Tuesday, February 24th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  73 responses

Video: Devin Harris Doesn’t Believe in Conventional Game-Winners

by Marcel Mutoni

Due to the shot leaving Devin’s hands a millisecond (if that) prior to the final buzzer, it’s a play that’ll be analyzed and debated with Zapruder-like intensity for the next few days by Sixers and Nets fans. And the Sixers even intend to call the League office about it.

All I know is that this is arguably the highlight of the season thus far:

And somewhere deep in the heart of Texas, Mark Cuban’s face is sore … from having been the receipient of numerous punches from its owner.

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  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    So what now, is the league gonna let them get away with it? Not like it’s a big deal, but if they set the precedence on taking away something as inconsequential as Lebron’s 50 point triple double away from him, they should definitely look into this.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I guess they can’t overrule a ref’s call…..but in last second situations, the refs should also be able to look for infractions/fouls on the play/shooter, offensivly and defensivly, as well as the shot release/beating the clock. This would have been the perfect moment for it.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Hahaha. Zapruder-like intensity, indeed. When did the shot go off? The Dallas connection! Why did Devin Harris flinch when Iggy didn’t touch him – was there a SECOND defender hidden behind a grass knoll?

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @Eboy: So the refs coulda just sat down and said “hold on a minute”, looked things over through like we all collectively did, and made a better decision. They shoulda done it indeed so they can get this thing down pat before playoff time.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    But they’re not allowed to look at the periphal stuff Joel….I think they can only look at relase/clock expiration and if a player releases the ball behind the three point line.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    True. Oh well, I guess? After watching it yet again I’m actually pretty sure it’s a walk. Crafty move by Harris, though… I didn’t think he had it in him.

  • j-smoov 5

    Whoa.

  • j-smoov 5

    …I think he traveled…

  • http://www.http://courtsidebasketball.blogspot.com/ stu

    @ Lang.
    You are right in that if you took two steps and shot a J, it was blocked back to you, you could not take two more steps, no bounce, towards the rim to shoot.
    HOWEVER – harris does not – noes. not. – take two steps when the ball gets back into his hands. when he recovers the ball off iggy’s arm, in one motion he controls/pushes/heaves the ball to the rim, only (and firmly) planting one foot on the ground. there wasn’t two steps with the recovered ball. there isn’t. at all. anywhere on the tape. it didn’t happen.
    So back to your example – if you took two steps and popped a J and it was blocked back to you. could you set from where you caught it and shoot it again? absolutely yes, 8 times out of 7.

  • http://www.http://courtsidebasketball.blogspot.com/ stu

    yeah.. ‘noes’.. ‘does’ would have made too much sense..

  • cp3mvp0809

    that was…beautiful *tear*

  • Mike

    @Lang
    Actually lang you could technically do that. Because if you ever watch somebody take a fastbreak pass in stride they never dribble, they just catch, take two steps and lay it in. It would however be a travel if he caught it planted, then took two steps, but harris was granted a new possession as it hit AI so while it may look like he walked, it was most definetly clean.

  • http://nba.com tealish

    ^Mike is right. If you catch the ball in motion (whether via a pass on a fastbreak or if it were blocked back to you) you’re allowed 2 steps whether you decide to dribble or not.
    If Devin was at a standstill when the ball was blocked back to him, then the 2 steps are illegal.
    -
    The only issue here is whether Iggy touched the ball. If he did, the shot’s good. If he didn’t, that’s a self pass and a travel. This is what’s hard to tell and if you can’t definitively overturn the call on the floor, you leave it be.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Harris plays for the foul, doesnt get it, the ball is bumped into Iggy (focus purely on the movement of the BALL- NOT Iggy’s arm) it then ricochetes (sp?) off Harris’s elbow (his left one) and falls into his right hand.
    It’s not a travel. He doesn’t have control of the ball AND it’s been touched by another player.
    Lang’s example is invalid as pointed out by Mike.
    Someone please tell me if they think the trajectory of the ball changes once it leaves Harris’s hands the first time. I do. It definitely moves.
    If I’m a referee, I’m letting the steps go too (and yeh I’m qualified as a 1C referee so I can make an educated judgement on it).

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    You’re also 16, Hursty.

  • sab

    wow, helluva lot of discussion when all that really needed to be said was “wow, what an amazing shot! harsh on the sixers!”
    you guys need to ENJOY life a little more!!

  • MalevolentKing7242

    peoples dont argue devin made it no walk. it was good to the lights didnt go of while in his hands

  • youngmuggsy

    Lang: you’re allowed to take two steps if you catch the ball while moving.

  • youngmuggsy

    Obviously Lang has never seen a fast break before.

  • http://www.bbaxn.com Darksaber

    told ya Lang, it was legal. Sorry.

  • http://nba.com tealish

    OK, I watched it again and clearly at 0:35 the ball stalls when it hits Iggy’s left hand at about shoulder’s height. The ball doesn’t just blimp up mid-trajectory like that. Fine observation, Hursty.

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    @Darksaber, tealish, Hursty, stu and others: you are correct. @Lang&Eboy: WRONG. And Eboy, contrary to popular belief, seniority doesn’t make you a smarter or more knowledgeable person. It also does not add authority to a statement.

    @refs: great no-call. iggy’s slap at the ball seemed clean, there was no walk BECAUSE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CATCH THE BALL IN STRIDE AND TAKE A MAXIMUM OF TWO STEPS EBOY AND LANG, and the shot was released on time.

    @myself: please realize that you are more than a day too late to participate in the discussion and no one is going to read this comment.

    o yeah nice shot devin

  • Tuomas

    I read it, mainly because I’m usually too f’n late as well. And you’re also correct on every count except for the fact that – as said above – there’s no need to even contemplate whether you can take two steps after regaining possession, since Harris took exactly one. No more, no less. Iggy touching the ball would’ve probably been more obvious from the courtside angle, but one of the refs is conveniently blocking the view.

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