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Friday, March 26th, 2010 at 10:00 am  |  160 responses

LeBron: I Could Win Scoring Title Every Year

LBJ is not a man who lacks confidence in his own abilities, as these statements to the media horde prove. Via the Akron Beacon Journal:

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  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Did he really need to say that?

  • http://www.redsarmy.com Mauritz

    Well, I suppose he’s right.

  • http://slamonline.com Adam Fleischer

    That’s the truth.

  • http://cool_breeze_101@hotmail.com RUN’N'GUN219

    so could Kobe, Melo, and Dirk.. But they dont hold the ball 18 of the 24 seconds of the shot clock like lebron does. His number are inflated because of the offense(or lack of offense they run)

  • trainer33

    At least he’s honest.Kobe could learn from this guy.

  • blackpinoy

    seriously? we all know he can but does he need to say that? its like oden saying i have a bigger d*ck than everyone..brons an as$

  • http://aol.com RUN’N'GUN219

    So could Kobe, Melo, Dwade, and Dirk. But they dont hold ball 18 of the 24 second on the clock like lebron does< his numbers are inflated because of the offense( or lack of offese) they run

  • http://alimartin07@yahoo.com Ali

    Nothing really new to me, if you really follow the game…after his second year we could all see that Bron was an all around beast on the court in every aspect of the game, and scoring was not going to be a problem for him. Scoring titles don’t equate to championships baby.

  • Chris

    every year kobe didn’t feel like it… right LeBron?…

  • PrimeSinister

    I think you mean LBJ can learn something from Kobe.

  • WOODY

    Is it arrogance if it’s truth. I don’t think so.

  • letsmotor

    probably true, but give me a break. not even like the reporter asked him if he would be able to and he just answered “yes.” he mentioned it all on his own and was really insistent about it.

  • Jacob (from Australia)

    I think he’s talking more of a personal drive and ambition. He wants a championship and that’s what hes focused on. He’s just saying if he focused on purely scoring, then he could get those useless titles. Wouldn’t reward him or his team with wins/championships though.

  • http://alimartin07@yahoo.com Ali

    co-sign WOODY…in this day and age people can’t decipher/understand the differents between arrorance, confidents, and just being straight cocky, Hahaha….and please, please nobody mention the word swag…Hahaha…..

  • JoeMaMa

    Lebron sucks. No, wait…Kobe sucks. Which one sucks again??? Haters, begin!!!

  • Sparty’s Law

    If I was a Cavs fan I would love his arrogance. But I am not, so I don’t.

  • LA Huey

    Skip Bayless is about to make his paper today

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    LeBron doesn’t have a “Ctrl” key on his keyboard – he’s always in control.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I mean, is he lying?
    I guess you could say he’s wrong if he and Kobe decide to go for the scoring title in the same year since Kobe is a better scorer, but I’m not even sure then. Lebron is putting 30, and half the time he’s cruising at 3/4 speed.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    He’s not lying, but he still shouldn’t say it. Also, Durant might have something to say about all of that, too.

  • http://slamonline.com CB 34

    He wasn’t being arrogant, he was merely stating a fact. Nothing wrong with it. This is why he’s Bron. I don’t think i’ve ever seen anybody else as comfortable with who he is and where he’s headed aside from Michael. I love he’s like this, it’s the truth anyway.

  • cramzy

    in other news, water was found to be wet

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  • Rob

    I don’t like him but he’s not lying. Now if he says he’s gonna win a championship, i’m gonna laugh all day long!

  • http://manuei.tumblr.com/ ManueII

    I like that, I like that. Lebron is right, nice UK shirt lol

  • The Philosopher

    Lebron is the greatest player in the world. Period.

  • Logues

    why is he wearing a kentucky warmup shirt? ya, it is prolly the truth, but its still kinda being arrogant because that was just unneccessary, like why did he feel the need to say that? its like that guy that wont pass you the ball if your wide open and instead of making the easy pass right away, he tries to make a fancy pass to look cool. terrible analogy, but it makes sense in my head right now

  • Fat Lever

    I’d be curious if next season he just goes into F The World, I’m Doing Me Mode. How many PPG could he avg(especially in a good offensive philosophy)? I’d say 40 is a possibility.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    You know, Although he’s averaging a career high in assists, this should have been the year he just stopped passing and averged like 40 ppg then say “I’m outta here” LOL. just playing btw, for those who are too serious for their own good..

  • jones farmer man

    Truth. And at this point in their respective physical conditions, Kobe could NOT beat LeBron to a coring title even if he wanted to. Past 5 years, sure. This year, no. Sure Kobe’s been plagued with injuries but that’s part of the game. And also his age. Like someone said, LeBron gets 30s at 3/4 speed.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Honestly, the dude is averaging 8.5 apg and he still gets about 30 ppg. If he were as selfish as Kobe he’d be putting up a minimum of 36ppg.

  • Logues

    bron looks high in that youtube vid before u push play

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Wow. Fat Lever.. We posted almost the same thing at the same time… scary.

  • http://theurbangriot.com/ NUPE

    1) He’s right. 2) It didn’t seem arrogant to me in the context of the question. 3) Kobe/Melo/Dirk/KD can’t make the same statement because it wouldn’t be true for them. 4) He didn’t need/have to say it, but as point #2, the statement made sense. 5) As much as many don’t like him for his perceived arrogance etc – he may be the best team player sense Magic.

  • DDB

    Lebron is more on cruise control than Kobe? Kobe is the ultimate cruise control guy. Do you see some of the shots he takes? It’s like he’s just trying things to see if he can do it.

    As for Lebron taking as many shota as Kobe and dominating more as a result: Kobe shoots 1.3 FG a game more than Bron and Bron averages abt 3 FTs more a game…so that makes them about even in terms of shot attempts. However, Bron is playing in a wide open system where he controls the ball for 20 second of the shot clock.

  • Rob

    He can keep those scoring titles. Mamba likes rings better

  • http://aol.com RUN’N'GUN219

    Wayno- Kobe averaged 5apg while scoring 35ppg. With smush parker, vlad rad, chris mihm, and kwame brown on his team. and they made the playoffs that year and almost be the suns.

  • unrel

    bron is both arrogant and confident.. it’s one thing to flex after you dunk.. or guarantee wins.. or score 20+ in a quarter.. and another thing to wear a shirt that says “LBJ/MVP”.. i’ve never heard or seen any of the greats pump themselves up so much.. leave that ish for your marketing team..

  • onlyclipsfanonslam

    can’t believe everyone is dismissing that he is sporting UK. So if a team like the Nets does win the lottery and pick John Wall, best friend Jiggaman, boat load of cash…

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    I am not James the Balla.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Kobe IS the second best scorer in the league right now, so obviously he could just turn it on and take the #1 spot with a couple of big ga……….oh wait….that’s not even close to being true at all. Well, Kobe did lead the league in scoring last year, so it’s not to far remov……uhm…wait that’s not right, either. Oh, oh, oh….I know….after the Cavs win the title this season, Kobe will be on a mission NEXT season to be the best overall player in the game ag…….uhm, that’s not happening either. Wake up, ballbag riders, the kids time is now and the future, a championship this season will just validate the smart people’s views.

  • Roc

    LeBron is the new Wilt.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Is this before or after he becomes a billionaire global icon?

  • NJ4Life

    Tracy McGrady won scoring titles too…. please. As if this guys ego wasn’t overinflated enough, he’s gotta say stuff like that. How bout “If I really tried, I would’ve never gotten dunked on by that college kid”. Kobe could still beat him to a scoring title. He absolutely toys with his defenders every possession. Yea Bron could muscle his way to the hoop for 40 for a season, but Kobe could go for that without stepping inside the paint.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    If you have any common sense you already knew this.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    And Kobe can’t do that for an entire 82 game season. Its a good question as to whether Kobe can do that for an entire series. Actually this season, you can ask if he can even still do it for an entire game. Considering Kobe has over 15 games where he has shot under 40%

  • http://myspace.com/heislegend Bryan

    If any of the superstars was gunning for a scoring title they could win it. Wade, Bron, Durant, Melo and yes Kobe.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Kobe has as many 40 Point games this year, as games where he shot under 30%. Ill take Kobe with 10 seconds left, but not for a scoring title

  • http://myspace.com/heislegend Bryan

    Ok a healthy Kobe , is that better?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Kobe has too much mileage to play a healthy season. If we are going “it could happen” then Allen Iverson could come back and score 25ppg but he all know it will never happen. There are only two players that if the scoring title were the most important thing could compete with LeBron, Durant and Melo. In a year or two I think Durant will be a more complete scorer then LeBron, but not yet

  • neaorin

    As long as he doesn’t actually try on purpose for scoring titles, I’m OK with it.

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out to Darnell Valentine.

  • thesaint

    u people constantly hate on every little thing… hes right he can do it and if everyone knows why not say it

  • Kadavour

    LeBron’s feats of scoring haven’t begun to approach some of the stuff Kobe has done and still can do. He began the season posting a 40pt game every week before being slowed by injuries. Experimented with his post game a lil’ bit and i guarantee we will see him return there in the playoffs. Dude is still steps ahead of anyone in the league. LeBron could lead the league in scoring if Kobe doesn’t want to.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Kobe has as many 40 Point games this year, as games where he shot under 30%.

  • Kadavour

    Kobe’s mileage has NOTHING to do with playing a healthy season. Injuries happen, recovery is where we see how mileage takes its toll. Dude just played two complete seasons down to the Finals PLUS Fiba. It’s no secret that dude has blue blood or some kind of mystic regenerative capabilities the way he fights injuries.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    fighting injuries and being healthy are to different things kadavour. And Mileage has everything to do with getting injured. Look at Kevin Garnett and every other NBA player who has passed the 10,000 minute barrier. They all get hurt on the regular, the difference with Kobe is he keeps playing. But that does not make him healthy

  • kev

    i dont eve know where to jump in this one lol. i dont ever remember having bigger arguments with people then i have had with bron vs kobe. lol gotta love it

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Has “Being humble” died?

  • Sarah

    I’m sure he probably could. Hell, I probably could if I had that body. Why are we supposed to care, though?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    False modesty is as despicable as unwarranted arrogance.

  • tomtom

    He really shows his immaturity sometimes, this is pretty weak. Kobe its the best scorer of the decade+ without doubt, its not even close. HOWEVER now, yeah it could be true, KD, Dirk and Wade would give him a good run tho. I just really dont see the point in that comment its very egotistical and sad.

  • ClydeSays

    Underlying message: “Free agency, coming up! Attention shoppers!”

  • http://nationofmillions.ca ciolkstar

    I just wonder if AllenP has noticed Bron beating b*tches down in the post recently?

  • http://nationofmillions.ca ciolkstar

    But total cosign @ 6:12

  • http://nationofmillions.ca ciolkstar

    Sorry, I meant Myles not Allenp @ 6:32.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Who cares Prince James, first lead your team to a ring, then boast. You hold the ball and pass when you want to, this style will not work again in the playoffs against the Magic, then you will be running out of the gym again like a little spoiled brat like you are and people will make a big deal out of it again. HOWARD owns you and you are Shaq’s sloppy thirds. Get the King a ring sounds like crap. Lead the league in scoring who cares, do it please come on Lebrick.

  • Shem

    Kevin Durant is a better scorer then LeBron James, I said it get at me.

  • Simmy Sosa

    It aint trickin if you got it…

  • karma

    i love LOVE how these Lebron fans fail to be objective. If Kobe had said this, they would jump on the dude. Your boy is a) not that good of a scorer and b) will bow down to KD as the years go on in terms of the scoring title.

    And please, the guy’s had like 2 50 point games his entire career….Kobe has 4 straight 60+ point games, 9 40+ games in a row, 81, 62 in three quarters, and a 35 ppg average playing a West heavy schedule.

    Dude, please. Get off this douche’s dick.

  • karma

    Eboy is the primary example of why I hate Lebron, and more specifically, his fans.

  • karma

    Eboy’s comment is a primary example of why I hate Lebron James and the people who worship his every move.

  • karma

    woops double post.

  • bill breedley

    again the lebron jockers are here to defend their arrogant queen. once kobe eventually retires, kevin durant will be taking his place as NBA champ. and lebron just like charles barkley will just be a soundbite that in essence wont amount to much. stat filler is all the boy is in a team where he touches the ball in essentially all the plays.

    as for scoring title being his every year if he wants it? well any superstar in his team could say the same thing and actually accomplish being the no 1 scorer of the L as he can control the teams play… unlike the queen, they are not as egotistic and ignorant to say something like that. the queen is a douche kids, do not make him your role model in life. this hick from ohio should’ve stayed in school to learn the ways of the world. does not mean you that just because you are a decent ball player you can say any stupid thing you want.

  • Sam

    bullsh*t

  • rabo

    Kevin Durant will beat LBJ this year…

  • kudos

    Lebron can’t score as much as he wants against the SPURS THATS for sure. -

  • kwame

    the most important thing is…lebron wearing kentucky warmup? i hate all these bandwagon kentucky fans…like omg so now lebron is a uk fan? wut happened to his beloved ohio state…omg this is so ridiculous

  • Rob

    @Shem I’ll get at you: You’re right

  • kulas

    This is why I’d love for KD to win the ’09-’10 scoring title

  • Teddy-The-Bear

    Fck all of you Lebron haters

  • Camel Joe

    KOBE COULD SCORE 81 EVERY NIGHT IF HE WISHES TO.
    Fortunately he matured already, Bron.

  • Kyle

    Durant, Kobe, Melo, Wade, and Dirk could all lead the league in scoring if they were allowed to travel, lower their shoulders and go to the basket forgetting to dribble, and then get bailed out and sent to the line every time.

    Just tonight against the Spurs, you saw the play where Queen James, twice took 3 or 4 steps on the same drive to the basket before running a guy over who was outside the restricted area with his feet set(but he got 2 freethrows!) James is a pretty lucky guy. Those puppets must have really cost Nike a lot of money and they need both Kobe and LeBron in the Finals.

  • T-Money

    And then journalists cry about athletes giving them the same ol’ tired cliches. People say they want honesty but they really don’t. Bron feels he could win the scoring title every year. So does Kobe (he has said so on many occasions). Deep down, Durant and Melo prolly feel the same way too. And, seriously, why would they feel otherwise?

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    I know I’m taking the convo on a tangent, but I gotta ask this: why do people feel Kevin Durant is going to be a more complete player than Lebron when, at KD’s age, Lebron was a better rebounder, passer, ball handler, tempo-controller, man-on-man defender, team defender, and leader? I don’t get this f’in logic.
    But yeah, back to the topic at hand, I don’t think this was needed. I get the whole “we want ball players to be honest” but we don’t want them to sound like d*cks. You don’t have to lie, just don’t bring it up.
    Honestly, I think if Wade gunned like he did last year, he would lead the league in scoring. He’s in the best position with the way his team is built (AKA no one else can f’in score)

  • Johnson

    man, there are a lot of comments about arrogance and how unnecessary that comment was but when you have that kind of skill level and the immense expectations and responsibilities he has you can’t help but understand this mentality. Lebron could easily have the scoring title every year for the forseable future, anyone who follows the nba could tell you that, if he had the playstyle of iverson lbj would probably hover at around 36-40 ppg 6-7 assists and like 8+ boards(second chance points). It has to be so much more difficult to lead an entire team of grown men with an odd makeshift roster to success night in night out trying to balance playmaking with scoring and learning to trust your teammates when you are more skilled/talented and are held almost personally responsible for the teams shortcommings in the media.

  • http://Wwe.twitter.com Darksaber

    “….,really. Check my stats”, Bron forgot to add.

  • Elias

    No he couldn’t. Kobe (averaged like 32 points before the finger) and KD (is gonna be) are better scorers.

  • Ronald

    I love how he says he can win the scoring title if he wants. Yeah, sure because his whole focus on winning a championship has produced AWESOME results.

  • Ben Flook

    If you watched Spurs V Lakers & Cavs this week it was plain to see that Kobe is still the best player in the game. Oh, and that the Lakers are gonna win the championship again this year. All in a game without their starting Center.

  • knock knock

    Lebron forgot to say he hasn’t been focusing on winning a championship just till this year, because you know, he would of had it already. -

  • franko

    LBJ 27 pts- MANU 30 pts on friday…

  • karma

    again, the Cavs make thier wins mostly off weak ass east team.s they faced the 5th or 6th best team in the West and got dominanted. “Score when I want”…please. All you do is charge through the lane like a ball, no skill involved.

  • Kara

    Ah, I hate how LeBron can say that so conveniently. But it’s true, nonetheless. The only thing that can match his talent is his ego.

  • ConeyIslander

    Fact.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Ben Floor: My favorite people are guys who make their judgements over one or two games, those are the best. Tell me something, with Lebron outplaying Kobe twice on head to head matchups, what does that say, hmmm?
    I’d say if Kobe wasn’t injured, he’d be right up there with Lebron. However, Kobe’s injuries and constant wear-and-tear make Kobe third. Lebron and Wade are one and two.
    Even James the Ballah admits this.
    So it’s insane that the jock riders around here don’t.

  • knock knock

    Lebron always wins during the regular season, that’s what everyone’s talking about. They won it all last year (reg season) and then flamed out. Just like Nash, Lebron fails to come up big when it matters most.

  • http://nutte.de erving

    he couldnt get the scoring title if kobe wanted the title too

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out to John Morton.

  • bill breedley

    arrogant cow would not score 20 points a night if the league called things honest. by honest, i mean the kind of calls a superstar typically gets. an occassional bailout call, a couple of steps here and there, swallow whistle on a few charges and swipes at the ball. DWade became the second coming of MJ a couple of years ago when the NBA decide to give him more than the typical superstar treatment for a couple of months. when Stern took away the special handling, he went back down to regular superstar. now, stern is looking at securing the league again with the likes of kobe, garnett and tim on the decline by making a “king”of basketball. lebron has talent, no question, but his fundamentals are flawed and the league compensates by treating him better than anyone else ever to play in the league. its just sad

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Knock Knock: Malone, Stockton, Miller, Barkley, Baylor, Maravich, Gervin,. Kidd, Iverson, Wilkins and King all want to speak with you

  • Marco

    Kobe is a far superior scorer.
    I think that he is the best nba player 1 on 1, but James is the best 5 on 5

  • The Philosopher

    The League has never seen a player quite like King James. Now, that being said, the League has changed since the golden years. Zone, defensive 3 seconds, etc. It is easier for a player to be dominant in today’s game. Plus, truly great defenders are hard to come by, as opposed to in the golden age of NBA basketball.

  • The Philosopher

    But as far a LeBron, he is truly an all time great. Kobe is truly an all timer also, but the fact of the matter is that LeBron James is a better player than Kobe Bryant. Even the greatest judge of talent in the history of the League said that LeBron is a better player than Kobe.

  • The Philosopher

    Think of this: After Jordan retired, especially after Jordan retired, the League in truth, had to remain relevant. The League needs at LEAST one golden goose. They’ve searched ardously. They’ve had a few who were close, but, very quite frankly, King James is the one.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    The Philosopher: Er, sorry to burst your bubble, zone defenses make it harder for guys like Lebron to score… Try other keywords like ‘ticky tack fouls’ and ‘no hand checking’ and you’ll be fine.

  • The Philosopher

    @Jukai: If a guy can shoot, than a zone is irrelevant. And with the hand checking rules, a guy can get a shot in a zone anytime he wants.

  • http://slamonline.com Krishan

    Check the 0.38sec of the video… THAT WAS AN OBVIOUS TRAVEL!

  • The Philosopher

    @Jukai: Since the zone was instituted, scoring has steadily increased, no? Now, if this is true, is it still harder for guys like LeBron to score in a zone?

  • The Philosopher

    @Jukai: The zone was instituted for guys like Shaquille O’Neal.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    The Philosopher: What are you trying to prove? Yes, if a guy can shoot, the zone is irrelevant, and yeah, with hand checking rules, a guy can get a shot in the zone anytime he wants.. that’s cause of the no hand checking rule! Not cause of the zone!
    What makes Lebron unstoppable… his ability to get a shot on anytime he wants… or his driving ability… you know, that ability that is limited during the zone?
    You suck at this.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    If Kobe Bryant said this now or if Allen Iverson said this 4 years ago this post would have 600 comments and 500 of them would be hate comments. There are like 5 or 6 or maybe even more players in the league that could win the scoring title IF THEY WANTED. Some no name form Dallas just scored 40 tonight.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    Carmelo,Durant,Kobe,Wade,Monta Ellis,Dirk Nowitzki could easily win the scoring title every year if they were given the green light to do so and we know they all want to.

  • Joey E.

    you guys hear aobut Monta? he said that LeBron is 3rd best, Kobe is 1st, and he is 2nd

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    I only read the title. not the posts. im sure there is a big debate going on… I believe what Bron says… I am not his biggest fan in fact if i could play god and pick champs. the cavs would be like 5th on my list.. Bron has been a great poster child for the NBA. I started collecting cards his rook season and remember when I would get his I would look at the million dollar smile. and slide it into a hard plastic sleeve.. shoot some of his h.s. games were nationaly telavised. he started his career being told he passes too much and wont take the big shot.. now he doesnt pass as much but still involves his teammates. I really feel he can score on anyone. and defend anyone.. great face of the nba. never any problems off the floor.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    he is still a slasher/ dunker… would really like to see an improved pull-up jumper. then there would be NO weakness in his game.

  • RyandC

    kobe this. lebron that. yall gotta get ur heads outta yer asses and recognize the scoring title is gonna be Z vs DJ!!! Bring out the new puppets!!!

  • Yesse

    Well he probably could, but so could Kobe Bryant if he would seriously want to. Maybe even Dwyane Wade or Kevin Durant.

  • Ben

    LeBron James doesn’t actually exist.

  • http://www.twitter.com Darksaber

    Pardeep, that “no name” was Roddy Beaubois aka “I’ma easily take Jason Terry’s job, coach”. 40 points and 8 rebounds, oh and only 1 Freethrow. How about them stats?

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/college/2009/12/decades-best-college-team/ K-MAn

    git

  • The Philosopher

    @Jukai: The zone doesn’t hinder LeBron’s ability to drive. Period. And, I don’t suck at this. And you know it.

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out to Chucky Brown.

  • bill breedley

    Minus the infamous “crab dribble” travel move, ticky tack you can’t touch the queen treatment and the obviuos let him
    get away with charge on his defender then this guy does not have much of an offensive game. He is streaky from the outside, has no post game and mid range game. Good thing god gave him court vision
    at least… and he is lucky to be David Stern’s “chosen one”.

  • ai come back

    hey uh bill if u gonna diss the crab dribble go ahead and diss magic….hes got moren court vision too 8.6 assists is 6th in the l and everyone sides wade in the top 20 list for assists this year is all pg.s……..u rite about one thing but apparently no one else seems to get how thats more of a compliment than not-his offense needs work but hes averaging 30ppg………using only slashing and a 35% 3pt shot…so if he develops a pull up jumper etc. doesnt ballhog for 62 in a quarter than yea hell lead the L

  • http://www.thecomfortofyourseat.blogspot.com twahc

    he can win other titles too, like ‘one man show of the year’, ‘thinks he is the best of the year’ and many more! XD

  • kd35

    durantula is better and so is melo, but the league will give this dude the chance to do it trust me nothing sucked worse than watching mj and the calfs get every call against my knickerbockers i may be the only one in the world to say this but if the knicks get lebrick then i am quiting the team for good

  • kd35

    id rather have melo and i ve felt this way from the jump and id definitely take durantula every time

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    The Philosopher: Do you know what a zone is? It’s when each player on defense is given a ‘zone’ to defend in. It makes for incredibly quick help defense, since the defender is always in his area. Therefore, when someone faster and stronger than you (Lebron) gets passed you, he is confronted by another person who can stop him.
    I’m not saying this is an effective strategy against Lebron— it is probably counter-effective, since Lebron’s passing will allow him to find constant gaps in the zone, and Lebron’s team is cake-filled with shooters. But the zone is pretty much DESIGNED to stop guys like Lebron from scoring– guys who have a speed and strength advantage over you but aren’t terribly good shooters.
    Really, just wikipedia it.

  • The Philosopher

    @Jukai: The zone is designed to stop guys like LeBron The King? What about Kobe? What about D. Wade, kevin Durant, Carmelo. All of those guys are different types of players. Anyone with even an average mid range game, the zone is ineffective. The reason they instituted the zone was for Shaq. Just like they widended the lane because of Wilt.

  • The Philosopher

    @Jukai: And, my original point was that in today’s game, it’s easier to become dominant. Well,”er”, sorry to burst your bubble, but, you’ve helped me in making my point.

  • bill breedley

    ai come back… sorry didnt get what you were referring to. i got to give it to lebron that he has good court vision and is a willing passer than most superstars. he is not a natural scorer though in the mold of KD, kobe or wade. its just not his makeup. he will probably average close to a triple double for a couple of years but he is nowhere near the scorer kobe was in his prime or where fledgling KD is now. as i said minus the bonuses david stern gives him, he is barely a 20 pts a night type

  • Shem

    @The Philosopher: How was the zone instiuted for guys like Shaq? Shaq will never be at the top of the key dribbling. Your right about widdening the lane because of Wilt but the zone was made for guys like LeBron who will blow by you, and when he gets to the rim there will be help waiting. Explain why a zone would be used on a guy like shaq who will back you down? Why not just double and not give up offensive rebounding opportunities (It’s hard to box out your guy when they might not be in the zone your defending)+ passing options for the 3 point line. (I’m assuming it’s a 2-3 zone because Jukai was talking about a zone on LeBron, a 3-2 zone would be relevant for Shaq and if that’s what your talking about then sorry)

  • bill breedley

    shem… got to agree with the philosopher here. 3-2 zone was what the L wanted in place to slow down the dominance of the diesel a couple of years ago. the institution of the zone allowed teams to bunch up on the side where shaq was preparing to make his move. aside from him getting fat, i think the zone changed the game a bit for the diesel.

  • chintao

    Sure. All he needs to do is work on his free throws.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    The game was instituted to stop guys like the Diesel but it STILL hurts driving oriented guys like Lebron from scoring. Guys like Melo, Kobe, and Durant are less effected— they are SHOOTERS. Guys like Lebron and Wade are less effected because they are PASSERS who can pass to shooters on the wings who are laxed upon because the zone doesn’t do tight defense.
    The Philosopher, I wasn’t trying to disprove the league was more offensively oriented. It’s much easier to score today. I’m saying you using the zone as an example is wrong. It’s like me saying that I can jump twice as high as I could five years ago and using the weights permanently attached to my leg as evidence to back my claim up.

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out to Mike Sanders.

  • The Philosopher

    @bill breedly: Excellent point about Shaq.

  • The Philosopher

    @Shem: I accept your apology, and appreciate it, but there’s no need to apologize. I’m just having fun with this. Trying to educate the masses the best I can. Class gesture, Shem.

  • The Philosopher

    @Jukai: The problem, I think, with your point is, your reasoning on why the zone doesn’t affect the players you mentioned as much. Because, the players you mentioned are at the top of the League in scoring.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    … okay, next time I’ll use guys like JJ Reddick and Jason Terry?
    Just admit you were wrong and we can be through with this.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    A 2-3 zone or a 3-2 zone is irrelevant. They still clog the paint with help defenders and make it difficult for a driving oriented player to score.

  • The Philosopher

    @Jukai: Reddick, you have to play him straight up. You can’t play a zone on him. He’s a brilliant shooter. And Terry…nevermind.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    Why is Jukai and The Philospher fighting over what a zone is?! A Zone is to stop players that can beat a team inside the 3 point line so guys that can drive their way to the hoop all night or post players like Shaq that would destroy teams. Its stupid to play Zone against Kobe,Melo,Durant because they will shoot the lights out if their open for even a second and the zone doesn’t work on LeBron either because he has Mo and Parker and a bunch of other guys to hit threes plus he can still get through it. Another good example of zone is a young AI when he was just driving by everyone they played zone and his jumper was like LeBron’s because it wasn’t great and that is one of the reasons he had a low fg% because once teams knew he could blow by anyone he had to shoot and the shot was good but not consistent.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Bang on, Pardeep.

  • Ronald

    Aren’t you guys simplfying the zone defense a bit too much? Different zones do different things, yes, the zone most people know is the 2-3 or the 2-1-2 which is supposed to hide weak defenders and unathletic players, but it is easily beat by good point guards who can shoot and high post players. But theres also 2-2-1 zone defnse, 1-4 zone defense (used very frequently in the NBA to force mid-range shots by forcing the shooter to put the ball on the floor and drive to the basket and dish it out ala Spurs v Lebron in the finals). But generally zone defense is used to defend shots closer to the basket. Teams with good and creative zones usually have good defense around the basket and defend the 3-point shot well like the Spurs (pre-2009) and the Celtics but give up the mid-range game

  • Lebran

    Some of the comments in this post are giving me nosebleed.

  • CSP8

    I think some of you, if not most, took the statement to left field (the wrong way).. He was saying that a scoring title is NOT his goal and IF he made that his only goal for the season and not winning games or a title then that is possible to do every year.

  • http://myspace.com/weezyleezy337 GametimeWeezy

    He’s talkin about plaayyyoffs man..! naa but really though he keeps it real professional n team leader at first. But everybody knows if he wanted to gun he could average 40. He’s not even thinkin BOUT THAT

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Wow, thanks about overcomplicating things guys. My point is that zone defenses don’t make it easier for Lebron to score. Anyone but Philosopher disagree? No?
    Good.

  • freddeez

    idk why there is so much hate on lebron…some of u sound like he hurt ur feelings with his comments…but anyway kd is no where near a better scorer than lbj lets be serious and neither is kobe. All u kobe sacksuckers have to give respect where its due..i love kobe but lets be real the man is the definition of a nut..great scorer but a nut…btw lebron hasn’t reached his full potential as a scorer or as a player

  • The Philosopher

    @Jukai: Study Ronald’s statement March 29, 3:19 am.

  • http://yahoo.com Chi-Town Stand up!

    Reading all of these comments is pure comedy for me. It’s funny how some of u r calling Lebron overrated and tryna disect every flaw in his game, Which there aren’t many 2 find other than his shooting. However; as a person who is from Chicago, and got the opportunity 2 watch the Greatest Player EVER Play I have 2 put into perspective what Lebron just said. This is y he nor any other player will ever be better than Jordan, because Jordan didn’t claim he could win scoring titles and say he was just gonna focus on rings! MJ was great enough that he won every scoring title(10 in a row which has never been done by anyone), but he also won 6 rings 2 go along with those scoring titles!…….Also just in case any of u might be stupid enough 2 put Lebron or kobe in a sentence where u mention them as the Greatest, just remember that Kobe has lost twice in the finals, and Lebron got swept in the finals! Jordan went 6-0 in the finals! The only current player currently in the league who should be mentioned in the same breath as MJ from this current era is Tim Duncan! 4-0 in the finals, along with 2 MVP trophies as well as 3 finals MVP trophies!

  • http://yahoo.com Chi-Town Stand up!

    BTW…Durant is not a better all around player than Lebron, but he definitely is a better scorer than Lebron! I trust KD on the line 2 knock down free throws more than I trust Lebron! P.S. Wade better than Lebron also! That ring and finals MVP tells me so! 37 and 9 is nothing 2 sneeze at in the finals!

  • Imani

    He said individual accolades are not important. Don’t misconstrue what the man was saying. Any above average player could go out there and jack up 25 plus shots. I can recall several games where Jordan went 13-29, but he hit mad free throws and had 40 points. Lebron is a different type of player the league has ever seen. He did his best to dodge the question, but @ the end every decent hooper believes he can do any defender on the planet. Don’t get it twisted Jordan talked more trash than Reggie Miller & Gary Payton put together they just turned the mics off so you wouldn’t think he was arrogant. Jordan played with like 5 hall of famers. You have Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Craig Hodges, Dennis Rodman,B.J. Armstrong, Steve Kerr, Ron Harper. Give Bron that level of shooters and defenders then please believe Kobe would be very nervous.

  • Jackie Moon

    Lebron was also quoted as saying “If I really wanted to … I mean, if I REALLY WANTED TO … I could walk on water.”

  • Mars

    I play basketball and I know for a fact through many coaches that the way to beat a zone is to penetrate not shoot. You guys are dumb. Lebron takes any zone and shredds it because he simply is strong enough. Don’t get mad at him for being a freak athlete, hit the weight room and stop him.

  • http://yahoo.com Chi-Town Stand up!

    Who’s better than Jordan? Nobody!!

  • mind focus

    you right but thats lebrons team now and much respect to wade he is a beast he is the best second best player on a team in the nba true is lebron is the only player in the nba that can play any position on a court and play as a role player u never seen that before if he gets his freethrows up he be a monster on the court hes already a beats and a superstar

  • mind focus

    so your just judging a player by his chips remeber its not one player that wins the rings is the teammmmm!!!!! wilt chamberlain is better than tim duncan and just because tim duncan has 4 titles doesn make him the second best player in the history game are you out mind fulio tim duncan is future hall famer as is going down as one the best power fowards int he history of the nba but to put him in the catergories of the greatest nahhhh u mistaken and lebron will be number or if not the best by the time he retires and hes only 28 he got like 10 to 12 more years in him thats amazing he and what ever team he plays with down the long run will probably win like 6 more titles

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