Friday, September 25th, 2009 at 8:00 am  |  110 responses

Top 50: Andre Iguodala, no. 26

The definitive ranking of the NBA’s best players.

by Khalid Salaam

So now what? That’s the question right? I mean in regards to Andre Iguodala. What happens now? Is there another level in him? Or is this it? When I say “this” I mean averages of 18, 6 and 5 and better-than-average (though not elite) defense. If this is it, that’s cool, but Sixers fans neAndre Iguodalaed a definitive answer this season.

Last year would have been nice too but Elton Brand’s injury put a pain on the whole team and guys played out of position. Except Iguodala doesn’t really have a position. On NBA.com he listed as a “guard-forward” which seems cool and versatile but is quietly suspect. He’s not a shooting guard, not with a 30 percent three-point average and a 72 percent average from the charity stripe. Not with a shaky handle, he’s not. And when I say shaky, I don’t mean he gets ripped on the regular. And I don’t mean he can’t blow past players… because he can. He just can’t dribble and execute plays at the same time. If he dribbles and has to look up for too long, a bad play usually ensues. But his handle is strong enough for his own needs.

When he doesn’t have to initiate any offensive sets, he’s athletic enough that his first step gets him past his defender and his second step gets him over whoever is guarding the basket. Once there, he’s dunking. And nobody outside of Wade has his dunk arsenal. He’s an intimidating, nasty dunker. But damn these dunks man. Damn them. When defenses collapse on him, he can’t shoot over them consistently enough. So he’s not a shooting guard. And the Sixers need a great shooting guard to get to the next level.

He’s a small forward. Except that the Sixers have one of those in Thad Young. Though Young can’t defend like Dre, he’s a solid rebounder and has a much cleaner offensive game. Because his offensive ceiling is higher, you’d like to keep Young at that spot. Last year out of injury desperation Thad played power forward and played respectably, but when Elton Brand comes back, Thad has to move back to his natural position (and no, Brand cannot play center. Seriously. The answer is no). Where does that leave Iguodala?

Only the Sixers brass knows and, honestly, who knows if they know. With the hiring and firing of yet another coach this offseason, you can’t trust that they have any understanding of what the heck is going on in the real world. It’s like Glenn Beck is running the team (I digress…).

The thing is keeping Iguodala isn’t a bad option. I gave the cons first because, well, I wanted to, but here are the pros… He’s brilliant on the break and finishes with authority damn near every time he can. He’s an effective defender. Strong enough to body most wing players, quick enough to stay in front of all of them and willing to take on the other team’s star player each and every night. He never misses a game. Last year he played in all 82 games, the year before the same thing. He’s willing to take the last and the tough shots. He has great anticipation, so he’s vicious in the passing lanes.

It’s the lack of a varied offensive repertoire that holds him back. If he had a real half court move, he’d break the top 20. But alas, he doesn’t, and that hole in his game hasn’t closed at all during his career.

Last season the team was exposed because of its half-court deficiency and though the team tried to address it over the summer (Kapono), it remains not just an Achilles heel but, in fact, a stress fracture. The Sixer roster is essentially full of specialists and the two guys who have more than one skill play the same position (I’m not counting Brand in this equation. Gotta see him play first…). It seems this is crossroads year for Iguodala, one that determines whether his career plays out in Philly or somewhere else.

Notes
• Rankings are based solely on projected ’09-10 performance.
• Contributors to this list include: Jake Appleman, Brett Ballantini, Russ Bengtson, Toney Blare, Shannon Booher, Myles Brown, Franklyn Calle, Gregory Dole, Emry DowningHall, Jonathan Evans, Adam Fleischer, Jeff Fox, Sherman Johnson, Aaron Kaplowitz, John Krolik, Holly MacKenzie, Ryne Nelson, Chris O’Leary, Ben Osborne, Alan Paul, Susan Price, Sam Rubenstein, Khalid Salaam, Kye Stephenson, Adam Sweeney, Vincent Thomas, Tzvi Twersky, Justin Walsh, Joey Whelan, Eric Woodyard, and Nima Zarrabi.
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  • Sandy Dover Posted: Sep.25 at 8:08 am
    If only he would improve his handle and/or his shooting…he could really take a big step up in his game. It’s actually kind of a shame that the Sixers had to overpay to keep him…I haven’t seen him to a whole bunch since his rookie season, skill-wise. I like him, I just hope he makes an effort to bump up his skill set. Iguodala with point guard skills and three-point range is scary, mini-LBJ scary.

  • sixersforlife_85 Posted: Sep.25 at 8:19 am
    Rumour is he’s our starting point guard, so those shakey handles will be on show night in and night out! Can’t wait for the season to start! Khalid you say that we need a great shooting guard to get to the next level, well I guarantee that Willie Green will be our starting 2 on opening night. That about sums up our chances this season.

  • Darksaber Posted: Sep.25 at 8:31 am
    Umm, he definitely is top 10 all nba Twitterers. Btw, who’s manning the point for Phili in 09/10? Gonna be a doozy.

  • Bryan Posted: Sep.25 at 8:34 am
    The loss of andre miller is going to hurt and it doesn’t matter who the shooting guard is.

  • Darksaber Posted: Sep.25 at 8:34 am
    Hello nemesis (Khalid): nice write up, as usual. Still, could you steer clear of the Nowitzki write up when y’all are deciding who writes that. Just pretend to nod off or something during that specific meeting. Thank you.

  • Young C Posted: Sep.25 at 8:50 am
    If the Sixers havent figured things out(i.e.:In the playoff race) by the trade deadline, they really should just go completely (Thad)young and clear cap space for 2011 when the contracts of Green, Dalembert, & Kapono expire. They would have to find takers for Iguodala and Brand. Brand would have to prove he’s healthy and can still be a force though.

  • jdn41 Posted: Sep.25 at 8:53 am
    IGGY

  • sixersforlife_85 Posted: Sep.25 at 8:59 am
    ^Completely agree. Don’t get me wrong I love Brand, especially in Chicago, but he is the exact opposite of what our team should be – young, fast and athletic.

  • Brad Long Posted: Sep.25 at 9:03 am
    If Iggy starts at the point the Sixers will be lucky to win 35 games this year. What about Jrue?

  • tavoris Posted: Sep.25 at 9:06 am
    told ya, Allenp

  • rainman10 Posted: Sep.25 at 9:27 am
    haha where do you get your opinion of Glenn Beck, from Keith Olbermann and John Stewart?

  • SIXERSBOB Posted: Sep.25 at 9:32 am
    Iggy is not starting at the point…he may be used to bring the ball up on ocassions, but the sixers offense does not need a true “point guard”, it just needs 2 guards to handle the ball. So Williams will be the starting guard and iggy will start at the 2. Do sleep on my sixers yo, they do have a deep team full of specialists…but my boy iggy has the all-around talent, and ability to finish in the clutch to take this team on his back.

  • tavoris Posted: Sep.25 at 9:43 am
    Sandy, if he hasn’t straightened out that J yet, he probably won’t. However, this is a good spot for Iggy.

  • King David Posted: Sep.25 at 9:44 am
    Lou Williams is running the point idiots

  • tavoris Posted: Sep.25 at 9:47 am
    Brad, Jrue will probably take that starting spot from Louis Williams in training camp. sixersforlife_85, somebody has to pass the ball to the young, fast, and athletic players. Jrue is the future at the spot, but I don’t see “distributor” in him yet. Without Andre Miller, their best bet is to run the O thru Brand.

  • Gerard Himself Posted: Sep.25 at 9:47 am
    What? I thought Lou Williams would be THE starting point, like a Monta Ellis 2.0? Iguodala has the perfect basketball body, strong and athletic, Pippen-esque. But he’s no Pippen, sadly enough for the Sixers fans.

  • SIXERSBOB Posted: Sep.25 at 9:47 am
    Iggy will not be the starting point. There have been a few articals saying he may play point on ocassion, which, in Jordan’s offense, really means bringing the ball up. Williams is the starting point guard and Iggy is at the 2. Dont sleep on my Sixers yo. They may be full of specialists with a couple of versitale players, but Iggy is that mix of versitale talent and clutch scorer that can carry a team. This dude is alot more clutch than people realize, hes already hit more game winners than Iverson did in his whole career here.

  • Niya-girl-fresh Posted: Sep.25 at 9:50 am
    I can’t be mad at this. Iggy really showed his growth in last season’s playoffs. He and his team almost got past the Magic, but he couldn’t do it alone. He’s missing something else to his game, if he adds that missing piece immediately the rest of his career is promising.

  • Overtime Posted: Sep.25 at 9:55 am
    No way Iggy should be this high. Too many holes in his game for my liking

  • Michael Posted: Sep.25 at 9:59 am
    hahahahahah this list is hilarious, just lost any credibility it had left. IGGY?? 26th best in the league? He is at the very max a second option on an average team, if iggy is your first or second option chances are you aint doing much.

  • Z Posted: Sep.25 at 9:59 am
    And nobody outside of Wade has his dunk arsenal. Quite an exageration.

  • Michael Posted: Sep.25 at 10:01 am
    how is he better than manu or caron? sh!t, how is this guy better than rudy gay??

  • rikson Posted: Sep.25 at 10:02 am
    I think Iggy is hyped since Philly thought he could be their franchise player and paid him as one too…. dont you think?

  • Z Posted: Sep.25 at 10:04 am
    Co-sign, Michael. What can Iggy do better than Caron besides dunking? Overrated. He had the whole floor to himself this year… no AI, no EB. It was just him, really. and he came up with 18.

  • Michael Posted: Sep.25 at 10:05 am
    the write up admitted he doesnt have a real half court move….and this is his rank, yep this list is GREAT!

  • Michael Posted: Sep.25 at 10:07 am
    Sorry to keep posting…but I do like Iggy as a player and he should be on the cusp of the top 50, but at this rank you are getting into the elite territory and i am sorry but he just doesnt belong.

  • tavoris Posted: Sep.25 at 10:09 am
    Z, Iggy dunk arsenal is actually pretty darn incredible. He should have won that dunk contest.

  • Dutch Rich Posted: Sep.25 at 10:10 am
    Thanks for this glass is half empty write-up. How this is supposed to justify his spot on the list beats me.

  • SIXERSBOB Posted: Sep.25 at 10:20 am
    yea, I agree Dutch….This guy is deff. a top 30 player, and this article does not explain why at all.

  • Kas Posted: Sep.25 at 10:20 am
    overrated. this guy is a great second or third option on a team, but he just aint good enough to be ranked this high. over shaq, caron, lewis, turkoglu, ray? just a few names i remember given a higher number than this douche

  • Kas Posted: Sep.25 at 10:26 am
    bold statement: jason richardson is better than iguodala.(and thats not saying alot about Jrich)

  • SIXERSBOB Posted: Sep.25 at 10:27 am
    I think you guys need to watch hime play. If you only watch sportscenter, I could imagine he would look overrated. Watch a full game…hes a good allaround player and he is clutch. This dude doesnt miss when the game is on the line.

  • Ryne Nelson Posted: Sep.25 at 10:37 am
    Khalid is real about the Sixers ‘star’. It think it’s a great article, probably one of the most realistic I’ve read. For those who missed the last couple paragraphs, check those out and reconsider some of hate.

  • Michael Posted: Sep.25 at 10:47 am
    i re-read those paragraphs Ryne, and it still doesnt scream 26th best player in the league to me. Admit it dude, this ranking is hard to defend. It is a good article, just not one that justifies the high placement.

  • dial up Posted: Sep.25 at 10:48 am
    Um, Jrue Holiday wasn’t even an average shooting guard in ucla. He was horrible, and summer league showed he has no promise as a pg. Philly’s screwed unless Brand returns back to ol’ form.

  • TADOne Posted: Sep.25 at 10:58 am
    I’m trying to figure out if Khalid wrote this article to defend Iggy’s placement or not? Regardless, it was a true and just write up. I do think that he may be slightly overrated, though.

  • MSkittle Posted: Sep.25 at 11:02 am
    Everyone is too hard on his shooting. You can’t average 20 ppg in the league without a jump shot.

  • Young C Posted: Sep.25 at 11:05 am
    Why does he have to be a douche? He didnt put himself in the top 26.lol J-Rich might be a better fit for some teams because of his shooting, but he is not a better all-around basketball player than Iguodala. He doesnt really defend, rebound, or distribute anywhere near Iguodalas level. J-Rich has never averaged more than 4 assists and he shoots 70% fts for his career. And until Rudy Gay does something other than chuck shots, Iggys better than him also.

  • Clark Posted: Sep.25 at 11:06 am
    Yo I’m not hating on Iggy’s skills or anything, I think he is a very good player. That being said, if the entire NBA was re-draftd, I highly doubt Iggy would be any teams first pick. Definitely not top 30 material. I see somewhere between 45-55 (even though this is only top 50).

  • SIXERSBOB Posted: Sep.25 at 11:07 am
    He has a jumpshot…his mid-range game is good…hes just inconsistant from behind the arc…he shots 45% for a 2 guard, and most of those shots are not dunks

  • 360vue Posted: Sep.25 at 11:09 am
    im never gonna enjoy people bad mouthing iggy but ill get to that, however this ranks a bit too high though. but lol this list has been laughable at times. Z, stfu about iggy’s dunks. the true dunk champion for the 06 season, nate didnt do a single spectacular dunk, he was just some midget who could actually reach the rim so it was mildly impressive. not elite defense?! one of the steal leaders in the league, near the top 10 i remember. he mans up on every star player he faces and almost always causes a noticeable reduction in their effeciency and being a sixers fan i do notice this for 82games a year. if limiting the best players in the world night in night out is just better-than-average D then the worlds biggest LOL is in order. this boy is clutch, all star defender, run n gun, unstoppable on his drives to the lane in a fashion comparable only to lebron, excellent reading of the game (although not with the ball in his hand as he cant multi task i suspect)
    but granted, his handle is mediocre and for someone who gets fouled so often his charity % needs to be at least .800+ iggy will be at 2 this season no doubt, thad too good to not be starting. the article completely ignores the fact that kapono has been brought in, specifically to assist young in consistently hitting treys whilst also spreading the court for iggys penetration. PLUS with an all star back in brand, iggys production will go past 20 points as the floor is even more open as he will able to drive to the lane more frequently, and ive never seen him miss an open J. all those doubters of iggy boohoo, although 26 is too high for now. probably around the 35mark more appropriate, but realistically this guy is future all star. i say that because i have faith in him to step up further

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.25 at 11:10 am
    Andre’s shooting isn’t that good but his jumper has definitely seen improvement. Game 1 buzzer beater anyone? He can’t shoot 3′s though. I really think Thaddeus Young will be better than Iguodala in the future, and I also think Dre should have been like 30 something. But hey, Lamar Odom made THIRTY THREE! Wow…

  • SIXERSBOB Posted: Sep.25 at 11:15 am
    I agree with those last 2 post for the most part, I do think that he is top 30…i see top 30 as allstar quality player. If you were to take away all of those second option players that just follow the coattail of their superstar teammates (mo williams, R. Lewis) Iggy was an allstar last year. I think this is a good spot for him. Not top 20…but is close to getting there.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.25 at 11:23 am
    Dre is a good defender, but let’s be clear about something:
    Ron Artest, Shane Battier, and Dwight Howard are the 3 best defenders in the league.

  • Simon S.Y Lawy Posted: Sep.25 at 11:25 am
    Top 3 clutch guy 1:kobe 2:vc 3:Iggy
    And my man IGGY makes 4 or 5 buzzer beater at 08-09 season. You’ll find out, if you guys watch 76ers game …

  • Joey E. Posted: Sep.25 at 11:27 am
    a little too high for me

  • Klav Posted: Sep.25 at 11:32 am
    I’m just wondering when the ’95 Draft Remix is gonna get posted, I’m excited. And Dre, he’s not a franchie player…he’s a better 2nd banana like everyone else said. Imagine him on the current Clips roster, damn.

  • Klav Posted: Sep.25 at 11:34 am
    @Teddy, no way. Dahntay Jones is the certified DPOY next year. Sike.

  • Klav Posted: Sep.25 at 11:35 am
    @Simon forgot about Gil.

  • dial up Posted: Sep.25 at 11:45 am
    SHANE BATTER IS A GOOD DEFENSIVE PLAYER!?!! Real truth: You must not play ball. Putting your hand in front of someone’s face wont do anything, as they will still know where the basket is. Going for the ball is a basketball move, there’s a reason why shane doesnt guard the best players very well. Might work on bron, but you guys should know he already doesnt know how to shoot. -

  • rikson Posted: Sep.25 at 11:54 am
    “Might work on bron, but you guys should know he already doesnt know how to shoot. -” Thats a joke! Im not a Lebron fan, but his shooting skills has improved dramatically. Right now, defenders have to respect his J…. Imagine Iggy with the same improvement!

  • Sparker Posted: Sep.25 at 11:59 am
    always a pleasure to read whatever khalid writes

  • Z Posted: Sep.25 at 12:00 pm
    wow, dial up. just wow. every single sentence of your last post was incorrect. shane is an excellent defender. putting your hand in someone’s face will affect his shooting. going for the ball is a stupid play at the nba level. shane guards the best players very well. he can’t stop lebron (you can’t stop elite wings, just make them work hard and not go off above their avg). / iggy would be at best a third or even fourth option on the elite nba teams (orl, lal, cle, bos, san an, den). 26th? please. the write up is an excellent assessment of his game, it just doesn’t justify him being 26th.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.25 at 12:02 pm
    I remember when a lot of people said it was Iverson that prevented Iggy from blossoming on offense. Yep, I remember that.
    It was always the jumper and the handle. Always.

  • Z Posted: Sep.25 at 12:03 pm
    funny thing about bron: journos always talk about his broken jumper and yet guys don’t really back off on him and crowd him like crazy on the perimeter.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.25 at 12:05 pm
    Tavoris
    While I still question whether Iggy will have a better season than a healthy Manu, I can respect this ranking since he’s not in the top 25. I would have had a problem with that for real. 26th feels high, but I can’t think of too many players below him that I think are better.
    What’s funny is that Iggy and Rudy Gay are damn near the same player with different attitudes.

  • Z Posted: Sep.25 at 12:08 pm
    Allenp, I feel that Caron is way better.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.25 at 12:08 pm
    Z
    That’s because you don’t want to give Lebron too much cushion and let him get a full head of steam on a drive. You want to make him move laterally more when he’s driving because if you back off and he works up his momentum, he kills you given the fouls rules today. Bodying up, particularly within the three point line, prevents him from living at the foul line.

  • Klav Posted: Sep.25 at 12:10 pm
    Allenp, then again, Rudy has that sweet stroke!

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.25 at 12:25 pm
    Z
    Given that the “criteria” for the list was projected performance, I can see the logic for going with a young and hungry Igoudala over Caron. I can see someone assuming that Caron would be injured yet again while Igoudala would grow as a leader and player.
    Klav
    Rudy has a nicer stroke, but both of them are crazy streaky. Igoudala is just more willing to do the little things than Rudy and less likely to pout. I think that’s going to be a really interesting dynamic in Memphis next year because Rudy and Mayo had some serious problems sharing the ball. And now they’ve added Zack and Iverson? Crazy.

  • tavoris Posted: Sep.25 at 12:26 pm
    Allenp, actually Iggy reminds me a lot of Drexler (without Terry Porter passing him the ball, of course)

  • UnRel Posted: Sep.25 at 12:28 pm
    this is way too high.. this list isn’t about how good they are.. or whatever… but how good they will be in 09-10… i’ll take LO, Caron, Manu (healthy or not), Ray Allen.. and quite a few other dudes that have already been listed.. but whatever.. Iggy is a tweener.. which is sad.. cause it’s not because of his body type.. but his skill set.. can’t dribble/can’t shoot.. can’t be a guard.. too small to be a true forward… bottom line.. he’s only on the list cause he’s on a playoff team…

  • vmcb Posted: Sep.25 at 12:28 pm
    Iguodala is one of my favourite players. His game winners are ice cold. He sure would look good in a Raptors jersey, too. *sigh*

  • SIXERSBOB Posted: Sep.25 at 12:45 pm
    Im not trying to compare the sixers to any title team, but the pistons a few years back were full of specialists too. They had a good team defense and a few scorers that can drop 20ppg. Sixers have the same scoring talent and have driven players that can implement a good team defense (now that A Miller left to go back-up steve blake). There are not many guys in the league that have the all around “good” talent that Iggy has. Hes the type of player, in the right system, that helps win championships.

  • onlyclipfanonslam Posted: Sep.25 at 12:50 pm
    I’m a big Iggy fan, and he doesn’t get burned when doing the big balls dance. Still, don’t know if he is better than Tough Juice

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.25 at 12:56 pm
    Tavoris
    Nah, Clyde was way more fluid even if his handle was atrocious. Clyde had a finesse game, even while he was dunking on cat’s heads. Plus, he understood positioning better, and was decent from mid-range with the jumper. I mean, Clyde average around 25 a game if I’m not mistaken and he was up around 50 percent shooting a couple years. Iggy couldn’t do that in his dreams.

  • tavoris Posted: Sep.25 at 1:08 pm
    u right, Allenp

  • cb 34 Posted: Sep.25 at 1:11 pm
    Great write-up khalid. I’m with you on this. Iggy was never supposed to be the man. He was an athletic tweener brought in to play alongside ai. Ai left and they snatch brand who btw i think is way overrated. He was left to hold the fort and became a superstar by default. He’s grown into his role and will only get better. Clutch as vc, david west and hedo. His 3 against the lakers last season while down 2 with a sec to go was impressive. His response after the game,that you can’t go to ot against la at staples cause you’ll lose so he wanted to end it on that play. That response shows maturity and supreme confidence which is a required trait for all the superstars. His passing is way underrated too. He gets that jumper down and he’s the closest player resembling bron’s game but still a distant second. I’d pay good money to see him play.

  • ja lawrence Posted: Sep.25 at 1:13 pm
    Definitely not better than Caron Butler. Sometimes Iguodala’s game is just… clumsy and all over the place.

  • Brad Long Posted: Sep.25 at 1:22 pm
    Here’s the way I interpret this list. If there was a draft now made up of the entire league and the only point of that draft was to win a championship next year, who would be picked and in what order. Now, of course you will be basing your decsion off of their past performances but the only thing that matters is next year. That being said, I’d take about 10-12 guys who’ve already been listed before Iggy.

  • Kieran Posted: Sep.25 at 1:35 pm
    I like Andre, but this is definately a good few place too high. If he works hard on his weaknesses during the off season every year then he could be scary.

  • Wayno Posted: Sep.25 at 1:37 pm
    Co-sign B.Long – I’ve never been too impressed with Iggy, although admittedly I haven’t watched him play a whole lot either.

  • J-City Posted: Sep.25 at 1:40 pm
    Still can’t believe my Raps draft Hoffa over this guy. Anyway, he’s my favorite player in the league. Freakishly athletic and a terror in the passing lanes. Terrific all around game too and very underrated passer. The only problem I have with him is he seems to be passive alot of the time he’s out there. He just stands there and doesn’t do anything unless he knows the play is designed for him. This may become a bigger problem once Brand is back because if you look at last year’s stats, Iggy really stunk until EB got hurt. Andre Miller also gave him alot of easy lobs and passes, it’s yet to be seen if Lou can do the same.

  • Adam Fleischer Posted: Sep.25 at 1:50 pm
    This is a great freakin’ piece, Khalid. Love the way you painted the multiple aspects of his game-both good and bad. And I wouldn’t have been mad if your Glenn Beck digression continued, either. For another time, I guess.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.25 at 2:11 pm
    dial up clearly doesn’t know basketball. Trying to argue that Shane Battier is a bad defender is like saying Dominique Wilkins can’t dunk. Or Reggie Miller can’t shoot. I really did not expect anyone to ACTUALLY try to argue that.

  • will Posted: Sep.25 at 2:14 pm
    I watch a lot of this guy and this is one of those situations where 26 seems really high since he can still be a bit erratic at times. I still didn’t consider him “the man” in Philly last year because Andre Miller ran that squad. Still, I can’t make a great argument for the guys right below him on the list to be placed higher due to age (Shaq, Ray) or injuries (Manu). Other guys are secondary players like Iggy that you can’t make a huge distinction between their worth (D West, Caron) so it’s sort of a matter of “pick one”. If he can put all of his skills together and work well with Brand, he just might justify this.

  • niQ Posted: Sep.25 at 2:14 pm
    Co-sign Z @ 12:00pm

  • JL Posted: Sep.25 at 3:07 pm
    too high for this guy. He’s got a shaky handle, no outside shot, almost top end defense, ok passer… but very athletic. that gets you to no. 26?

  • Moose Posted: Sep.25 at 3:11 pm
    Devin Harris over Andre Iguodala? Really? But I still think that Iggy is overrated on this list.

  • Moose Posted: Sep.25 at 3:15 pm
    And I’d like to apologize for my blind Rondo arguments yesterday. I had some horrible evidence to back up my Rondo-Rose standpoint, and I’m sorry for letting bias start a stupid argument.

  • JESUS Posted: Sep.25 at 3:30 pm
    MANU GINOBILI > ANDRE IGUODALA

  • Klav Posted: Sep.25 at 3:36 pm
    I think this is the first ranking where the concensus is that his ranking is overrated in the top 50. And no SOFOKLIS to argue how there are 2429943824923 international players better than him because he’s a “track & field” athlete who doesn’t know how to play basketball because he can’t shoot. And it’s a Friday, today is quite interesting.

  • Joel O's Posted: Sep.25 at 4:38 pm
    Versatility can be a curse if you’re versatile but not extremely outstanding at a single thing, and that’s Iggy’s problem. Decent handles, so-so shooter, all right passer. His greatest strength is his athleticism, but without the offensive mind to utilize it, that goes underutilized too.

  • 360vue Posted: Sep.25 at 6:25 pm
    26 is too high. i mean if you work on the basis that you take the best player from every team in the league, and LA, BOS, ORL, SAS and maybe even CLE have have several players who could be aruged to be top 30, i would say that iggy falls shy of making the grade you’ve given him. But to those who argue about his skill set when quite obviously u barely even watch the guy, i mean really, its all good to express your opinion and stuff but dont facilitate fallous views that arent even remotely true. ive read that he cant pass, he cant handle, he cant shoot in these comments??! that dude can pass, and hes underrated for it. miller ran the team last few years and before that AI got fed the ball 80% of the plays so the majority will barely have seen him make more than ten passes.
    and the kid does have a J, its just not all star J, which is what he was tipped to be a few years ago. You could argue its average, but an avg J for a swing forward in the NBA is still a bloody good jump in all reality. He’s not a long range shooter, but if hes on a streak he can knock down deep treys and buzzer beaters without a blink of the eye. and to be honest, who needs an impeccable J when you can demolish people on your way to the basket like he can? just because he has a solid all round game doesnt make him weak in certain things solely because he doesnt excel like you notice other superstars. basically, most of u either need to watch him play or just stfu because u dont really know what ur talkin about. but still, even as philly fan, too high a ranking, but not bad enough of a rank to deserve all the slate its getting. hes better than Manu and Caron, and putting Shaqs indominatable play in the past to one side, hes better rank than shaq as hes nearly a decade younger.
    and lets not forget, this list is for fun, so a few need to breathe
    —-
    As a philly fan though, i will defend this ranking against the doubters by saying 20/6/5/2 in the NBA is never to be sniffed at, and some of you are scoffing at it.

  • jdn41 Posted: Sep.25 at 6:54 pm
    i love slam and all but i wish the website was more multi media like each player ranking should have a clip of their highlights and ish that’d be dope or a theme song for each player i dont know anything

  • Tariq Posted: Sep.25 at 7:15 pm
    What a great way to interpret the list, B.Long. And yup, Iggy is way too high on it.

  • Akira Posted: Sep.25 at 7:23 pm
    LOUIS WILLIAMS CAN PLAY AT PG POSITION HE’S NOT A BAD PLAYER

  • Tariq Posted: Sep.25 at 7:26 pm
    I actually think (hope) Arenas will make a big comeback, so if we were drafting a la Brad’s interpretation, I’d draft Gil a lot higher than his placing on this list. At the same time, I can’t really say that I have a problem with him being so low what with all his injuries.

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.25 at 8:20 pm
    teddy, agreed. It literally is on that level of ridiculousness

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.25 at 8:50 pm
    @ Z: I know what you mean. Its the same thing when people call Iverson a bad shooter because of his shooting percentage. At the end of the day NO defender is going to feel comfortable backing off of Iverson and letting him shoot an open jumper.
    With LeBron its a little different because as you said, he’ll drive on you even/especially if you give him a cushion.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.25 at 8:51 pm
    Which is actually why Ron Artest is probably best suited at containing LeBron James. Artest has the strength to body up on him around the perimeter.

  • Furious Posted: Sep.25 at 8:56 pm
    the reason people say lebron has a problem with his shot is that he shot 34% from 3 last year. and that was the second best in his career.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.25 at 9:29 pm
    I never knew a small forward had to shoot 3′s like Ray Allen to be considered having a good jumpshot. I guess what Bernard King had was just, what, a reliable “long-distance layup?”

  • AJBALLER Posted: Sep.25 at 11:21 pm
    whos number 1 ill say kode over lebron and d.wade even though i hat kobe

  • AJBALLER Posted: Sep.25 at 11:24 pm
    hey guys its chaunceys billups b-day today its also scottie pippens b-day today and my moms

  • Anton Posted: Sep.26 at 1:26 am
    I am electrified by Glenn Beck

  • Z Posted: Sep.26 at 2:31 am
    34% is not that bad actually. Kobe goes 34-35% from deep too. You’re considered an elite shooter at 40%. / Artest has the strenght but not the footspeed. Rip Hamilton said this during the playoffs, people always talk about Bron’s strenght and hops… but he’s also the fastest guy in the league from baseline to baseline.

  • Steve Posted: Sep.26 at 7:34 am
    So will the Bucks be the only club without a player in the top 50. No way Redd can be in over Iggy.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.26 at 4:37 pm
    @ Z: I’m talking about along the perimeter. On the fast break and in the open court LeBron is virtually unstoppable. But with Artest bodying up on him around the perimeter he’ll have to move laterally as you said. With Kobe ready to double up and two bigs down low, he’s going to have a hard time against the Lakers. Look, we’ve already seen the results of Artest on LeBron. He isn’t going to completely shut out LeBron, but 21 points and 0 assists is the best ANYBODY in the league can do. That’s what I’m saying; great wing players are always going to get theirs, but the player BEST SUITED to containing (not stopping) LeBron James is Ron Artest (and probably Shane Battier). What is there to argue?

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.26 at 7:16 pm
    100.

  • Danny Abelson Posted: Sep.27 at 2:52 am
    Andre Iguodala is one of the most underrated players in the NBA, and these rankings show it. He’s one of three players to average over 18, 5 and 5, over the last three seasons. The other two are Bron and Kobe. Come on now…26?!? Way to low. Top 15 people!! Sixers are gonna surprise the league this year. 4th place in the East. Get at us!

  • newjersey devil Posted: Sep.27 at 11:33 pm
    awesome player jus needs a jumpshot wher is shard lewis ranked

  • knock Posted: Sep.27 at 11:48 pm
    Great player but inconsistent. Sometimes he can shoot the ball, sometimes he can’t hit the side of the rim.

  • Anton Posted: Sep.28 at 2:45 am
    How is Ron supposed to guard a power forward?

  • 360vue Posted: Sep.28 at 6:17 pm
    anton. get the f out of here. lebron will get destroyed against most good power forwards, its quite simply not his game, and despite lebrons all round brilliance he aint gonna have the smarts of power forward playing that most PF’s possess. Has he played it much in his career? No. Has he had a great/very good PF on his team to learn from? No. He isnt playing PF, so stfu. Why would they give varejao 50mil+ to bench him?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
    —— Also, Danny Abelson, I totally agree with you on the 18/ 5/ 5 bit, becuase its true. But such a statement ignores Lebron and Kobes far higher scoring rates, and the fact that iggy turns over too much for a star player, then again so did iverson so maybe thats not such an issue…
    but still, 26 is too high for my main man. it hurts me say this because i genuinely think he could be top 15 if he put maximum effort in. 4th in the east is within our reach with thad/iggy/brand but only if brand gets his old game back, and if jrue/lou are smart with their play to maximise the efficiency of our best players… there is a few too many if’s for me there. i reckon 6th overall, although naturally hoping for much higher. ultimately, i cant envisage how jordan is going to fare as coach over 82 games season, so its hard to predict.

  • Anton Posted: Sep.29 at 12:09 am
    Feed me your irrational hate, I thrive on it.
    1. LeBron WILL play more PF this year. Will he be effective? Gee, I don’t know, every time he posted up in the playoffs it lead to an easy bucket for someone else. But I do see your point, it is largely uncharted territory for him but I wouldn’t bet against him.
    2. Varejao is good enough on the Cavs to be a starter but he’s great off the bench as well. As someone who probably hasn’t seen more than 2 full Cavs games, I’m assuming you don’t know that AV plays great man-to-man defense against most PF’s in the league

  • Wes Posted: Oct.4 at 11:54 am
    Prediction crystal ball 8Detroit
    7Chicago
    6Orlando
    5Atlanta
    4Philadelphia
    3Washington
    2Boston
    1Cleveland yes

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