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Tuesday, August 24th, 2010 at 10:40 am  |  99 responses

For Old Time’s Sake: Mark Price

This boy could flat out SHOOT THE BASKETBALL. Standing barely 6-feet tall, his ability to score was mind blowing. A great passer, fearless competitor, and lights-out 3-point shooter, Price will forever be knows as one of Cleveland and Georgia Tech’s best. He was a 4x NBA All-Star and 2x 3-Point Contest Champion in 93-94. Shout out to KBlaze for the mix.

-Schneezy

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  • larrylegend

    his brother brent shoot the light outs too!

  • The Philosopher

    The greatest pure shooting point guard in the NBA Historical Annals.
    Brilliant video.

  • http://slamonline.com Krishan

    Oh god, I don’t mean to be racist, but mark price + that music just officially made this the whitest video on youtube.

  • Ricochet

    Awesome player, fast, accurate,,tough as nails, huge heart, flair AND efficiency. By the way, I urge everybody to check out all the other K-Blaze mixes. The Laimbeer one is awesome. This K-Blaze dude has a knack to find the right music that fits the player and edits the whole thing superbly.

  • The Philosopher

    I’d take Price over Billups in a heartbeat, too.

  • Ricochet

    corr: a knack FOR finding..**sighs and bows head in shame**. Oh and thanks Schneezy for the dope trips down memory lane. Brilliant selection, so far!

  • Kris

    Nice!

  • http://slamonline.com Lang Whitaker

    Mark Price mixtape videos on Youtube are like bumping into Martha Stewart at a Freddie Gibbs show.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Talk about unathletic, now Mark Price maximized his athletic ability for real. And if he was playing in today’s softer, gentler NBA dude would be All-NBA and a MVP candidate.

  • Boing Dynasty

    Assuming Freddie Gibbs actually has shows…

  • Boing Dynasty

    I hear you AP, but MVP candidate is a reach.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    By far the player I used the most in NBA Live ’95.

  • Boing Dynasty

    Thats litteraly the first time ive ever seen a Youtube highlight video that included clips of the player feeding the post. Im not sure how the feel about it.

  • arjae828

    ^^ steve nash has more mvp’s than shaq. price would def be an mvp candidate.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    The best Cavalier of all time?

  • http://itsahardwoodlife.blogspot.com omphalos

    co-sign Krishan. Love seeing pure shooters like this guy.

  • IknowImRight

    I wouldv’e smacked his sh*t out the park!

  • IknowImRight

    I would’ve smacked his Sh _ t out the park!

  • http://www.boogiewilliams.com Boing Dynasty

    You cant smack his sh!t out the park, when your at the park and hes in an NBA arena. Then again, you did say it twice and you used exclamation points, so who knows…

  • IknowImRight

    notice the capital S on the second one, its cause I’m so serious…So Serious!!!

  • http://slamonline.com GotHandles?

    @ Boing…. HAHAHAHA, that’s some funny isht. @ IknowImRight…Price would spin you in circles and smoke you’re a$$. That high glass was his bread and butter. He adapted to 7 footers and got in the lane. are you 7 feet?

  • JTaylor21

    Damn the Philosopher I got love for ya but WTF? Price over Billups, HA great joke Philo. Also if Steve Nash can win 2 f*cking MVPs doing the same ish Price did why doesn’t Price have an MVP? I tell you why because Nash or Price have NO business winning MVPs.

  • IknowImRight

    No I’m not 7 feet but I have mastered the smack your sh-t out of the park technique… smoke my ass??? high glass??? put the pipe down young fella. Everything will be ok. you can’t meet me at stanley quarter park right now… google it

  • http://www.laumol.nl/weblog Laumol

    Get him a bumping rap mixtape too!

  • IknowImRight

    philosopher is the only person on this thing that sounds like he knows what the hell hes talkin bout

  • Mr. Robinson

    AAAWWWW SSSHHHHHEEEEIITTTT!!!

  • Mr. Robinson

    AAAWWWWW SSSSHHHHEEEEEEIIIITTT!!!!!

  • Mr. Robinson

    my bad about the double post

  • IknowImRight

    I mean come on cause I’d smack Prices ball out the park but i’d just smack Billups

  • http://aol.com Run’N'Gun219

    He was the best a splitting the double team. And his pull up j was just so wet. He was hand down my favorite white player. Price had a lil swagg to him>

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Boing Dynasty
    Do you think Mark Price is significantly less talented and effective than Steve Nash?
    If you don’t, then he could get an MVP, right?

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/ Diesel

    Damn how did we ever watch sports not in HD.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    That spin move he pulled off on that first play was tight. I thought he was a good shooter and passer, but never knew he had that kind of handles. The way he splits double teams reminds me a lot of DWade.

  • Tommy Patron

    I must insist that Price did not have below average athleticism. He was quicker and faster than Nash, just tiny.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Tommy
    I don’t see it.

  • Robb

    what a player he was

  • http://www.boogiewilliams.com Boing Dynasty

    AP, i dont think Nash deserved either of those MVPs definetly not both. So in that sense Price could conceivably content for an undeserved MVP award, true.

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    I’m on phone duty today. Lang’s comment made me laugh out loud.

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    Uhm, I would like to raise my hand and say Price was significantly less talented and effective than Steve Nash. But I am a Nash slurper.
    I mean, I don’t think Nash is a significantly worse shooter than Price, but I think Nash is a significantly better passer and ball handler and slasher and leader.
    But I am a Nash slurper.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    I would take Price and Nash over Billups anyday, But Price was better than Nash and Billups. Great player. BOOK IT!!!

  • http://google c_cantrell

    price better than nash? no.. price better than billups? no..

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    The Seed saying Price > Nash > Billups pretty much means that in reality, Nash > Billups > Price.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    ^jukai..
    i like your reasoning lol

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I don’t think Nash is signficantly better, and neither do Nash’s stats.
    But, I do think he’s better. He has more to work with as far as size and athleticism, and the rules do benefit what he’s doing.
    Remember, Price was putting up those numbers in a much slower offense, in a league with tougher defense, and despite his physical limitations.
    And, my larger point was that if Price did what he did back then in today’s NBA, he would likely be an MVP candidate.
    Agree or disagree?

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Nash is not better than Price, those saying that are forgetting Nash years in Dallas, he was down right average/good. He was not MVP candidate or even seen as the second best player on the team. Dirk and Finley were seen as the better players. Nash had a good three year run in Phx, now he is all of a sudden better than most point guards. NOO!!. Price would put up better numbers in the Phx offense today. I once put up Nash stats for his NBA career up and it was just sad, that he has done nothing in this league except lead a Offense that never won a title, but now is a Hall of Fame guard. LOL!!. Go to wikipedia and look at his stats and awards. Its sad and Price is a better player than Billups, If you can’t see that then the suppose Big Shot, is living off that one great year in your mind. Price played great many seasons not three to four like Billups. BOOK IT!!

  • Fat Lever

    Never realized it, but Mark Price reminds me of the host from Double Dare. I think his name was Mark something too.

  • WolfNast

    Oklahoma Represent!!!!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Seed
    Nash was on several all-star teams in dalls, and regularly averaged like 17 and 7 or so. He had some down years, but he put up solid stats in Dallas.
    No, he wasn’t an MVP, and I don’t think he deserved the ones he got, but it’s dishonest to pretend he was a bum.
    When you look at the numbers, and adjust for Phoenix’s pace and style, I think Price versus Nash is a legit debate, to be honest.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Great stuff yet again, Schneezy. And MAD props to K-Blaze, who makes some of the dopest mixes out there, for so many fantastic players. You would seriously be covered for an entire year just running K-Blaze mixes of retired players from all eras every day.

  • http://slamonline.com Schneezy

    @Teddy-the-Bear… appreciate the love and yeah, his mixes are dope. Music can be suspect at times but still great nonetheless.

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    Allenp: What are we talking about MVP Candidate… top-10? Maybe. The dude was slower than Nash, and he played in a far slower era of basketball. I’m sure he could run with a team like the Suns, but anywhere near as good as Nash did to bring him to an MVP level? I’m not sure I agree.
    I will admit I don’t think very highly of Price. I think that Cleveland team, with the talent it had, constantly underachieved. Some people really like Price though, so maybe I should relook at him.
    Fat Lever: Mark Summers.

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    I mean, I already know the answer, but could it be Nash’s stats in Dallas were lower not just because of pace and style, but because the team ran through Dirk and Nash was secondary?
    I think Price was put in a great situation in Cleveland, he was the perfect half-court point guard, spacing the floor, creating space with his lag step and that surprising change in direction, tossing it to the post, great at the pick-and-roll… I dunno how he’d do in that fast run-and-gun offense.
    But yeah, I’ll start rewatching some old Price game footage, see if I feel differently. A lot of what I remember was his team getting clowned by the Bulls so that certainly can’t help.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The team should have been better, we agree.
    But, I don’t think it was Price’s fault.
    And just because basketball was slower, doesn’t mean Price couldn’t play fast.
    Besides, Nash in Dallas played a slower brand of ball then in Phoenix, and look at his numbers compared to Price.
    No handchecking, more free throws, more shots. I like Price’s chances.

  • total scrotal implosion

    White men cant jump

  • Tommy Patron

    Allenp-I am remembering Price from all the games the Cavs played against our Bulls. The change of pace, the pull-ups. He frequently left his man totally in the dust, and could easily split pick and rolls. Maybe I am experiencing revisionist history, but I don’t think so. Plus, I’m a Chicagoan, I naturally didn’t like him or anyone on the Cavs (with the exception of Larry Nance).

  • http://fdsjklf.com Jukai

    Allenp: So where would you put Price in the panteon of point guards? I wont get angry if you put him above Billups or Nash.
    Honestly, in my opinion, I could think of 15-20 pgs I’d rather have over Price. So maybe, from what people are saying, I’m underrating Price. I’ll give him another look.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    AllenP
    Nash is overrated his career avearge is not 17 and 7 its 15 and 8. In Nash seven years in Dallas he only went to 2 All Star games, he did not go every year. People forget he was actually blamed for his poor play sometimes in the playoffs. With Phx he went to 5 All Star games. He was only NBA 1st team 3 times in his entire career. He only led league in assists per game 4 times out of his entire career. His whole sorry career is built out of winning those two MVPs, one was Shaq the other was Kobe. Price would murder in a fast pace system, where he could do anything. People forget Nash has a high turnover rate. He’s played 14 or 15 years in the league and to me only played well for three seasons out of it. The fake two MVP years and the year after the second fake MVP award. Besides that he is just a reliable point guard like Andre Miller. TRUTH HURTS!!!

  • total scrotal implosion

    Seed is pretty right about nash. 05 was shaq or timmys mvp. 06 was dirk or timmys. Not kobe, you dont get mvp if the team is a 6 seed(i think thats what they were)

  • The Philosopher

    Price is a top 40 point guard all time.

  • http://fdsjklf.com Jukai

    Damn Philosopher. He’s way better than THAT.
    Plus, I’ll say it again, these are how the MVP voting should have played out: 05–> Shaq, 06—> Kobe, 07—> Nash, 08—> Chris Paul.
    Everything would be right in the world if it just played out like that.

  • The Philosopher

    I say top 40 because one, you would be suprised…
    Although he is better than top 40, though.
    Two, I want to stay on the safe side with this one.

  • JTaylor21

    There must be a heaven because the seed FINALLY said something that’s reasonable. NASH has absolutely NO business winning those two MVPs. Dude has NEVER made it to the FINALS despite playing on two of the most loaded teams in the past decade and with TWO of the best PFs of this generation. Dude is a fake fabrication of great point guards, just compare his numbers to other all-time great points and it’s downright laughable. He’s quite possibly the MOST overrated player in any sport.

  • Jacob (from Australia)

    It’s funny watching Cavaliers videos where they only have 2 jerseys.

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    They don’t make em like Mark anymore.

  • The Philosopher

    Steve Nash is an all timer.
    Period.

  • http://www.twitter.com/gerardhimself Gerard Himself

    Nash is the most overrated player in any sport? I don’t type this a lot but “lol!”
    Anyway, love the Mark Price video. One of the best shooters ever. Great scorer.

  • http://www.twitter.com/gerardhimself Gerard Himself

    really JTaylor, you’re acting like Nash is a bum or something.

  • JTaylor21

    Damn when did I ever say that Nash was a bum. Dude is obviously going to the hall of fame. All I’m saying is that he shouldn’t have won 2 MVPs. Guys like Shaq/Kobe have 2 between each other, while guys like JKidd/CP/DWill have all had better seasons than Nash and they don’t have MVP awards. It just points to the fact that Nash’s supposedly great MVP seasons were overrated.

  • hammer

    @jtaylor 12:07 comment. The reason price don’t got an mvp is cuz of the comp he had 2 compete w/back then. How the hell was he gonna win an mvp w/jordan,ewing,olajuwon,robinson,miller,barkley,stockton,malone,payton,shaq,drexler,mullin,pippen,kemp(did I leave any1 off the list?)around back then huh? Not sayin he would win an mvp n 2days nba,but after kobe and lebron,he would have a legitimate shot

  • The Philosopher

    And, just to put it out there, there are many point guards who are left out of general conversation when discussing the great point guards of the game.
    There are also other point guards who do not get the recognition because of various reasons. Many of them were better point guards than many that play today.
    Earl Monroe.
    All the way down to Johnny Dawkins.
    Vern Fleming.
    Even Nate Mcmillan.
    Alvin Robertson.
    Johnny Moore.
    Kevin Porter.
    Calvin Murphy.
    Scott Skiles.

  • hammer

    Use 2 hate price cuz he was a tough lil player. I would cringe whenever my bulls had 2 face the cavs especially @ richfield colosium. Those cavs fans were loud and fully supported that team. With the way the nba was physical back then,its even more a wonder how price mastered splitting the double team. Miss players like mark.

  • hammer

    I think its safe 2 add avery johnson 2 the philosophers list as well. High iq point guard as well as his leadership skills were invaluable. Stats weren’t eye-popping,but still a solid pg. Any 1 who saw him play would agree

  • http://sfjdkldsfl.com Jukai

    I think it’s funny that the same people who are giving Price all the benefit of the doubt in the world that he could play MVP-like in a fast pace atmosphere… are the same people who hate on Billups despite the fact that Billups played at such a high level on a system slower than the system that Price was on.
    Love it.

  • The Philosopher

    Randy Smith is another point guard who is better than Chauncey Billups.

  • http://sfjdkldsfl.com Jukai

    You don’t even know who Randy Smith is…

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Jukai – Isn’t that just Joe Smith’s “bedroom” nick-name??

  • http://slamonline.com Dave.

    Mark Price was 8th in MVP votes in ’93, 7th in ’92, and his teammate Brad Daugherty was taking some of his votes.
    He played in the same division as the Bulls, the Pistons, the Pacers so was defended night in, night out by Joe Dumars, Michael Jordan and Reggie Miller. He played at PG in a league opposite Stockton, Magic Johnson, Isaiah Thomas, Tim Hardaway etc.

  • http://slamonline.com Dave.

    The other thing separating him from Steve Nash was his ability to play defence. Any defence.
    Price over Nash. Thanks for watching.

  • Ronald

    The whole perimeter play has gone soft argument doesn’t really stand against players such as Nash because he’s not a player that looks for FT’s as part of his game. Throughout his career (where he got decent minutes) Nash averaged at most 4FTA a game (one season) and his career avg is at around 2.8 FTA a game. Some people might say it’s the result of lack of forays into the paint (but I think most of us know that Nash does do most of his damage inside the paint and teams are forced to make gameplans to prevent him from driving into the paint). The whole notion that Nash is a by product of softer rules is a fallacy. Unlike, players such as Billups who routinely use the same rules to his advantage (i.e falling on threes and initiating contact ala Paul Pierce and Durant – imho the new rules benefit wing players more than traditional pass first PG’s) so, if anything Billups is more of a by product of the new rules than Nash. And @TheSeed: the stats you quoted include stats where Nash wasn’t the primary PG as he only was a routine starter after the year 2000. So, 17/7 for his Dallas career is a good sample for his Dallas Career.

  • http://sfjdkldsfl.com Jukai

    ^^^
    Will have to add this to my “Nash defense” bag of tricks

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    I like how Seed’s argument against Nash is that he *only* led the league in assists four times…

  • Ronald

    Also in re: Nash benefiting from pace of the Suns. I don’t have any usage rates on hand but again despite the fact that the Suns played/play at a higher pace (that’s obvious enough and there are stats to back that up). Nash didn’t benefit from it. The argument is that the Suns play @ a high tempo therefore there are more possessions and therefore more shots per game. Using his time in Dallas and Suns as an example his stats are indeed lower during his years in Dallas. But, his FGA is actually very similar throughout his time in Dallas and Suns. In, actual fact the biggest improvement from Nash during the Suns is his fg% where he was only around 47% during his Dallas stint and shot 50%+ during his time with the Suns. Some might attribute this to greater layup opportunities due to the fast break style of the system but the increase of fg% is actually due to his better 3pg%. So, instead of the style of the Suns attributing to Nash’s better stats, it is more likely that Nash simply improved his shooting or maybe his shot selection.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Todd Spehr

    The explanations for Nash’s success and exaggerations of his flaws are tiresome and even ignorant. It’s often said that Nash is a bad defender, as if he cares not to play it – he’s not Amare. Nash isn’t quick, he’s physically not equipped to be even a good defender, yet while he’s poor at containing dribble penetration, he’s always among the league leaders in charges taken. He does what he can. Those who disregard his MVPs and his numbers in the face of seizing the rule changes conveniently overlook the talent and work ethic that allowed him to be great. RE he and Price, both great players, both top 15 PGs. Longevity-wise, he far exceeds Price: Nash was all-NBA second team at 35, Price was part-time starter by 31 and out of the league at 33. Also, for as renowned a shooter as Price was, Nash has four 50-40-90s to his name (Price did it once). Those who saw both play know Price never had the command-of-the-game that Nash, in his prime, had.

  • Kyle

    Mark Price was the point guard, and best scorer for all the Cavs’ teams that went up against Jordan’s Bulls. At age 23, he scored 21 a game against them while the shot over Ehlo lost the series.

    He was clutch, but Nash shouldn’t be dissed because of any of this. Mark Price had 3 seasons where he missed tons of playing time, and was DONE by age 31 though he hung around for 2 more seasons. If he had stayed healthy, his numbers would have been far better.

    Nash had officials who obviously had bet on the Spurs more than once in the playoffs. So only Bowen and Ginobli were allowed to play dirty against the Suns(and play tougher I suppose.) However; Price went head to head with Jordan and nearly beat the Bulls in the playoffs twice with Daugherty as his go-to guy. Nash had Nowitzki, Stoudamire… players far more skilled than Daugherty.

  • Kyle

    And for any of you who watched the playoffs when the Cavs played the Bulls… you know how good Price was. Just like when Nash went nuts in 2006 when beating his old team and bestfriend. Price was sneaky fast, a better passer than given credit, and played hurt constantly.

    I’d still take Nash, but I’d take Price over Billups unless playing for the grind it out, defensive minded Pistons that got a title. Price would excel with the Suns, Mavs, or any run and gun game. But he wasn’t a magician with the ball like Nash… he was a better defender though. I believe KJ and Price have been lost in all the top point guards of all-time talk… both were superstars when healthy. Both could pass and score(and beat better teams by themselves.)

  • http://www.springbored.net letsmotor

    Hey, Dave–where’d you look up the MVP voting results?

  • http://slamonline.com Dave.

    > Nash isn’t quick, he’s physically not equipped to be
    > even a good defender,
    Complete rubbish. If you have the physical equipment to play in the NBA you have the physical equipment to play defence.

  • http://slamonline.com Dave.
  • http://slamonline.com Dave.

    Kyle – I wouldn’t say Stoudamire is that much a better player than Dougherty.
    People also need to remember that Price was out of the league at 33 because he destroyed his knee, likewise Daughtery with his back. Fifteen years is a greater time in medicine than it is in basketball.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    @ seed how could you make the all star twice in Dallas and just be good? average? damn you idiot.. and can you please stop hating on everyone that your team faced in the playoffs. you sound pure stupid..

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    why can’t everyone accept the fact that Nash became a better player past 30? damn haters.. Price is my guy, but Nash > Price period

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    lastly.. Thanks to everyone that acknowledges Mark Price. Great respect for that dude. but then again Nash > Price.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    That’s BS on the softer league comment Ronald and Jukai.
    Free throws would be a legit consideration if Nash was the type of player to regularly get to lane with the intent of scoring. However, we all know that he drives to pass and creates kickouts and dumpoffs to his teammates. That’s why teams like the Spurs prefer to make him into a scorer, instead of allowing him to get into the defense and create for others.
    The lack of hand checking and the general non contact rules on the perimeter, along with the non contact rules on cutters, has allowed Nash to be able to turn the corner much, MUCH easier in the league, just like it’s benefited most other guards. The non contact rule makes it impossible to keep an arm or hand on player to subtly slow them down, or steer them in certain directions as was the norm during the time Mark Price played. Since the NBA is a game of inches and angles, this makes a HUGE difference in a point guards effectiveness, as evidenced by the change in Nash’s numbers once he changed systems, and once the rules changed. He went from a solid, occassional all-star, to a freaking MVP. Without any significant improvements or changes in his game.
    WTH.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Todd
    The longevity argument falls flat when you compare the numbers Price put up early in his career to the time Nash spent riding the pine in Phoenix and Dallas.
    For roughly the first four years of his career, Nash was pretty much a non-factor, and for two of his four years in Dallas he was only average.
    He only became a “star” for any extended period of time in Phoenix, and while you might attribute that to better shooting or better shot selection, I attribute it to a vastly different offensive style that was more dependent on point guard distribution and less concentrated on isos off pick and roll, which is what Don Nelson loves. Just comparing the pace between the Mavs and Suns is the wrong way to go, it’s more important to look at how each team ran its offense, and what the responsibilities and opportunities were for the point guard. In Dallas, Nash was an important cog, but in Phoenix he was the driving force behind nearly all offensive action on the floor.
    The charge argument for Nash is as specious as the steals argument once was for Allen Iverson.
    Both players led the league in a defensive category, but that doesn’t mean that either of them was a good defender. And, while Nash is not a speedster, is lack of lateral quickness is overrated. He’s not that slow. He just doesn’t expend as much energy or focus on playing tough man to man defense as he does on trying to create on the offensive end. Period. The lateral quickness argument is riduclous when you compare Nash to other “slower” guards like Chauncey Billups or John Stockton. Neither of them were speedsters, yet neither of them was exploited as often and easily as Nash in one-on-one matchups.
    And, if you try to point out that Billups and Stockton were “stronger” well that’s a function of Nash’s failure to gain strength, right?
    Nash is a great offensive player, bad defender. His MVPs are questionable, particularly the first one considering the fact that Shaq had Miami win 60 games and averaged 22 and 10. And the next year, when Lebron went for 30, 8 and 8 while winning 50 games with no other players, and Kobe had one of the greatest individual seasons in recent memory, Nash had no business being in the MVP discussion regardless of the fact that Amare was out of the year, since he still had a regular All-Star in Shawn Marion riding shotgun.
    Mark Price was Steve Nash’s equal and the only reason his career was not viewed in the same light was becuase of injuries, and toughter competition. Period.

  • The Philosopher

    Lol @Jukai:
    I don’t know who Randy Smith is?
    Fine, fine.
    I’ll stop discrediting the Legendary Chauncey Billups.

  • bigdoggchad

    Greatest Cleveland Cavalier of all-time.

  • http://google c_cantrell

    ^ha yeah ok

  • http://slamonline.com Dave.

    Allenp – high five.
    > try to point out that Billups and Stockton were
    > “stronger” well that’s a function of Nash’s failure
    > to gain strength, right?
    Absolutely. Take a look at Reggie Miller, who had every excuse to be a worse defender than Steve Nash – but he wasn’t.

  • tavoris

    Mark Price was definitely NOT slower than Nash. He wasn’t particularly athletic, but he was a demon with the ball.
    I don’t think either is a better shooter than the other. They are pretty much neck-and-neck in that regard.
    Price was a MUCH better defender by default (i.e., he tried)
    Statistically, Nash didn’t deserve either MVP. However, no one can dispute how his flawless execution of D’Antoni’s system changed how other teams coached, scouted, and drafted.

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