughta be ecstatic.

  • Myung Lee

    The thing that always amuses me is that Josh Smith gets so much love from fans of other teams. If you look at just his highlights and his stat line, he’s a heck of a player and I guess if he played on the Warriors or Bucks, I’d probably be a fan of his too. But if you watch him every single game (and I get the feeling that only about 4 or 5 regulars of SLAMonline, including Lang and myself, do)… for every Hawks fan who likes Josh Smith, you’ll find one who wishes he played elsewhere. I’m NOT upset that we matched. We got him for less than Emeka, Luol, and Bogut got, which, by that comparison, is a steal. Although I’ve stated for over 2 years on this site that I’m not a fan of his, I know it was better for us to match than to lose him to Memphis and get nothing in return. And because I always cheer for the name on the front of the uniform and not the back, I will still get behind Josh Smith (especially since he’s ours for possibly the next 5 years), just like I got behind Laettner, Koncak, Adam Keefe, Speedy Claxton, and Shelden Williams (other Hawks I didn’t necessarily like but supported, as long as they were Hawks).

    However, Josh Smith is not a superstar. He is a freakish athlete who puts up big numbers from time to time.

  • Myung

    I have many friends who are hardcore Hawks fans, and for every person who likes him as a Hawk, there’s one who wishes we could’ve sent him packing in a sign and trade (myself included)… To me, the bigger news this summer was us losing Josh Childress (one of the best offensive rebounders in the NBA and a guy who played his 6th man role to perfection), not us matching Memphis last night … I will always root for the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back. I like Al Horford, Joe Johnson, and Marvin Williams. I don’t like Josh Smith and Speedy Claxton. But regardless of if I like the player or not, whoever’s on the floor for us, I’m rooting for them. As much as I’m not a friend, I WILL get behind #5 because he’s a key piece to our future, now that we’ve signed him for the foreseeable future.

  • t

    No rainman Brandon Jennings needs a cover AND a story

  • Myung

    and by “friend” (at the end), i meant “fan” (sorry). few more thoughts. I’ve noticed a lot of non-Hawks fans are big fans of his. I don’t blame you guys. If he played on the Bucks or Warriors or Sonics, I’d probably say, “Man, this guy is awesome.” Then again, if he played on those teams, I probably would’ve only seen him on Sportscenter and on national TV about 2 or 3 times in the past few years. His stats are pretty, but if you watch him game in and game out, he leaves a lot to be desired. His athleticism is other worldly, but his jumper and passing decisions leave a lot to be desired. And to the person up there who said he’s the key to our success, I disagree. I DO agree that he is A key… but Josh Smith is not THE key.

  • http://slamonline.com whitechocolate

    in other news…tony parker is nba live 09 cover athlete…..BOOOOOOOOO

  • http://www.nba.com iLL wiLL

    The Atlanta Spirit ownership group does not deserve Josh Smith.

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    Just to provide a counter point: as a hardcore lifelong Hawks fan myself, I couldn’t possibly disagree more completely and entirely with Myung. Josh Smith’s poor decisions are mostly the result of having an idiot coach who doesn’t know how to use him properly. If he was used in a way that maximized his talents you would see his passing ability a lot better, and he wouldn’t be put in nearly as many positions where he had to use his weak jumper. Yeah losing Childress sucks, especially the WAY we lost him, but he is somewhat replaceable. You simply cannot replace all the contributions Josh Smith makes with one player. It’s not possible.

  • -Ardi

    I think it’s great to see ATL respond to the offer sheet so quickly – it shows that they wanted him all along. BUT, I do think they need a shake up in the coaching staff as ‘what’ posted before me. Because not only is J-Smoove a freak of nature athletically, he plays GREAT D, and has serious potential to be an All-Star and a MVP/DP award winner.
    ATL still has a great starting 5, it’s their depth off the bench that’s a concern – losing Childress.

  • Myung Lee

    Hey, What. I always respect what you have to say, and there aren’t too many Hawks fans out there so you I got no beef. I know I’m in the minority, at least on this site, when it comes to #5. I know you, Coco, and Lang are in Josh Smith’s corner, and that’s fine. I’ve been writing on these pages, ever since they allowed comments, that I’ve hated having Mike Woodson as our coach. I think that’s something we ALL agree on. But how does his coaching have to do with Josh’s poor decision making. There’s a lot of autonomy given to most NBA players. When Josh Smith is handling the rock on a fast break (when it should be in the hands of a point guard) or waves off a screen and shoots an ill-advised 20 footer, is that really Mike Woodson’s fault? I think Woodson is a poor motivator, has little (if any) offensive know-how, and is terrible with his substitution patterns. But as far as Josh goes, what is he supposed to do with him? I think Josh’s skills are best utilized when he’s running from the left side on a fast break (sans ball), as a weak side help defender, as a very solid rebounder.

  • Myung Lee

    If we lost Josh Smith (which we didn’t of course), we’d lose his intensity (which I actually like), his athleticism, his shotblocking, and his rebounding. In losing Childress, we lost a team-first guy, one of the most solid offensive rebounders in the league (I can’t count how many big possession-saving boards he made last season), and a versatile guy who had a much more refined offensive repetoire than Josh Smith. Look, I’m not mad that we re-signed him. For the price, it was a good re-signing, no matter how I feel about him as a ball player. I just think he’s not the guy that everything thinks he is (future All Star?). He’s a freakishly good athlete who happens to have some solid ball skills. If I’m wrong for thinking he has a low basketball IQ, then I’ll continue to say it and get blasted by everyone else on these boards and be content in my wrong…ness.

  • T.J

    Yes! please give him JJ or Mike B a cover!

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    Hey Myung nothing personal dude, my fault if I gave the wrong impression haha. I compare Josh to Mike Vick sometimes, because I think both were/are really unique talents that proved too big a challenge to their respective coaches. Woody’s lack of an offensive system really hurts Josh a lot. I think Josh is capable to an extent of doing everything on the floor, but in four years he has never been told by Woody “Here’s your role — here’s what you gotta do when you’re on the floor — focus on that and improve it.” So although he’s improved in every area somewhat since he came in the league, he hasn’t really had a chance to become really consistent at any given thing. So when he tries to do things like handle the ball on the fast break and thread the needle passes too often he ends up doing something that looks stupid. I don’t think he has a low +basketball+ IQ — I think he doesn’t really know what he’s best at, and Woody hasn’t made it clear to him either. So if I’m gonna fault him for something, it’s not figuring out what he’s best at and sticking to it.

  • j-smoov 5

    nice :D josh smith doms! he does need a cover on slam here! he’s been wanted by the lakers, knicks, grizzlies, and who knows who else! JOSH SMITH DOMINATES!!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    As far as Childress, don’t get me wrong, I was pi$$ed when we lost him. I agree with most of what you said about him — he’s a good bench guy, great offensive rebounder, team first guy. I don’t think he’s more refined offensively than Smith though — I haven’t really seen him create his own shot on a consistent basis ever. Josh Smith may look ugly when he creates his own shot sometimes — he’s got his own improvement to do in that area — but you can give him the ball and tell him to create his own shot and he can do it. I’ve never really seen Childress being used that way (maybe he can do it, but even in college he was never a big time scorer). And like I said earlier if Smith had a defined role in the offense he would probably do that much more efficiently. That’s really the reason I put most of the blame on Woody. A player can develop basketball IQ much easier if he has a certain set of skills he can focus on and improve for the role he is required to fill, rather than just going out there and doing whatever the situation calls for. And in Josh Smith’s case, being a prep-to-pros guy, that probably makes an even bigger difference than it did for Childress or Marvin.

  • Myung Lee

    All great points, What. Nothing much for me counter with.

  • Tyler

    Thats cool he is staying, the hawks are on the rise!

  • Obama

    yeah! now go sign AI too! haha

  • Kevin K

    - Myung Lee; Is that you hyung?? haha wassup.
    - Response to what; your point basically shows what an awesome coach mike woodson is for fully utilizing jsmoove’s potential.
    Childress is not a superstar by any means but he is the perfect role player that all the former NBA championships had (Posey, Prince, Ron Harper, Robert Horry) that plays solid D, low TOs, hits his open 3s, and compliments the team in every possible way. I rather have JChild than Marvin… at least we have Jsmoove for next 5 years unless he gets traded… I don’t see the hawks making the playoff this year.

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